Adnan Rashid – Hadith Rejection #1 – Who? Why? Where? When?
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celerra Rahim al hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah mopod rubellite Samira Lee ministry Tanga. rajim Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem
Dena Armando facil mecca for Allah to Toby rocoto wa t shirt on in the hula Kumara Duma bienville Carla Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, on a condition that he was not alfalfa or Rashi gene Almudena somebody, I'll come upon Allah salatu salam, respect to brothers and sisters.
It is a privilege for me to serve the deen of Allah subhanaw taala to the best of my ability. And I have been invited to address a very important topic today
that the topic is
Heidi's rejection
why,
where and who?
Or why, where, when, and who. So, it is a modern phenomenon
in its current form,
but it has existed, the precedent was established long ago.
Let me explain first what this objection is. Am I speaking in English although usually this class is reduced English
is in English. So everyone who's attending right now understands English, English is better because it goes out goes out to a wider audience inshallah Tada. So I'll stick to English for now, if I need to explain something, and I'll do, I'll try my best to do so. So before I continue with the topic, I would like to apologize for the delay, my father had given me a task.
So I was busy fulfilling that task. And I was perfectly aware of this responsibility as well that I had to come and deliver this lecture. But my father's task takes precedence over anything else in my life. This is the way I see it. The rights of parents, you know, they take precedence over anything else in life. So this is why I was delayed because I had no other choice, unfortunately, but I'm here now.
So,
the topic is very important one because this phenomenon called inquiry Hudis.
Or in Carl Hades, in the Arabic language or had this rejection or rejecting her this has emerged in the Muslim world, generally, and specifically in Pakistan, more so than anywhere else. Because this is where it was. It was born in the recent times.
In garden, Hades or rejecting Hades, whatever form it may come in,
was
started by primarily the first
sectarian group in Islam. Who knows what the first sectarian group in Islam is,
in the history of Islam, the first sectarian
digression, or a group that separated itself from the Muslim main body?
You said she are
okay, cottage is
anyone else?
Okay, anyone else?
Okay. Yes, the sisters are correct. The coverage or the first sectarian group in the history of Islam. And this is what the allama has stated. People like Imam Shara study in his book called middle one and how
he has documented the history of the coverage and how they came about. And the topic today is not to discuss the Hawaii but to highlight this point that they were the first ones to break away from the main body of Muslims. So first, there was Islam.
What we call the normative Islam, or Islam as it was delivered by the prophet sallallahu sallam, to his companions,
and then came,
digression
going away from that path. People who broke away from the main body of Muslims, who were the main body of Muslims at the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, the Prophet and his companions. They were the people who took knowledge directly from the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. And this is the core of Islam. This is where you need to understand how to follow pure Islam. If you want to follow pure Islam, the core of pure Islam is the Prophet
And the people who learn directly from him, you go to anyone else for Islam, or to learn your Islam to understand you Islam, you will go astray, you will
fall in error guaranteed.
And anyone who studies the history of Islam,
which I happen to have done to the best of my ability, I'm a student of history. I've come to realize that any one who breaks away from the way of the companions of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, and ended up in Babylon, in misguidance, because that was the main body of the Muslims. In the early days of Islam, they are the ones who received the Koran, understood it directly from the Prophet sallallahu sallam, and delivered delivered it in a perfectly pure form to their followers. Anyone who breaks away from them,
or finds a fault in them, or tries to make make excuses to put them in bad light has simply gone astray.
And it is a challenge. You may find individuals here when they're going astray even among the companions of the process. But the main body of the companions, who numbered over 100,000,
over 100,000 people, men and women, they stuck together to preserve the Quran and the prophetic tradition, the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu sallam.
And in history,
anyone who sticks to the followers of prophets prospered, they never went astray. And anyone who broke away from them, simply,
you know, found themselves in error. Very quick example. I had a recent debate in the US
nearly 10 days ago, or almost two weeks ago, I was in America in the in the USA, Atlanta, I had a debate with the Christian scholar there, on the issue of salvation by the cross, do we need the cross for salvation as the Christians claim? The Christian belief is that Jesus Christ easily Salaam was crucified, he died on the cross, to liberate humanity to He died for our sins, and he lifted the curse of the law.
Now was this idea, this doctrine, or this aqeedah? Was it preached by Isa Salam did Isa preach this? Now, when you open the Bible, even in its current form, which is altered, it is an
even the New Testament. Forget about the Old Testament, that's a completely different story. Even the New Testament, the Gospels and the writings of other authors.
Even in the current form, when we read the words of Esau, his alarm or the words attributed to him, or the hadith of Isa salam, if you want to put it that way,
there is nothing in the words of esala salam, where he might have said that I was sent to be crucified on the cross, so that I can expiate for your sins, or I can ransom I can present myself as a ransom for your sins.
Or I can be a redemption for you.
Oh, I will be a source of your salvation by dying on the cross.
The question is, who preached that idea? Is the question who preached that idea? If he saw a salon didn't do that, if he didn't come up with this idea, redemption by the cross, or salvation by the cross, just believe in the cross, and you will have salvation.
You will have salvation.
You don't have to do any good, good works.
Who taught that idea? Anyone?
Anyone.
If he saw Islam didn't teach that idea. Where did the Christians get it from?
Paul,
they call him St. Paul. Right, Paul? Another man who never met easily Salam?
Yes. All we're all of them were all.
Yes, yes, the details are far too much for us to go into. Again, we're going to turn this lecture into a history lecture on the history of Paul. But Paul was the man who came up with this idea
Paul, who never met a Salah Salaam never met Jesus.
And then after he saw a Salaam disappeared, he was lifted up, as we are told in the Quran. And even in the in the Old Testament, there's a prophecy about the Messiah, the mercy her or the mercy being saved. In the book of Psalms, Chapter 91. The entire chapter is talking about the Messiah being saved, he will not be hurt, he will not be killed, he will simply the angels will lift him Allahu Akbar is in the Old Testament is a prophecy. The Quran confirms that in the middle, we have this religion called Christianity. And this religion is not based upon the teachings of a Salah Salaam, rather it is based upon the doctrines Paul preached to the followers of a Salah Salaam later on,
Paul came up with this idea that he said Islam died for our sins. And we don't have to follow the Jewish law anymore. We are free from the law, the Jews, they life was the law, the Mosaic Law following the Torah.
And this idea to them was important. How can someone come along
and say that
we don't have to follow the law and easily Islam is thought to have taught in the Gospel of Matthew, that law must be followed, a man came to him asking him that
how do I get eternal life? How do I get success for law? You know, cause of lateral movement on the Koran tells us the successful are the believers. similar question was put to a solace alarm, how do we succeed? How do we get eternal life six success in the hereafter easily Sallam said follow the commandments? In other words, follow the law of musala salam, right.
And the list goes on and on. And then there are more details. He said, I also do that already do that. Then Islam said okay, sell your property, and dedicate your life to align His messenger that is on Islam. And he said, that's very difficult for me to do and he turns he walks away. So he said Islam taught the importance of law. Paul comes along and he goes, he said, Islam has died on the cross. And that sacrifice was for you to be freed from the law. So you don't have to follow the law anymore. Just believe in the use of sacrifice. Just believe that a sir Islam died for your sins on the cross, you will have salvation.
Now, the companions of eSATA Salam had a problem with Paul. Because of this.
And even in the Bible, in the New Testament, in the book of Acts, we are given incidents where the direct companions as high as harbor Rasool Yani the companions, or Isa Salaam is hawara. Yun is his supporters. Those who spend time with him, learned from him.
And what teaching his message to the Jewish people in Jerusalem. One of them was James James, who became the leader of the, the the followers, followers of Isa Salaam in Jerusalem. When he saw a Salam disappeared, he left behind companions, right or wrong. Yes, his companions didn't go away. They stayed there. So they were teaching the Jewish people in Jerusalem. And they continued to go to the Kaaba, what was the Kaaba,
merciful acts of the Temple of Solomon, right, the Temple of Solomon, which was destroyed in 70 ce II by Titus, the Roman general.
But at this time, he saw Islam disappeared, his companions continued worship. So they had a problem with Paul. So they lectured Paul, and they went against Paul. And they rebuked for Paul for allegedly preaching against the law. And then when Paul came in front of them, James told Paul to go and worship in the temple and sacrifice in the temple, so that people can see that they are lying about you that you are preaching against the law, but Paul was, in fact preaching against the law. But Paul, like a hypocrite, went to the temple and sacrificed and did the rituals. So he deceives people against what he actually believed
to either save his life or for some other end. Right? So the point is, most Christians today,
if not all, actually follow Paul at the expense of following easily Salam? Why, because the left the way of the Sahaba of Eastern Islam and the followed another man who came after Eastern Islam, and he said, I have the true message of Islam. I have a revelation now. And I had this vision of Israel, Islam on the road to Damascus, and he told me all these things and now things have changed. Everything he said Islam taught is gone. So hon Allah false prophet,
False Prophet, just like midazolam Ahmed qadiani came, and he said, I have this revelation. And he was asked, What is the angel call and he said, TG
if Angel was called tg, right, he was asked, What's the name will be?
Right? So, even from the stories, you know, this is Jim, this is strange, right? So, he came up with these theories that I'm also a prophet. Okay, I didn't bring a new Sharia Obama prophet. And then people started to follow Him, because they left the way of the Sahaba. What did the Sahaba do to false prophets?
They fought them. Why? Why did the Sahaba if there was room for another prophet after Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam the Sahaba would have said Okay, hold on a second. Yeah, of course there is room in Islam for other prophets, like the Guardian is argue. They argue right there is room for a profit. That's why Missoula bulama qadiani his prophethood is valid. If that was the case, why did the Sahaba go out and go through so much trouble in suppressing the movement, almost a llama Alka dab? As for the unseen and whoever other people came along and claimed to be false prophets of Tara Taka view al Qaeda? Why is he called moqtada Taka v Al Khattab? Why? Because a liar.
So this haba their way is very important. Anyone who broke away from the way from the tradition simply when a stray and this will happen to the average the first group in Islam or broke away from the will of the Sahaba and they started to condemn the Sahaba they made takfeer of Maja they made the creed of alumina with our labor they said these people are misguided and we are guided and they had excessive taqwa.
They took what was excessive
to an extent way Abdullah bin abasolo Juan, he went to their
the camp and you know when you go close to a beehive What do you hear?
buzzing you know the buzzing sound
buzzing sound like when your mobile phone vibrates. Hmm. That sound when you go close to the beehive.
Abdullah bin Abbas he said when I went to the camp of the hawala I heard this buzzing sound and What was that sound them reading the Quran, them reading the Quran, but they're understanding the Quran was so
accurate in their eyes that they started to tell algebra we call it the man who was promised Jana, by the Messenger of Allah Islam that your understanding of the Quran is wrong.
Ali would deliver hot bars on the member in Kufa and the coverage would stand up and they would say your understanding is wrong.
You have misunderstood the Quran, Allahu Akbar. And these people never met the Prophet most of them would not have not once a hobby was found among them.
So we have youngsters like that today, martial law, they come to Islam to three months read one or two pamphlets of books here. And they start to implement Sharia on every single person who comes along. Yeah, they start to look down upon the family, the aunties, the uncles all
right?
To do ma malga Islam, we, you know, this attitude was there. So coverage came up with these theories. And they started to come up with new theology, new ways of interpreting the Sunnah of the Prophet also. So they were the first ones to reject the Hadith of the Prophet says, from the Sunnah of the products that sort of, or to cast doubt on because they came up with these ideas.
Like there's a decent body
that a woman came with, to eyeshadow de la Juana.
And she came up with this idea about fasting and kafala or fasting. And she came up with this erroneous idea that do we not have to make up for our, you know, for example, during menstrual cycles, you know, making up for faster, and I showed you a little on how she asked her a huria Auntie
harary anti, are you one of the coverage there were no known as huria
Harada was a place in Iraq where the coverage came from. So they had already emerged with the new theology and they broke away from the way of the Sahaba they thought they know better, right? Then came the martyrs era. This is the early history of the rejection of Hades where this idea came from Mattila
hasn't been read the term Mattila comes from a statement hasn't bacilli who was one of the greatest Tabby rain made in this regard or, you know, novel moment a novel cafe. They are hanging in the middle.
They stand somewhere in the middle, their status is undecisive
Hassan basri when he heard this, he said a puzzle, they have gone away, they have left the main body. Because this belief cannot be substantiated in the in the light of the some of the progress of asylum, that there are people hanging in the middle as well, right? This is a Catholic concept, the limbo, the concept of limbo, right? So we don't believe in that we believe people who commit major sins are believers, but they are sinners. And if they repent, Allah will accept the repentance and if they don't repent, they will pay for it in jahannam, and then they will be eventually taken out, they will not remain in hellfire. How do we know this? From the Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu
Sallam from the Sunnah. So upazilla were a people who use their rationality over the Sunnah of the prophet of Islam. Where did this where did this movement come from? When Greek works were translated into the Arabic language in the ninth century CE, O, the second century Hijri.
Some of the Greek works written by Greek philosophers such as Aristotle, Plato, and other thinkers, they were translated into the Arabic language. And then Aristotelian logic, which is based upon skepticism that you Everything is guilty, until until proven otherwise, everything is guilty, you have to question everything, right? So and these people came to be known as rationalists. So they use the rationality to judge every single ayah of the Quran or the Hadith of the Quran. And that's why a lot of them went astray. A lot of it, a lot of them went astray. So what does this experience teach us? That rationality is limited?
It is very limited.
Your uncle, what we call uncle
is not over knuckle knuckle is the text of the Quran and the Sunnah, right? Uncle is under the knuckle because knuckle is the revelation of Allah subhanaw taala. A lot of us are on right? So Allah knows best He is the Creator of the heavens in the universe. He tells us in the Quran, that he is the one who created but the awesome article on why is our father Imran
Khan, for yakun. Okay, this is Allah subhanaw taala he's the one who created the universe, the heavens and the earth. So he is supremely wise, supremely wise, he is ultimate ultimately wise. Right? We all of us put together all the humans on the planet and other species beyond if they do exist, cannot possibly outdo Allah as wisdom Can we?
If you can then produce your evidence. Allah has created the heavens and the earth. What have you done?
Allah tells you the Quran or mankind engine you get together. You cannot produce a fly. Yes.
obligate McKibben even asked a
jasmine Athena,
you can create flying jets. Right. But self sustaining Maki your fuel Gabrielle da ha
makhija a fly. Right? It has its own system. You cannot you cannot create a fly.
And then Allah says if it takes away something from you. I will be mosquitoes which lady die to most of obviously Lhasa
when when a fly comes and sits on your food, I was called out to it's taken something from the food right? You cannot bring it back.
Monkeys are going to come with it.
challenger makiko Martha you can you can plan you cannot bring the bring back that food but if it takes so Allah subhanaw taala is teaching you lessons get don't get on a bus. Oh, how little you are.
You have to Malibu challenge crypto you stand in front of Allah. Allah subhanaw taala laniakea laniakea Why me? Why this Why that? Who are you?
What's, what's your status in comparison to Allah subhanaw taala and what he has created
from the day you are born till the day you are you die, you rely on Allah's mercy. If Allah took away mercy from your mother's heart, you wouldn't even survive. Imagine if your mother didn't clean you for five days. When you were a baby, when you were in your nappies when you were urinating and you were you're dedicating and leaving that mess. Imagine you know have you seen animals lower animals. When animals give birth, the baby gets up and starts walking a goat. Have you seen God little goat? a goat sprayed for the milk a goat
Straight from the milk as if it has pre pre programmed knowledge that that's where you need to go. You want to survive. As soon as you come out, you go for milk, human babies, he leaves them on the bed, you put the mother next to them, they don't know what to do.
They don't know what to do, they don't know where to go, they will die. If the mother doesn't lift Allah subhanaw taala if Allah didn't put that mercy in your mother's heart.
So, the point is that rationality, human rationality, human, human, human, intellect, human knowledge, human life, human ability is all limited. It's all limited by your conditioning, your circumstances.
And your environment. Do you agree?
People who have lived in Pakistan all the life you don't think like Korea, do you? Do you think like gory?
And if you bring glory here to live where they don't think like you, because they have different circumstances, different conditioning, different ability to understand different things in different ways. Yes.
So, this is why
human rationality is conditioned,
it is influenced.
So it cannot be used as an objective anchor to govern your lives. Because when human rationality is conditioned, it will do things in a very subjective way. For example, all humans know alcohol is bad. is bad. Yes, it is bad. How do we know it's bad?
Not not because you get drunk and you fall around? No, no, no. What it does to this is it. Most violence in the West is directly linked to alcohol consumption. Luxury became a commodity internet crimes, we can build a Barbie dounia a poo
pourri of them Othello, calm Caracas. avanos apotheke. They're busy. Gonzaga weekend kabara th ra et and they kill each other. Right? So this is how life is there. And everyone knows alcohol is bad. But why is it not banned? If it's bad, because everyone is conditioned to think it's okay. It's a necessity of life. It goes.
And the people who are making laws
are never going to ban alcohol, even though they know is bad. Why? Because human life or sorry, human intellect is conditioned by circumstances.
And circumstances of what in the West? Everyone is drinking. So drinking is part of the culture. How can we? How can we actually ban it? Even though it's so evil it's so bad.
So human intellect is actually conditioned. So we cannot use human intellect which is limited? Yes, no doubt Allah has given us enough intellect to know the right and the wrong. Yes, Allah has given us enough intellect to understand Islam and Allah commandments. But Allah has not given us enough intellect to outdo or veto or last commandments.
Because laws wisdom is ultimate. Allah tells you do not touch intoxicants, do not touch intoxicants, whether it is wine, whether it is terrorists, cocaine, heroin, whatever it is, it destroys you.
Haram is one thing but then Allah goes further fudge Tawny boo, do not go close to it.
Yeah, you have Latina armano in namale hamro wall maizuru while on saboo while as llamo register minimalist a pond fujitani boo,
boo La La come to fly home. La chotto if you want success, do not go close to these things. Touching is don't go close.
So this is a lot of wisdom. A lot of wisdom is telling us don't do these things and human intellectual generosity which will never go and then what see what happened in societies.
So this is why we cannot use human intellectual rationality to outdo Allah's commandments or the son of the progress of Salah easilly aka knuckle kitabi not the other way around. Your knuckle is not you know based upon a cold yes to understand knuckle you need no doubt right but you need a girl is an Achilles Salim
occur which is in submission to Allah subhanaw taala you know your limits. And despite knowing your limits you use your intellect with which has been given to Allah subhanaw taala
to you in a limited amount so that you can have enough ankle to understand what he has sent down and act upon it. And that's why you will be judged based upon your aka how you used it. So rational is the Mattila was the first people who came up with these ideas that they started to reject the some of the progress of the salon and started to come up with new ideas, you know, money that you know, self
self serving interpretations of the Quran so Matera they came up with these ideas, and they started to come up with ideas like Quran is created Koran is created.
Koran, Jo MK Luca.
And then some all of our tortured some of these Mattila the rationalists. In the early history of Islam, they influenced frolova some of the fog of blue bars, they became a tequila
starting from mamoun
then you can listen to it afterwards. And
then first moto cymbala, sorry, maamoun, then moto Sim, then
was sick. And then Almodovar kale who repented. Three cauliflower, or bonobos were influenced by our mortality scholar called a madman
who had convinced this qualifier that the Quran is created. And this is a doctrine you have to pump out and you have to force the Alomar to accept this doctrine. Otherwise the Ummah will be destroyed in the view, right? So Allah were tortured. Some of them tortured to death.
A mama had been humbled was tortured.
Mr Romani for died before that, the fitna. mamajuana for amatola died in 150 Hijri. And this was before the fitna erupted to scale when Mr. Mohammed humble was tortured. So this is what happened. Mr. Mohammed was forced, in fact, martyrs in Bella, he asked Mr. Muhammad to be brought out of prison because he was imprisoned. And then in front of the Khalifa, he was beaten. Mr. Muhammad, he was a very thin man, a very, very weak man physically, but spiritually he outweighed the basket Empire. You know, the Romans martyrs in Bilbao, you know Martin Villa, go and study his history. Romans were paying him tax
anyone who boschi three but Marcia de
guerre, Rome, Jesse Barry pocket was paying them tax to keep them
you know, your tram article, Texas, they're there.
But available Congo, right? homage chakra kazama karuma, Jacqueline, ambigious, yada, yada. We do jizya like other people back in the day, Muslims used to receive GVR. Now we are paying via our Pakistani, but every child who is born in Pakistan, is in debt.
Right. So the point is, Romans are so powerful that and Barabbas think about bonobos who are receiving taxes from Romans, and what isn't Billa was the most powerful man in the world. Without a doubt.
He was the most powerful man the richest and the most powerful man in the world. mata cymbala, the Khalifa boss and Mr. Mohammed was brought in front of him. He said why don't you accept the doctrine of Calico Quran?
He said what your Amir mean Give me something from the Quran or the Sunnah of the prophet and I will accept it. If you do not have something clear from the Quran or the Sunnah. I cannot accept it. Then he was lashed. He was beaten. In fact, people were executed in front of him to terrorize him.
And there's an incident I will have somebody that we refer to lolly in his book Tarik doubt or z but he he narrates an incident that Mr. Mohammed wants to men were executed in front of him to terrorize him. And he turns to the man sitting next to him and asked him what was the opinion of Mr. McAfee about wiping over socks
can you think they think about it? Yeah.
Someone is has been executed in front of a you've been you've been told that you will be next. You'll be next.
What was the opinion your mom Shafi on socks?
Is so that's caller emiliana without was watching the manual influence disqualifier. So, look at this man. He has no fear in him. He has no fear in him because they believe in the Quran.
in Malawi, Nepal or a boon Allah takamoto Tatianna Zulu la Mala Mala Allahu wa sallahu wa vissuto Belgian Attila t contento dawn. This is what they believed in that those who say allies, my Rob and then they are firm on that
Then angels come upon them and tell them Do not fear. Do not grieve because Allah has promised you agenda and they will give it to you. So, the rationalists came up and they caused a lot of fitna and Pete and Allah, people like him are much more humble and mohabbatein. They stood against them, intellectually challenged them intellectually to prove their case from the sun of the forest or Sonam, or leave it, and then they were defeated. After the Mattila, the fitten off in Cairo, Hades did not emerge in the Muslim civilization throughout the history of Muslim civilization. It was suppressed throughout the sacrifices of the allama in the second century history. And the hard work
against the Mattila, their writings, the books, the arguments, the debates, the you know, speeches and the teaching sessions did the job.
The people of the tradition became well established.
And this is a side point, I would like to mention very quickly, that the scholars of Islam, the traditional, the traditional is, the tradition is because they were the people of tradition, we call them traditionalist in the English language. But in the Arabic language, they were called Mahatma seen. The scholars of Hades, the scholars of tradition, they were not against progress, progress. They were not against science. They were not against Muslims becoming strong and powerful. But there was militarily or technologically or financially or in any other way, they were against blind skepticism of Aristotle. They were against Aristotelian logic that eventually leads to copper if it
is not controlled.
So they were not against science or Greek science, or Indian science for that matter. They were against specifically Aristotelian logic, which was based upon extreme skepticism which leads to belief disbelief, sorry.
So after the suppression of the spin off and Carl Hades in the second century,
what comes now, in the 19th century, the fitna arises again in the Indian subcontinent, out of all places, the Indian subcontinent, but it's this comparison here cattle or sheep alcarol, India in the Arabic language. This is where the fitna arose again, and the scholars have pointed out a number of individuals who started the fitna. Number one, the name that comes to mind or the top of the list is Ahmed Khan, who was very prominent in
initiating the independence movement. Also, he was the first person to come up with the idea that we need a separate homeland for the Muslims in India, because he could see that Muslims are very inferior in administrative skills, Muslims because they didn't want to the Muslims basically bore the brunt of the wrath of the British Empire. After the 1857 War of Independence, or tolerance of Stalin, the jungle Azadi jamui Tosca psara, malba psara, exam muscle mana Bergara, holla K, what jungle you have Hindu an issue key. Hindus started the rebellion in a place called Meerut,
a Hindu contingent of soldiers. They started the conflict with the British soldiers and they killed few British soldiers.
And the person who started the movement or this rebellion was called Mangal Pandey.
He started the movement and he was a Hindu Brahmin. He was very disturbed by the cartridges which were introduced into the British Army by the British officers. Those cartridges were made out of cow fat or pig fat. Pig fat is a barn for the Muslims and cow fat is a barn for the Hindus. So Hindus and Muslims are both disturbed by this new invention of this new introduction into the into the military arsenal of
the British Empire. And some of the soldiers they rebelled and the rebellion grew in an intensity and then before it could be controlled it reached many other places in the Indian subcontinent including Delhi. The Lost Mughal Emperor in Delhi Bahadur Shah was besieged by these rebellious soldiers trained by the British Empire. They were native soldiers, but they were trained by the British. Right? So they had these military skills, which even the British feared because they are the ones who trained them, right. So they went and they besieged the
the
Palace of the king and the king was forced to support them for he had to put his name in rebellion. And then a lot of other lot of other Muslims got involved as well as they called it, you know jihad, FISA vilella, although I believe it was not. It was facade feasibility law stuff, federal law, it was facade. It was it was because it was completely out of control. There were no leaders. And this is why some of the scholars of the time they opposed it people like say, Xerox and Delaware amatola Lee, who was in Delhi was one of the greatest scholars living at that time, he discouraged the Muslims from taking part in this rebellion, because it is not jihad. Jihad doesn't mean killing
innocent men, women and children. It doesn't mean that some of these rebels, they actually lined British prisoners they had caught.
They had caught these British personnel within Dalian in the outskirts of Delhi. Among them were women and children and men, they lined them up. And in front of the king of daily barges after they shot them dead. The King tried to dissuade them into the tree, the king tried to to stop the murder, the massacre, but they didn't listen to him. So they were shot dead. And a lot of the Muslim scholars were highly disturbed by this development. And they said this is not us. We don't represent this. So that's why some of the scholars actually went against other scholars, they said no, this is Muslims should lead it and they should turn it into a job movement. If it's not one.
It was an unfortunate event, it was a catastrophe on a grand scale Muslims suffered daily as a result, Muslims are directly accused by the British Empire and people who were running the administration deliberately
deprived Muslims of important posts,
important educational opportunities, and even giving them any place in any important you know, field in the society. So the Hindus took full advantage of that situation. So they were able to take all the important pause. So Sufism of Khan and people like him, the intellectuals, were looking at this situation within the if the British left today, the Muslims will be completely destroyed, because of the inability to run a state under Hindus, if Hindus if the British left a democracy, and what is democracy?
majority arianism.
Right, the majority 51% imposes its rule on 49% minority. Yeah, it might differ again again much para Xia fosh. Kihara Chandana is a colada hicker pay jumhooree at otaku Mata.
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This is like Paul said about democracy. He knew if the British left today, and they left democracy behind, we'll be completely outnumbered. And we will lose all the power we currently have. That's why I say that makhan came up with this idea of a new homeland. But he was unfortunately, very impressed by the British Empire and his technological advancement. And its military strength and its material strength and its economic strength. And society. Mr. Khan was taken to Britain on a trip where he was given titles and a lot of respect and a lot of honor, because he was one of those people who
argued for the British to to remain the rulers of India. He was in favor of the British rule.
Not that he wanted it as an ideal situation. Of course, we know so say so say the economist and say man, I don't blame him for
what he did in terms of establishing the Aligarh college, which he established to educate the Muslims enough so that they can come up and take some important fields in in the system. This is what he wanted to do. He was a very sincere man with Muslims. As far as the Muslims are concerned. He was very sincere, but he made major mistakes. When it comes to theology. He was too impressed by
the British literature. And unfortunately, he was one of those people because of his influence, or him being influenced by British literature at the time, he kind of started to reject certain established principles of Islam. For example, He rejected the reality of mergesort. Right medical, so Theodor Macron, rejected miracles. The miracles don't exist. So for him or to him, every miracle in the Quran had to be explained naturalistically. So he became
And naturally,
in Hulu, we call it an h3 or in English he was a naturalist. So he started to explain every miracle like for example, masala Islam and he split the sea. It was either
right or you know other things he started there is a very powerful book. I all I really strongly recommend this and will do. It's called i&i pervasion okay by Dr. Mann kailani matale einai purveys yet it goes through all these things and talks about where this this rejection actually started. Okay it's a very extensive history of this rejection and some of the best books on in godel Heidi's
reputations on encourage Heidi's responses from the allama on in Carol Heidi's or rejection of her these are written in the audio language Believe it or not, because the fitna arose here in the old language, the fitna arose in the auto language, so it had to be handled in the new language, you will hardly find anything good anything extensive in the Arabic language or the Persian language on ngaro Hadees.
So the best works on in Cairo, Hades.
It's reputation are to be found in the audio language. And inshallah, in due course, I can mention some very quickly. So Sarah McCann was the first one to come up with this idea that we have to now he started to justify the theory of evolution. Right. So he became a naturalist.
But the first one to openly come out and say that we reject Hades. We don't accept Hades, at all, at all, was a man called Abdullah Chalabi. Right? There is a man called Abdullah Malawi, who came up with this idea and there's a hadith or so la Salaam that there will come a time when people will be leaning on cushions. Yeah.
They will be leaning on cushions. And they will be saying I do not accept the Sunnah of Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, the Quran is enough for us. The surah losses are foretold and some of the scholars in India in the subcontinent at the time and Abdullah chuckle Allah we literally would give lectures leaning on a cushion. And he would be saying to people, I don't accept these Quran is enough for us.
And some of them are pointed out that this is the fulfillment of the honey Sora Sora Lazarus alum, his prophecy, there will be people leading on cushions and they will be saying I don't accept these I don't believe in it. The Quran alone is enough for us, which is absurd, which is absurd parts of Quran cannot be comprehended without Sunnah the son of the professor sort of explaining those parts.
I had a very long, interesting discussion in London speaker's corner, Hyde Park with a hadith projector.
And it was like over an hour of discussion with him. And I asked him three simple questions. How do you do this? How do you do that? How do you pray? How do you make also Why do you make so I asked him?
Do you have a wife? Yes, I do. Why when you have intimacy with her, do you do you make muscle after that? And
he said I do wonder why the Quran doesn't clarify that Quran in one verses four to zero. In the other words, in the other verse the Quran says for baharu
when Quran talks about guzzle, it says for Tasuku Porou
for Tata domains wash.
I asked him what what if we if we put these aside which explains what it means, wash means have a have a wash have a bath, right for major impurity?
Right. So explain to me what does actually mean in the Quran? Wash What? Wash your face, wash your arms, wash your privates, wash, what?
power means purify, purify, what.
So if we don't have the Sunnah, we cannot explain, you know, explain some of these terms in the Quran. We are completely left without guidance.
That's why that's one of the professor's explains the Quran the Quran is the word of Allah, the Sunnah. The Hadees is revelation
explaining the Quran explaining the Quran.
So, Abdullah cioccolato he was the first person who came out and he
openly rejected Hadees. Then came another man called Aslam, jayaraj Puri, who also rejected at least influenced by chakra Louie. And then came another man called Willem Pervaiz. And then people he went to the next he went to a next level of rejection, rejecting these he started to interpret the Quran from his own mind and we have some
people doing that today. There is some person called Khalid. What's his name?
There's one in Karachi. Mama check. Sorry, not sure Khalid Mohammed checks up. Mama cesab is very eloquent on dubrio chia.
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we have other examples in the past allama, who had memorized pre Islamic poetry who had memorized big, big chunky volumes of Hadees. And they had overturned every single word of these, and I'll come to address them point very quickly. So these are some people these individuals who have come to reject Hadees Okay, it started from societa Muskaan. Then it went into this man called De La, La La V and then a slum jayaraj Puri and then purveys Balaam purveys came, and he rejected Hades in totality. And people who followed him were called purveys ease, because it was Africa and the record pervasive and then came later on people who did not reject halys openly and in thought in totality.
They realized that if you had these, if you reject these in totality, you separate yourself from the main body of the oma Muslims become very, very vigilant about you. upgradable Naga magisk Amanda Bukhari Muslim Tara Marie even Marja Sana Abu Dhabi subdued it's all a lie. If someone comes along and says all of these six books you have collected or your scholars have there are they are a bunch of lies.
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you know,
he will become very surprised you'll think so panela this is very abnormal, what this person is saying it's person who says the new so now what we have is a new fitna today, people who reject Hades in a subtle way. They do it subtly. But a jerk
smoothly yo this the reject Hades in a way that you don't realize they actually rejecting Harry's and who are people like that people like Java dama Gandhi's up, who is actually had this rejecter but he comes across as if he accepts these, but he has a different understanding of it. No, he rejects her these are these rejection comes in different forms and shapes. One form is complete rejection outrightly harmonious command tanea we don't accept these. That's one type. The other type is we accept some and others we do not accept because they're the ones that fit into our mind or the one the ones that agree with our conception of normality. We accepted the ones that do not fit into
our intellectual framework. There is a problem with them. For example,
The age of eyeshadow viola, one ha, I shadowed Yolanda. She was married to the professor solem at a very young age at nine. And it doesn't actually fit into their minds. They don't accept their minds don't accept it, because they have been conditioned by the modern age. Right? What's happening in the societies today? They have been conditioned by that today. If you heard someone got married to a nine year old, you'd be shocked. Right? Do we agree? You'd be shocked? Hold on a second. No, thank you. But she's in a car here today. But our eggs are fall Pele. Exactly a century ago, in the year 1918. That wouldn't be a big problem. Even in the West, even in the West, where these ideas came
from initially. Don't believe me? Don't believe me? What was the age of consent in Britain? For as late as 1880s?
Was the age of consent?
What I mean by age of consent is marriageable age legally, by law. What was the marriageable age in Britain?
As late as the year 1880, I'm talking about the year 1880 a Toronto a cetak,
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according to Who am I making these things up? Am I coming up with these ideas that, you know, William Blackstone's commentaries on the English law. William Blackstone was an 18th century judge who wrote commentaries on the English law in four volumes published in the 18th century 1760s. And then further additions are printed as late as the early 19th century. And then his commentaries are published again in the 1860s. With new additions into the law, and that law as long as the 1860s stood that the marriageable age for a girl is seven.
Okay.
It was not recommended by universe if someone got married to a 70 years old, a girl. He wasn't doing anything illegal. According to the English law 10 was fine 12 was perfectly perfectly okay, no problem. You can get married to Toby arJ berasategui mochizuki schaghticoke Yaga. Pakistan may forget England. Forget about England in Pakistan. Pura Han nanoscope produce a hum lager Vega, Pura Honda. If someone walks in with a 12 years old wife. I'm not saying that you should do it. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I'm just I'm presenting a scenario. You know, a situation imagine a hypothetical situation in Pakistan in Islam. In this house, someone walks in one of your sons or one of your
cousin's walks in with a 12 years old wife.
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or the boss RL Farage of abolish ACTA right. Do you agree with me or do you Am I exaggerating? Right kooky societies have changed, values have changed, we have been influenced, we have been conditioned this generation which is sitting in front of me right now they cannot even imagine comprehend something like that. But a century ago these things are perfectly normal. Anyone could walk in with a 10 years old as a wife no problem better Joshua Buchanan cow. Baraka Mashallah, singing and dancing like this. We have examples, historical examples.
For Why do you need historic examples when the law allows it in the country in England, in Britain, right. So these people are conditioned. So that's why what are the causes of these rejection of modern and these rejection? Now I come to the causes. I mentioned few individuals, old and new. Started in the subcontinent is a new phenomenon altogether. It happened 1200 years ago. It was taught then it was confronted, it was buried forever. And then it reemerged in India in the subcontinent in the 19th century. Right. Some Muslim intellectuals, no doubt they were intellectuals. But being an intellectual doesn't mean that you are a scholar of Islam. You have
actually studied the tradition of Islam, the transmission of Hadees
It doesn't mean that. So, what are the qualities of these projectors? What are the qualities?
quality number one
they will be heavily influenced by Western thought
or colonial thought they will be mentally colonized. Right? They make a Western, political, moral philosophical system
a judge
over Islam, do you understand? polyshades?
Okay.
So my I don't need them by the way, when I put them on, I see different
something changes, something changes.
Now, if I color them green,
if I color them green, when I put them on, why am I gonna see
green, right?
In some places,
goats bacteria, they're not used to eating you know, eating yellow grass.
So they put green shades on there.
So that the graph looks green from the other side.
So, when you put on shades of a culture, of a philosophical system of a political system, on your eyes, and you see through those shades to look at another system, which speaks for itself on its own terms, then you will see a distorted picture of that system. You agree. When you don't allow a system to speak for itself or to work within its own framework, then you will always get a distorted system.
So when you mix China chart with the with many fruit chart me, China chart with the
trifle.
Hmm, fruit trifle something sweet. And mix it up.
Galaga Whoa, whoa, whoa, yo man. yamamura kadaga Ratan Tata samandar. Dish Mei. hora. hago? Krishna portugu. Veronica, right. Krishna, Krishna hoga. Right, there will be a reaction.
You will have food poisoning you will get problems right? Likewise, when you mix Islam with cover, overrun with Michel, mix Islam with non Islamic ideologies. Right, you will get a mishmash and you will have food poisoning. Right or something he would leave Islam to speak for itself on its own terms and leave the western philosophical political system does speak for itself on its own terms. If it works for the Westerners, we wish them well wish them well. But for the Muslims, if you really want to be Muslim, then understand Islam on its own terms. Right. So what happened was some of these intellectual in the 19th century, they put on Western shades to study the culture, the civilization
and the tradition of Islam. And they ended up with these distortions, some of the things that Hades did not fit into the western mindset or the western
thinking which was continuously evolving. By the way Western philosophical system or Western thinking or Western thought has still not stopped evolving, it is still evolving, there is no limit to changing it. Okay, it has been evolving for the last 1000 years Western philosophers keep coming with new theories with new ideas and they are applied again and again in the societies and the societies are still experimenting, right? And what we are witnessing right now is an outcome of the Enlightenment thinking, the Age of Enlightenment, which which happened in the 18th century, when Western philosophers came to rise, or came to prominence and they started to present their theories,
social theories, or political theories, economic theories, political theories in the form of for example, john Locke.
economic theory is people like Adam Smith, right? Social law or what do you call it theories on population? We have Thomas Paine. Sorry, not Thomas Paine.
Thomas Malthus. Yes, absolutely. So these philosophers came up with these theories. And the dominant philosophy that governs Western societies is called utilitarianism, which in other words can be translated as consequentialism consequentialism means if, if, if actions do not have bad consequences, then you can actually do them, you know, ends justify
the means, right?
Okay, so
this is how the system goes.
I don't want to turn this into a lecture on Western philosophy coming back to the hideous rejections of the hideous rejection. One quality you will find in these people who reject these is they are heavily influenced by colonial thought.
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colonial masters left
their bodies but never left their minds. They're still colonized mentally that's one thing. Second thing, second quality in them is
ignorance of the Islamic tradition. Most of these are these rejecters people like mama chair even including Java Muslim, these are respectfully sit them down and question them about Elmo Riyal
their AI or rewire Okay, yeah Josiah you know the sciences within the science of Hades and discuss deep topics with them as to why you rejected these for example, what are you basis? Why do you cast doubts?
Right. And you will find them to be very ignorant on basic things on the science of hobbies. And other quality in them is they are heavily influenced by the works of orientalist. mostashari. Kane mostashari King, right? Musashi Kane are people who wrote started writing in the 19th century mainly from they were Germans, they were Dutch, they were English, they were French, they started to study Islam, the history of Islam, and they had their own
lens, looking at Islam. And because they use the lens,
which was still evolving, when the lens is continuously changing, what will it show you, aka just mega Bhavani da da da, da da, da da scope, huh? argue on Cassie booty ranganna right. They will. They will, they won't, they won't be stabilized. He won't be able to see clearly what you're looking at. So a two lens revolver and then using that lens to understand and study Islam. So people like ignaz Gold Dyer, Theodore Knoll Dec. People like Springer people like William Moore, who was an oriental is writing in India. Okay. So one of the necessity is was to actually suppress Islamic movement in India as well, because
one of the causes of the Indian mutiny 1857 was that the British officers, some of them became even if evangelical Christians
and they started to spread Christianity through the power of the Empire. Okay, so they started to bring in missionaries to India, to preach Christianity to Muslims. And in this, they were disturbances. Right? Muslim scholars challenged some of these missionaries to cite one incident in 1854. There was a debate that took place in Agra and about awkward about is also known as ogra. In an Indian city, between a German missionary a German evangelist named fandor and Maulana Rahmatullah Cyrano de Rahmatullah. Cyrano de was not mainly aware of Christian theology.
But there was another man called visit Han, was Iran had studied medicine in Britain. He had come to Britain, he studied medicine in Britain. And when he studied medicine out of interest, he started to read works on Christianity, published in Britain at that time, and because of the growing rationalist movement in Britain, or in Europe, generally speaking, due to the Enlightenment period, a lot of philosophers, historians, theologians, they started to attack Christianity, because atheism grew in the 18th century in Europe, Trinity didn't make sense. They had realized the Bible is all altered, it's a corrupted word, attributed to God. Right so a lot of these things came out and was
he Han was able to read these books and learn some very powerful arguments which funder was not aware of. fonder was very well known, learned in the Quran, and the Hadith, just like we have J. Smith today. Do you know Jay Smith is have debated him many times in the park, right?
Yeah, J Smith, he knows more about the Quran and the Sunnah than he knows about Christianity, because that's what that's all he does that he will quote verses on top of verses from the Quran. Right? But when it when it comes to Christianity, the Bible, he's not very well aware of Christian theology. Christian scholarship was the Yukon that studied Christian College. He came back he
supervised Maulana Cyrano de Marana Khurana we debated founder founder was completely destroyed in that debate. And William mewar was present in that very debate.
And Moore then wrote books against Islam to do damage control. You know, he wrote a biography of the Prophet Mohammed Salah salam, and four volumes. Then he wrote a history of the caelius of Islam. Then he wrote a history of the Mamelukes and the list goes on. So these orientalist writing works. And by the way, the mirror was very closed, to say DEF CON, VEDA Muskaan was a good friend with him.
So, all of these works influenced some of these people, these intellectuals and because they had little knowledge of Islamic tradition, the science of Hades was very
underdeveloped, anyway, in India, there were people in India, whom you can count on your one hand who mastered the science of Heidi's and unfortunately, they didn't know the English language to be able to confront some of these orientalist ideas. There were people like sapana law. So you know, Xerox and Delaware. Mr. Lattimore had this in Delhi, there were people like DevOps Dickerson Khan, a great squatter of Hades. There are people like
Sheryl Sandberg, Mohsen, Al Ansari, Al Yamani, a Yemeni scholar, who was teaching in Bhopal, who was invited to Bhopal by Nawab Sadiq Khan to come and lecture on Hades in India. And then he produced two students who wrote very powerful commentaries on two important books of Hadees. So no doubt and so no teramachi without
the commentary on it was written by Schumpeter, Huck or the my buddy, who was a direct student of chef Hussein bin maxon. And Lanza, Ansari, Yamani. And the other student was
March Madness, Mubarak Puri, who wrote this commentary on Timothy titled Fatah huazi. These scholars were there but there were very few people who could speak English and confront the works of orientalist. So the orientalist were mainly read by so called intellectuals. And these intellectuals when they read the works orientalist, they thought they assumed it's got a job hoity sakta to get out of jail and a child but gotta be kitakata right. Alibaba, right. Whatever Qatar birth house Khatami very powerful arguments me Salvador Richard Dawkins Kiki dhaba God Delusion TK, yo Nana Machado anata University Miyata English co natural in any English RTA commodity Munna Guevara Shaka
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boy more within a couple of days. Okay. Right.
Or there are people who have dismantled Dawkins,
even to even to a sentence, right? There are people who have written books, Christians and Muslims.
And they're not necessarily always okay. Our brother handles all this has written a book called The Divine reality,
dismantling a lot of atheist ideas, atheistic ideas in the light of science, philosophy and all of the things right. So just because you are Jai hill on a topic, and you read a book on that topic from the opposing side, and because you don't know the answers, because you haven't studied doesn't mean there are no answers. The answers are there, you just know you just don't know them. You have no idea. So, a lot of orientalist have influenced these these reactors. So, what are the causes as to why they are these rejecters? What are the causes? I have talked about the qualities the qualities you will find in them gehele
Okay, they are influenced by colonial thought. Right. And they are influenced by orientalist. But what are the causes? In some cases?
They know they're wrong. In some cases, they know they're wrong. And how do you know that? How do you know that they know that they are wrong. Because when you challenge them to a debate, they will never come to a debate. They don't want to debate they will run away from you. They will run with with the with the tail in between the legs, they will run they will never come and face you because they don't they have too much to lose. They have too much to lose if they come if you make them look like idiots. In a debate finished, the followers will realize that this person or you know the the beautiful talking and eloquence is simply sophistry is rhetoric, there is no substance to it. Right.
So they,
they know they're wrong, but to earn money to make money. They will come out and say controversial things are Jaffna. magrabi dounia maturana
The easiest way to do it is to criticize Islam. Islam who national church horrible.
Jambi, Pakistan will be your honor. If you want to be famous you want to be, you know, put on pedestal. Let's say something stupid about Islam could National choto come up with something new, and you will become famous immediately. Controversy sells. Some people are pure controversialist, they just like attention, money or fame. And that's the problem. And other causes, again,
the lack of knowledge, why they haven't started. They haven't studied Islam. And that's why they are the way they are. And they think they're right.
Another cause was that came to mind earlier, that they are being funded. They are being supported by forces that want to promote
what we call bedini in the society, or lack of religion, or they want to confuse people, the masses about religion about Islam so that people stay away from religion, right. And a lot of these people, these are these projectors. They are very popular among people who don't want to practice Islam.
They don't want to practice Islam, they just want to make excuses. hijaab need Bernacchi the zombies of the Gambia, Germany binotto romney sonica do you know, Java dev as Gandhi said it?
Right, so a job many there is no need to have a job. Right? It's like that.
And if you want to deal in rebar, or if you they make everything halaal for you. Because, you see, when you take these out of the picture, your life becomes very easy to them. Right? You don't have to abstain from you know, a lot of things, a lot of limits that Islam puts you are freed, right you become like a Christian believe in the cross and you have salvation. Right?
So you don't have to do your mas. You don't have to do all these things * because you're up near right. And then they misinterpret the Quran. They do all kinds of stupid interpretations on the Quran, and because of that, they are misguided. So
this was a brief summary of the fifth owner of in Cairo, Hades, in the subcontinent. And in another setting inshallah we can possibly discuss in length, some of the arguments and the rebuttals, right, today was an introduction to the history of ngaro Hadees in the subcontinent primarily. And I hope I have done justice to the topic and in the future in another setting. inshallah, as I stated, we will deal with the arguments one by one, what arguments they bring up. And, you know, for example, the age of Russia was one of the things I mean, when things do not fit into the frame of mind, they start to reject them, they just wash your hands away, without giving any reasons. Now, I asked them
a question that if Buhari has reasons to believe that the province of Islam said something, definitely without a doubt, what basis do you have to data rejected? For example, there are reports and sale Bukhari there are three people between Iran Buhari and the Messenger of Allah.
Three people,
Buhari narrates from his teacher, Maki ignobly, Ebrahim, Maki blavia, Abraham's read from his teachers, you know, obey, obey, obey, obey the read from his teacher thalamotomy law and integration, the professor solemn. So which one is a liar in the chain tell us why do we need to reject these reports. Then there are reported four narratives of the love and use of
thought Buhari, and then he was taught by Malik bananas malignant, and it's not fair enough from Abdullah bin Omar and the Prophet for people in the chain between Bukhari and rasulillah salam, which one which one is a liar. All of them are public figures, teaching publicly what they had heard from their teachers. And those teachers had thought publicly, they were known figures in public to 1000s of people. And the list goes on up to the promise of last long, why do we need to reject? This is why they don't come for a debate. They have erroneous reasons to reject these, some of them.
Yes, inshallah. I'm going to come to q&a in a minute, inshallah I'm finishing right now. So a lot of these questions come up, for example, about the use of eyeshadow of Yolanda that she was married to the professor when he was when she was nine and the profit of 53. Today, currently in the modern age, because we have been influenced by liberal secular thought. It is abhorrent to us right. Back in the day, even when the Europeans were struggling with liberalism and secularism. It wasn't a problem for them. It wasn't a problem for them. No, no, no, it was legally allowed. It was legally allowed.
Before he jumped to the seventh century to condemn the Messenger of Allah salam, can we start with the 19th century? And tell all the English people that all your ancestors were a bunch of pedophiles?
Yes, because he was legally allowed
all the judges all the lawyers all the people who practice that law are a bunch of pedophiles before we go on to a person and and then go to the 18th century and then go to the 17th and and the 16th and the 15th and then you see the 15th century you have King Henry the Eighth getting married to his wife at 12
right and the list goes on there are so many the canon law the Catholic canon law, what was the age of consent, what was the marriageable age 1010.
So all of these things these people who reject had these okay had these claim cargado john Georgia, this is the logic the logic is Elise can cargo Johnny Georgia because we're different Kentucky? No, we don't see territory just because of just because someone doesn't like it.
So inshallah, in the future, we will discuss these things in detail and look at some of the arguments. Stop now. Thank you so much for being patient and listening. And hopefully you're benefited. And if you have, please keep us in your prayers and ask Allah to accept our efforts. Welcome to Dhawan and Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil aalameen