Adnan Rashid – Conversation inside Hagia Sophia

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A tour guide leads a tour of Islamic history, highlighting sites like the Roman history and sites like the Islamic culture. The guide emphasizes the importance of showing the story in the context of the tour guide's work with Brother Tariq. The success of the tour guide's work with Brother Tariq is highlighted, including the rise of Muslims in Turkey and the need for inspiration to reconnect with their culture. The choice of "medicals for tours" and "medicals for vacations" is also discussed, with a recommendation to check out " edggetaways.com."

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			Hi everyone, I am here with Brother Tariq
		
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			from Halal Getaways.
		
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			As-salamu alaykum Masha'Allah, so Brother Tariq
		
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			is a tour organiser who organises tours to
		
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			historic sites in Turkey, in Spain and Morocco.
		
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			And Alhamdulillah, many Muslims from around the world,
		
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			from Canada, from Australia, from the US, from
		
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			UK, from other parts of the world, they
		
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			are joining, even UAE and Saudi Arabia, we've
		
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			had many amazing guests joining these tours.
		
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			So I want to talk about these tours.
		
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			I've been working with Brother Tariq for a
		
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			while and what is the purpose of these
		
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			tours and what are we trying to achieve?
		
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			Welcome.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			So tell me Brother Tariq, why are you
		
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			doing these tours?
		
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			How long have you been doing these tours
		
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			for?
		
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			Spain we started 22 years ago and since
		
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			then we've added Turkey and Morocco.
		
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			And the reason is we want to show
		
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			Islamic history, Islamic history from a Muslim perspective.
		
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			So it's really important for people to visit
		
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			these sites.
		
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			But with people who know about the history
		
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			and also to take lessons from the history
		
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			that's there.
		
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			A lot of people come, they visit sites,
		
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			they take photos, they go back, they learn
		
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			a little bit of information.
		
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			But what are the lessons from these places?
		
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			And also the narrative, it's told with a
		
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			story.
		
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			So it's like you're living through a story
		
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			and it's a story narrative that they follow.
		
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			So for example as we've just done this
		
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			Ottoman one.
		
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			We started right at the beginning and we
		
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			covered the Roman history pre-Islam.
		
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			How Islam was founded, how it came about
		
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			and then the early attempts and then the
		
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			Ottomans.
		
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			Before we even get to the Ottomans we
		
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			cover the early...
		
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			So people get a real idea of the...
		
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			So let me very quickly explain this because
		
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			I've been on the tour as well and
		
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			I'm explaining history as we go along.
		
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			Brother Tariq Mashallah is an accomplished historian.
		
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			He does presentations every single evening to give
		
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			a better appreciation to the participants.
		
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			The history of Ottomans in particular and the
		
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			history of Turkey in general.
		
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			So we start from Iznik, ancient Nicaea, explaining
		
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			the Roman past, Roman history and the Council
		
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			of Nicaea.
		
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			The beginning of the Christian theology let's say.
		
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			It began in Nicaea where the doctrine of
		
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			the Trinity was formalized.
		
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			And then we make our way to Sugut
		
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			which is where the Ottomans were initiated or
		
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			started.
		
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			First settled.
		
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			First settled.
		
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			Ertugrul Ghazi was based there and you know
		
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			the Ertugrul series.
		
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			Everyone knows about it and we tell actual
		
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			history on the ground.
		
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			We take people to the monuments and their
		
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			tombs and explain the history.
		
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			And then we move to Bursa where six
		
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			of the early Ottoman Sultans are buried.
		
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			From Othman Ghazi onwards all the way up
		
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			to Murad II who was the father of
		
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			Sultan Muhammad al-Fatih who conquered Constantinople.
		
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			And then we make our way to Constantinople
		
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			i.e. Istanbul.
		
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			And we come to great mosques like Sulaymaniyah
		
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			and Sultan Ahmed.
		
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			And right now we are in Hagia Sophia.
		
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			So this is the journey.
		
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			A short summary.
		
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			And why are we doing this?
		
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			I want to ask brother Tariq.
		
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			What are we trying to achieve from these
		
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			tours in particular when it comes to Muslims?
		
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			You could say Islamic reconnection, a revival, a
		
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			connection with their history.
		
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			If you don't know your history then you're
		
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			basically nobody.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			Identity.
		
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			There's lots of issues that need to be
		
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			addressed and through journeys like this, I think
		
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			many of those get addressed especially young Muslims.
		
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			As you know, young Muslims are going through
		
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			an identity crisis and a journey like this
		
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			really reconnects them with their heritage.
		
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			But even older people as well.
		
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			We have all sorts of people.
		
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			Everyone needs inspiration.
		
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			Everyone needs to be inspired.
		
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			Can I ask you as a historian, somebody
		
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			who does lectures, talks, vlogs, you have like,
		
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			you know, some YouTube presentations.
		
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			Why is people traveling on a journey like
		
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			this with someone like you, like yourself, different
		
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			to listening to a lecture, to reading a
		
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			book, to, you know, what's the impact of
		
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			the actual journey itself?
		
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			You see brother Tariq is a very polite
		
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			brother as you can tell, but I am
		
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			very blunt.
		
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			I will say bluntly that Muslims have no
		
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			idea what is out here.
		
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			Most Muslims who have never been to Turkey,
		
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			never been to Islamic Spain, those who can
		
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			actually afford to do so, you are missing
		
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			out big time.
		
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			You have challenges with your children.
		
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			You have challenges with your youngsters going astray,
		
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			going off to other ideologies, possibly going on
		
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			drugs and doing all sorts of shenanigans.
		
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			And you're worried about them that why are
		
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			they behaving like this?
		
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			Background, the context of why, how, where, when,
		
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			who, all of this is very important.
		
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			And when everything is explained in detail, the
		
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			legacies of Sultans, why they fought certain battles,
		
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			why they took territories, what were they working
		
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			for?
		
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			What were their aspirations?
		
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			Why did they end up making such grand
		
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			structures like Sulaymaniyah Mosque or the Blue Mosque
		
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			in Sultan Ahmed Square?
		
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			Or why was Hagia Sophia turned into a
		
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			Masjid when Sultan Fateh took the city in
		
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			1453 from the Romans?
		
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			How did the Roman Empire collapse?
		
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			How did the Ottoman rise?
		
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			And what lessons can we take from the
		
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			Ottoman history?
		
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			If you don't bring your children, your youngsters
		
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			or even your elders to these places, especially
		
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			when you can afford to do it, you
		
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			are losing.
		
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			You're missing out.
		
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			We might spend money on holidays to islands
		
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			and, you know, going to exotic countries to
		
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			spend time there.
		
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			This is the best place to bring your
		
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			families, your kids, your youngsters, your elders, so
		
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			that you can have quality time together and
		
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			learn the history of Islam in general and
		
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			the history of Ottomans in particular.
		
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			Okay, so I am here every few months
		
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			on the ground with Halal Getaways.
		
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			Brother Tariq has been at it for a
		
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			very long time and he's very passionate about
		
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			history.
		
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			I am myself, you can tell from my
		
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			content, it's mostly history based and we're trying
		
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			to really revive appreciation for the history of
		
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			Islam in the Muslim community around the world.
		
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			Okay, we are missing out.
		
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			We are really lost and we can never
		
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			find the way again unless we study our
		
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			history carefully and master it, take control of
		
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			it.
		
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			We should teach our history to the world,
		
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			not our enemies.
		
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			Brother Tariq?
		
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			Just finally, I mean like the impact of
		
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			a journey like this, I don't think anything
		
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			compares.
		
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			You can do as many courses.
		
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			Of course, I'm not saying don't do courses
		
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			and don't study and don't read books.
		
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			Of course, you must do that.
		
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			But the impact of a journey like this,
		
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			you can't put a value on it.
		
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			100% You can't put any kind of
		
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			value on it.
		
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			100% We've seen it, we've been doing
		
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			it for 22 years.
		
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			We work with youth, we have other people
		
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			coming.
		
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			We have people who have been to these
		
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			destinations before.
		
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			They've been to Turkey before, they've been to
		
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			Spain before, they've been to Morocco and then
		
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			they come on a journey like this and
		
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			they say, wow, we're just seeing it in
		
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			a completely different light altogether.
		
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			We really didn't come before.
		
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			We want to just come for the first
		
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			time now.
		
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			So the impact of a journey like this
		
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			is invaluable.
		
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			And yes, you can visit, bring your kids
		
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			if you can, but try to join one
		
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			of the tours.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			Destinations are selected for a reason as well.
		
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			They're not just random destinations.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			These destinations are very carefully chosen, specifically chosen
		
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			for specific reasons.
		
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			We are right now sitting inside Hagia Sophia,
		
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			the famous Hagia Sophia that was once upon
		
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			a time, the biggest church in the world.
		
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			It was completed in 537 CE, almost 30
		
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			to 40 years before the Prophet sallallahu alayhi
		
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			wa sallam was born.
		
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			Okay, the structure around us, you can see
		
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			it.
		
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			Yeah, we're just finishing in a few minutes.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Okay, we're finishing now.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So this structure around us is more than
		
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			1,400 years old.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			The pillars, the walls, the dome has been
		
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			fixed many times.
		
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			So there's a reason why we are here.
		
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			It was recently turned into a masjid again
		
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			from a museum.
		
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			And a lot of Muslim youngsters take inspiration.
		
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			So brothers and sisters, you do tours to
		
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			Spain, to Turkey, to Morocco, to teach Islamic
		
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			history and many tours are coming up soon.
		
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			Check out halalgetaways.com, halalgetaways.com.
		
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			And we're going to be doing more of
		
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			these interviews and content so that you can
		
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			appreciate the work we're doing inshallah and join
		
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			in the future.
		
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			Thank you so much for listening.
		
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			As-salamu alaykum.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Thank you.