Adnan Rashid – African Qadiani Imam Left Confused

Adnan Rashid
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As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

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I am calling from Samoa Island, but I'm

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originally from Ghana.

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Are you Ahmadi?

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First of all, yes, I am an Ahmadi

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Muslim, a very strong believer in Mirza Ghulam

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Ahmad.

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Now, Adnan Rashid made a statement right now

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that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad does not even deserve

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to be a schoolteacher, just about a few

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minutes ago.

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And Adnan Rashid is also on record for

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saying that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's writing, particularly Barahini

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Ahmadiyya, is one of the greatest writings in

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Islam.

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So I want to ask him, is that

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not a contradiction?

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Good question, very good question.

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Someone's character determines how qualified a person is.

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No, I am not asking about character.

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Wait, I'm answering, I'm answering, I'm answering.

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No, no, no, brother, I'm not asking about

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character.

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I am answering, I am answering.

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He's answering in his way, let him answer,

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Imam.

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Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, I am answering your

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question.

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Someone, to be a good author and a

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good writer, doesn't make him a good person

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necessarily.

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Okay, when someone writes a good book and

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someone is a good author and writes the

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truth in it, because Barahini Ahmadiyya has good

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arguments for Islam, it has.

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At that time, can you mute him?

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Can you mute him?

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Yeah.

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Can you mute him?

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Hashim, can you mute him?

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Yeah, I did, I did.

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Okay, okay.

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Hear my answer, Imam Sahib.

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Stop laughing, stop laughing.

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You have a beautiful smile, but stop laughing,

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stop laughing.

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You're not listening, are you?

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Are you listening?

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Are you listening?

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Okay, good, listening.

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Someone who is a good writer and makes

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good argument is not necessarily a good person.

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And if a person is not a good

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person and a person is a liar and

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is a person of no credibility and is

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a person of contradictions, that person should not

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be a school teacher.

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Do you understand me?

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Barahini Ahmadiyya has correct aqeedah.

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For example, it says Isa A.S. is

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alive in the heavens with Allah and will

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return near the end of times, which you

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people don't accept, which Mirza himself later on

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changed.

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He changed his belief.

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He changed his aqeedah.

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Okay, first he writes, wait, wait, wait, let

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me finish.

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First he writes, first he writes in Barahini

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Ahmadiyya that Jesus is alive with Allah and

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he will return near the end of times.

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That is something beautiful.

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That's a beautiful aqeedah.

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That's our belief and Mirza confirmed it.

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So that's a good thing about the book.

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Now, same guy who wrote this book later

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on started to make the blunders we have

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already mentioned.

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I'm going to ask you, I'm going to

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let you defend Mirza now.

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Let's see what you can do for Mirza

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sahib.

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Okay.

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Mirza sahib said.

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I asked a specific, I asked a specific

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thing.

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Wait, wait, wait, pause, pause, pause, this is

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not a debate.

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Adnan bhai, we want to go back to

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the prophecies because this will carry on.

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Otherwise, this is a tactic.

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Don't forget.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Let's go back to the prophecies.

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So Imam sahib, now that you're here, we're

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going to put a prophecy to you.

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Let's see if you can respond to it.

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Imtaz bhai, go ahead.

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Brother Hashim.

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Yes.

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I asked a specific question.

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First of all, I am here to help

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all the audience to also know the truth.

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And I saw that you were with brother

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Raziullah for a long time going back and

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forth.

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But a simple statement that brother Adnan Rashid

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made that I wanted to make a clarification

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on.

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I wanted him to make a clarification on.

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Now, this is a man who has the

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ability to defend Islam.

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But Imam, you need to understand that we

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have a specific topic.

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And the thing is, every time we sidetrack,

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we just go unnecessary tangents, which will not

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benefit anyone.

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I was just coming to that.

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Okay.

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Make your point quickly.

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I'll give you one minute.

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But I want to come back on the

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topic at hand, which is about the prophecies

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of Ghulam Ahmad.

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Yes.

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So, first of all, the point that I

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was trying to make is that Adnan Rashid

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accepts that the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad,

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peace be upon him, and particularly for Barahini

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Ahmadiyya, is one of the greatest works in

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Islam.

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How does a defender of Islam, writing a

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book, being one of the greatest in defense

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of Islam and the Prophet, peace be upon

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him, not even fit to be a teacher?

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That is what I cannot understand.

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So that is what I want Adnan Rashid

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to address.

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Now, going back to Barahini Ahmad, going back

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to say that he said that Isa, peace

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be upon him, is in heaven, and later

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on, we know that he said that when

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he was in heaven, when he was appointed

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as a prophet.

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Okay.

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So you want an answer or you don't

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want an answer?

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Yes, I want an answer.

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Okay.

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Let Adnan speak, and please do not interject.

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I believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani wrote some

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good arguments in Barahini Ahmadiyya.

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I believe that.

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But later on, Mirza Ahmad, having done some

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good work, became a kafir, became a disbeliever

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by claiming to be a prophet when he

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had no authority to do so.

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And on top of that, his own writings

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later on show that he was a liar,

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mentally deranged, a foolish man who was actually

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not, he didn't know what he was doing.

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Now, I'll give you other examples of that.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, let me

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finish, let me finish, let me finish.

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I'll give you another example.

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There was a man called Rashad Khalifa who

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wrote a book titled 19.

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He proposed a theory from the Quran that

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the Quran is mathematically coded by using the

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number 19.

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That book was taken as one of the

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greatest books.

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Are you listening, Imam Sahib, or you're paying

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some of your attention somewhere else?

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Listen to me.

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That book was hailed as a great book

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by the scholars.

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Same man, Rashad Khalifa, Rashad Khalifa, same man,

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later on apostatized and used his own same

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theory to challenge Islam.

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Rashad Khalifa now, if I say today that

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his book on 19 was a good book,

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am I endorsing him as a good person?

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Am I endorsing him as a valid source

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of Islam?

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Absolutely not.

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Absolutely not.

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You have limited brain cells, the Ahmadis, I

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don't mean you as a person, I mean

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Ahmadis, limited brain cells that cannot get the

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message out.

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I don't mean all Ahmadis, by the way,

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I mean the missionaries in particular, the missionary,

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the Ahmadi missionaries, they have limited brain cells

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because they misquote everyone.

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What they do is, they ignore the fatwa

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of kufr upon Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, which

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was facilitated by Battalavi and other scholars.

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What they do is, they take Battalavi's earlier

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writings, like what they do to me, what

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they're doing to me right now, okay, they

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do that to Battalavi.

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Battalavi similarly praised Burahini Ahmadiyya when it was

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authored.

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Okay, in the 1880s, when Burahini Ahmadiyya was

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authored, Battalavi praised it for its virtues because

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it had some virtues.

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But later on, Battalavi is the same man

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who declared takseer upon Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani,

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made him, basically called him a kafir and

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got a fatwa on him.

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Ahmadis, the missionaries, completely ignore the fatwa and

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they use his earlier praise, which was done

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for the right reasons, for the right time.

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Okay, so you guys need to have some

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shame and get the message.

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Over to you now.

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Okay, thank you.

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So, first of all, everyone knows that Rashad

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Khalifa was killed and so you cannot compare

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him to someone who is claiming to be

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a prophet and who has been protected upon

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all the accusations, upon all the hatred, was

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still protected throughout his life until he completed

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his life.

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You cannot compare him to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

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in any way.

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That's the first point.

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Allah himself promised in the Quran that he

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will protect anyone, I mean, he will kill

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anyone who lies about him.

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So for Rashad Khalifa to be killed is

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a clear indication that he cannot be a

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true person.

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I am saying that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has

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the ability to defend Islam, to even write

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a great book in Islam.

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How will you say that such a person

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does not fit to teach?

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Now, you claim that he was doing good

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things at the beginning and later on because

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he claimed to be a prophet, the people

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turned against him.

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That is the case of all prophets, including

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the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam himself, when

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the people usually call him as Sadiq Wa

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Amin, but when he claimed to be a

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prophet, they referred him to be a liar.

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In the Quran, the Quran says that he

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is a madman.

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According to the Quran, the people call the

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Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam a madman.

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So your calling Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Alayhi Salam

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names does not change the fact that he

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is a prophet.

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Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, let's have a conversation.

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Let's talk.

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The Quran says that they called him.

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I don't need evidence of someone calling him

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to accept him.

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, Imam Sahib, the Quran speaks the truth.

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I agree with you.

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Tell me who was the, yes, who was

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the Quran referring to that they called him

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madman?

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I don't, I don't even need evidence.

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Once the Quran says I accept him, you

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need to understand the question.

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Try to understand the question.

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Who was making the allegations?

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That is my answer to the question.

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My answer to the question.

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Okay, Adnan tell him.

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He doesn't know.

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I accept every word of the Quran, so

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once the Quran says it, I don't need

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evidence to say that.

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I don't think he understood the question.

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Adnan maybe give the answer.

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You explain the question.

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Okay, so you know, I'm basically what he's

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asking is who made the allegation Regarding the

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professor of Salam that he was a madman.

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Was it the believers or was it the

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disbelievers in simple terms?

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Exactly And he's calling me names Madman

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We got your point in on Mom, so

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let's have a conversation.

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Are you willing to do that?

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Of course.

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Yes Okay, brilliant When the Quran says that

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people called him a madman Who is the

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Quran talking about which people I?

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Have I have answered this way I have

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just answered you Was it the believers or

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the non-believers and I just told you

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It is Okay, I

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think

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we lost at none his connection issues again

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And in fact one point that I want

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I want to add before Adnan comes is

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that the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam?

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Has he has compared Muslims to the Jews?

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So just as the Jews were calling the

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Messiah names and not believing in him for

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over 2,000 years The same have the

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Muslims rejected the Messiah and calling him name

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Okay, so let him just let him just

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come in because I think I've not having

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some issues with this kind You already made

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a point several times let let him just

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come in gone Yes, so Imam Saab our

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first of all, it's a pleasure to have

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you on the platform Definitely you have every

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right to defend your religion Massa I just

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want to mention am I in already?

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Yes, but you got a different picture on

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your Yeah, we can hear you Adnan you

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got a different profile picture Yeah, it's one

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of my friends.

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I'm using his account.

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So sorry about that.

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Yeah, isn't my friend.

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Isn't my friend amazing good-looking He's got

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swag He's got swag, okay, so so so

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the camera before the camera turns on I

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want to talk to him on some nicely

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Beautifully compassionately before a month of showers.

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I Requested you remain calm and answer my

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questions so that we can have a fruitful

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conversation and end it very quickly It won't

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stop the Quran says people called him Majnun

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Matt right.

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Okay.

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So these people are disbelievers.

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These are mostly keen of Makkah, correct?

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Yeah Okay, all of these people in months

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up all of them every single one of

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them believed in Muhammad Rasul Allah sallallahu sallam

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before his all of them Every single one

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of them wait.

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No, let me It is not true Let

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him finish and then you can come in

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him himself None finish and then you can

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come.

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Okay.

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Yeah, your argument has not stand every single

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time You're trying to bring the Quran and

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it doesn't support you amazingly your Ahmadi religion

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Okay, the Quran tells us that these people

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were calling the Prophet madman a Magician Okay,

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a soothsayer all these things.

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Okay Okay, all of these people before the

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death of the Prophet sallallahu sallam They believed

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in him the Quraysh.

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These are the same people who fought for

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Islam They went as far as China and

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Spain These same people not one of them

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was left that they believed in Islam and

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the messenger of Allah There's no Muhammad Qadiani

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when people called him mad mentally deranged a

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Okay Majority of his own relatives including Muhammad

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I beggar her husband and The father of

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Muhammad I beggar which we will talk about

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in due course his own relatives Never believed

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in him and died believing in orthodox Islam

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with pride So your point is redundant stop

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making lame points and wasting our time over

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to you Can I respond to that?

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First of all, it is not true that

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or everyone who was calling the Prophet names

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Accepted him.

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In fact, it is a fact that they

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even fought with him.

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Some even died in Yakufu They fought with

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the Prophet and his Sahaba and some died

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in the in the process So not all

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of them accepted him number two number two

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during the time of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu

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sallam There were Jews in Medina.

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There were Christians in Medina.

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Not all of them accepted the Prophet sallallahu

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sallam They did not accept him because they

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did not believe in him So it is

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not true for you to make this claim

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that all of them accepted him And in

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fact, even if we should accept your argument

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they accepted him at what time during the

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last period when the Prophet sallallahu sallam It

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was even I was about to go to

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his Lord Islam continues to till today and

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in the Arab world.

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There are people who still do not accept

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the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu sallam So what is

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this argument?

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Muhammad sallallahu sallam also came Allah sent him

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revelations.

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He claimed to be a prophet and as

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a prophet Not every single person accepted him

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including those who were praising him before just

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as the Prophet They were praising him But

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when he claimed to be a prophet as

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is happening to all prophets They now turn

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back to reject him and call him names

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I Think you know, to be honest, this

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is not going anywhere.

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Let's not waste time on this.

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Yes Okay, firstly you made a claim that

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they were calling him Madman, I asked you

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who which people you confirmed the Qurayshi's his

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enemies I Asked you specifically mushriks mushrikin and

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you said yes No, not the Quran does

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not call the mushrikin because they are look

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it up so you don't know what you're

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talking about you're so Jahil Show

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me with the Quran cause the specifically Quran

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Mentions in directly about the shirk of the

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Jews and the Christians no doubt Okay But

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the Quran gives them a title a title

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of the kitab mushrikin specifically when the Quran

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mentions mushrikin It specifically talks about idol worshipers

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of courage.

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So I Responded to you.

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Your point doesn't stand.

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There's no He died a very sad man.

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Okay died Defecating next to it, but and

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then he fell on his back and he

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died.

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Okay, this is though He died.

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He was diseased with it.

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Did you you know that he claimed to

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be Masimo who he claimed to be the

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Messiah?

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You know the term Messiah the term Masih

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means and one of the meanings is that

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the one who touches people Masaha Masaha, the

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one who touches people and heals them.

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Okay Jesus Islam one of his greatest miracles

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was that he would touch people and he

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would heal them Here we have a man

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called miserable on Ahmad Qadiani who claims to

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be Masih Mahmood the promised Messiah who was

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disease riddle ridden riddle with disease riddled diabetes

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Diarrhea for years Wait, wait, wait, wait finish

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let me finish when his own son His

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own son Wait, wait, let me finish.

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Okay his own son his own son in

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syrup of Mahdi Writes about him that my

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father suffered from severe bouts of diarrhea severe

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bouts of diarrhea for years and he was

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Mahmood he was the promised Messiah.

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He was the return of Jesus Let me

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finish let me finish we're gonna have to

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move on you can stay with us mom's

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up You're most welcome to stay with us

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But we're gonna move on to the next

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topic so that we can do the prophecies

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the topic of the day Let me finish

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let me finish first, so when you guys

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come to us Okay to be honest with

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you.

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You know what?

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I Really feel sorry for the people of

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Ghana in particular where the Ahmadi's have gone

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to You know simple people and you know

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They have managed to deceive them because people

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of Ghana don't know or do the people

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of Ghana They don't know or do they

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don't know the writings of Mirza.

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They don't know who is our Ahmed is

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people of Ghana accepted this cut Thinking that

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this is the religion of Islam They think

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this is the religion of Islam, but they

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don't know what the real religion of Islam

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is my brother.

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Okay, so Who you claim to be the

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Messiah Could not even heal himself.

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Let alone others.

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How can he be the return of Jesus

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Christ?

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How can he Let

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him just make a quick point, wait a

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minute Imam Let him just make a quick

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point and then you can come in and

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that will be your last point.

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Yeah, okay Go ahead in this way.

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Okay, exactly.

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Oh I'm also first of all Let me

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say it because you know, you said to

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a non boy that you don't get heated

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I'm also of you know, these topics are

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very close to our hearts.

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Okay, this is not this is something sense

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It was not to be disrespectful to you.

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It happens to all of us.

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Okay, because these topics are very sensitive close

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to our hearts So, please accept apologies.

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It's not to hurt your feelings number one

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number two amounts of the point is this

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Adnan by initially said and which initiated the

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whole conversation Adnan by said and this is

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what this was your objection on Adnan that

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how can you call up this person who

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was defending?

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Muslim he was defending the being how can

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you call him that he was not even

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qualified to be a teacher the master my

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point My simple request is this obviously because

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this today's a live stream It's not on

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this topic.

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If you are interested, okay, if you are

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interested, let me request you.

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Okay will make topic character of Ghulam Ahmed

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According to his own writings and according to

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his own followers And then I will let

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you speak that you tell me if a

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person has this character Is it justifiable to

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say that his character was very very questionable

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and either it does not even Good to

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be a teacher.

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So I will let but now now the

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problem is because stream is not on this

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topic Okay, and last point amounts up.

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I want to make is this please pay

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attention to this this very important point When

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Ahmadis, you know when they try to address

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the objections against Mirza sahib What they say?

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Oh this prophet, you know was rejected as

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you said as well Oh, hey, they were

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every nation called their prophet a lawyer, etc,

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etc Imam sir, we are not discussing about

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a prophet.

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The point is when Issa Ibn Maryam This

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was the claim of Mirza side that when

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Issa Ibn Maryam will come Imam sir.

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I invite you Please look it into Islamic

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literature We do not have any evidence that

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when Issa Ibn Maryam will come Muslims Imams

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scholars and Muslim prominent people they will reject

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him.

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They are waiting for him So, please don't

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compare him with other It's not comparative a

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secondly We have no evidence in our tradition

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the whole Islam that the sea will come

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and make a claim There is no such

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thing.

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We are not waiting for any Messiah, please

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this term Messiah Mo or promise Messiah is

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a wrong term.

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It's a Jewish term We are not waiting

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for any Messiah Christians and Muslim will both

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agree that Issa Ibn Maryam May Allah Give

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him high status has already come as Messiah.

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This term is very deceptive.

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Please don't buy this term Oh, it's a

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Jewish term because Jews are still waiting for

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the problem Sorry, we are waiting for Issa

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Ibn Maryam to come back.

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We are not waiting for any Messiah These

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two things they may seem close to you,

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but they are very different example If a

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person comes he says I'm a Messiah there

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both possibilities people might accept him people might

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reject him But when Issa Ibn Maryam will

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come Imam Saeed the whole ummah will accept

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him because they are waiting for him to

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come back And we have all the hopes

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of peace and prosperity in this world pinned

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on his second coming.

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So there is no such To

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respond to the two Yeah, no, no, no

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because you made some claims I need to

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respond to that before You said that you

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are sad for Ghanaians for accepting Alhamdulillah, alhamdulillah

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Ahmadiyya is going very well in Ghana and

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I'm very grateful to Allah for allowing First

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of all, you said because we don't act

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because we don't understand And that is the

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point I am taking you on on that

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and that is why the Azula was on

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you that you should discuss point from the

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Quran because every Muslim in Ghana at least

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majority of them can Recite the Quran, but

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they may not know what you are saying

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whether it is true or not If any

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I'm ready doesn't come here to disprove you

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any I'm ready who can read If they

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don't come here to disprove you how many

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how they know that you are speaking the

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truth or the I'm ready Muslim is speaking

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the truth, but for the Quran it is

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abundant online Everywhere anybody can read it and

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that is why they were calling you to

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discuss the death of another piece I'll a

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slam when the Quran is clear that another

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piece of Islam is dead If I'm ready

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Muslims in Ghana, I accepted Marissa Gulam Ahmed.

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I'll a slam it is based on his

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teaching from the Quran Which is true, which

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is accepted by the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi

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wasalam and the Sahaba number one number two

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You claim that Marissa Gulam Ahmed.

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I'll a slam cannot be MSC because he

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was sick the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam

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He himself was also sick Because prophets are

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men and So anything that can happen to

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a man can also happen to them and

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it is not true

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It

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is I Make a point after You

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have ten seconds His own son his own

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son writes in his book that Mirza sahib

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Relieved himself.

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He had a diarrhea very severe bout of

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diarrhea.

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He relieved himself I will pull out.

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I will pull up right now.

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I'll pull out right now.

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You want to listen you are Okay, okay

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go ahead you talk I'll show you So

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now now the point is the point that

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I was making is that when you pull

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out anything How was somebody very fun?

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When I just do How The Quran is

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translated Sunnis have translated Okay

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No, no, you made your point gave you

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more than two minutes now Yeah Thank

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you, thank you, okay First of all, I

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requested you because you this is how everything

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started you claim That how can we say

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these kind of things against Mirza sahib?

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Okay.

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This was a starting point.

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I have requested you So, what do you

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think about this?

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We want to present to you?

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Evidence from his own writings from his own

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followers And then we want you to tell

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us that if he has these writings these

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character.

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Are we?

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Rightfully saying him that he was not a

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person good character or are you lying at

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him number one and number two?

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Okay, very quickly because this is again.

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This is not a topic Inshallah, but how

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she will give you one minute inshallah my

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Imam Sahib I want you to read from

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the Quran that because you said come to

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the Quran just inshallah for all of us

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read that verse from the Quran which says

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that Isa Ibn Maryam has died number one

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and number two Isa Ibn Maryam will come

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back in the last days as a form

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of an other person So this number two,

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please court listen before your police in the

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point very carefully You need to show me

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where Quran says that an other person will

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come in the later day in the last

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days And he will be Isa Ibn Maryam

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show me that verse First of all, the

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Quran is very clear You need to understand

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the question and answer the question only please

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because I've already given you guys more time

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about this topic Which is not really the

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topic Question is very clear.

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Just answer the question, please Imam was trying

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to say that we Muslims are not living

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by the Quran.

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I simply said you one thing Please listen

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the question very carefully mom So my question

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is show me that verse of the Quran

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which says that Isa Ibn Maryam will come

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in the last days as a form of

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an other person No, you first said that

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I should show you a verse of the

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Quran where I know he said is dead.

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No, no I don't know.

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No, no.

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No, I want to say we specified the

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second one just answer that because you're just

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wasting time So the Quran will not say

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he will come back So the

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Quran and the Quran clearly says that anyone

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any any people who have come before That

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have passed away that have died.

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It is haram for them to come back

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So the Quran will not make this claim

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and then tell you that another Islam will

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come back So another is Allah is dead

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according to the Quran and will never come

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back So if you see a hadith that

00:34:22 --> 00:34:25

a mercy is promised that he will come

00:34:25 --> 00:34:27

Then somebody else will come and we have

00:34:27 --> 00:34:27

precedent.

00:34:28 --> 00:34:30

We have precedent in history that precedent is

00:34:30 --> 00:34:35

that and maybe Among the Jews Elijah is

00:34:35 --> 00:34:37

supposed to have ascended to the sky as

00:34:37 --> 00:34:39

you Muslims believe even though there are proofs

00:34:39 --> 00:34:43

that Elijah Elijah was not ascended So Elijah

00:34:43 --> 00:34:46

will come back as The Jews believe and

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48

as Muslims also believe that another user is

00:34:48 --> 00:34:50

in the skies and you come back now

00:34:50 --> 00:34:53

The Quran makes it clear that another user

00:34:53 --> 00:34:55

is dead So when you see that somebody

00:34:55 --> 00:34:58

else will come just as somebody else came

00:34:58 --> 00:35:01

in the spirit of Elijah So shall somebody

00:35:01 --> 00:35:03

else come in the name of another Israel

00:35:03 --> 00:35:03

in Salam?

00:35:04 --> 00:35:06

That is the precedent we have and now

00:35:06 --> 00:35:10

the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Gives

00:35:10 --> 00:35:13

a similarity between the Muslims and the Jews

00:35:13 --> 00:35:16

Has one not only been done and then

00:35:16 --> 00:35:18

he says that they will resemble like two

00:35:18 --> 00:35:21

pair of shoes The resemblance here is that

00:35:21 --> 00:35:24

the Jews are believing that a prophet has

00:35:24 --> 00:35:27

ascended to the skies the Muslims are also

00:35:27 --> 00:35:29

believing that a prophet has ascended to the

00:35:29 --> 00:35:32

skies and Then they are believing that that

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

prophet will come from the skies because of

00:35:34 --> 00:35:36

that They did not believe in the Messiah

00:35:36 --> 00:35:39

the Muslims in the same way I also

00:35:39 --> 00:35:41

believe in that a prophet has ascended to

00:35:41 --> 00:35:42

the skies because of that.

00:35:43 --> 00:35:45

They are not accepting the Messiah number one

00:35:45 --> 00:35:49

number two In the Quran the Quran is

00:35:49 --> 00:35:52

clear that another user is a rasool in

00:35:52 --> 00:35:55

a bunny israel And maybe isa is not

00:35:55 --> 00:35:57

a rasool in an island He is not

00:35:57 --> 00:35:59

a rasool for the whole of mankind, but

00:35:59 --> 00:36:01

a rasool to the to only the banu

00:36:01 --> 00:36:02

israel.

00:36:02 --> 00:36:16

Yeah For

00:36:16 --> 00:36:21

the whole of humanity Just one statement just

00:36:21 --> 00:36:24

one statement inshallah, okay Imam sir, you can

00:36:24 --> 00:36:27

watch the stream again You said to all

00:36:27 --> 00:36:30

of us that this Quran this is our

00:36:30 --> 00:36:32

being come to this Quran I simply asked

00:36:32 --> 00:36:34

you the question that caught me.

00:36:35 --> 00:36:38

That's that verse from the Quran Either it

00:36:38 --> 00:36:40

says you said that Issa has dead.

00:36:40 --> 00:36:41

It will not come.

00:36:42 --> 00:36:44

No problem Leave on the side quote me

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

that verse from the Quran which says that

00:36:46 --> 00:36:49

Masih Mahmood will come in the later days

00:36:49 --> 00:36:51

quote me that verse first number one and

00:36:51 --> 00:36:54

number after that When it comes to ahadith

00:36:54 --> 00:36:57

we can discuss you invited us to Quran

00:36:57 --> 00:37:00

I want that one word just one word

00:37:00 --> 00:37:03

from the Quran which says that Masih Mahmood

00:37:03 --> 00:37:04

will come in the later day.

00:37:04 --> 00:37:06

This was the claim of your prophet.

00:37:06 --> 00:37:11

Show me that was according to the Quran

00:37:11 --> 00:37:16

surat al-hud verse 18 that The witness

00:37:16 --> 00:37:18

that is coming is from the ummah of

00:37:18 --> 00:37:19

Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam.

00:37:19 --> 00:37:21

He's not from the ummah of anab musa

00:37:21 --> 00:37:26

alayhi salam Sorry number two number two and

00:37:26 --> 00:37:29

Maybe he's a Islam which the Muslims are

00:37:29 --> 00:37:31

waiting for as I may as I mentioned

00:37:31 --> 00:37:33

according to the Quran He is only a

00:37:33 --> 00:37:34

rasool.

00:37:34 --> 00:37:38

He labani israel and This statement was made

00:37:38 --> 00:37:41

to his mother even before his death So

00:37:41 --> 00:37:43

if he was supposed to come back in

00:37:43 --> 00:37:45

the latter days that will also have been

00:37:45 --> 00:37:48

said Now for anybody to reject that verse

00:37:48 --> 00:37:51

of the Quran Which was and no, please

00:37:51 --> 00:37:53

let me make my point and now run

00:37:53 --> 00:37:55

around and say that that another is a

00:37:55 --> 00:37:57

home The Quran says that he's only a

00:37:57 --> 00:37:58

rasool to the bahamut.

00:37:58 --> 00:38:02

Israel will come back with the Quran hasn't

00:38:02 --> 00:38:06

said that is false Now when we call

00:38:06 --> 00:38:08

you to the Quran when we call you

00:38:08 --> 00:38:10

to the Quran We call you to the

00:38:10 --> 00:38:13

Quran because the Quran is the first point

00:38:13 --> 00:38:14

of call in Islam.

00:38:15 --> 00:38:22

Yes now The Quran says that as I

00:38:22 --> 00:38:25

mentioned in surah al-hud and maybe I

00:38:25 --> 00:38:30

should read it Allah almighty says Allah almighty

00:38:30 --> 00:38:35

says it was it That is coming and

00:38:35 --> 00:38:36

let me let me just read it.

00:38:36 --> 00:38:37

I'm a man.

00:38:37 --> 00:38:39

Can I have a unit in the rugby?

00:38:41 --> 00:38:42

Which of its first number?

00:38:43 --> 00:38:46

There's 18 that will be the 17 Amen.

00:38:47 --> 00:38:48

Can I have a unit in the rugby?

00:38:50 --> 00:38:52

Why I flew who saw he don't mean

00:38:52 --> 00:38:52

who?

00:38:54 --> 00:38:56

Have a man can I have a unit

00:38:56 --> 00:38:57

in the rugby?

00:38:57 --> 00:38:59

Why I flew who saw he don't mean

00:38:59 --> 00:39:03

who this side that is coming is from

00:39:03 --> 00:39:05

the ummah of muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam.

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07

He is not from the ummah of the

00:39:07 --> 00:39:12

bahamut israel and This sahih we believe that

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15

is the messiah who is promised by the

00:39:15 --> 00:39:19

prophet muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam to come So

00:39:19 --> 00:39:21

if you want a verse from the Quran

00:39:21 --> 00:39:24

which proves that the messiah will come from

00:39:24 --> 00:39:26

the ummah of muhammad This is the verse

00:39:26 --> 00:39:28

i have just given you Wait, wait brother

00:39:28 --> 00:39:30

Mtaaz Why are we discussing this topic Now

00:39:30 --> 00:39:34

the second point is that Wait a minute

00:39:34 --> 00:39:38

When we agreed that we are not going

00:39:38 --> 00:39:40

to fall for any of the digressions why

00:39:40 --> 00:39:41

are we discussing this topic?

00:39:42 --> 00:39:43

That's because I told you not to do

00:39:43 --> 00:39:47

it and you went into it 40 minutes

00:39:47 --> 00:39:48

unnecessarily.

00:39:48 --> 00:39:49

No, he went on that.

00:39:49 --> 00:39:52

He thought that he has got some straws

00:39:52 --> 00:39:53

to catch.

00:39:53 --> 00:39:55

But when he sees that he's been exposed.

00:39:56 --> 00:39:56

Okay.

00:39:57 --> 00:39:57

Okay.

00:39:58 --> 00:39:58

Imam Sahib.

00:39:58 --> 00:39:59

Imam Sahib.

00:40:00 --> 00:40:01

I'm going to ask you a question now.

00:40:02 --> 00:40:03

Very quickly we're going to deal with this

00:40:03 --> 00:40:04

point and we're going to move on.

00:40:04 --> 00:40:04

Okay.

00:40:04 --> 00:40:05

Imam Sahib.

00:40:06 --> 00:40:08

If I show you a reference from Mirza

00:40:08 --> 00:40:12

Ghulam Ahmad Qadhi and his own son that

00:40:12 --> 00:40:15

his own father, before he died he had

00:40:15 --> 00:40:18

diarrhea next to his bed, he relieved himself

00:40:18 --> 00:40:21

and then he fell on his bed and

00:40:21 --> 00:40:21

died.

00:40:22 --> 00:40:22

Then what?

00:40:25 --> 00:40:29

First of all, I'm not in a position

00:40:29 --> 00:40:31

to confirm what you are saying.

00:40:31 --> 00:40:35

But the point is that wait, wait, wait.

00:40:35 --> 00:40:38

If I also show you that the Prophet

00:40:38 --> 00:40:42

Muhammad before his death was sick on his

00:40:42 --> 00:40:42

bed.

00:40:42 --> 00:40:43

Then what?

00:40:45 --> 00:40:45

Yes.

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

Take out the reference.

00:40:48 --> 00:40:50

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadhi's son's reference.

00:40:51 --> 00:40:51

Okay.

00:40:52 --> 00:40:53

If I show you first of all, you

00:40:53 --> 00:40:55

keep bringing the Prophet to save your life.

00:40:56 --> 00:40:57

So let me explain now.

00:40:57 --> 00:40:58

Where's the difference?

00:40:58 --> 00:41:03

Your Prophet, so called, yeah, this was his

00:41:03 --> 00:41:03

condition.

00:41:03 --> 00:41:05

Now that you brought this upon yourself.

00:41:05 --> 00:41:06

I didn't want to do this.

00:41:06 --> 00:41:07

But you're the one who did this to

00:41:07 --> 00:41:08

yourself.

00:41:08 --> 00:41:10

So I'm going to now teach you a

00:41:10 --> 00:41:10

lesson.

00:41:10 --> 00:41:10

Okay.

00:41:11 --> 00:41:12

This is your Masih Mahud.

00:41:13 --> 00:41:14

Okay.

00:41:14 --> 00:41:16

This is your Masih Mahud.

00:41:16 --> 00:41:17

Your promised Messiah.

00:41:17 --> 00:41:17

Yes.

00:41:18 --> 00:41:21

You say that he was the return of

00:41:21 --> 00:41:22

Jesus Christ.

00:41:22 --> 00:41:23

Yeah.

00:41:23 --> 00:41:23

Okay.

00:41:24 --> 00:41:26

This is what his condition was.

00:41:26 --> 00:41:27

I'm going to read references.

00:41:28 --> 00:41:29

You know Ruhani Khazain?

00:41:30 --> 00:41:31

Ruhani Khazain?

00:41:32 --> 00:41:33

Yes or no?

00:41:33 --> 00:41:34

Imam Sahib, Ruhani Khazain.

00:41:34 --> 00:41:35

Do you know?

00:41:36 --> 00:41:37

Yes, I know Ruhani Khazain.

00:41:37 --> 00:41:38

Okay.

00:41:39 --> 00:41:40

Ruhani Khazain.

00:41:40 --> 00:41:41

Wait, wait, wait.

00:41:41 --> 00:41:42

Imam Sahib.

00:41:43 --> 00:41:43

Imam Sahib.

00:41:44 --> 00:41:44

Ruhani Khazain.

00:41:45 --> 00:41:46

Imam Sahib.

00:41:47 --> 00:41:48

Imam Sahib.

00:41:49 --> 00:41:50

Okay, I'm done.

00:41:50 --> 00:41:50

Carry on.

00:41:51 --> 00:41:51

Carry on.

00:41:52 --> 00:41:56

Ruhani Khazain, chapter 19, page 435.

00:41:57 --> 00:42:00

Mirza Sahib writes, I have two chronic diseases.

00:42:01 --> 00:42:03

One in the upper part of my body,

00:42:04 --> 00:42:06

which is headache and headache.

00:42:07 --> 00:42:12

head and blood flow, hands, legs, and feet

00:42:12 --> 00:42:12

become numb.

00:42:12 --> 00:42:16

The pulse becomes low and in the lower

00:42:16 --> 00:42:18

part of the second body, I have low

00:42:18 --> 00:42:18

urine.

00:42:19 --> 00:42:21

I have constipation.

00:42:21 --> 00:42:22

This is a common condition.

00:42:22 --> 00:42:23

Both of these diseases have been around for

00:42:23 --> 00:42:24

20 years.

00:42:24 --> 00:42:28

Mirza Sahib is writing that I have two

00:42:28 --> 00:42:29

diseases.

00:42:30 --> 00:42:32

One on the top of the body and

00:42:32 --> 00:42:34

one on the lower part of the body.

00:42:34 --> 00:42:39

The reference is Ruhani Ghazain, Volume 19, page

00:42:39 --> 00:42:40

435.

00:42:40 --> 00:42:43

He said the top of the body, the

00:42:43 --> 00:42:47

diseases, headaches, in my head I get headaches,

00:42:48 --> 00:42:51

okay, and because of that I become very

00:42:51 --> 00:42:54

cold and my, what do you call it,

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

this...

00:42:56 --> 00:43:05

I think Adnan

00:43:05 --> 00:43:07

has...

00:43:07 --> 00:43:08

So before Adnan...

00:43:08 --> 00:43:15

Just a few seconds.

00:43:16 --> 00:43:18

First of all, I wanted you to add

00:43:18 --> 00:43:20

Raziullah because he is speaking Urdu.

00:43:21 --> 00:43:24

Raziullah is also an Urdu speaker so that

00:43:24 --> 00:43:25

he can confirm what he is saying.

00:43:26 --> 00:43:28

Are you saying you don't trust the translation

00:43:28 --> 00:43:30

Adnan gave you?

00:43:30 --> 00:43:30

Huh?

00:43:31 --> 00:43:32

Are you saying you do not trust the

00:43:32 --> 00:43:35

translation that Adnan gave you?

00:43:35 --> 00:43:37

I'm not saying that but...

00:43:37 --> 00:43:39

You don't need Raziullah, they can speak Urdu.

00:43:40 --> 00:43:42

You don't have to verify what he is

00:43:42 --> 00:43:42

saying.

00:43:42 --> 00:43:43

Can I finish?

00:43:43 --> 00:43:44

That's what I said, do not trust him.

00:43:45 --> 00:43:48

I don't trust him because I don't have

00:43:48 --> 00:43:49

anything to verify.

00:43:49 --> 00:43:50

That's fine, no problem.

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

The other people will correct him if he

00:43:52 --> 00:43:52

is wrong.

00:43:53 --> 00:43:55

That's why I wanted you to add Raziullah.

00:43:56 --> 00:43:59

Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, do you

00:43:59 --> 00:44:03

think I have an audacity to quote a

00:44:03 --> 00:44:06

page number and a volume number knowing well

00:44:06 --> 00:44:10

thousands of people are watching, mostly Ahmadis are

00:44:10 --> 00:44:12

watching, and I'm going to lie about a

00:44:12 --> 00:44:13

reference?

00:44:13 --> 00:44:14

No, I've got the reference in front of

00:44:14 --> 00:44:16

me right now, volume 19.

00:44:16 --> 00:44:20

There have been a lot of instances where

00:44:20 --> 00:44:21

there have been a lot...

00:44:21 --> 00:44:25

Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, Imam Sahib, volume 19,

00:44:26 --> 00:44:29

page 435, Ruhani Khazain.

00:44:29 --> 00:44:33

He says I have an upper body disease

00:44:33 --> 00:44:34

and I have a lower body disease.

00:44:34 --> 00:44:37

Upper body is headaches, severe headaches, lower body

00:44:37 --> 00:44:44

is extreme bouts of urination, I get too

00:44:44 --> 00:44:48

much urine, and I am mostly suffering from

00:44:48 --> 00:44:52

diarrhea, and I have had these problems for

00:44:52 --> 00:44:57

nearly 20 years, Naseem-e-Dawood, Ruhani Khazain,

00:44:58 --> 00:45:00

Volume 19, page 435.

00:45:01 --> 00:45:05

Then he goes on to say, in Ruhani

00:45:05 --> 00:45:13

Khazain, Volume 17, page 470-471, I

00:45:13 --> 00:45:21

am a person who is permanently struck by

00:45:21 --> 00:45:22

disease.

00:45:22 --> 00:45:27

I am translating these words very responsibly.

00:45:29 --> 00:45:33

I am permanently struck by disease.

00:45:43 --> 00:45:47

I have headaches, and I have sleeplessness.

00:45:51 --> 00:45:52

I have diabetes.

00:45:56 --> 00:46:00

Sometimes, 100, 100 times I have to go

00:46:00 --> 00:46:01

and urinate.

00:46:06 --> 00:46:13

So, I have too much urination, and that

00:46:13 --> 00:46:14

makes me weak.

00:46:15 --> 00:46:20

Then, next reference, Ruhani Khazain, Volume 18, page

00:46:20 --> 00:46:26

613, I

00:46:26 --> 00:46:33

am diabetic, severely diabetic.

00:46:33 --> 00:46:36

Sometimes, I have to go to the toilet

00:46:36 --> 00:46:38

to urinate a hundred times.

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

My question is, when was he praying his

00:46:40 --> 00:46:40

Salah?

00:46:41 --> 00:46:43

Okay, if he's going a hundred times to

00:46:43 --> 00:46:47

the toilet, when is he praying his Salah?

00:46:48 --> 00:46:55

Okay, okay, okay, okay, wait, wait, before, yeah,

00:46:55 --> 00:46:58

yeah, yeah, yeah, we will give you, we

00:46:58 --> 00:46:59

will give you, wait, wait, wait, wait, let

00:46:59 --> 00:47:06

me finish, let me finish, this guy, I

00:47:06 --> 00:47:09

am finishing, I am finishing.

00:47:09 --> 00:47:12

You bring the Prophet of Islam in to

00:47:12 --> 00:47:15

save your liar and your disease-stricken Messiah,

00:47:16 --> 00:47:16

okay?

00:47:16 --> 00:47:18

The problem here is, there is a problem,

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

why am I mentioning these things?

00:47:20 --> 00:47:23

And the fact that he died upon diarrhea,

00:47:24 --> 00:47:26

the last act of his life was diarrhea,

00:47:27 --> 00:47:27

okay?

00:47:27 --> 00:47:29

This is not a big deal, this doesn't

00:47:29 --> 00:47:30

prove him to be a liar necessarily.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:32

Get my point, I am not trying to

00:47:32 --> 00:47:35

say that Mirza was a liar because he

00:47:35 --> 00:47:38

ended his life with the diarrhea, no, that's

00:47:38 --> 00:47:39

not my claim, my claim is...

00:47:39 --> 00:47:41

So, that is why, that is why you

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

shouldn't have brought that point up at all.

00:47:44 --> 00:47:47

Brother, brother, brother, please let me finish, my

00:47:47 --> 00:47:50

problem is that Mirza claimed to be Masih

00:47:50 --> 00:47:58

Marood, the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ, the man

00:47:58 --> 00:48:02

who would heal by a touch, the only

00:48:02 --> 00:48:06

way we know Jesus in the Quran, how

00:48:06 --> 00:48:07

do we know Jesus in the Quran?

00:48:08 --> 00:48:11

What was his greatest virtue?

00:48:12 --> 00:48:15

Jesus would touch people and he would heal

00:48:15 --> 00:48:19

people, he would heal lepers, he made birds

00:48:19 --> 00:48:21

with his hands and he put them in

00:48:21 --> 00:48:23

the air, Allah had given him powers to

00:48:23 --> 00:48:27

heal people, try to get my point, and

00:48:27 --> 00:48:31

Allah is so amazing, Allahu Akbar, Allah is

00:48:31 --> 00:48:35

so great that this liar was self-confessingly

00:48:35 --> 00:48:38

telling us who claimed to be the promised

00:48:38 --> 00:48:43

Messiah, Isa Alayhi Salaam, Jesus that I am

00:48:43 --> 00:48:47

disease-stricken for 20 years, I have to

00:48:47 --> 00:48:49

go to the toilet a hundred times a

00:48:49 --> 00:48:53

day, I am so severely diabetic and I

00:48:53 --> 00:48:56

have so many headaches that I don't have

00:48:56 --> 00:48:59

a normal life, I'm weak, so what claim

00:48:59 --> 00:48:59

am I making?

00:49:00 --> 00:49:03

Here you have a promised Messiah who is

00:49:03 --> 00:49:06

supposed to heal people by touching them, he

00:49:06 --> 00:49:09

himself is disease-stricken, so don't take it

00:49:09 --> 00:49:11

to the Prophet, don't take it to Moses,

00:49:11 --> 00:49:15

don't take it to Abraham, don't because Abraham,

00:49:16 --> 00:49:21

Moses, and Muhammad Alayhi Salaam were not messiahs,

00:49:22 --> 00:49:24

they were not the ones who touch people

00:49:24 --> 00:49:27

and healed necessarily, although they have miracles, wait,

00:49:28 --> 00:49:30

Jesus was special, Jesus was special in this,

00:49:31 --> 00:49:33

he was special, he would touch people and

00:49:33 --> 00:49:37

heal them, Mirza was disease-stricken for the

00:49:37 --> 00:49:38

best part of his life.

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