Abu Taymiyyah – The Chaotic Dawah Scene & Time in Madinah
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Kali,
Muhammad and Abdul Rahul, I'm a bad today at Al Bayan, the voice
of Allah Jamara, we have a very esteemed guest, someone who has no
need of any introduction. Inshallah, our beautiful brother
and FADH, Abu Taymiyah, hafida Holla, now today, sarma Shaykh Ali
Sheik. Today is actually the first
right
here.
Every
time I see him, you know
shalakalek. I hope he's from. One of those.
When you see you remember Allah. He was one of the first reasons
why I actually started doing Darwin here after I graduated.
Three days later. He's the one who pulled me into the Masjid. This is
the first Masjid that I Masjid upstairs in balmo. Yeah. Is the
first Masjid that I started doing my Darwin after I graduated. Yeah,
I actually got my walima done here.
I came here, by the way, as well. Two years ago I came in. It's not
the first time. Obviously, we
got a bunch of questions. We don't we're short on time. But today, we
want to get a few things out of the way. First things first.
Sheik, you know the importance of seeking knowledge under people who
you know. The most important thing, though, is, what is your
name? Sheik
Abu Tamia, what's what's your actual name? My name is actually
Muhammad. Muhammad, Muhammad, Abu Tamia, Muhammad Abu Taymiyyah,
Muhammad Al jalani Al Alhamdulillah,
masha Allah. I was not going to say, but they say it was, by the
way. MashaAllah, first ones out of the way. Now, Sheik, you studied
both in Yemen, in them badge and you studied in Saudi just quickly.
Which one do you
prefer spending time in Medina, where the sweetest days of my
life, I don't think it can be compared to anything you're in.
The Prophet sallallahu is Masjid every other day you can go there.
Yemen. Honesty was a pleasure, right? It was a wonderful
experience
in seeking knowledge. Alhamdulillah, I benefited from
the mashaya over there. But I would have to say that, you know,
being around the Prophet saws messages and also the Haram al me
was the highlight of my studies career, if you want to call it
that, yeah, mashallah during your study, if you had to look back
now, the pleasure of hindsight, what's a mistake that you might
have done that you look back now and you said, If only I had done
this, I know we don't open the door of low and what ifs, but just
so we learn from our mistakes, and that you could help someone else
learn from their mistakes. What's something that you could say that
this is something that I would change to not make that mistake,
because that was something that I fell into because of maybe now you
know you've moved on. You're listening more to
those of experience, right? Those of experience? I remember when I
came back to give dawah some of the elders, they would tell me
certain things to look out for. And sometimes we as youngsters
think that we know better. It reminds me of a statement, or, in
fact, a line of poetry in the regala.
Now.
No, I'm in the original thinking of that. I've been quoting that a
lot in the Baraha doing a show he tarafi Say, we
see that only youngsters are taking control of the situation
without really consulting the elders. Elders, you'll always find
that there's a flaw, there's a deficiency, and that which they're
trying to accomplish. So I really wish I listened to some of the
elders, a lotiani, especially at the beginning stages of my Dawa.
But you live and you learn like I see some of the students right now
extremely passionate. Those who are still in Medina, they tend to
be extremely opinionated. He should do it like this, and he
shouldn't do it like that. Habibi, you have no idea, right? You have
no idea when you're
you know, in the midst of everything that is taking place,
you know, sometimes the pros and the cons that you need to take
into consideration. And masala, another little looking at how
things may eventually turn up. It takes a lot of thought, a lot of
consultation. Yani, there are brothers, duayat, experienced
individuals, that are looking at this collectively while you're
sitting in Al Medina right, completely out of touch with the
situation at hand, and you're commenting right. Subhanallah,
I've seen over time, a lot of brothers, when they come back,
just being able to give a reminder after the Salah, right, becomes
tough for them, and that's when they begin to realize, right, how
difficult is to give. Dawah, well, I just to give a reminder. You
know, the stage fright, and it's not an easy thing, right, even
that requires quite a bit of practice and training. And that's
when they realize how difficult that was, and you see them
subsequently becoming so much more humble, right? Take it easy.
Brothers, right? Who are still studying. You're going to see,
Inshallah, to Allah, how difficult there is at times to make certain
decisions. You're not just dealing with students of knowledge
anymore. You're dealing with people of different persuasions,
you know, leanings, backgrounds, walks of life. You've got the
elderly, you've got the youngsters, you've got the women
in the community, you got all these kind of people that you have
to deal with, and sometimes you have to make a decision for what
is best for everyone, taking into consideration legal maxims, right?
Olam Stan, so
this is why my brothers and my sisters. Anaday Man, I always say
to students of knowledge, it's important before we go back, that
you have a mentor,
someone that you can refer back to, before you end up making rash,
harsh decisions.
Right? I myself Wallahi, and I'm not saying this because I'm
sitting here in this Masjid Mullah ILA, and he's not here anyway. So
it makes it even more easier, two people that I benefited from so
much by just looking at their dealings with the people.
Number one, shabu sama.
You guys heard of shakhtu sama. Debbie has come here multiple
times, the American Shaykh. I used to be Imam Greenlane masjid, and
then leaves. And then he comes here every now and again,
American, but he spent a lot of time here in the UK and left. At
times I would visit him, or he would invite me
to his Masjid right, even though he has like, maybe he's older than
us, he's older than us by over 20 years, maybe even 30 years. He
graduated from the University of Medina in 1993
right? 1993
just the people skills, the way he deals with them. Sometimes a harsh
person, or sometimes there's that individual who's tiring the living
daylight out of you,
right? You can't just expect to barge through a community and
expect them to change over 24 hours. The Eiffel Tower, my
brothers and my sister wasn't built. 24 hours takes time. So
that's a fen in within itself. Wallahi, it is a science in within
itself. It's not something that you will find in books all the
time. People skills, how to deal with them. And likewise, second
brother, Sheik Mohammed Ali,
just watching the way he'll deal with the mud in the way he'll deal
with other pillars of the community, right? He may be more
knowledgeable than everyone, but
sometimes you have to hear the old man out,
huh? You have to show him a level of respect that is maybe different
to your other engagements and your dealings.
Imam tulali, you know what he says, my brothers and sisters. Adi
no Kull, kuloholok,
the whole religion is what etickets and manners from inside
the Alec philochza, Alec Vidin, whoever surpasses you when it
comes to etiquettes and manners, he will surpass you in
in the religion.
Mm.
It's something that's probably touches on that not just Medina
students, but I reckon the only students that are in the UK
talking about Australian issues, Australian students talking about
UK issues, or Americans and about UK and you have no clue about
what's the actual folder that's happening something I went to
America, right? And Wallahi blew me away. Of how big the places
like each state is like a country, like when we want to travel from
the UK to France, it's maybe like an hour flight to get from one
state to another. You're looking at maybe two hours, sometimes
three hours, depending where you're flying from. And sometimes
you just have that one Islamic personality there. He may have
mistakes and whatever have you, which is, of course, a problem,
but you have to take into consideration he's like the only
source of light, if not him, then, and Yani, if you take this guy out
of the equation, Habibi, you're looking at ilhad. You're looking
at people becoming liberals and whatever else it might be, right?
So I began to see things that I would have probably not seen if I
was still in the UK, UK, mashallah, a lot of places are Dar
Al hijra, habibi. And you go to Birmingham, you find like 10
masajid in the same area, Coventry road, right? Everything is there,
right? So you know when you travel fasir of a lot, right? FanDuel go
and travel the Earth. Wallahi will see things that is completely
outside of the bubble. And then you look at Twitter as well. X,
they're in a bubble. Man, they're in a bubble. Honestly, they have
no idea. It's so easy to be opinionated about what is
happening here and there, and you have no idea what that person is
going through when making those decisions, as you mentioned,
right? In fact, what you mentioned SHA Farhan, by the way, I read
that my Shaq Han Allah is one of my very good friends, and I was
very touched in how he treated us when we came here. You know, he's
the Sheikha, well, one of the Mashiach here, and he's running
around serving everyone, may Allah bless him. And it's what you just
basically mentioned is very similar to what Ibn Abu din al
Hanafi, al karafi, al Maliki Ibn ay Muhammad, and many of the
contemporary scholars have mentioned, with regards to knowing
the circumstance and the environment that you're going to
be commenting on, right? I remember Subhanallah Shah
mentioned something very interesting, right? And I've got
it as well. He was talking about how you have someone, or a sheik
on air who's answering people's questions. An individual comes
from America asks this question, and the sheik, who lives in the
Khalid, ends up giving an answer, not taking into consideration that
this individual is around Mala, you know, mulch, Don atheists, non
Muslims, and whatever have you. He's in the lands of the kuffar,
he may end up giving him an answer, right? That is completely
out of touch with reality over there that they're facing. And you
know that I'm not saying that we're disconnecting from the
scholars of the Middle East, not at all right. Sometimes, in fact,
the sheik in the Middle East may give something or give a
perspective that you're not aware of, and you can benefit from that.
But sometimes you find that the scholar of that locality has a
better conceptualization to the ins and outs, the intricacies of
that situation, and he may well be in a better position to be
answering a question Allah, even now, as I'm doing my master,
sometimes I speak to some of my Messiah who teach me Noah's modern
day related issues. And you know, they say to me,
that's an can't give you. You guys are in a completely different
world. Wallahi, this is real, right? You have your own scholars.
Go and ask them,
that's the kind of answers they give us. Subhan, a Hamilton, net
cool, whoever gives a fatwa solely based on what's inside of the
books, without taking into consideration the await, the ADAT,
the Asmaa, the amkinah, you know, the place, the time, also their
cultural practices and their traditions and how they live their
lives. This person, he has indeed gone astray, and he's misled
others as well. And he compares him to a doctor, right, who just
basically prescribes everything based off what is found in medical
books he can end up killing right? It's extremely, extremely
important. It's good that you mentioned that and brought it up.
And even now I'm here in Australia, and people are asking
me questions. How many a time I think you witnessed, as I would
say, Go and ask your if someone asked me that question in the UK,
I know what I'm going to tell them, but here, you know, there
are intricacies. I've only been here for a couple of days. Is not
right for me to come into Australia and start giving up a
tower, yeah, right, imposing upon the people when it completely goes
against what the Messiah of this locality have probably issued in
terms of verdicts, right? I remember when we sat with the
sheikhad alashem just recently gave us the sulemanto na yan, and
he said the exact same thing. He's like, you're not in Medina, you're
in Australia, you're in Sydney. Don't think that you're in Medina.
I think this is something that a lot of people don't understand,
but there's a lot of wisdom that has to be involved in this stuff.
But Sheik, yeah, any something that I have realized specifically
with you knowing you for like, probably close to like.
Eight, nine years now. Lahore, Adam, yeah, when you came to
Medina, something was very unique. It's probably the only time, the
first time and the last time it's happened, yeah, I remember, I was
in the Arabic Institute, and the brothers around me, they were
like, abutami is coming today. I'm like, Who that? Who's this guy?
And then I call you don't know who this is. I'm like, and then they
showed me a video, and I think that was the time you were doing
some stuff in the UK. And subhanAllah, you were known when
you entered the university, right? And subhanAllah, from that day,
subhanAllah, they were the first ones to introduce me to you. And
then the another side was like, Oh, watch out for Abu Tamia,
right? It started SubhanAllah. They dot, yeah. And I genuinely
think that you have been oppressed, yeah? I mean, I
genuinely think that there's been an element of volume that has been
done upon you. And I personally, my assessment of it, and Allah
subhanahu wa is best what's in the heart, but the mantra, the
beginning point of it, is hasad is envy, and we ask Allah to add it
to protect you from all evil. Ya rab Sheik, you have a bunch of
haters. You have like, haters, bro, like, but next level, yeah.
How do you deal with the haters?
So if you want to talk about what was happening in Medina, I
categorize the people into three, right? Well, I genuinely I
categorize the people into three. You have those who might have been
a lot more senior than myself in Magister doing their masters or
even their PhDs. They would come to me and say they would show
appreciation and thanks to the work that we were involved in.
Right at the end of the day, when you think about it, right, the one
my brothers and my sisters who
really cares about Islam prospering like wherever the Dawah
or the ILM comes from, Yani, he's going to be happy and satisfied
about it, right? It doesn't always have to come from his tongue. In
fact, Ibn Al ATA Ali mentioned is from the signs of sincerity,
whether he comes from Shaykh or Han or it comes from Shaykh Ihsan,
or whoever else it might be. He's happy that it's coming from
somewhere. You don't always have to be the first person that utters
it. Does that make sense? So I would actually feel this from some
of the seniors and perhaps my brothers and sisters. This shows
the huh shahalit Man Allah. That's a
special gift. Been
crying out for the last four days. I want to
see you all Shahada. For those
who don't know him, he's actually,
you know, doing his masters. I believe he spent quite a bit of
time in Kuwait. You know, SHA Farhan Shahad are from amongst the
Masha that the people can benefit from, inshallah. So anyways, you
had people like that, so you can, okay, that's the first category,
the older ones that were, like, pretty thankful to, yeah, right.
And subhanAllah, like, they're about to graduate with PhDs and
masters, and they show and it really touched me. It showed me
that Elim is actually really affecting their limbs. You see
what I'm saying, right? And then you had those on the completely
different side of the spectrum, right, who disagree with me, and
their reasonings are substantiated with
because of X, Y and Z. You see what I'm saying, right? You've
basically gone against this. You've done this. And I really
appreciated that they would show me open enmity. Wallahi, I love
them for zaikavala, like, I mean across the spectrum, you've done
X, Y and Z, and because of you, I hate you. I give them salams, and
they're not going to return the salams. I appreciated that. No,
but like, they were in your face. What they are, what they are,
yeah, is you, you basically get what you see Annie, right? And I
appreciate that. Why? He says, okay, he believes this, right?
He's under the impression not that it's right or anything, because it
was an absolute battle. Why do a boycotting people? But I
appreciate that it's coming from somewhere. Then you had those that
Wallah, I really struggled with, honestly, really, really struggle
with, and I don't think I've ever discussed this with you, right?
Those would come and laugh in my face, act like their friends, and
then behind my back, they're literally bickering, slandering,
right, and ripping me to shreds, like, why would you do that? I've
seen that, right? I personally saw that. I saw Allah, me and him
haven't even discussed, I don't know how, the how, the question
you're going to ask me, right? Well, I didn't even know that you
saw this, or you felt this, but this is what I seen, and I really
struggled with this, like you're laughing in my face, or you're
going to institutions and organizations telling them, Dom
ring, abutaman, whatever have you. But then whenever you run into me,
you talk to me as if we're best friends, right? And I really
struggled with that Wallahi really hurt me, because some of those
brothers were brothers that I really liked and respected. And
then I'm hearing X, Y and Z, I'm just brushing it off, and then he
just keeps repeating, repeating, you know, let's have a
conversation with tallah. Al right. Let's open up the books,
right? Let's open up the books where students of knowledge, I
love discussions, right? And anyways, you know.
That was that. But if you're patient, right? And then later on,
quite a few of them apologized. I'm talking about even those used
to show me open enmity when certain Masha of theirs started
clashing with one another. All of a sudden, I'm walking through the
university campus, and everyone's giving me salams again, and I'm
thinking to myself, I would tell me, why have you changed? When, in
reality, I didn't. It's in fact, they changed, and they realized
their mistake, and they were humble enough to admit so. And
then, of course, you have those online and UK and whatever have
you mainly online.
I just, I make dua for these people.
Sometimes I think to myself, and I don't mean this in a bad way. Are
they mentally challenged with the way they behave online, especially
Yani, really doesn't add up. So I make dua for these individuals
that Allah azza wa jal betters their mental state and and perhaps
gives them insight and betters the understanding of the religion like
I honestly when people
attack me and when they say negative things about myself,
Yani, I honestly try to assess it. I try to be as self critical as I
can,
you know, as much as I can. Yani, as much as possible. Because, you
know, we can't just dismiss every Christian that comes our way as
has said, or as personal. He's got an issue with him. That's why he's
doing that. We should try to assess it, and perhaps may benefit
from our enemies we all want to be from those who the messenger
talked about, right? Omar tawani, lahila Rafa, never does individual
humble in except that ALLAH will raise him and look away No. Claim
says, right, Imma. Claim says, Let us rehulament To help women to
God, right? You will not be able to become a humble individual
until you make it a habit to accept from those that you love
and those that you hate, right? So when the opponents, the
detractors, the haters. You want to call them that. Whenever they
say something, I try to look at it. Does he have a point?
But sometimes I really struggle to see through it. A lot of time is
unverified information, he said, she said, Yeah, clear cut lies,
bad assumptions. A lot of the time it's ichihadi related issues us
attempting now to find the right answer. It's a gray area. It's not
black and white. We're trying to get the right answer, best course
of action, and then they're attacking you for it. Habibi,
what? I'll say this again. Let's sit down. Well, I don't believe
I'm scared of anyone. And the reason why I say this, not because
I'm trying to be arrogant or anything like that, someone else
may have the truth. Someone else may see something that I'm not
seeing, and I'm happy to see that, right? Just convince me. Don't be
running around saying, Oh, I've advised the mutamia. He didn't
accept the advice. Let's boycott him. Sometimes there's a back and
forth, like, how many discussions of me and you had? Do we see eye
to eye to everything? Of course, not. Well, I love you too, man. I
love you. Morning. You love me. But the point is, we had our back
and forths. You may have given advice and I've given advice back,
but they were back and forth. The discussions between students of
knowledge. What sometimes they do is they'll go and they'll tell
people, oh, he's been advised. Halas, happy. That's not
sincerity. Let's have a discussion. Let's open up the
books, you know, let's go back and forth. I love that. I honestly
love that, and every title loves that. And you shouldn't be afraid.
Why? Right? Because we're all trying to find the truth right,
like something that's that's missing in this conversation,
whenever this is mentioned, the benefits and harms that a person
has to make a judgment call on is going to be one assessment on one
way, and you might have a different assessment, but I am not
obliged to follow your assessment of masala rain, the lesser of two
evils. And I think this is where have you had the fatwa. Fatwa is
not binding, let alone an advice that you give. Sometimes you might
come up to me and and give me a piece of advice, and I say to you,
zakalahair, right? Or I might decide to even, like, have my two
pence in the situation, right? But that doesn't necessarily mean I
have to cents. Are you guys $1 Isn't it right? Bucks, right? So,
honey, I don't have to take that. Or I might see that this advice is
completely out of place, but just I accept it from you, but don't
expect me to take it on, to take it on. And you shouldn't give
advice expecting for it to be acted upon. And this is Muhammad
jitenjit den Adhan that questions your sincerity, right? But all I
you know this issue of hassad as Imam Yani, even Tamia Sheik, 17,
I've come across even Ibn Al arabilik, for example, Imam
Abraham said is to love, right? Call it to love. He Alamo come
Allah have knowledge.
May Allah have mercy upon you that and Allah azza wa jal,
either manha Shah Sam min ALA and me Shay and Manal il wa har Rama
Quran has had to who that if Allah blesses someone with knowledge
that maybe his contemporaries and his classmates are deprived from
right, Allah chose not to give it to them. Hasidu Hu they begin to
envy him right, faram, faramo hub, and then they begin to accuse him
of things that he's absolutely free from.
Yeah. Hakim Arabi, he says, either, let me add, you do.
Lahore, you will be
a nurse. Either, let me ajiduman, if they don't find anything that
they can accuse him of, they'll look for things to accuse him of.
Like, sometimes Iman is just, I struggle to see through this.
Honestly, it's like he called the Prophet. Have this engagement with
him. Sometimes he can get them out on X Yeah. And you have a private
reach out, at least the minimum call out, even if they called me
on, honestly, I don't have a problem, but you're calling out
something that you understood in that particular manner, yeah, but
yeah. And even, even in Karl Moon car, if they, if they understand
that, it has to be something that he's completely agreed upon, Yeah,
completely agreed upon. And if there's any, there's often issues.
In halasani, it's not something that can be considered as moon
card by default, right? It reminds me of what the poet mentioned. The
poet says, What can mean? I even call on sahato family. Sakimi, you
see people criticizing condemning certain things, right? But in
reality, Habibi, it's actually true what the guy is saying, but
you've misunderstood it. You've completely misunderstood it,
right? According to your shallow, narrow mind and understanding of
that. But I wish sometimes it could actually be Alimi, but it's
based on your understanding that you're criticizing. Why a lot of
time is just personal, man, a lot of times personal. Sometimes what
happens is, let's just say me and you had the heated argument, which
is bound to happen. The scholars of the past had, you know, heated
arguments. But then, love, after that, you start Yani going off on
the guy and turning and masking it as if it's like a DNA related
issue.
So I think we expanded on that a little bit too. No, no, I feel
like I need to call you down, Chef, so we'll go through some
lighter questions. Yeah, I don't feel like, I don't want to hype
you up too much. You got another lesson after this. Sheik, what's
your favorite sort of the Quran? What a recitation. Favorite verse
of the Quran?
I think when Allah Azza said, wabada Alam, uh, mean, Allah, Imam
yah tesi, born
WABA dalam in Allah, Himalaya, Mia Kono, the
Simon I believe that's the eye, right, like
on your multiyama. That which will become apparent for you is that
which they weren't expecting, and that could be the sins that they
carried out that it took so lightly, and the good deeds that
they may not necessarily have given too much thoughts
when doing it right, ever sincere, but they thought maybe this is
just minor and Talaq don't really tell any good deed you don't know
what's going to get you into an agenda, even if it means meeting
your brother. If it means meeting your brother with a pleasant face.
Your favorite side of the Quran, I think it's between Sheik al
husayri. I think is in a completely different league, but
from those who are currently alive, I think Sheik yasiri really
He's a beast man, serious, especially when him and Sheik
bandal balila are leading on the same night. Oh, that is a comment
for some reason. Well, even Sharia said he's got something to him
when it comes to Fajr. Yeah? Mashallah, favorite, curious. Come
on, really? Yeah, that's my favorite one. Okay, yeah.
What's your take on reading in
maqamat, I think there's a heavy discussion Yani, very intensified
discussion of Augustus.
And I looked into it. And honestly, I think I just leave it
to the scholars, those of expertise, to give their take on
it. Yani, Sheik Ayman, swayed is pretty passionate about this
particular masala. Others argue otherwise. But I think if Allah
azza wa jal has blessed you with a voice, go off of that. Yani,
instead of having a Taq luf
really going out your way or to try and sound like something when
reality, you know, Allah Azza has given you a wonderful voice. Yani,
go off with that. And if it comes naturally one of these Muhammad,
then you're not blamed, yani. But they say, Allah, these makhamat,
they come from musical sounds and whatever have you.
Yeah, favorite Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu, alayhi, wa
sallam Jihye.
I know they put him on the spot. Man Hadith, someone had to do it.
You know what I mean? Just making sure that you khulu Sharia boys
know what's going on. Yeah, I always mention this one, but
khalas, it's already become my favorite Hadith. I tried to find
another favorite Hadith. My favorite hadith is always when the
Muslim salary Islam, you said you don't leave something for the sake
of Allah inakalanta dashedi, you don't leave someone for the sake
of Allah, except Allah will give you that which is better. And out
of being conscious of Allah, having a taqwa, Allah will always
give you that which is better. Favorite moment of the Sira or the
Prophet salallahu, alayhi wa sallam, one moment that just
stands out to you. I
think when the messenger salad, he was some conquered mecca for.
And they were expecting that the messenger, salaried wasallam,
would massacre them for everything that they'd done in the past.
Right? He said to them, antom, to right. Antom, you guys are all
free. You know, Lata three Valley, Kumail, Leo, fear, Allahu, alakum,
so Yusuf, Ali satosam said to the to his brothers, right? Yo, fear
Allahu shirt, favorite companion of the Prophet, sallAllahu, alayhi
wa salam, favorite companion, I
think, subhanAllah, you know, it's bilateral,
even though, just because we need to do equal rights as well, yeah,
bila RadiAllahu, Allah, and with everything that he went through,
how long to his religion, right? Ahadun, Ahad they put that huge
rock on his chest, and then, even then, he didn't budge. Right? When
I hear those stories and then compare it to awaka, we're not
going through anything, and still we are compromising our deen,
that's honestly Annie stands up the call for better first war.
Yeah, of course, I shout at
the Allah on her. I think she's honestly top of the top because
she narrated more Hadith than men, right? She surpassed a lot of
them, even though she was a woman, what does that show you, that
even though you have all these responsibilities and your
obligations at home and everything, right,
it can still become a huge benefit for the Ummah my sisters, behind
every successful man is a wonderful, great woman, right? And
she supported the messenger and likewise, the other female. Why?
You know, the other wives in the messenger of someday supported
him, but she supported him in a way that we are still benefiting
from. Up until this very day, I don't think there's a greater
support than that, aiding and assisting your husband in
conveying that message, right? Preaching. That's exactly what she
done. She carried the message, the divine revelation you know of
Allah subhanahu wa He sent down upon the messenger salary Salem,
the Sunnah that he preached,
favorite scholar of the past, after the companions of the Allahu
Akbar, after the Annis put after the tabernas. Come on, because
it's like unfair. So remember, Hanif is from the Tabia. And then
you have after that, after, I'm saying after the Taber inhales
only from then till now, from then to someone, it's hard for me,
like, you've got the 40 moms, yeah. Like we can maybe put them I
can put them aside. Put them aside, right? Nothing's generally
it's hard to kind of compare them after that, I would say Nate Mia,
Lucky mama Debbie said about him, whatever. You gonna feel mad if
and
also the positions of the immatur. He has in depth understanding when
it comes to knowing the positions of Sahaba, the taberin, and then
also the positions of the four great Imam Zafir that he highly
appreciated and defended so intensity I was expecting, I was
expecting I was expecting you to say that, do you think he is
misread and misunderstood? Yeah, I think sometimes people
misunderstand him and misread him. Like, no, I'm not talking about
the other side. I'm talking about within, yeah, without. Like, what
do you mean
within? Like, amongst the amongst like,
yeah, I honestly believe they should turn to him for a lot of
their differences and disagreements people Yani, they
base their opinions on what they've heard of what Ibn taymiy
Rahim Allah has said. But they haven't read mishma al Fatah, and
they haven't read his book properly. They maybe stopped that
was at the Yeah, that's the case with a lot. Yeah. And I've always
said to students of knowledge, like after you graduate Habibi,
you have to go beyond the mahasilin. You have to go beyond
the
contemporary scholars, as much as we benefit from them and we highly
appreciate them. Your research needs to go beyond that, well
beyond that. You need to go classical, if that makes sense, a
good place to maybe start when it comes to a lot of the issues and
the disagreements that have caused some so many issues, go back to
New Tamia, right when it comes to issues of Al Hajja, boycotting one
another, debating, and whatever, have you, the Rahman that he had
opponents, yeah, even with his opponents, like Ibn Al qayim would
say, quoting, even it's like saying about imitating what did to
the sorry, the companions of Imitate me, they would say about
him What did to any as habi command, I wish I could treat
Yani, my own friends, with so much goodness the same way, even the
Tamia treated his enemies, like he would treat them with such
goodness, like he wouldn't budge on what he believes to be correct,
but the way he would treat them, even though they would mistreat
him, right, even you know the incident of when one of his aqba
or ADA, they used to give him so much trouble. Im not came, came to
give him some wonderful news that these guys passed away, and he
actually got annoyed at him. He said, Tanaka, right? He wasn't
happy with how I approached the situation and how I came to tell
him. And then he got up. It started in nalilayar.
And ran to his family and told them, today, I'm going to take his
place. So Imran to Allah, despite the views that he had that he
sought to be,
you know, the right view, and whatever, have you, he was very
rahem in the way he dealt with the people, right, with his opponents,
and even those that he disagreed with. I think that's extremely
important. Wallahi read Ibn Taymiyyah. I'm telling you, a lot
of brothers who claim to accept him, they will realize that Ibn
Taymiyyah is somewhere and they are somewhere else, like, I would
say, like
Ibn Taymiyyah, rahamatta Allah, when it comes to a lot of the
positions that you see people boycotting one another for
honey. If you just went to him, a lot of these problems wouldn't be
there. And I'm mentioning him because he's widely accepted by
those who think in this particular way, this particular leaning and
persuasion, like immunity is my go to
guy individual. You know? That's why, whenever I now try to explain
akhida, a lot of these controversial issues, I bring Ibn
taymiyya, and sometimes you have those who don't like Ibn taymiyya
that have completely misunderstood what he's saying and attributed
all types of things to Ibn tayman hamala, Taala that I believe he's
absolutely free from. Like, you don't have to agree with
everything, but at least try to present represent him correctly,
and that should be the case with everyone else's Oh, like,
sometimes there are certain, you know, religious personalities and
figures of the past that we may disagree with, but sometimes we
may attribute to them that which they're free from. I think it's
important to just represent people accurately, and I want people to
understand that. And this is across the board, where you study
and the background that you come from, it at times, affects right
your persuasion and your leaning to whatever it might be, right?
And that's just normal. However, sometimes what happens is we hear
something that we're not familiar with, and we straight away go into
defense mode, instead of maybe trying to understand where that
individual is coming from. And I think this is very, very
important. Well, I remember one time my chef said to me, right,
even though it was, it was, it was because of a different situation.
It was more like fi related, nawazian, modern day fe, you know,
scenarios and whatever have you he said, don't look at the fatwa.
Don't look at a conclusion. Look at how that individual reached
that conclusion. Perhaps it will make you appreciate why people
have these positions right, and the door of discussion is always
open. I've never ever shut the door on anyone that wanted to have
a discussion. Walla have never done that we are to love. I mean,
shalom. Taala, from the cradle to the grave, like Imam Hussain is
already to the grave, and we're open to have these discussions, to
maybe research these issues, right as talabati Let's bring out the
book. Say Adi, but the way that people go about doing things like
they'll jump onto social media and they're arguing with one another,
whatever, have you, I don't see that to be pragmatic. I think at
times it's childish. The way people go at one another on social
media apps such as x, formerly known as Twitter. So Yani, the
door is always open. I've always said this to the brother.
Sometimes people say, Oh, he's been advised and he didn't take
the advice, which advice. What you mean, it's been we've had a
discussion, and you think this, Oh, me throwing my advice at him.
Halasi, has to take it. Habib, even fatwa is not binding. Even
fatwa is giving not binding, let alone someone's back and forth
that you had or an advice that he gave. You. May give me an advice,
and I say, zakalaheb, but Yani, I don't see that advice to be in his
place. I think that's a very, very important point. Anyways, long
story cut short, it's important that we try to understand, Okay,
where did this individual get these ideas from? Right?
Maybe, you know, it was a misunderstanding of how we read
something and to have these pragmatic discussions to behind
closed doors, right? Otherwise, this folder, this chaos online,
honestly, just weakens the Muslims, especially the way it's
conducted most of the time. The ulama of the past, they had
pragmatic, civilized, right, sensible discussions, right? They
would have it properly with amongst themselves, right? Even if
you say Muhammad to Allah, he would say the discussions that you
used to have with Ashara, there was fundamental differences, and
he disagreed with them. But he goes, I was the most eager. In
order to bring about unity, he would sit down trying to explain
to them, right, what he believed the positions of Abu Hassan and
Asherah, him along to Allah was and I know others would disagree,
and Yani, it's a long discussion, but he tried his utmost best in
order to reach some sort of understanding of God's Messiah.
But he was trying, right? How many of us actually tries? Instead, we
come out, this guy's this, this guy's that I don't believe that is
right. Yani, this is not the right way to go about it. So anyways,
uh, and by the way, like Allah in the UK, I sit with people who
disagree with me, and we have these discussions, right? There
are different schools of thought, and they have a lot of respect for
me and across the board, because I'm not the individual who's gonna
start, you know, fighting you or whatever have you like. Well, I
wish you guys could see the situation, or at least
conceptualize it, right? We are in a situation.
Where Allah is ajib is absolutely ajib. The amount of calls that I
get like, sorry, I'm going back here. But the other day, an auntie
calls, oh, my daughter's hanging around with a lesbian, and
whenever I tell her to stay away from the lesbian, she goes, No,
there's nothing wrong with it. You know, this is the kind of stuff
that we're dealing with on the ground, not that I'm saying that
these creed or theology issues are not important. You should have
these discussions. Fine, right? But I think there's every liquid
in religion. No, it's not for every DOM. They can hurry, yeah,
right, to jump onto Twitter and start debating and even
SubhanAllah. When I was teaching akhir not so long ago, I said
right at the beginning. We're not studying akhira, right, in order
to jump online and to start fighting with people start, we're
trying to get closer to Allah, right, learning about that which
is going to strengthen our faith, right? Because the whole world
runs today on theology. Israel is not doing whatever they're doing,
except because of what they believe about the Palestinians,
likewise, China, with our yoga brothers, everything you think
about, right? It runs on, okay? They runs on theology. Even, even
the team, are commenting on, you know, the no source. He says
something very powerful. He says, falamente Kati FA sudden illallah,
who yield hero, Dalit family, glad. You will find someone who
has a corrupt belief, except that it begins to show on his limbs,
right? One has a corrupt belief. He begins to show on his limbs,
he'll start doing things. And we know the halide the Prophet
sallallahu, alayhi wa, there's a, you know, there's a piece of flesh
in salary. If that becomes rectified, everything else becomes
rectified. If that becomes corrupt, everything else becomes
corrupt. That's the heart Imam nur hamalan, mentioned with Hadith. So
while you intended thesis as a ficu, and it's also related, yeah,
without a shadow of a doubt, without like this person didn't
just wake up one day saying, I'm gonna change my orientation. La
Wallahi, he began to believe a certain something that he is no
longer or he was never this kind, this way. We're here today. I was
never this anyway, I thought I was this. Now, I figured out what my
real orientation actually is, simile that now began to profess
at once limbs. Last question, yeah, because we actually like
getting told to get off soon.
A Sheik that has touched your life, your heart, that you would
recommend those who can benefit from their works, if it's been
translated, and what have you, someone who's alive or someone
who, yeah, any personally you've benefited from,
I think I know the answer to this, but I'm not going to say it until
maybe after. I think I would say, Hola, there's a few
Arab just, just, come on, we don't have time to say, give me one.
Cindy, maybe. Did you think I would say that? Sindhi? I look I
met him when I said salam to him, I wouldn't. I wouldn't think you'd
say that. Yeah, I benefited from him immensely when it came to
fiqh, which would maybe perhaps surprise you, even though his
expertise is in akhida habibi. A lot of people don't know, but his
Bachelor's was in Sharia, his master's was in oliq, right? And
by the way, he's from the Jamaat elimala So, and then he done his
PhD in in Medina.
I mean, I don't agree with this whole concept of just because
someone's PhD was in a certain field. He only becomes known for
that. Habibi, to us, as I've studied fiqh with so many
different
I would say Yani.
Big shots. Yani currently in the Hambali Madhab,
Sha alsayman, you know, Shah Saul has seen Khalid, Abu Shaykh,
Samir. I benefit Allah immensely from them. One thing that stood
out for me, when he was teaching us, as he would know the hamilhab,
very, very well, give the positions, while at the same time
he will give the evidences. And that's what we liked about, I
think He's memorized, because the way he was going through the
Hadith, you could see, look, he's using the exact wording, and this
is what he's going through, a haqqah Sindhi, I think, is one of
the most underrated mushai, yeah. So when it comes to thinking you
would say, sorry. I actually would think that you would say because,
like Westman,
I
just thought that would he studied that with him, and I've been going
on about that this whole trip, because I believe it's one of
those books that can really fix the situation about Shabaab, that
speaks about the effects and consequences
of sins. Likewise, man, Sheik, I know these as well. Inshallah, you
know you have to get out of the Saudi thing. Sheik, there's a lot
of brothers and sisters who are seeing that which is happening
outside
Sudan. What have you, right? Kashmir, and there's a lot of
Hamas inside of the heart and they are going off simply emotion,
right? And this is a time where emotions are extremely high. But
what is your advice to when the emotion sometimes leads people to
that which could be categorized as somewhat, somewhat extreme in the
sense of any you.
I think you understand where I'm going with it, right? What's your
advice to people who might just be Yeah, and you focusing on this
deen and practicing this Deen with emotion alone? And I think that's
a problem that you might want to touch on. Well, I my brothers and
my sisters, you know, we have to do things properly, right? As
much, as much as it hurts us, the heart bleeds to see what's
happening to our brothers and sisters in Palestine. It is the
world's biggest open prison. Yani, right? Yani, our hands are tight
in terms of what we can actually do. Our hands are tight, right? So
will I just do the right thing. Do the right thing, take guidance
from
reputable scholars and how to deal with this situation, and
Inshallah, one day, we'll be able to assist them in a lot better
way. You know, right at this moment in time, you know, pay
charity right the avenues that are reliable, the charities are
reliable. Make a lot of dua for them, right? Make a lot of dua for
them. Raise awareness about the situation. So Hans through these
clips online that we've had, you know, 10s of 1000s of people in
braisal Islam, just across Europe. I was reading something the other
day, a 400%
increase in conversions across Europe, right? And to also, really
work on yourself. Work on yourself like the messenger, he said, Al
mutamasi, Kobi, sununi, Lahu, ajru, Shahid. Dawn holds on to my
sun at the end of times when the people have become corrupt, right,
this person will get the reward of a Shaheed right? Also boycott
whatever you can in terms of
those who are funding the Zionists right and those who are massacring
and committing this genocide against our brothers and sisters,
right, and Subhanallah, I hear people saying, Look, I want to be
from the Shuhada, and I feel like Allah has deprived us, and he's
blessed those who are being bombed, those innocent people are
being bombed. What happens tomorrow? Inshallah, if they pass
away, Shala, they will find themselves in a Jannah, be in the
light Allah.
They want to be in that position. The messenger gave you that
opportunity now educate. Work on yourself better your current
circumstance, because the lines are being drawn, brother, right
sides are being chosen. Right the
way things are headed
tomorrow, when push comes to shove and we don't know how to do basic
things, then how we going to really You see what I'm saying.
May Allah protect and preserve you to the misdi result, as WJ and the
rest of those have had me on who are part of putting this together,
Shaykh, for Han, benefit from him. Inshallah, he does classes,
you know. And also, Mr. Sunnah, they have classes. And our
brothers here, they have classes like, you know, I've been telling
the Shabab all the time, any benefits from your local Masha,
don't just come to these,
you know, one off lectures that gives you that buzz, and then your
iman goes sky high. You need to keep your iman afloat. And
mashallah, you know,
our hosts. You know, they're doing a great job in teaching the people
yourselves and the rest of the brothers as well. You know, may
Allah bless everyone that's trying to teach the Muslim ummah. And I
know I've probably forgot a lot of names as well, but you know, these
are some of the names that have come to mind at this moment in
time for a person who graduated from kulichiri, you're not too
bad. You know what I mean? I mean, like from a kulit Hadith going
into the whole debate, you know, student wars of kulit al Hadith
against that. And you know, I mean, I love you for the sake of
Allah, Sheik, may Allah in your day, May Allah protect you from
all evil. I apologize for the short notice and
rushed nature
we have. I'm actually really glad that we came here, because we
didn't really do many of the Yeah, like we are pleasured. I wanted to
do in Melbourne as well, but I wasn't in charge of the schedule,
and I was actually really upset at them for not putting in at least
my good friend Yani Shah Sam has missed it. He was actually my
class, and I was a little bit upset by that. I think he was
pretty angry as well. You know, may Allah, bless you. Sheik, bless
all the viewers. BarakAllahu, salaam alaikum, warahmatullahi,
wabarakatuh.