Abu Taymiyyah – THE BIG DEBATE Madinah Books or Al Arabia Bayna Yadaik Sh Abdulwahid
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The speaker discusses the importance of conversational Arabic learning for a particular type of language, and suggests that learning the language is crucial for a teacher's job. They also mention a book called Nahu that is a reference to the French language. The speaker advises that learning the language is crucial for a teacher's job, but that it's not as good as Egypt or the French language.
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Somebody asks now what the best place to
go and learn Arabic, I'll say them go
to Egypt. Yeah. It's not Madina. Yeah. It's
not Aliamat. Yeah. I'm totally against the Madina
books that we all study. I'm totally against
it. Because what you are in need of
is conversational Arabic. Yeah. You need to understand
what the teacher is saying. Yeah. You need
to understand basics. I I don't necessarily believe
that these Medina books read it to the
top of me. I disagree with them with
teachers books at Medina College. I'm a 100%
against that opinion.
But we can differ and not hate each
other on the line. I agree.
It's not a big show. Well, I'll I
might have to get off this interview I
didn't actually know that. Keep putting it down.
I know. I'm not going in. I've got
Egypt.
They study Yeah. Like, even this is the
type of Arabic that I studied when I
was
in Hadramot. Yeah. A private class that I
was having with this, Syrian teacher. I think
they call it the books. Yeah. I've
got them over there actually. Oh, and he's
got in there. Yeah. I've got the
lattice in there? I've got a plant at
some stage. We have to get through them
to uni pots first, but I've got Arabic
Arabic any other day I'm gonna ask a
question. That they teach in Egypt that I'm
not fond of. If someone
doesn't understand a teacher Yeah. Okay? Like you
are somebody who doesn't understand English Yeah. Is
the first thing you're going to teach him
English grammar?
No.
Doesn't the Medina books really heavily revolve around
that? The Medina books do. Yes. I agree
with you. And just to support your claim,
just to show I'm not biased completely. Right?
I'm gonna agree with you here. There was
one guy that I've mentioned this before. He
was English
brother, convert,
white, blue eyes, all that stuff, 100% like.
He went to, Medina and I remember one
time the teachers asked him to answer the
question, obviously in Arabic. Right? He looks at
him frustrated, he says,
I don't understand that in English. How can
I ask you? I don't understand Arabic basically.
You're asking me something in Arabic and he's
meant to answer and he was frustrated. He
ended up not completing and leaving it. So
you're right. You do need to have a
little a level of Arabic for you guys.
I remember when I attended a class. But
but quick but quick but,
the syllabus as you know isn't just the
grammar books. They've got the guitar bar, they've
got tabi, they've got for example, and then
they've got in the second one. We start
study some basic and some basic hadith and
If you study all of the books alongside
the Medina books Yeah. Then we're going to
be on the same page. Yeah. I remember,
SubhanAllah, when I was in in the in
the just after I studied
conversational Arabic in Hadhramaut.
I was attending the class,
a nahal class,
And that's an explanation of the main one
that they used to teach. Yeah. And it's
translating English as well. I'm not sure. So
we can just show show people the book.
Carry on quickly. Yeah. That one.
Just so you people can benefit. Yeah.
This is the
book.
I know you don't like me doing that,
but maybe you can zoom in at one
point.
Okay. So that's the book and they've actually
translated. It's still got Arabic in it as
well. Arabic and English. Why would you try
to do a Nahu book you wonder?
Because there's people that just like, they like
Nahu, isn't it? I think it helps the
teacher as well. It helps the teacher. Yeah.
Yes, I go in. So I looked around
and I said, you guys are Arabs. Yeah.
And your understanding
is no
different to mine now Yeah. The teacher speaks.
Yeah. Right? And it might be at times
that I understand it better than you. Yeah.
Because I I I I learned,
like, right? Yeah. Yeah.
I think they call it colloquial.
No.
Classical or Yeah. The classical way of, you
know, speaking the Arabic language. Yeah.
Just general commoners who haven't necessarily studied the
rules of speaking Arabic or reading. Yeah. I
said, we're exactly the same. However,
that which we both have is that we
can understand the teacher Yeah. When he speaks.
Yeah. If someone doesn't understand basic conversation Arabic,
he's going to struggle. Yeah.
Right? Because even Arabs, they go and study
Nahal. Yeah. Yeah. They have to study Nahal
a 100%. Yeah. Because the majority of the
Arabs that live today, they don't understand Nahal.
That's right. Yeah. They're just commoners. Yeah. You
see? Yeah. It's like we are in the
English language. We've generally don't know the grammar
of the English language. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
So, I I genuinely would advise somebody to
go to Egypt. Yeah. So this brother, I
was seeing, he came martialized Arabic at some
point. Yeah. As for other brothers, I could
see that,
their their their their speaking wasn't up to
Yeah. Scratch. Their understanding wasn't up to scratch.
And I asked the question, why? I never
actually discussed this with
those who were struggling,
but I could it was it was pretty
clear to me, a system, there wasn't actually
like a proper system there. Yeah.
Even in Medina, there is a system. Yeah.
But it's not as good as Egypt. It's
not as good as Egypt.