Abu Taymiyyah – Heart Touching Discussion Desperate Sinning, Parenting, Marriage, Fitna, Refutations & more.
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My dear brothers
and sisters in Islam,
I would like to welcome you to
our winter conference
2022,
which is called, shirkmas.
And so far, we have had
3 lectures,
and this is going to be the 4th
session that we're going to have today.
What we're going to have now
will be the q and a part of,
of our,
set of lectures today or the panel discussion.
So,
I will be asking,
our sheikh,
some questions.
I will also participate,
and if it is necessary for me to
say anything,
or if I have something to say,
with regards to some of the questions,
and we will be benefiting majority of the
time. We will be benefiting from
Abu, Tamia. I want to also
thank all the brothers and the sisters who
have attended the conference.
And,
we have brothers who came from outside the
city of Manchester.
We have brothers who came from Birmingham. Even
we have brothers who came from as far
as Southampton.
We have brothers who came from Sheffield. We
have brothers who came from other cities as
well.
And so we would like to welcome all
of you.
Please welcome to your Masjid Masjid Al Furqan.
We are honored to host you and to
have you here.
We are also greatly honored to host our.
Sheikh Abdul Al Ojedi has arrived safely here
in the city, and in the Masjid.
We will be benefiting from the Sheikh
tomorrow. And so what we have left tonight
is going to be the,
the panel discussion right now or the q
and a.
And and then after that,
we'll take a short break or we're gonna
have a proper break.
And then after that, we will be coming
back for
and after
is going to complete the book that he
has started going through, which has already been
advertised,
which is.
Okay? The 6 principles. So that is going
to happen as well. So just to begin,
this,
discussion,
with the Sheikh,
and I want to give him couple of
minutes
to touch upon
the theme of our panel discussion
which is,
steadfastness
and the importance of this
topic or this particular theme. So I would
like to give the floor to the sheikh
and give him the opportunity to say something
regarding
the importance of a steadfastness
upon the religion, and then hopefully the q
and a will be starting after that.
Extremely humble.
Right?
I don't know why he keeps doing this
every time I come here, but as you
guys are aware, the sheikh is a lot
more older.
He's a lot more senior. He's a lot
more knowledgeable. We only came about not so
long ago.
He graduated, I think,
as I always mentioned, right, while we were
still being chased by the helicopter in London.
Even you have the hadith of the prophet
when he said, attorney Jibril,
Jibril came to me and instructed me to
give precedence to the elders.
Should be the elders that normally start,
not those who are younger,
or Surah Messenger SallAllahu Alaihi Wasallam, another hadith
when it came to the siwak.
Right? Siwak,
you know, that which you do or which
you use to clean
your mouth, companions, they were sitting around and
they all wanted
to use it after the Messenger and
he said,
older, the older one should go first.
My brothers and my sisters, that which pertains
to being steadfast,
it's not hidden from you all, my brothers
and my sisters, that we are living in
a time and age where holding on to
your religion. It's like holding on to hot
calls.
As the messenger
said
and as time goes on,
you will find it will only get more
and more difficult.
There there's not a time except that the
time that comes after is far far worse,
so what are some of the things that
we could do that are practical,
Right? That will inshallah keep
us all steadfast.
Very very quickly, number 1, brothers and sisters,
the salah.
You probably heard me say it multiple
times,
brothers
and sisters.
I honestly don't care what's happening
in your lives, and what I mean by
that is
whatever sin that you may be involved in,
don't let that make you feel that
you are not worthy
of standing in front of Allah Subhanahu Wa
Ta'ala.
No matter what is happening,
no matter what filthy act that you may
have fallen into,
no matter what you may have watched
before you went to sleep under your blanket,
The shaytan gets the better of us.
Messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam, he said, kullubani adam,
kata, every son of Adam, he constantly makes
mistakes,
but the best of those are those who
repent to Allah and they come back to
him, and
so whatever happens, brothers and sisters, don't leave
off the salah.
As Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
teaches us that this is a mechanism that
will help you
overcome and overpower
some of these filthy acts that we are
involved in.
The
removes the filth and the evil from your
life.
Right.
I'll tell you guys story very quickly.
A couple of years ago
sorry, Sheikh, going on a little bit. Yeah.
Couple of years ago, and I think sometimes
these
not
there's difference between the 2.
Is like a mythical story, and
I was driving in Leicester, and I saw
some of our brothers
who were standing around. Some of them were
smoking weed.
They were just vibing. I decided to get
out the car and give them
why are you guys laughing?
It's that it's that isn't that what you
guys say is vibing?
Like, they were, like, chilling about
standing around.
So I decided, you know what? Let me
just get out of the car and quickly
give them a reminder.
And, of course, in Leicester,
what many are used to is being
stopped on the road
and given an hour's reminder
by a group of brothers who tend to
go around and give the hour.
And so I told them straight away, listen.
I'm not part of the group. I just
want to give you a 2 minute reminder.
They were respectful enough to stop smoking weed
in my face because they were smoking, some
of them.
All I said to them, brothers, is it
fair? Is it fair
that we have 24 hours in the day
and we can't give 25 minutes to Allah
Subhanahu wa Ta'ala, 25 minutes.
We are busy and so occupied
with all sorts of things,
whether it may be dunya, whether it may
be work, whether it may be uni, whatever
it might be. We can't give 25 minutes
to Allah
Right. I told him brothers, pray,
because I know
it's only a matter of time that the
salah
overpowers a lot of the evil that we
might be involved in.
Couple of years when Baye happened to be
in Zamzam Pulman in Medina, some of you
guys may have visited
a hotel.
My dad normally has brings hajj and umrah
groups, so a group came. My brother came
to me. He's wearing a big thobe,
had a big beard.
He said, do you remember me? What I
just thought was one of the brothers that
came to the programs, came to the
I said, no, you know, you don't look
familiar.
He said, you came up to us on
that night,
some of us were smoking weed in your
face, thank you for reminding me,
because I left, and I just prayed.
Even though I didn't fully detach myself from
all of that which I was involved in,
but I just used to go and pray,
taking the advice that you gave me.
And eventually, I began to feel extremely, extremely
uncomfortable
around the environment that I was in.
Right.
This, my brothers and my sisters, is from
the effects of the salah.
It really, really is.
Right.
You know a wall that's coming down, a
wall that's coming down, the salah is holding
it. And you're pushing it like that right,
that's a salah.
The moment you stop praying, accept everything else
to go downhill.
Expect to lose
your identity.
Expect
to completely lose direction, brothers,
the moment you boycott salah.
So this is what I really wanted to
start with. We've spoken a lot about the
importance of knowledge. Normally, when I go around
to the universities after I've given
maybe an hour and a half lecture, I
give them 5 things. The first thing that
I always start with is the issue of
the salah,
Right?
We mentioned the rest of the stuff, Insha'Allah.
And the Sheikh is going to answer the
next question.
Making me feel extremely uncomfortable.
That's why I'm here to make you feel
uncomfortable.
Okay? But
you'll be very comfortable with me.
Don't worry.
I am going to hopefully contribute to some
of the answers.
As the opening statement given by the sheikh,
I would also like to take this opportunity
and to give a short statement
regarding the concept of steadfastness.
And,
this is something that we all have to
remind ourselves about.
Allah
has said in the Quran.
Indeed those who have said that Allah is
their lord
and after that they were steadfast upon that
path.
Allah said they will have no fear and
also nor grieve as well. In another eye,
Allah has
said in the Allah Subhanallah. In this other
Allah
reminded us what is going to
happen after when he's about to die, when
you're about to die, when you're about to
check out from this world and transition to
the next life,
angels will descend upon that person,
and you will be the only one who's
able to see the angels, but those who
are sitting around you won't be able to
see the angels. And what will the angels
say to you?
So remember, if you are steadfast upon the
religion, what will happen is the angels will
give you the glad tidings that you should
have no fear, neither should you have any
grief at all. And not only that, they
will give you the glad tidings of what?
Go into paradise.
So this is something that Allah
has promised us. And if Allah makes a
promise in the If
Allah makes a promise, that's exactly what is
going to happen. And I'm going to conclude
with this quick
opening statement with with this
topic, the topic of of steadfastness
and the hadith of the prophet
and the companion
came to the the prophet
and and he said to him
give me advice that I will not ask
Something that
I will never need to ask somebody else
after after you. And then what did the
father say to that companion?
He said to him what did he say
to him? Who's gonna remind us the hadith?
What do you think the prophet said to
him?
Say
I believe in Allah and then be steadfast
upon that path.
So, this
as an opening statement,
with regards to the concept of a steadfastness.
This is what I would like to say.
So I'm going to move on to the
q and a right now.
And, one of the questions that was sent
by the my by our brothers and sisters
and is the following question.
And the question is related to probably some
of the things that, Sheikh Abutaimia
has spoken about,
today. So the first one is about,
what as as the divorce rates
increase in the Muslim community to avoid
this? What is the best way for a
sister to take time in getting to know
a brother whilst doing
in a halal and permissible manner?
For the Sheikh. Yes. That's for you. I
appreciate it.
What advice do you have for a sister
Sheikh? Sheikh is
constantly marriage counseling.
He deals with these issues on a day
to day basis.
I'm just a freelance. I come, and I
give the lecture and leave.
Okay.
First of all, and,
the question should have been answered by the
Sheikh, but, I'm going to just start it
and and hopefully, he will complete it.
And,
what advice
would I give to a sister,
okay, to a sister who wants to get
married
and she wants to take her time
before she gets married
to this particular brother.
And
what is the halal way and permissible way
that she can actually be in touch with
him, but at the same time,
not rush into the marriage.
My dear brothers and sisters in Islam, let
me tell you this.
Let me tell you this.
Yes. The times the times and the world
that we live in right now
is quite challenging. Things are very difficult.
Things are not as they used to be.
And I have mentioned this many, many times
from this message from this platform.
I have reminded the brothers and the sisters,
things are not the same as they used
to be in the past.
Definitely, we don't have
the extended family that we used to have
in the past. As a youngster,
for example, my time
and the times that were before that time,
I remember naturally young people, they would have
learned
just from the extended family what marriage is
all about, and they used to have the
support system necessary for them. And it was
easy for somebody just to want to get
married to a particular sister. All he needed
to do was just to speak to her
father, for example, and then the father would
speak to the family or to speak to
his own father, and then the father would
approach the other family. And then they would
say, my son wants to get married to
your daughter. What do you think? And then
the father would say to his daughter, such
and such family came for came to us
and they're asking your hand in marriage, what
do you think? And her sister would say,
if you're happy with them, I'm happy with
them. And marriage used to happen that way,
and there was so much in that marriage.
And there was so much in that marriage.
It was nice and simple. There wasn't like
back and forth texting day and night, or
for example, getting to know to each other
with getting to know one another these days.
This is what happens. We are becoming like
what? Like the prophet
We are following the footsteps of those people
who came before us. Okay? Meaning the people
of the book.
Now we are seeing Muslims,
Muslim sisters and brothers are saying, we don't
wanna get married very quickly because we need
to get to know one another. We wanna
go out with with one another, for example.
We wanna go out and actually
go for holiday together. Just imagine a brother
and a sister who are not even married,
and they are okay to go
with one another for a holiday
to travel and and and actually enjoy themselves
in Dubai,
or for example, Turkey. So they want to
know one another, get to know one another.
And this is this is the reality. This
is what we are dealing with. Is this
Islamically allowed? Is it permissible? No. It is
not allowed. It's not permissible.
So my dear brothers and sisters in Islam,
and the more you fear Allah subhanahu wa
ta'ala as a brother, as a sister, when
you are getting married, when you are in
the process of getting married, when you are
doing the courting,
okay, the more you are close to Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, the more you feel Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, the more baraka that Allah
is gonna place in your marriage. One of
the advices that I give to the brothers
and the sisters is do not prolong the
courting.
What do I mean? Do not prolong the
go do you know the the back and
forth part of the of getting to know
one another or getting to know, for example,
the family of the person that you're getting
married to and so forth. Don't prolong it
too much. Okay?
Be do your due diligence, which is very
important, but at the same time, don't take
too much time. Because what happens is sometimes
and this is exactly what I say to
the people. Imagine if you have known
your wife to be for a year or
your wife to be, she has known you,
like, for a year, and you've been going
back and forth.
Okay. And just imagine
after knowing one another for a few months,
if you don't drop her a text every
morning, she's gonna get upset with you.
You're not even married to her. Why didn't
you send me a message last week?
What? You're not even my wife yet. Okay?
You didn't send me, like, a a nice
poem or this or that. We're not married
yet,
Remember this stuff.
So if you prolong this, what will you
have left for the 1st night of the
wedding?
Okay. You've you've you've already used all your
credit before you even got married. This what
happens. Why why is it that young people
today,
their marriage their marriage doesn't last more than
what? It doesn't last more than a month.
Some of them, their marriage doesn't even last
for a week. This is the reality. Why?
Because they
have taken their time in terms of what
getting to know one another. They've known each
other, like, for 2 years back and forth.
They've gone through every emotion in the book
together, like, for 2 years. And now after
they come and meet physically and spend time
together
1 to 1 for a week,
they had enough of each other.
This is the problem. So
my advice to the sister or to the
brother is both of them, they don't need
to prolong this this period where where you
need to know where you need to get
to know the other person. Don't prolong it.
Make it simple and easy
Put your trust in
Allah. Seek advice.
What was the second part?
It's important that you seek advice from the
elders, those people that you trust. Okay? And
then also do the and what will happen
you will not regret it. And then after
that do your of Allah
If the sheikh is gonna add,
a bit more to this. Can you see
why I gave it to him?
I would not have given you the answer.
What what, what I can add,
and, of course what the sheikh mentioned is
more than sufficient.
Brothers and sisters,
we need to learn
how to be husbands and wives.
The reason why I say this because
what we are exposed to
isn't how to be a husband and wife.
What are we constantly gazing at?
These Instagram couples
and YouTubers
who are setting a precedent for every single
one of us who's constantly attached to them
and their videos,
we've become glued to it, oh, that's how
it should be.
I'm sure a lot of you guys,
I call it the biggest
Instagram quote in quote out Muslim scandal.
How many times did I hear a sister,
right, saying, you know when you go for
marriage counseling, whatever have you, I want my
husband to be
like him, who's him?
That bearded guy
who is jumping up and down with his
niqabi wife on the bouncy castle.
You guys know what I'm speaking about.
Constantly comparing their lives to what they see
on Instagram, what they see on YouTube, and
brothers and sisters,
please take this from me, a lot of
that which we see on the world wide
web is fake.
It is fake.
I don't think, I don't know whether I
said this to you guys before, you know,
I would spend hours in the Prophet sallallahu
alaihi wa sallam's masjid, I would sit there
from after I said all the way,
I would see a lot of people walking
past
how many times have I seen someone
walking past and the guy looks miserable,
he looks
absolutely miserable
he takes out his phone
Snapchat, he takes the picture, and then he
uploads it. Who's the victim? The guy who's
what? Watching.
Sitting at home, thinking to himself, look, I'm
missing out.
A lot of that which we see, wallahi,
brothers and sisters, is fake.
Okay. There are some books that I could
recommend.
There is a book called 20 pieces of
advice to my sister
before her marriage,
by Sheikh Hudbaylutibi.
It's been translated into English. One time,
I bought a whole cartoon,
a whole box, and I started giving out
to the sisters in the Masjid, yeah,
I gave it to the masjid, and they
started giving out. Now I wasn't personally giving
out to him, no.
And And I was like, yeah, Masjid, give
it to him. At least, you know, we
can start with our own Masjid.
They can learn about it, and they can
have a good idea
of what marriage is all about.
Many people when they get into a marriage
now, he still thinks that he's living his
single life,
he goes out, he comes back when he
wants,
right, just like he used to conduct himself
before marriage. There's another kitab called
secrets to successful marriage.
I think the author is called
Afshan Khan or something like that,
talks about how the woman should be, the
expectations, and so on and so forth
that many women have, which is completely misconstrued,
you know. I think these 2 books might
be might be helpful to learn about. I
have
a video on my YouTube channel. It's called
7,
7
steps to a successful marriage.
It's very, very important. And as the Sheikh
mentioned, the most important thing is what?
Your relationship with Allah, Azza wa Jal. I
have the triangle theory.
You guys know that not the Freemason.
The
triangle theory, I think, is very beneficial. Who
do you have at the top? Allah. Who
do you have them over the corners? Husband
and the wife.
What happens now when they do that which
is pleasing to Allah?
Can you see they are getting closer as
well and they are getting closer to Allah
when they now do that which is displeasing
to Allah they are getting further away from
Allah and
and there is a big distance between them.
Please watch that video. It's an hour, I
think, 20 minutes. Masha'Allah. Seven important things now.
Masha'Allah. This is the only love triangle which
is allowed.
Okay? No other love triangles. This is the
only one which is allowed. Yeah?
Okay. If we move on from that question,
And the next question is gonna be a
bit different,
so we can you can actually feel the
flavor
of the type of questions that have been
sent. The questions that have been sent.
And,
how and this actually this particular question is
actually addressed to you, sheikh. I cannot even
ask it myself.
I'm out of it.
To the person that said question for Sheikh
Abou Tamia. So this is specific.
Okay.
Okay. So the question goes like this.
How to practice steadfastness
when one son has now left college
and follows the crowd on the street
selling haram things.
Continuously advising him but not but he's not
listening.
And used to be someone who obeyed and
now is not connected to the religion
or the family.
Please advise as a parent,
what should I do?
I also ask that you make dua for
him to guide him.
Amen.
Okay.
You know, the Sheikh, like I told you
guys earlier, he's a lot older.
He has, I think, daughters
that are pretty old.
Allahu Alam, whether you have sons as well,
so shakashallahu ta'ala.
The other person experienced in this,
please give the auntie some
much needed advice with regards to this.
As a father
you know, I've just have a little Taimia,
and Sabeel that just came along a couple
of weeks ago.
We're still doing trial and error, Sheikh. So,
Exactly.
Okay. I think I am gonna
I'm gonna answer the question, but not the
way that the sheikh was expecting me to
answer the question. I just wanna tell him
that Sheikh Islam in Betania was not even
he never got even he never even got
married, let alone even had a child. So
and he was able to answer every question
and used to advise the parents. So you
not having
older kids is not gonna exempt you from
answering these kind of questions because you have
the knowledge for them.
There's a number of things that
that I can maybe put forward, and I'm
sure the sheikh will
add on to it, Bein alayhta'ala.
And as parents, I'm sure
we will appreciate this.
You know, the prophet, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam,
he told us, salat udawatin,
misterjabat,
3 duas
will always be accepted. 1 of them is
the dua that the parent makes
for the child.
I
know parents that went to the Kaaba,
and their children were not living the best
of lives.
And now, walahee, alhamdulillminna,
they're in a very, very good place.
You don't have to go all the way
to the Kaaba.
Yes. When you give or when you make
dua in and around the Kaaba, especially at
the Mu'tazim,
it has a huge, you know,
effect and but generally speaking, the dua of
the waleed is accepted.
And likewise, if the the waleed, the parent
makes dua against the child,
there's different narrations for it
so this is something that should be what
Mustamir
in in one of the riwaya
it's a constant dua that we should always
be making for
our children, asking Allah
Number 2, my brothers and my sisters,
and I think also as parents we can
maybe relate,
How much of our time do we give
to our children?
How much of our time do we actually
give to our children?
One of the benefits that we can tell
from Surah Yusuf,
we know that Yusuf
the moment he saw the dream,
right?
Who did
he go running to as soon as he
saw his dream?
He went running to his father.
Benefit that we can take from now my
brothers and my sisters, he felt extremely comfortable
around him.
Some
some parents,
the only type of relationship they have with
their kids is showing them the back of
the hunt.
When they've done something wrong, when they've done
something wrong, they get pulled into the war
room
and they have a serious discussion.
For the rest of the time, there is
absolutely no relationship,
right. If we don't spend time with our
kids, there will be enough people that
are ready to embrace them.
When is the last time that we took
our kids out, just taking them out,
alright, maybe we'll go for a meal.
This really goes a long way in strengthening
that bond with the kids.
Maybe a theme park, I don't know.
Just coming out together,
having that lovely relationship with them, and we
just talk. I know some parents, my brothers
and my sisters, and I really really rate
them, and it's not easy.
Okay.
Every single night they sit with their kids
from a very young age. It becomes a
norm.
It becomes a norm
that we just sit at night together, maybe
over dinner, not because they've done something wrong,
not because they've done something wrong, but let's
just talk, how was your day today?
Right, she asked me when's the last time
I said, oh, just how are you? Like
let's just talk, you only.
You know. So just having that bond with
them.
Like I said, otherwise there'll be enough people
that are ready to embrace them.
Right?
Sheikh, I think you got some stuff to
add. Yeah. JazakAllah Khair,
for those
words of wisdom,
I just want to add as a as
as as as an elder, as a parent
myself,
and also as a as a as a
brother who gives,
reminders sometimes,
in different places.
Recently, I was in Canada about a week
ago. I just came back a couple of
days ago. I remember delivering the,
and one of the things that I mentioned
in the was,
and
as children, we have to have so much
respect for our parents.
And one of the things I told them
was a story
that has happened to be myself, which I
have shared with the brothers
who are from this masjid, and they have
seen me do it actually in front of
them.
When my father came and visited here visited
us here in Masjid Al Farhan,
a few months ago,
I asked my father to come to the
front of the masjid,
and then I kissed the forehead of my
father.
And I did that to show everybody who
was present that day. It was the day
of Eid.
And I showed them this
to say to them regardless of how old
you are,
still you are a child to your parents,
and you have to have respect for them.
And I told them a story that happened
to me
way back.
I'm talking about maybe a quarter of a
century ago. This was like long long time
ago for sheikh Abutemi. It's gonna be a
long time, for him. So
over 25 years ago, I believe when this
incident happened, I was in Sheffield.
Brother Daniel Islam, who's from Sheffield, is over
there with his kids as well. I'm happy
to see him tonight with his kids,
That's that's the kind of fatherhood that we
want to to have the kids with their
father coming to the Masjid, and I know
there are other fathers who are sitting here
as well with their children as well. Based
upon the advice that
was giving us, spending time with the kids,
which is very important. So let me just
tell you
the story. So the story was like this.
So let me just tell you the story.
So the story was like this.
And back in Sheffield, Masjid Abu Horeira,
the Islamic Center, we were there. And what
happened was
my father,
like, every single day or every other night,
when the salah finished, he was talking to
some of the brothers
at the back of the masjid. And then
I went over to them and I gave
salaam to them.
My father was among the 3 or 4
people who were standing together at the back
of the masjid.
I shook hand. I shook their hands. That's
it. And then I walked away, and then
I walked off. What are the brothers?
I'm going to share with you where he
came from as well today. The brother was
from Saudi Arabia.
The uncle who's gonna deal with me, this
uncle is gonna deal with me properly.
Okay? After I walked off, he came
after me and he pulled me to the
side and he said to me,
I'm upset with you. I said to him,
uncle, what what's wrong, uncle?
He said to me, did you just not
know what you've just do you not know
what you've just done right now? I said,
what have I done?
He said to me, you came over to
us. Me,
your father, and another brother,
and all you did was you shook hands
with us,
and your father was among us.
How would anybody ever tell
if one of us was your father?
If you just shook hands with us.
Where is the respect for your father?
I was like,
wow. I said,
what do you want me to do, Sheikh?
He said to me, you should have kissed
the forehead of your father.
You should have kissed the forehead of your
father
to show him respect
and to show everyone else around the masjid
that he's your father. He's not like any
other man.
I said to him, lesson learned, Sheikh.
I will try and do it from today.
I started doing it from that time.
I never told my brothers my younger brothers
I've got 9 brothers. Alhamdulillah.
I never told them to do the same
as I do, but I just showed them
with my actions.
After they saw me do that, they started
kissing the forehead of their father.
When I told this story
to our brothers
or sometimes when I remind young brothers to
be respectful to their parents,
I see sometimes resistance
from young people.
One brother came to me the other day.
He's a father himself,
and he had his little kid with him.
And he said to me, yeah, imam, I
agree with you. What you said was nice,
that we should kiss the forehead of our
fathers. But imagine if our fathers don't show
us any respect.
Our fathers don't respect us.
How can I give him respect? How can
I kiss kiss his forehead?
This was the point that she was making
As a father, you need to give time
to your kids.
You have to show them respect and love
and care.
And remember the
For what reason?
Imagine if you've never given them any
as a father. How do you expect them
to show you respect,
love, and care?
So it's important, those of you who are
fathers, to take lesson from this and those
of you who are potential fathers
to take a lesson from this as well.
Because one day, you will become a father
yourself. So you need to show with the
respect that Chekhov Tani was talking about. Give
your kids time.
I'm sorry that I'm giving you a whole
lecture right now, but that this was not
what I was trying to do. Elijah. But
I have to share this stuff with you
guys. Okay? To wake up.
As parents, we need to wake up. As
kids also, we need to wake up. Remember,
your father though, let me tell you, your
father and your mother,
make sure that you have to have respect
for them. Even if they cause you harm,
it's not an excuse. It's not good excuse
for you to say to me, oh, my
father doesn't respect me. Why should I kiss
his forehead? My father doesn't respect me. Why
should I give him a hug? My father
doesn't respect me. Why should I why should
I be kind to him? No. No. No.
That's not good. That's that's not,
an answer, which is a satisfactory answer.
And it's not an excuse. You have to
be kind to your father Allah
what did he say to us
until the end of the eye.
I can't go into this topic right now
because I'm I'm gonna become a bit emotional,
and you might see the other side of
me. And I don't want you to see
the other side of me. I want you
just to see the good side of me.
Alright?
That's what I'm gonna check out. Don't put
me in this position, Shayk.
I told you.
Shall we go on to the next question?
Are you ready for another question? Sheikh, can
I just quickly ask you? Okay, man. This
is very common that people tend to ask.
It's a very common question. The Sheikh the
thing that Sheikh was speaking about,
my parents are treating me a certain way,
why can't I treat them the same way
they're treating me? That is a shaytanic
excuse.
That doesn't, you know, two wrongs don't make
a right. You're going to be asked about
your actions, they're going to be asked about
their actions.
Even if they are kuffar,
they're disbelievers, there's a whole eye in the
Quran,
So you have to be good to them
in the matters of the dunya and show
kindness towards them,
right?
Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam told us if
someone has got ties with you, you go
and
keep a relationship.
Even if they're not picking up your calls,
try somewhat way, drop a text or go
through someone. You still have to make the
effort.
Right. Someone deprived you, go and give to
them. It's not easy brothers. I'm not gonna
sit here and talk like it's easy. Why
if I'm on Dharamakh,
and forgive those who have maybe oppressed you.
It's not easy. Walaik, guys. Don't think I'm
just, you know, giving you guys lip service,
not understanding
the the dynamics. It can be very very
difficult, very difficult.
But nothing in life is easy, right?
And the more
something is difficult, my brothers and sisters, the
more rewarding it is.
One is rewarded in accordance with how many
difficulties he goes through
every time you try, every time you find
it difficult,
Shaa Allah getting rewarded for it. It's a
jihad
On the channel 4 jihad,
like I mentioned earlier, yeah.
The next question is gonna be quite different
as well,
and and hopefully, everyone will benefit from the
answer.
How does one begin acquiring beneficial Islamic knowledge,
especially whilst working a full time job as
well? How can they juggle?
You're the imam.
Yes. Has a full time job. Like I
said, I'm just a freelancer. I sit at
home.
Yeah. Brothers and sisters, I am a disbeliever
in someone who says I don't have time.
I am a disbeliever in it.
Nam.
No matter how busy you get, I still
believe you have time.
For those who have iPhones, I don't know
anything about Samsung.
I'm a loyal Apple fan,
long term,
right.
Go to your settings
and check your screen time
and see how much you are spending on
social media.
Normally, it is mothers with children that message
and say, oh, I don't have time and
I've got kids and this and that.
Whenever I say this to them,
they never respond back again.
Go and check your screen time,
the amount of time that you spend on
there. You know, like brothers,
when we look at you have Ikhlas being
sincere, and you also have being truthful,
right, you
whenever you get time,
you fill it with beneficial knowledge or you
fill it with
acquiring and pursuing knowledge.
Some have this type of ajju, when I
get a time that I'm go like what
makes you think that Allah will just allow
that to take place? Show Allah Azzaweed that
you really, really want it.
Right.
If you're wasting your time
and then you say when I get a
time I'm going to open that Kitab, that
time may never come, brothers and sisters.
Nothing in life comes easy, there has to
be a sacrifice.
It may well mean that you cut down
a little on your sleep,
Are you cut down on your sleep, brothers
and sisters?
Does that make sense?
We are ready to wake up early when
it comes to this and when it comes
to that. When it comes to get togethers,
we're ready to maybe
sleep late, sahih.
If something is very, very important to you,
you're going to give it time, brothers and
sisters.
And that's I think a principle in everyone's
life. You will give time to that which
is very very important to you.
Right.
I remember I asked one of them shayikh
in America.
I said, Sheikh, I'm probably assuming that you've
got 4 wives, Allahu Alam, you're a popular
guy, you got Quran and everything, you probably
got the money as well.
When do you find time?
He goes, when do you think? I said,
what, aft fajr?
And then it registered, no, no, not even
aft fajr. If you're an imam,
and people, you know, have a good relationship
with you, even after Fajr they're gonna come
to you and ask you questions.
And then I remembered one time when I
was an imam.
So I said when Sheikh Qabir al Fajr?
He said he may well be.
Before Fajr, when everyone's asleep,
right, you're not gonna find anyone may normally
in the Masjid.
No one's gonna be knocking on your door
saying, brother, I have this question, and can
you help me in this no. Everyone's asleep.
Even the wife's asleep, your children are asleep
finding a time when no one's going to
occupy you it may well be that you
have to stay up after the fajr while
the family is asleep, you're going to have
eye bags
nothing in life comes easy
all the scholars have unanimously agreed that you
cannot expect
to attain
bliss,
right,
or to attain or to accomplish anything, brothers
and sisters, by ease, and you have to
go in through the difficulty, you know,
So you have to point the effort.
I said this before, I'll say again, you
guys know Ronaldo. Right?
Ronaldo again is in Omaha. Yeah. Everyone knows
Ronaldo. Right? Yeah. Brothers,
I'm not mentioning him because we want to
glorify him or
I don't want to dignify this guy's name,
but people can relate to it, what kind
of life does he live?
How much money has he invested
into his health?
Even his sleeping pattern and his diet is
very different to everyone here.
He eats, I heard, 7 times a day,
and each time is small little portions of
foods that he stays away from.
And apparently, he sleeps, I think, 6 times,
and each time is, like, 1 hour and
25 or 1 an hour 1 hour and
a half naps. Look at the sacrifice
that he's making.
You guys seen what happened with Coca Cola?
It was on the table.
He took it off.
How did this impact Coca Cola, guys?
Because he goes, I don't want to promote,
unhealthy foods.
You think it's easy to stay away from
Coca Cola and this and that which we
desire and we love and there has to
be some sort of sacrifice that is made,
and it has to be disciplined.
They even asked him, do you think your
son will become like you, your son?
He said, no. They said, why? Because he
likes sweet drinks.
Sacrifice,
discipline, all that is needed.
You know? Absolutely. So cut down, insha Allah,
on maybe the time that you spend on
your phone, wake up a little bit more
early, you have to put that extra
mile in, you know.
InshaAllah ta'ala, you'll be able to find time
for seeking knowledge.
Just like the Sheikh.
Even though, subhanAllah, is busy with your questions
and your problems, and
he still finds time to, you know, organize
programs and delivers classes, and, mashaAllah, I listen
to the classes sometimes and
and after Fajr, he's here, right? After Fajr
al Sheikh is delivering classes as an imam
who's got family, he's here all the time,
Allahu Akbar.
Not missing the fajr.
Just as a follow-up question to that, and,
young brothers are asking this question as well,
and as youngsters,
the time we live in right now
is not an easy time, there's so much
confusion happening.
But at the same time,
when we came back to Allah,
we made Tawba from where what we were
upon in the past, and now we are
trying to hold on to the religion of
Allah,
to be steadfast upon the path of Allah
We come back to the Masajid. We want
to seek knowledge,
but every now and then we are hearing
people who are discouraging
us from going to certain masajids
or benefiting from certain and
and there's so much confusion happening.
What
advice can you give me as a youngster,
as a youth who wants to seek knowledge
and put his head down and and and
but I am hearing this stuff all the
time. And what kind of advice would you
give me in order to kind of like
and,
to block that away?
Well, hi, brothers.
There was a similar discussion that happened yesterday
in Greenlane Masjid. Honestly, it was one of
the nicest
programs that I participated in in the last
year, to see so many
Muslims come out, and
and because, of course, this kind of
problem is extremely prevalent in places like Birmingham
as well.
Brothers, will I take this from you? If
you don't take anything from me, and you
haven't taken anything from me, please just take
this one thing from me.
Don't waste your youth with kheel and qal,
he said and she said.
I have seen enough brothers go to Medina.
You guys know in Medina?
Right?
Who wasted their time, she said, he said,
many of them, they didn't go past
the Arabic Institute,
they weren't able to graduate from it,
or they may have joined one of the
faculties and then they dropped out.
And you know what's even more worse?
Some when they dropped out they came back
to the west, they came back to the
UK and they became drug dealers
SubhanAllah. Wallahi, they became drug dealers. I know
them by names.
And they were the ones who used to
what speak ill of others.
Right. You guys now see people showing me
a lot of love and whatever have you.
When I went there, brothers, I went through
a very, very difficult time,
very difficult time.
Imagine I would walk into the university, no
one would give me salams,
no one.
Because of certain things, they had,
he studied in Yemen and the Sheikh Kedah
or Madriesh, or when he was in the
UK, he sat with this guy, and
yesterday after the Green Lane conference, a brother
came up to me,
and I saw tears in his eyes.
He hugged me, and he said thank you,
jazakalakher,
and please forgive me, and he kept on
saying to me, please please forgive me
of all these things that he said about
me and this and that,
and right.
If I open some of my messages, I'm
sure I will find in my email someone
saying, Akh, please forgive me, I said this
about you, I said that about you.
The more people start seeking knowledge, the more
tolerant they will become, the more intelligent they
will become.
And the sad thing with all these brothers
is
that left the jamma and they wasted their
time to be allowed
to come to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
sallam's
city. Do you know how many people apply
every year brothers? 500,000.
You know how many get accepted?
3000.
Allah chose you from all these people you
come and then you waste it.
Right? I've seen some masha'ikh make du'a against
some of these kids Subhanallah. Who are giving
them so much trouble. Subhanallah. They got tired.
Right? And at the end of the day,
who was our lost, these brothers?
Ibn Josi
in his kitab,
he says from the deception of Iblis on
the people of Hadith, not just some random
Joe
that you see walking around on the streets
of Manchester
people of Hadith
them taking swipes at one another, taking shots
at one another,
insulting and jabbing one another
And they do this under the guise of
the science that is studied in hadith
you will keep on hearing
I got tired of hearing this term
taped
if I sit down with them and I
discuss with them the issues
they won't be able to say anything.
Completely misunderstood of what the Minhaj actually is.
The Minhaj is clear, Quran, Sunnah, what the
sahab are upon. Then there are issues that
are what?
Right? It's not clear cut. You weigh the
pros and the cons.
The whole religion is built on weighing pros
and cons, and they are not issued that
you should declare another to be an innovative
form, whatever have you. And this has become
extremely widespread. People think this is how the
shaytan deceived,
that you are defending the religion, wallahi or
not.
Wallahi lillahi lillahi lillahi you're not, you're just
backbiting and slandering.
Alright. So I was telling the brothers and
sisters in Greenlane, I just have one request.
When you guys walk out of the Masjid
today, there will be enough people.
So and so is this, this message is
this, this message is that,
right, I make dua for people who message
me and say
you said
what does it mean or what did you
intend?
Verify information.
Read it brothers and sisters, I think the
Sheikh has gone through
it. Even yesterday, I went through it in
Birmingham.
Went through some of the verses.
Just verifying information, having good assumptions of others.
Now Messenger sallallahu alaihi wa sallam would treat
the Munafiqun
and Alawahir, what was apparent,
right that's how we would treat them he
wouldn't go into their intentions even though he
had every reason to do so
this is how we treat the
or if someone's giving dawah, ask why did
you do this?
If you really really want to know.
But brothers and sisters,
stop wasting your time. Study
your deen
and utilize your youth
before you become like a lot of these
elders who picked up bibs and bobs here,
and they don't understand Arabic, and they're just
regurgitating the same information that they heard 20
years ago.
Just constantly what repeating menhij menhij menhij.
Right.
That's my advice to you guys for life.
I have gone
I've just become so tired.
We're trying to call to Allah. Wallahi, the
feminists are coming after us. The Liberals are
coming after us. The rainbow team is trying
to get me banned,
right,
from different institutions and whatever have you. Alhamdulillah,
no one was able to do anything.
Right? And then you got your brothers
from the same skin of yours who are
constantly trying to drag you down.
There's khair taking place, okay, if there is
a mistake there's a way to go about
dealing with it
There is a way dealing with the mistake
Right?
SubhanAllah.
Well, guys, I'm
really tired of this. Allah, I got very,
very
for them, insha
Allah, to be a source of benefit for
the community.
Right? But then you have all of these
challenges, what
can we do?
Right.
No one came with that which you came
with except that he was harmed
even the Sheikh of Amashayikh, Mukbib Bin Hadil
Waidah used to say, right, when you read
You know the
blanket? Hide under it.
Alright.
Prophet, just benefit and
but you don't know the Quran.
One of the things that brothers are criticized
for that graduate,
akhir spent 6 years wa'an tahfirullah Quran, you
have a member of the Quran.
Right? And then they get upset when someone
else is invited to lead the Salat in
Taraweeh in Ramadan, oh, his Manhaj is this,
You
know?
Sorry, Sheikha. Just my emotions came out to
the
even yesterday and
Yes. I just want to, elaborate what the
Sheikh said, and it doesn't really need any,
elaboration or anything, But, I just want to
add something because some some of the things
that he said really caught my
my my eyes.
And one of the things that the sheikh
has mentioned is, he has seen young people
who went to the and
but they visit themselves with
such and such and said this and such
and said that, said that, and and then
at the end, they have not even been
able they were not even able to complete
the jammer.
And and they came back and they became
really subhanallah into the dunya and they started
doing bad stuff
sometimes even those people who have knowledge
so called knowledge sometimes
who go and talk about other people
and kind of, like,
criticize other Muslims
and other masajids
and and and and and say bad things
about them or warn against them,
we have seen I saw this with my
own eyes, and I'm gonna tell you a
story tonight, which I haven't told anybody. I've
I don't think I've ever mentioned this story
in public, and I'm gonna tell you tonight
for the first time. Do you wanna hear
it?
Are you serious about it?
Shall I tell you about it?
All of you, are you ready for it?
I'll tell you.
And the sheikh was talking about Birmingham, yep,
and
this is like a while back
And I'm just gonna give you an example.
So
in
the
okay. We have to benefit from this stuff.
I will tell you tonight what has caused
me to go to the Jamia Jamia. Shall
I tell you the reason
why I went to the Jamia?
You'll find out tonight.
I was a youngster once upon a time.
This is how the story goes.
Okay? I went to one of the conferences
in Birmingham,
And as we were coming back,
before we left the masjid,
there was a particular individual
who was considered to be a strong student
of knowledge,
and he used to teach the youth in
that masjid.
I was from Sheffield that time
from our masjid, from masjid the taqwa.
I was a youngster, a volunteer who used
to volunteer
in the masjid, and
I think I was part of the Dawah
team that time,
and we spoke to this sheikh or student
of knowledge who used to teach in this
masjid.
We said to the sheikh, sheikh, we have
heard a lot of good things about you,
and we want to invite you to come
to our masjid masjid the taqwa.
And he said, where is masjid the taqwa?
And we told him masjid the taqwa is
in Sheffield.
He said to us, okay. Who's the sheikh
of the masjid?
Can you tell me the sheikh of the
masjid?
We said, the sheikh of the masjid is
called the Sheikh Alimawlid.
Do you know who Sheikh Alimawlit is?
My father.
Who's the Sheikh of the masjid? We said
Sheikh Alimawlit.
And he said,
yeah. We've heard,
things about him.
He doesn't know who I am. Okay?
He said,
yeah. We've heard, a bit about that masjid,
and the sheikh who's who's who's the sheikh
of the masjid, and
and,
we'll think about it.
He said, we might come we might come
to the masjid, but with one condition.
And
I wasn't alone. I had other brothers with
me from Sheffield. Yeah. He said we will
come to the masjid with one condition. Said,
okay. What's the condition, Sheikh? He said, the
first thing that we're going to do before
we even say anything,
any reminder,
the first thing we are going to do
is we're going to refute the sheikh of
the masjid.
He said that is the first thing we're
going to do. I've never told anybody.
I'm going I'm telling you tonight.
I want you to benefit from this.
And,
he went he started mentioning things. He said,
they have to be refuted. This is what
Sheikh Fulan has said. Sheikh Fulan has said
this. I didn't know any of that.
I was there powerless. I wasn't able to
defend my father.
I felt powerless.
He did he didn't know who I was,
but he was talking about my father.
And there was nothing I could say to
defend my father because I didn't have knowledge.
I only memorized the Quran, but I didn't
know anything else.
I had to just go
silent, quiet,
like a little
chick here. It's like, alright. Alright. I can't
say anything.
Okay?
And he insisted. He said, like, that's the
only condition.
We will come to that Masjid, but with
this condition,
we will refute the sheikh of the Masjid.
We will clarify to the community
that he is from the people of Bida.
He never met him. He never sat down
with him. He just heard there's a sheikh
called and he's the imam of he's the
sheikh of that community or that masjid.
Okay?
The question now is, where is that student
of knowledge? You need to ask me.
Where is he today?
He has disappeared from the.
He's nobody right now.
Look. The fitna, he used to talk about
other people and the dawah of other mashaikh.
Now he has nothing.
He had so many family problems,
a lot of issues,
and right now he's not even a. He's
he's off the radar.
But the that was in it was
to ignite
my love for wanting to learn the deed.
That was the height from it.
I was gonna be busy with other things,
But because of him, because of his actions,
I decided to go and study the deen
for myself.
So if somebody opens his mouth like that,
I know how to shut him up.
That was it.
But since I came back,
I did not use my knowledge
as
a as a weapon of mass destruction. I'm
not using it for that. The purpose of
knowledge is not to destroy people.
The purpose of knowledge is to give life
and light it to the people.
I want every one of you to go
to Jannah Ekwani.
That's what I want. I want every Muslim
to go to Jannah.
I want every Muslim to be a good
Muslim.
That's what I want. I love I love
for you guys.
Just imagine someone
who is criticizing
and critiquing
and boycotting and asking other people to boycott
someone that they've never met. They don't even
know.
Based upon such and such a said, such
and such about such and such person.
This is the reality.
Okay? But as a as the sheikh has
said,
my advice to you guys, all of you,
brothers and sisters who are here right now,
please
do not waste your time in.
Benefit from your time. Learn the of Allah.
Learn the of Allah. Understand what can be
used as a. Somebody's gonna tell you, don't
listen to that sheikh, don't listen to that
person, don't don't go to that masjid.
And when you say to them, like, what's
the evidence for this? You'll say, do you
know Sheikh such and such has said that?
Is that an evidence in the eyes of
Allah?
If you don't know the deen,
you would think that's evidence,
But that's not an evidence.
Even if a Sahabi says such something, is
it gonna be an evidence? Is that is
that gonna be used as an evidence or
not?
If you don't know this knowledge, if you
don't know, Usul al Fakk,
people will just
manipulate
your mind,
and you will be confused.
Look
Look what you made me see today.
Okay? Well, I think this and honestly because
it's it's become so I've seen brothers. Even
the people who said bad things about me,
I wouldn't wish for them to become drug
dealers. SubhanAllah.
Wallahi, I don't. I'm not gonna say, ah,
you've done this to me. You're probably going
through this now because of what you said
to me 5 years ago. La Wallahi, that's
not something that I want to see. It
still hurts to see that or to even
know that.
It is a huge prevention. A lot of
people think SubhanAllah
that when you watch * or when you
watch Haram or you commit other types of
sins, this is what is going to prevent
you from knowledge. Even in Mu'taymul is Kitab
Dua, there's a whole section where he lists
some of the effects of sins. The first
thing he said was to
be deprived of knowledge.
Thai people say, yeah, yeah, I'm not watching
this. I'm not,
going after women as if that's the only
sin.
Backbiting,
speaking about others will hold you back from
knowledge. You know a statement that I came
across of Ibn Hajjar,
when he's speaking about,
he was doing the Tarjum
of Hafid ibn Senate
and you only get called Hafid when you
have what? A 100,000 Hadith.
You know what he said about him?
He
forgot the majority of what he memorized Quran
even he forgot the Quran
You know why?
Because you always speak about others, it was
the reason why he ended up forgetting everything.
So maybe you were protected from this kind
of sin but then you're sitting around this
guy's this guy's this guy's this guy's this
guy's this.
Even the mashaikh in Al Medina they got
tired
they got tired
up until they turned against one another
there was a group of Mashayikh
who would be the flag bearers for this
kind of thing
Even amongst them, they started fighting.
And people are just look spectating. We're just
looking. SubhanAllah.
We took a huge lesson from this. The
real winners in all of this was those
who didn't get involved and they just studied.
Absolutely. And now they're benefiting their people back
home.
Well I've seen a lot guys I've seen
a lot in Yemen
seen a lot in 60s in Medina
and it shook me to the core
If you can go through
your youth, just busying yourself of that,
busying yourself with Quran and, then allah Insha'Allah
you'll be naje.
And
as you have just heard,
my brothers and sisters, do not busy yourself
with.
This is very important message that I want
to share with all of you like the
sheikh has shared that message with you,
and concentrate on learning the deen yourself
without busying yourself with sheikh sheikh such and
such as said this and and that and
so forth from this sheikh and from this
masjid. Don't busy yourself with this stuff. And
if you see someone who's busy with this
stuff, stay away from them. If you see
someone who busies himself, even if he calls
himself a student of knowledge, and he is
busying himself refuting
and just saying, don't listen to that. Don't
listen to that. Don't go to that Masjid.
Don't be part of this, committee. Don't be
be part of that. If you see someone
who talks like that, you know what kind
of person this person is and how he's
going to end up with it, how his
life is going to end up.
The sheikh has given you some examples.
Those who have forgotten the all the knowledge
that they've learned, including the Quran because they
used to talk about other people.
Remember that.
And I told you, I just gave you
an example of someone who spoke, who talked
about my father, someone who said I am
going to refute he didn't even talk he
said I'm gonna refute your father if I
ever come to Sheffield.
That's that was the condition.
I will come to your masjid, to the
masjid of your city, but with one condition,
I'm going to refute the sheikh to begin
with.
That where is that person today? I ask
about him every now and then. I said,
where is he? He's he's nobody right now.
And he kept having family problem after family
problem after family problem. And if you look
deeply into the lives of these individuals, you
will see they have a lot of family
problems.
They cannot even remain married.
Those people who talk like that.
You know I remember the statement I thought
I'd share what Imam Shafi'i
mentioned he said
whoever wishes that Allah
opens his heart up for him
and he grants him Al Hikma he grants
him wisdom
upon him is to do the following
upon him is to spend a lot of
time privately with Allah
and to not eat a lot
and to stop hanging around with those who
are foolish, and look what he said
and even some people of knowledge
who are not fair and just and they
lack mannerism,
they lack Atticus
Subhanallah
well I came across this many years ago
and it really
made me reflect
he here is advising people not to go
to rakat who has knowledge but maybe you
will walk away with better tickets
or you will walk away with being extremely
unjust
now it made a lot of sense to
me because some
of the people that I personally have studied
with
they're not a lot,
but later on I came to see that
when he speaks about others it's done very
unfairly,
even though I still appreciate the knowledge that
he put forward,
the books that he taught, however I realized
okay
this kind of attitude is going to affect
students
that are ready to accept whatever he says
unrestrictedly,
unconditionally. There are people like that that ask
you a question, Sheikh, okay, what so and
so? Sheikh will say it. They'll translate and
they'll spread it
around all right and even though he's a
person of knowledge but that doesn't mean that
he's going to be Masoom, he is what
Infallible. He has no mistakes.
Sorry, guys. We just went off a little
bit here at the end. Yep. Is that
it? We'll
just
what do you think if we close it
with just one question? Is that okay? And
then we're gonna take a break and
you'll come back for
and that's when the kitab is going to
continue.
The final question is actually no question.
That's the final question.
There will be no question.
We just want to say,
our sheikh, and
we wanna say to
all of you guys, brothers and sisters who
attended and came to this conference.
This is the first night. We still have
some some some lessons to go or some
lectures to go or some sessions to go.
We still have after
the sheikh is gonna go through
He
started after today and he will finish it
tonight.
And how long do you think Sheikh is
gonna take us?
I'm very sick, guys. I'm honestly really trying
best to
to sit here. And not We're we're gonna
try and, shorten it.
Excellent. And just take the
the crooks of the matter as they say
in each of these 6 fundamentals,
and then we'll call it.
And so we want to say to all
of you who have attended the Masjid
is full of youngsters, my young brothers and
sisters. Also, I want to thank our media
team for what they have done so far.
Until we see you after
enjoy your evening. Have something to eat
Stay away from
You know where you're gonna end up. Okay?
You will be in the wrong side of
history.