Abu Taymiyyah – Do I Need Fathers Permission To Get Married

Abu Taymiyyah
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The speaker discusses the importance of balancing emotions and not leaving anyone at fault. They also advise parents to be patient with their father and not to disrespect anyone. The conversation then shifts to the topic of "has it been tried" and the speaker advises parents to be patient with their father and not to disrespect anyone.
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There's a number of aspects

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guys, guys, calm down.

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There's a number of aspects to take into

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consideration, guys, here.

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I think it's very, very important that we

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are balanced,

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and

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we're not left wing or right wing on

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this issue.

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1st and foremost, we have to understand why

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is he saying no.

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Is there anyone here that knows the reason

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why

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before I move on

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answering his question?

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Anyone have an idea? Let's say he's not

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rich. Maybe he's not rich.

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Well, you don't ask,

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guys.

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1st, you have to you have to inquire

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why he's saying no.

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Sometimes

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he may have

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a valid reason.

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Right? He doesn't have a problem with you

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marrying. It's just

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these guys have a reputation. I'll give you

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guys something. Right? And I hope he doesn't

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get me into trouble.

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Sometimes you find

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some brothers coming from the Gulf area.

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Right? Gulf is a bit more,

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We're not singling any country out, but they

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come from the Gulf area

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to

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these lands. Yeah.

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They're studying

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at university, Sahir.

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While he's here because of 4 years, man,

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with the fitna and everything, let me just,

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you know,

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pick out the sister, marry her, and then

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as soon as I'm done with my university,

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he dumps her.

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So, hey, does it happen?

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Without the shadow of a doubt?

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Okay.

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He wants to enjoy himself while he's there.

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He's got money.

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He's got the petrol dollars,

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rials,

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whatever else, dinars,

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and he wants to keep himself chased while

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he's here. Doesn't wanna fall into haram, so

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he said, you know what? I'm gonna get

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married.

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But he knows that his tribe back home

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is not going to allow

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him to marry an ejnabi, a foreigner.

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So before he leaves, you know, he just

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leaves her and then goes back and marries

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someone from his tribe.

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So when a father now,

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right, is telling you, listen, take this into

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consideration, I'm not comfortable with it, he has

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some valid grounds. Agreed?

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Not every time that a parent says no,

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it's always him just being

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stubborn

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or unmindful of the situation.

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I think that's valid

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reasons as to why he's actually, you know,

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preventing this from taking place. He's looking out

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for you, my sister.

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So bear that in

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mind. And it happened, well, it still happens.

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I've been to a lot of places. I've

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been to Ireland, I've been to Scotland,

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I've traveled the UK.

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Sisters have complained to me. Unfortunately, it's a

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situation that we have to be.

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Even

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I know in places like Morocco,

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anyone here from Morocco?

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Anyone from Morocco?

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That some of these brothers and I'm not

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saying all of them, let me just make

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this very clear, we can't generalize,

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they have a reputation over there,

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that they'll come, well, some of these guys

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will come, they'll marry their daughters, and then

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dump them haras, couple of weeks, he's gone.

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So then a father is just there looking

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out for his daughter.

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Does that make sense? That's the first scenario

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second scenario.

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He's saying no

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based on trivial

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issues or reasonings,

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right,

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that has absolutely no basis in Sharia,

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Oh, like, they might be from the same

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country, but a different tribe.

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I don't like this tribe.

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They did this to me 50 years ago

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back home,

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and now I'm going to not allow you

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to get married. Does it happen? Yes. It

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does.

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Right? I advise you, my sister, first and

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foremost, to be very patient with your father.

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Right?

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To make a lot of dua.

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If you can't have that conversation with him,

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look for someone that he respects,

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that can maybe

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have that conversation with him, maybe go through

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your mother or his brother, so on and

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so forth.

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Try to convince him. Remember

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how patient our parents were with us when

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we were young? Sahih.

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When we rebels,

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how many things would we do that was

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displeasing to our parents? But they were very

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patient and they never kicked us out.

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So I don't think it's right now to

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just throw in the towel.

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Be patient, make a lot of Dua, I

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honestly believe with 1 Dua that you make

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in the last 3rd of the night, the

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hearts can change, the Messenger Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam

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said,

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The hearts are between the fingers of Allah.

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Allah can change the hearts very, very quickly,

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remember that.

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Right?

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However,

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however, guys,

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if he's just being stubborn,

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right, he's not fulfilling his responsibility as a

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guardian.

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Right?

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I just don't wanna say yes.

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Right? He's not being understanding at all. There

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is a step that you could take

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that is

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within the Sharia guidelines,

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and Allah tells

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him, right?

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Do not

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prevent them from getting married,

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Don't do what,

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which means to just Khilasya and you dislocate

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her from getting married.

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If he's still being stubborn after you've tried

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and tried and impatient,

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you can go to

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a Sharia court.

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Right? And if there is one, the imam

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of a masjid or an institution,

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they have a system in place where they

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will eventually strip him off his wiliyah, his

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guardianship.

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Does that make sense guys? Yeah.

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No.

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It's this issue of wilayah guys, the guardianship,

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you can't just strip him off.

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Sometimes girls, walahi, they just say, oh, he

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doesn't follow the sunnah. You know what? Let

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me strip him off. Like, it doesn't work

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like that.

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Doesn't work like that, guys.

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Remember there was this case

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where the sister was saying, oh, my dad's

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a nikhwani.

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You guys know what nihwani

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is? Part of the political group called nihwani.

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So we asked her why. Oh, he watches

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all day.

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I fear Allah, my sister.

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Fear Allah.

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Right?

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The issue of is not a light matter,

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the messenger of salallahu alaihi wa sallam said,

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Any woman that gets married without the permission

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of a then

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the

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is said 3 times. Hanikah is invalid, it's

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like you're doing zina with him, if you

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decide to go ahead with that.

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You need his permission.

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Also he said

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There's no value in the except with the

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permission of the wari.

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Does that make sense?

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By the way, this is the position of

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the majority of the scholars. I know the

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hanafi madhab has a different

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position,

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but the 3 madhabs they say

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that she must have a wali,

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and you can see the evidences are pretty

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strong as well. I've really looked into the

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matter, and there's a reason why the majority

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of the scholars, they took that view.

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And we have a lot of respect for

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our imam, Imam Abu Hanifa tarahmatullahi alaihi.

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And I don't allow anyone to disrespect him.

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So that's my advice. I had to elaborate

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on

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that. Very common question all the time that

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I get. I went to Ireland.

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Ireland.

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And this was one of the most common

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questions.

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Are you were you with me? You you

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were there. Right?

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Was there.

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His name is Tarek.

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