Abdurraheem Green – The Belly of the Whale

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The transformation of human experiences is about the transformation of human experiences, not just a spiritual or physical transformation. The journey is a multi-channel process that cannot be just a thought or a feeling, but rather a physical transformation. The "naughty belly of the beast" is a consequence of discovering one's true potential and becoming a prophet. The "has been a mess" feeling is a consequence of discovering one's true love for Allah and fulfilling their dream. The "has been a challenge" and encourage others to be strong and transform themselves.

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			Assalamu
		
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			alaikum, brothers and sisters.
		
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			Today, we're gonna be talking about
		
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			the belly of the whale.
		
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			Yes. It's that stage in the hero's journey
		
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			where
		
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			there's no turning back.
		
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			One's crossed the threshold
		
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			and one encounters
		
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			something
		
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			that is so
		
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			deep, so shocking, so profound,
		
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			so immersive,
		
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			so transformative
		
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			that even if
		
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			you were to return
		
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			at this stage,
		
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			you wouldn't be the same.
		
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			What you see, you can't unsee. What you
		
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			experience
		
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			can't be undone. It's gonna change you in
		
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			some way, shape, or form.
		
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			And although
		
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			the next stage of the hero's journey
		
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			is which we will talk about in coming
		
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			weeks, is
		
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			about tests and
		
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			adventures and help along the way and various
		
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			other things.
		
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			This stage this stage of the journey is
		
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			all really ultimately about the transformation.
		
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			So, really, you can you can split you
		
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			can split the, you know, this, I the
		
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			hero's journey into into 3 parts,
		
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			3 general broad parts, and and one is
		
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			departure, which we talked about. We've talked about
		
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			that already.
		
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			So we talked about the, you know, the
		
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			normal world, the ordinary life that everybody lives,
		
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			the call to adventure,
		
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			the meeting of the mentor, and cross crossing
		
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			the threshold. And this is really so the
		
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			next stage is initiation. The next stage is
		
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			when you move into that realm, that different
		
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			it's almost like a different it is, in
		
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			reality, a different world.
		
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			And the whole point of all of these
		
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			experiences
		
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			ultimately,
		
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			although we tell them in stories and those
		
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			stories are real stories,
		
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			I'm sure some of these stories and these
		
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			myths are real things that actually happened.
		
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			Of course, we completely believe,
		
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			the stories of the Quran that they're real
		
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			things that actually happen.
		
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			But even in mythology,
		
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			there are things that may or may not
		
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			have happened. It doesn't matter. It's actually not
		
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			that important. What is really important is that
		
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			they all have something in common,
		
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			and that is the change that we human
		
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			beings are going through,
		
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			the trials and difficulties
		
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			that we go through in life
		
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			and what it does to us, how it
		
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			changes us, how it hopefully,
		
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			it should make us better,
		
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			improve us,
		
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			make us stronger,
		
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			make us more empathetic,
		
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			make us more compassionate,
		
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			make us more caring,
		
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			and make us yeah. I mean, that's it,
		
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			really. It's it's all about that transformation. So,
		
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			ultimately,
		
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			what we're talking about here so I
		
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			this entering the belly of the whale
		
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			is in a sense about
		
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			a deep transformation.
		
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			What you could call annihilation.
		
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			It's what in Buddhism is called nirvana.
		
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			And nirvana
		
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			doesn't mean enlightenment,
		
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			as some people think. It actually means annihilation.
		
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			And what it really is about is the
		
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			annihilation of the ego.
		
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			It is when
		
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			this
		
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			this the I
		
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			the belief
		
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			or the obsession
		
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			with yourself
		
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			ends,
		
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			and you realize ultimately
		
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			that yourself is not really worth that much,
		
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			that you are
		
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			really part of something much bigger, something much
		
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			more important,
		
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			that you are perhaps just a small cog
		
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			in the whole process,
		
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			of what makes everything work in this world.
		
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			So, yeah, this is what it's about ultimately.
		
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			So obviously the most famous story, the belly
		
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			of the whale, that we know about is,
		
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			you know, is about Eunice, or
		
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			we in English, it's called Jonah, Jonah and
		
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			the whale, Yunus alaihis salaam.
		
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			And, actually,
		
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			subhanallah, his story is exactly,
		
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			parallels in this particular case, that part of
		
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			the monomyth.
		
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			This universal experience that we find across cultures.
		
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			So what is happening? Well, let let's go
		
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			through a little bit the story of Eunice
		
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			and let's see how.
		
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			Maybe we can reflect upon that and see
		
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			what that has to do with our own
		
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			particular,
		
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			you know, journey in life or journeys. Because
		
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			as we said before, it's not necessarily just
		
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			one journey. It's not just necessarily
		
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			one experience.
		
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			We could be going through many different journeys,
		
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			in respect to different things, and we could
		
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			be at different stages all at the same
		
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			time, actually.
		
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			But this is for simplicity. We just break
		
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			it down into these tangible stories
		
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			that helps us to make sense of what
		
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			is happening to to us in our lives.
		
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			And sometimes it it just really helps us
		
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			to be able to say, okay. Well, I'm
		
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			going through this. And then when we see
		
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			and we know and we hear about other
		
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			humans who have gone through the same thing,
		
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			that's why we find it so fascinating.
		
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			That's why we find
		
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			these stories endlessly
		
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			fascinating because they are inspiration. They inspire us
		
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			and they move us and they motivate us
		
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			and they give us courage
		
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			and they help us to understand that if
		
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			these people went through all of that, we
		
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			can go through that
		
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			as well. So this is the reality of
		
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			the human experience. So Yunus alaihis salam, as
		
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			we know, he's a messenger of Allah. He
		
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			is, he's, you know, he's a Nabi. He's
		
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			a Rasul, actually,
		
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			and he's sent to the people of Nineveh.
		
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			Now that is a city, an ancient city
		
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			that goes back to Assyrian times.
		
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			At one time, it was one of the
		
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			largest cities in the world.
		
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			And, actually, this city existed in different forms
		
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			up until
		
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			the, you know, the the late middle ages
		
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			until it sort of fell into complete decline.
		
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			And, until a present day, it's just ruins.
		
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			The only final thing, actually,
		
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			the only remaining thing,
		
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			of that city
		
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			until recently
		
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			was a shrine
		
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			that was supposed to be
		
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			maybe the graveyard or the grave or some
		
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			shrine of Yunus alaihis salam.
		
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			And that itself was destroyed by ISIL or
		
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			ISIS
		
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			very recently,
		
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			as as maybe we know, and they also
		
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			destroyed some of the walls and so on
		
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			and so forth and
		
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			ransacked some of the,
		
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			archaeological
		
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			artifacts and so on and so forth. But,
		
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			anyway, that's the city that he was sent
		
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			to.
		
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			Of course, at the time,
		
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			they were very rebellious against Allah. They were
		
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			disobedient to Allah, and he was inviting them
		
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			and calling them to Islam.
		
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			And, unfortunately,
		
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			they did not listen to they did not
		
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			respond to his call. And Yunus was really,
		
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			like, the he was really angry, and he
		
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			was upset. And, basically,
		
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			he he left. He left in anger. He
		
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			left because he was really upset. They were
		
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			not listening to him.
		
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			And he left before Allah gave him the
		
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			go ahead. He left before,
		
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			Allah gave him permission. And I I guess
		
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			maybe he was just really angry. He'd really
		
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			just given up the idea that these people
		
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			weren't ever gonna listen to him. Allah knows
		
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			best. It doesn't matter
		
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			the exact details.
		
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			The point is that he left before Allah
		
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			gave him the go ahead and gave him
		
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			permission. He went on a boat. His idea
		
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			was to get as far away as possible.
		
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			And when they were on the sea, there
		
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			was a storm,
		
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			and the sailors being naturally, you know, a
		
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			superstitious
		
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			lot, they they well, actually, they considered that
		
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			there was someone on that ship who had
		
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			done a terrible some terrible, terrible deed. So
		
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			what they did is just they decided to
		
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			draw lots so that this would determine who
		
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			that person was, and the lot fell on,
		
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			on on Yunus alaihis salaam.
		
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			So either Yunus threw himself,
		
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			out of the ship, and as far as
		
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			I know, this happened three times. He drew
		
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			the lot.
		
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			So they considered this. This was it. He
		
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			is definitely the guy. This is not coincidence
		
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			anymore. So I think he threw himself off
		
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			the boat in the storm, and he was
		
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			swallowed by a whale. That is this is
		
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			always swallowed by a fish or a whale.
		
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			Allah knows what it is.
		
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			I was reading some interesting discussions about what
		
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			sort of a creature it may have been.
		
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			Apparently, the the only really likely candidate is
		
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			a blue whale whale, which actually could swallow
		
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			a human. And, apparently, the blue whale has
		
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			3 stomachs,
		
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			like a cow. I think a cow has
		
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			7 stomachs, but it has various stomachs. And
		
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			but, you know, anyway, norm a human being
		
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			couldn't normally survive in the whale of a
		
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			stomach, but then nor could a human being
		
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			survive in a fire, and Allah caused
		
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			Ibrahim
		
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			to survive the massive fire that he was
		
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			thrown into.
		
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			The point being, anyway, this is a type
		
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			of,
		
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			you know, this is something that Allah
		
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			sent,
		
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			by way of a trial and by way
		
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			of a test. As we know, Yunus,
		
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			when he found himself in this situation,
		
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			he and that Allah said he would have
		
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			left him there because, you know, he would
		
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			have left him there, but the Eunice was
		
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			making dua
		
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			and he was making tawba, and he's making
		
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			this beautiful dua that he was making,
		
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			seeking forgiveness from Allah, making tawba to Allah.
		
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			And so after 3 days that the the
		
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			whales
		
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			threw
		
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			threw Yunus out onto the shore,
		
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			and then Allah
		
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			caused the,
		
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			you know,
		
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			like a plant to grow over him and
		
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			a goat to appear to give him milk.
		
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			And,
		
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			and he got better, returned to his people,
		
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			and
		
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			his his people reformed and his people changed.
		
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			So
		
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			it's it's a
		
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			beautiful story,
		
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			in many ways, has so many benefits for
		
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			us, but, the you know, which we're not
		
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			gonna go into today, but the main point
		
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			being is that
		
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			it's the the the
		
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			it's the transformation.
		
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			It's what happens
		
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			to Yunus alaihis salaam
		
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			in the belly of the whale. And what
		
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			happens to him ultimately
		
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			is this it is that annihilation. It is
		
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			that complete self annihilation,
		
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			that realization then, this is the main point,
		
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			that there is no resource, there is no
		
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			refuge that is from Allah,
		
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			that there is nothing except complete
		
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			and total
		
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			submission and surrender
		
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			to the will of Allah And one is
		
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			not accusing,
		
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			you know, Eunice here of some major sin,
		
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			but we have to remember that what Allah
		
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			expects from his messengers is not what he
		
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			expects from you and me.
		
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			In the same way, we could say that,
		
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			you know, we we expect higher standards from
		
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			certain human beings. We don't expect everybody to
		
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			behave in the same way.
		
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			And we would look, for example, as the
		
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			transgression of a politician, for example, in office
		
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			who abuses their power,
		
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			you know, not not to be on the
		
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			same level as a dustman or, I don't
		
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			know, an an illiterate peasant. I mean, what
		
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			one expects higher standards
		
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			from a doctor, for example.
		
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			We don't expect,
		
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			doctors to betray their trusts and to inflict
		
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			harm knowingly
		
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			upon their patients.
		
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			We expect certain standards. And so, therefore, the
		
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			standards that is expected of the prophets is
		
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			very, very great.
		
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			And that's something that may be, for us,
		
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			totally,
		
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			understandable that Allah
		
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			would not even,
		
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			you know, even, subhanAllah, consider it something. But
		
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			for the for the prophets, the standard or
		
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			the level that Allah expects from them is
		
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			much higher.
		
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			So so the point being here is that
		
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			remember, Yunus has left
		
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			giving dua to his people without Allah giving
		
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			him permission.
		
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			And so it's in this and so this
		
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			is the now he is in the belly
		
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			of the whale. The belly of the whale
		
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			is this
		
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			it it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to
		
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			be the belly of a whale. It could
		
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			be anything. It is a place where your
		
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			soul turds
		
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			totally immersed
		
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			in that environment
		
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			that their the transformation
		
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			is inevitable.
		
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			So for Eunice in this situation,
		
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			it is his realization
		
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			that he is totally trapped. There is no
		
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			way out for him. There is no
		
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			resource. There is nothing for him except to
		
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			totally
		
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			do what
		
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			Allah,
		
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			you know, wants,
		
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			what Allah loves, what Allah expects.
		
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			There's no other path
		
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			for him to take.
		
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			And so but that of course, for most
		
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			of us that
		
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			this transformation can happen in many things. It
		
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			doesn't necessarily
		
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			have to be a spiritual
		
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			transformation. I was reading when I was reading
		
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			about this subject, for example,
		
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			one of the one of the people writing
		
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			about it was talking about The Beatles
		
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			and how they spent I don't I can't
		
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			remember, you know, 2 years
		
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			playing in these caverns, you know, in Hamburg,
		
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			and it was, like, hours and hours, 8,
		
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			9, 10 hours.
		
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			Every night they were playing and, you know,
		
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			it it it was this totally
		
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			immersive,
		
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			nonstop
		
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			type of experience and it transformed them. Similarly,
		
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			the way that people who want to learn
		
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			a language,
		
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			they go and they live
		
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			in the land where people speak that that
		
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			language and totally immerse themselves in that culture.
		
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			It could be anything. Anything that you want
		
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			to do
		
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			that you are so totally immersed and so
		
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			totally focused
		
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			in that realm that
		
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			it's gonna change you. It can't help accept
		
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			accept change you.
		
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			And part of it is that almost losing
		
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			yourself, the annihilation, that the fact that you
		
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			lose yourself
		
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			in the depth and the
		
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			density
		
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			of that activity in which
		
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			you know you're taking place.
		
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			I think in a sense we can see
		
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			in the life of the prophet sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wa sallam
		
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			this also happens but in perhaps a very
		
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			different way
		
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			and the transformation that is happening to Rasool
		
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			Allah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam is a little
		
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			bit different.
		
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			And that is the time when
		
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			after the prophet
		
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			got the first revelations,
		
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			then there was a break.
		
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			And, you know, the scholars differ about how
		
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			long this break in the revelation was, but
		
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			you you have to now imagine you have
		
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			to think about the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
		
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			sallam, the first revelation that he gets in
		
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			the cave of Hira. And maybe one could
		
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			think of the cave
		
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			itself,
		
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			as the equivalent in the monomyth of the
		
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			belly the belly of the whale, that place
		
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			of transformation.
		
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			But but,
		
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			maybe not. In this in the life of
		
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			the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, I don't think
		
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			so. I think it comes later
		
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			when the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam actually
		
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			when the revelation doesn't come to him anymore.
		
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			And, you know, in a sense, he begins
		
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			to sort of doubt himself. He begins to,
		
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			in a sense, doubt that experience
		
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			even according to,
		
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			some
		
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			some,
		
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			books of Sira and some scholars, the prophet
		
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			sallallahu alaihi wasallam, you know, he even
		
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			contemplates he even had a thought of killing
		
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			himself because he was so,
		
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			upset and frustrated and so that you know,
		
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			you you have to imagine
		
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			that, subhanAllah,
		
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			you see Jibril
		
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			filling the horizon.
		
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			You get this revelation, this, subhanAllah, that is
		
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			unlike
		
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			anything. The words are so powerful, and we
		
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			know that how the Quran, the power of
		
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			the Quran
		
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			transformed the Arabs when they used to hear
		
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			it. They would be
		
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			dumbstruck. They would people would become muslims just
		
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			listening to the quran.
		
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			So the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam is
		
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			receiving this revelation, this weight. He's experiencing all
		
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			of these things and then nothing nothing's happening.
		
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			And this, in a sense, is the same.
		
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			This
		
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			in a very very deep spiritual psychological way,
		
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			this in a sense is it was the
		
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			is the equivalent of the belly of the
		
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			whale because now the prophet
		
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			here has crossed the threshold.
		
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			He's gone into this
		
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			this whole different world. It's the same world.
		
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			Right? But spiritually and psychologically,
		
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			it's different. You understand? That's the main point.
		
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			And he this is the stage of initiation
		
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			where the prophet is
		
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			now really being initiated by Allah
		
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			into what it means to be a prophet.
		
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			The responsibility
		
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			of being a messenger. The responsibility of being
		
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			a Rasool
		
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			and all that comes with it. And so
		
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			this but Allah is doing this as the
		
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			scholars explained
		
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			to create this yearning in the heart of
		
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			the prophet
		
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			This yearning
		
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			for this
		
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			connection with Allah. This yearning to receive
		
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			the revelation.
		
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			And it's that yearning in the prophet
		
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			that is the transformation. That is the
		
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			ultra the the really, the the deep transformation
		
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			in a sense that that may be one
		
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			of the most difficult things the prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wa sallam is going through. Although
		
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			he he did mention, you know, for example,
		
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			when his journey to Ta'if,
		
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			similarly
		
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			as and this will be another example. It's
		
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			just another example that how in your journey
		
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			of
		
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			life there are not only maybe one of
		
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			these moments, there can be several of these
		
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			moments.
		
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			And I suppose that when the prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasallam, he goes to Ta'iv to give
		
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			dawah to the people there, this is another
		
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			similar moment.
		
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			But but I think
		
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			if I'm looking for one
		
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			thing in the life of the prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasallam
		
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			that really reflects this stage
		
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			of, you know, this the journey of the
		
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			true hero. And as we said before, before,
		
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			it's the greatest hero, the prophet sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wasallam really. And it doesn't need to be
		
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			there. Not every
		
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			journey of every hero is gonna go through
		
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			every single one of these stages anyway. It's
		
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			not, you know,
		
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			it's not the case, but but I think
		
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			we find the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam really
		
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			and you know amazingly this is what is
		
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			so one of the things that is so
		
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			powerful
		
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			about the light of the prophet
		
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			is that it brings together
		
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			so many elements of what we human beings
		
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			consider to be
		
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			admirable
		
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			and best and noble
		
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			in human being.
		
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			And we find that in the prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasallam. It's truly why, you know, his
		
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			sallallahu alaihi wasallam his life is is truly
		
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			remarkable and an inspiration and a motivation for
		
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			all of us.
		
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			So this is, you know, this is the
		
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			belly of the whale. The point being here
		
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			again is that 2 things are happening. Number
		
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			1 is the annihilation of your ego.
		
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			It is this place where you are
		
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			feeling totally helpless in a way. You are
		
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			totally
		
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			immersed,
		
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			in the experience of what is going on.
		
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			It is
		
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			the first step that is transformational,
		
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			and
		
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			there's no going back. Once you've entered the
		
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			belly of the whale, once you've gone into
		
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			that
		
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			place, it doesn't matter what happens to you
		
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			afterwards in the sense that you'll never be
		
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			the same.
		
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			You can't unsee what you've seen. You can't
		
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			unexperience
		
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			what you've experienced.
		
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			However hard you try, however hard you try,
		
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			it's always there.
		
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			So this is this is very important. It's
		
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			a very, very important stage. And, of course,
		
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			it may not be so dramatic
		
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			for everybody,
		
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			and, again, it's not necessarily
		
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			a literal
		
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			physical
		
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			experience. The key
		
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			to all of this is understanding that these
		
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			experiences
		
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			are
		
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			spiritual, and they are mental. And, of course,
		
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			of course, they can be physical as well.
		
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			Of course, they can be. So, brothers and
		
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			sisters, I wonder in your
		
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			life, in your journey, have you experienced something
		
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			like that? Have you experienced a I mean,
		
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			I can think if I think about myself,
		
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			possibly, you know, what was my moment
		
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			that I could, you know,
		
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			look
		
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			look at
		
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			as being similar
		
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			to that?
		
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			I I don't know.
		
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			The only thing that I can think of
		
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			I mean, there there are some things that
		
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			I can think of.
		
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			There there's one experience I had probably which
		
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			I'm not, you know, I I don't really
		
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			talk about it, but I had a very,
		
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			very,
		
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			very deep, very shocking, very
		
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			scary,
		
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			sort of spiritual experience that shook me up
		
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			really, really badly.
		
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			And and,
		
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			yeah, similarly, that a feeling of just
		
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			totally being unable to escape
		
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			Allah
		
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			But certainly in terms of I guess, maybe
		
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			this may come later on in the journey
		
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			of the you know, in in the hero's
		
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			journey. And we're all on the hero's journey,
		
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			by the way. I'm not saying I'm a
		
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			hero, but we're all on that journey. We
		
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			should all be anyway. Right? Because we all
		
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			hopefully
		
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			want to be heroic in some way. Truly
		
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			heroic, really, in the sense that we are
		
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			people of compassion
		
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			who are compelled
		
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			to transform ourselves and make ourselves better and
		
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			to transform the lives of others and make
		
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			their lives better. That's what it's all about,
		
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			brothers and sisters. Please, this is what it
		
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			is really about. Remember, it's not about the
		
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			ego. It's almost exactly the opposite.
		
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			It is about learning to be more selfless,
		
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			learning to be more compassionate,
		
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			learning
		
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			to care and give and sacrifice for the
		
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			sake of your fellow human beings.
		
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			I think for me, one of the, you
		
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			know, the really massive transformative moments for me
		
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			and something that really sticks out in my
		
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			mind until today
		
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			was when I was making,
		
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			when I was making
		
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			when I was making Hajj, when I made
		
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			Hajj for the first time, the first time
		
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			I went to Mecca.
		
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			And in a way, I suppose, it's almost
		
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			very different because I instead of going to
		
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			a place of darkness like the belly of
		
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			the whale or the cave, it's often
		
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			a very scary,
		
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			you know, the in the monomyth, it's often
		
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			a very scary, traumatic
		
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			place.
		
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			But for me, it was almost exactly the
		
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			opposite.
		
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			But
		
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			hear me out. Hear me out. And this
		
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			was to show how
		
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			you you have to think about this and
		
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			how different everybody's
		
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			experiences
		
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			could be. Right?
		
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			So for me, when I made Hajj,
		
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			I remember when I first got to Mecca,
		
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			when I got to Masjid Al Haram, when
		
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			I went to into the Masjid,
		
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			And I was walking through the Masjid going
		
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			towards the Kaaba.
		
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			And I remember it was at night, so
		
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			the Kaaba was all lit up with floodlights.
		
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			And, honestly, it looked totally surreal. It just
		
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			seemed as if the Kaaba
		
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			was on a movie screen. It didn't look
		
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			real to me. It looked really surreal. It
		
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			just looked like almost like it was a
		
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			picture there.
		
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			And I feel I didn't feel really connected
		
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			to it.
		
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			So but what happened, it was this moment
		
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			when I
		
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			stepped down from being in the masjid into,
		
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			the that wide open space that is around
		
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			the Kaaba.
		
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			And, of course, there were all those thousands
		
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			and thousands of people making tawaf. Right? So
		
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			this is it. It's me stepping into this
		
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			massive
		
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			whirlpool
		
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			of, you know, this throng
		
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			of humanity.
		
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			Now so hear me out.
		
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			Why would this be, you know, an equivalent?
		
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			Why would this be so? Because this for
		
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			me was very challenging. You have to understand.
		
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			Right?
		
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			As someone who's coming from the Western, you
		
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			have to think therefore
		
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			of very much a person who is imbibed
		
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			with the ideas of individuality, of individual
		
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			heroism,
		
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			very you know, these very individualistic
		
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			ideas and very, I suppose,
		
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			self centered ideas
		
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			about yourself
		
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			almost being the center of everything.
		
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			And, really, that's in a sense that is
		
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			something that permeates
		
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			western culture very, very strongly.
		
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			And and so and then the idea of
		
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			individuality,
		
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			the idea of exclusivity,
		
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			you know, that something that's also
		
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			very often,
		
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			how can I say, imbibed in the ideas
		
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			of particularly white people is this idea of
		
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			superiority,
		
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			civilizational,
		
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			social,
		
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			maybe even mental superiority,
		
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			feeling somehow better than people because, you know,
		
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			maybe you're European, you're you're British or whatever?
		
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			So all of these things. So you have
		
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			to remember, this is my baggage that I'm
		
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			carrying.
		
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			And so I am stepping down into this
		
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			throng of people.
		
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			Now why is this transform transformative? Because it's
		
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			that moment
		
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			when I am
		
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			dressed in these two garments.
		
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			Right, this cloth,
		
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			these 2 pieces of cloth,
		
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			I don't have any exceptional clothing. I don't
		
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			there's nothing exceptional about what I'm wearing. Nothing
		
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			exceptional about a book because we're all dressed
		
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			the same way.
		
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			And then
		
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			you are in I just
		
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			stepped into this throng of human beings,
		
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			and everyone was making.
		
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			And it was at that moment that there
		
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			was this realization. That's where that's where there
		
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			was this annihilation for me.
		
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			This annihilation
		
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			of my ego,
		
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			you know, in the sense that I realized
		
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			that who was I? I wasn't really anything.
		
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			I it was this this realization
		
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			of how actually insignificant
		
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			I was
		
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			and that
		
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			amongst all of these people, all of them
		
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			there, all of them worshiping Allah, all of
		
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			them who had made this great journey, this
		
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			grace great sacrifice to come on hajj, to
		
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			come to the house of our lost ones.
		
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			And many of them obviously sacrificed way way
		
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			more
		
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			way more than I had, more than I
		
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			could even imagine some of them. I I
		
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			I know that.
		
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			And then what was I amongst all of
		
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			those people? What did it mean to be
		
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			white or to be British or to have
		
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			a British passport or any other of the
		
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			number of things that we think are so
		
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			important. I just realized it it was that
		
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			moment I realized it was all nothing. It
		
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			just didn't mean anything.
		
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			The only thing that was really important
		
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			was
		
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			my heart.
		
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			Was my heart pure?
		
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			Did I really love Allah? Did Allah love
		
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			me?
		
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			Was I really worshiping and
		
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			in awe and in reverence of Allah
		
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			That, I realized,
		
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			was the only thing that's really important. Nothing
		
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			else matters.
		
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			Nothing else matters.
		
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			That was it for me.
		
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			And,
		
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			yeah, Hajj
		
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			was a challenge. There's no doubt. It was
		
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			challenging.
		
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			And,
		
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			it wasn't some
		
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			I mean, I I definitely didn't have the
		
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			hardest time. I saw people
		
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			sleeping on bits of cardboard by the
		
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			side of the road,
		
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			and
		
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			some things. I'd never wanted to forget
		
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			those things.
		
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			And I didn't I didn't wanna forget them
		
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			because I thought I always wanna remember
		
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			how much people
		
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			sacrifice for their love of Allah
		
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			and their just their desire
		
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			to fulfill this pillar of Islam even though
		
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			maybe they didn't even have to.
		
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			Maybe they didn't have to. They just wanted
		
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			to
		
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			because you can't imagine that some of these
		
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			people actually
		
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			had enough money. They must've they saved
		
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			everything they had maybe
		
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			just to be able to make this journey.
		
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			For me, I made it because I happen
		
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			to have the money, and
		
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			I had to as far as I was
		
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			concerned. You know? If I had the money,
		
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			I had to make it.
		
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			So, yeah, Hajj for me
		
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			was, in a sense, definitely
		
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			that part of that moment.
		
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			And, yeah, no turning back from that.
		
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			No unseeing
		
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			what you've seen.
		
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			No
		
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			no way to disentangle
		
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			yourself from that. Not that you'd want to.
		
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			Maybe some people would want to.
		
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			Unfortunately,
		
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			they do. People backslide and
		
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			go so far, and they backslide so far
		
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			that
		
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			it's almost like they they hide and lie
		
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			to themselves. But you can't. And and that's
		
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			the point, brothers and sisters. That's the point
		
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			about this journey.
		
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			Of course, you can fail.
		
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			Otherwise, it wouldn't be heroic.
		
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			If everyone made it, we wouldn't look at
		
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			it as something amazing, and we wouldn't be
		
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			fascinated by these stories
		
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			because we're not fascinated by what's common. We're
		
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			not fascinated by what's normal.
		
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			We're fascinated by what is extraordinary.
		
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			We're fascinated by what is
		
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			different. We're fascinated by people who have gone
		
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			beyond what the rest of us can do,
		
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			have pushed themselves,
		
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			who have,
		
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			yeah, they've pushed themselves, and they've reached a
		
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			different plane. They've reached a different level. They've
		
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			reached a different stage.
		
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			And but we can all do it in
		
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			some way, shape, or form. Believe me.
		
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			Almost everybody
		
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			can do something
		
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			that some people
		
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			will look at and consider.
		
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			That's amazing.
		
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			That's what it's about, brothers and sisters.
		
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			Be the hero of your own journey. Be
		
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			a true hero. Of course, in in the
		
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			light of Islam,
		
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			that's what we want to understand,
		
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			what this journey is really about.
		
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			And we'll be exploring more of it in
		
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			weeks to come inshallah.
		
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			But yes,
		
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			that's the belly of the whale, brothers and
		
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			sisters. So until next week,
		
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			maybe you can share with me on some
		
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			of the comments about your experiences. Do you
		
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			think you've gone into the the belly of
		
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			the whale? Have you
		
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			immersed yourselves
		
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			in something
		
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			so
		
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			completely
		
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			that it's changed you and transformed you.
		
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			It could be many things. It doesn't need
		
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			to necessarily be a religious,
		
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			thing or
		
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			spiritual thing. It could be a physical thing.
		
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			It could be you you became really good
		
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			at some skill
		
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			through,
		
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			I don't know, 5 years of nonstop working
		
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			at it? How do these guys who are
		
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			entrepreneurs I guess, again, like, it's not that
		
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			we
		
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			are
		
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			so fascinated
		
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			by entrepreneurs
		
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			because they're rich.
		
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			You know, that's not that's really not. Like,
		
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			why why do people find Elon Musk, for
		
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			example, so fascinating? Is it because he's the
		
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			richest man in the world? I don't think
		
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			so because there's plenty of people who are
		
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			rich.
		
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			Are we fascinated by the Sultan of Brunei
		
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			or, you know,
		
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			you know, Mohammed bin Salman
		
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			or any of these people who
		
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			basically inherited their wealth? Is there anything fascinating
		
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			really about them? Not really. Yeah.
		
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			Maybe for some unsavory reasons or,
		
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			you know, but
		
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			not really because we know they just
		
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			got it passed on from them, you know,
		
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			their parents.
		
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			Like, you know, wow. Yeah.
		
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			Big deal.
		
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			But someone who,
		
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			really worked and worked and, you know, like,
		
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			legendarily,
		
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			Elon Musk slept. You know? He says he
		
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			slept in the factory, and he he just
		
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			he didn't even go to bed. He just
		
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			slept on the couch in the factory. He
		
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			was working so hard nonstop.
		
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			It's that type of thing. That's what fascinates
		
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			us.
		
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			That's what gets us.
		
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			When a person pushes themselves
		
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			so far and so hard,
		
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			and then they come out on the other
		
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			side,
		
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			and they're changed and they're transformed, and they
		
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			do something to change and transform our world.
		
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			But it it doesn't need to be
		
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			something so huge and big. Maybe you've just
		
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			done that in your local community, in your
		
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			family.
		
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			Maybe
		
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			something
		
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			that you've done for yourself
		
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			that no one knows about. Just you and
		
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			Allah and the angels writing your deeds.
		
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			That's what's important at the end of the
		
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			day. Until next time, brothers and sisters. Thank
		
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			you for joining me. May Allah bless
		
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			you. May Allah keep you safe.
		
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			And, may Allah help you on your journey.