Deceit Of Atheism

Abdurraheem Green

Channel: Abdurraheem Green

Topics: Comparative Religion

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Allah guides, no one can misguide. But whomsoever Allah leaves to go astray, no one can go.

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atheism

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is a term claim

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Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

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All praise belongs to Allah and Allah alone.

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And may his peace and blessings be upon His Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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I welcome you dear guests of the Dubai International Peace convention back to this next session

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where inshallah we will have our share up to him green from the UK, addressing us

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nowadays, we spend so much time focusing on the world's religions

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that we overlook those who don't have any religion at all. Atheists

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out speaker insha Allah will shed light on the topic of the deceit of atheism.

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Shahab Raheem green is enormously popular for his lectures at the famous speakers corner in London.

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In addition to his outstanding work with PCV, and Islam channel.

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Early on in his life, he became disillusioned by society's prioritization of material wealth above spiritual wealth.

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Today, his lectures and TV appearances have led many into the riches of true enlightenment in the Islamic faith.

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Now, many of us may have only had one religion for our entire lives. But having been given an early Christian background in Tanzania and the UK, Chair habra, Haim offers unique insights from both sides of the coin, the Muslim as well as the non Muslim perspective.

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It is interesting to note that although atheists do not believe in Gods money has almost become as a god to many people

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to explore atheism in greater detail, it is my great honor to welcome our dear share ultra him green from the UK, addressing us on the topic of the seeds of atheism

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Rahmani

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Alhamdulillah Nash madona Stein on istockphoto

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now the belay even surely and fusina woman Surya Malina,

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Maria de la who Fela Medina la

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Wilma UDL follow her Deanna was shadow and La ilaha illallah wa shadow Mohammedan, Abu rasuluh wa, we begin by praising Allah,

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we praise Him,

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we seek His help

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and we ask for his forgiveness.

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And we take refuge with Allah from the evil of ourselves, and from the evil consequence

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of our evil actions.

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Whomsoever Allah guides,

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no one can misguide.

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But whomsoever Allah leaves to go astray, no one can guide and I testify that Allah alone is worthy of

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worship,

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and that Mohammed sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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is his servant and His Messenger.

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Why would somebody

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be an atheist?

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Why would somebody choose

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a belief system

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that declares, there is no creator of this universe.

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And this is the first point that I want to make to all of you

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that atheism is a truth claim.

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atheism is a truth claim. In other words,

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atheists are taking a position about something.

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an agnostic, is someone who says, I don't know whether there's a god or not. an agnostic, is someone who says, maybe there's a God, maybe there's not a god, I don't know. The evidence is not convincing to me either way.

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But an atheist is different.

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An atheist declares that God does not exist.

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The atheist declares that he or she knows that's the implication, they know that God does not exist. And what I want to examine is what is the basis of this knowledge? What is the basis of this claim? What an atheist is claiming that God does not exist or they know that God exists? Or they are convinced that God does not exist? What leads them what makes them adopt this claim? What makes them take this position? Now, my good friend

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and colleague,

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Hamza sources,

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we call him, the Muslim Aristotle.

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We call him that Mashallah not just because he's Greek. Originally, he's Greek, and he's a convert to Islam. But also,

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he is very knowledgeable in the field of

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philosophy.

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And he has done many debates

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with atheists, leading atheists in the world.

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including, for example, Ed Wagner, who is the head of the humanist and atheist society in the United States of America.

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Dan Barker, who is a former Christian evangelical, who's turned his evangelism now to atheism, and many others, that Hamza has debated

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both publicly and you can see these debates.

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If you want to go to our website, our AI era website, you can follow the links to those debates and watch them if this is a topic that interests you.

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What Hamzah concluded, and it's similar to what I have concluded after many, many years of giving down

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that most people who are atheists are not atheists because

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their belief is rational. No.

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And all you have to do my dear brothers and sisters, is watch some of Hamza's debates with these leading atheists in the world. And believe me, you will be disappointed. You will be very disappointed, not with Hamza Alhamdulillah.

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But you'll be disappointed because atheists have somehow managed to convince many people

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that atheism is a type of rational choice. It's the default position of the scientist and the academic and the intellectual.

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So a lot of people today imagine

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that most scientists are atheists and this alone. Just this

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makes people sit up and take the claim of atheism. Seriously.

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Even myself in my many years as a Muslim

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my Mashallah probably now. 25 years on hamdulillah as a Muslim,

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I've been a Muslim now longer than I was a non Muslim.

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I have fought a battle

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This subject a lot?

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How can we prove the existence of Allah

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examining the arguments of the atheists. But as the title of today's talk suggests,

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I have concluded there is a type of deceit going on.

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That claim to be rational and intellectual, is by and large a false claim. I would conclude and Hamza has concluded that most atheists

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are atheists, because of emotional reasons, not because of rational reasons. Two most obvious reasons for a person to be an atheist, and there are others there are other reasons. But the two most apparent reasons for a person to be an atheist

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is number one, the person feels

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that God has let them down.

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And this is what both me and my colleague comes up through experience, we have found that a lot of people and this is often people who are formerly religious, become atheist, because they feel that God has let them down. I used to pray, they would say, I used to be religious, I used to believe in God, but then such and such thing happened to be in my life. Such and such difficulty came to me in my life. How could God do that to me? How could God sit there, and let me face this difficulty he should have rescued me he should have saved me, he should have taken me away from this. In other words, they experienced some difficulty in their life.

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And they feel that perhaps they feel they are so special, that God should have looked after them.

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And this itself, of course, comes from a wrong concept of God and a wrong concept of our relationship with God.

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As we Muslims know, life is a test. As Allah subhanho wa Taala mentioned in the Quran, Allah The Hala moto when hired Leah bluerock, whom are you? So new hammer Allah wa who will Aziza for in the end, the creator, Allah, the creator is telling us,

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that I have created life and I have created death, I have created death under the Holocaust.

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I have not created death and life except to test except to see which of you is best in conduct. And he is Aziz, he is the mighty hand he is a four, he is the Forgiving, so life is a test.

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The nature

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of the test is that there will be hardship and there will be ease. There will be difficulties, there will be hardships, there will be illnesses, there will be sicknesses indeed in the Quran, Allah is telling us, do you think that I would leave you saying you believe without testing you as we tested those who came before you.

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So we will be tested. And the fact that we claim to be believers in God does not mean we will stop being tested. No. In fact, we know from the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu, alayhi wasallam that a lot of tests, the ones he loves, and the ones he loves the most, he tests them the most.

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Because it is through this process of being tested, that we as human beings become refined, that is how we learn to improve. That is how we become better.

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That is how our character and our personality and our disposition.

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If we are patient,

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if we see the test through then we become better human beings.

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It is like the process of purifying the oil of a metal. In order to get the pure metal you have to purify the oil you have to extract the pure metal from the dirts and from the oil that surrounds it

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and

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Through this process, the purification takes place. So a lot of atheists have this problem, that if there is a God, how come he let this happen to me.

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But this is not rational. It's not rational. This is emotional,

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emotional,

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if you think about it.

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And what I will do is go through the rational arguments of God's existence, and we will see that there are very, very strong rational arguments, very good reasons to believe that this universe has a creator.

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And then we will examine in sha Allah, some of the arguments of the atheists, and we will also find out

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that their arguments are not strong arguments at all. But I gave one reason. So the first reason why

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out of the two major reasons that a person becomes an atheist.

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And notice, I say, becomes an atheist.

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Because the first topic I want to discuss a very interesting topic is that believing in God is actually natural and instinctive for human beings.

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So becoming an atheist is a decision that a person takes human beings are naturally born, believing in the Creator.

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It's our environment and circumstances that take us away from that atheism is an acquired position. It's not a natural one.

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It's unnatural.

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The second reason, the second reason why people become atheists,

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is because they simply don't like the idea of having to live by rules, other than the rules they make for themselves.

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They don't like the idea that they are going to be held accountable. They don't like the idea

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that there are some things a human being should do, and some things that human beings should not do. And that the only being that has the right and the knowledge

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to tell human beings that is the creator. In other words, what attracts the atheist is what they imagined to be freedom, I say they imagined it to be freedom.

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And with this, there are many other reasons as well.

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There are some historical reasons, especially for scientists, the conflict between the Roman Catholic Church and science has for many scientists, marred the position of religion visit is science.

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And you particularly think of the way that Galileo was treated.

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And for many scientists, this has meant that the church which for them the Catholic Church represents religion, is against science.

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And that the church has not given scientists the freedom to explore

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and to develop different theories.

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And I think, by the way, brothers and sisters as Muslims, that should be as a side point, a cautionary tale for us. Because of course, in our civilization, we have not had that conflict between science and religion. In our civilization, in fact, we find that science was promoted, science was encouraged, indeed, according to some Western scholars and intellectuals.

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The scientific process itself what we call the scientific methodology, was something the Muslims invented and the Muslims introduced.

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And people in the West learn that process from the Muslims.

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So I think it's important that we, as Muslims, are very cautious about creating or exaggerating a conflict between religion and science. But of course, if the scientific community is going to decide to take atheism as its position of choice, it's going to become very hard to avoid such a conflict. But I think the reality is that first of all, the claim that most scientists are atheist is not true. It is simply not true. In fact, if you look at some of the greatest

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minds in science, like Albert Einstein, it is very clear from reading Albert Einstein that he believed in the existence of a creator.

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Newton,

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of course, who is famous.

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In many ways, he's one of the giants of science, also believed in the existence of a creator. And interestingly enough for many years of Darwin's life,

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he also believed that there was a god.

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It's only towards the end that it seemed that he expressed doubts about that.

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So this claim that the scientific community is a atheist community is not really a true claim at all.

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Now, my dear brothers and sisters, what I want to do is I want to go through some of the arguments that are put forward by people who believe that the creator exists.

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And I want to introduce a set of arguments, or a direction of discussion that is quite new.

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And the reason I want to introduce this is that there has been a very major piece of research done recently

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in Oxford,

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by the Society for mind and anthropology, or anthropology in mind, who did a 1.9 million pounds they spent on this research. As far as I remember, there were over 60 academics involved in this research from all over the world. So this was a major piece of scientific research

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in the realm of human psychology, and anthropology.

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And after many years,

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they concluded

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that the belief in God, the religious belief, and the belief in the afterlife, is not something that is taught by our parents. It is something instinctive and natural in the human being, that in fact, the very human thought process itself is shaped by religious values.

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This is very significant.

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Because of course, this agrees

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with exactly what Islam has been saying.

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That every human being is born upon the fitrah. In other words, every human being is the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, is naturally inclined to worship god alone. And as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, It is only our parents, that make us diverged away from that natural inclination to single out God for worship, and make us followers of different religions, or no religion at all. So this is the nature of the human being. And it's interesting that this very extensive piece of research has confirmed that

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now, this is something in our instinct. And we all have instincts. Animals, by the way, operate on instinct, what makes the human being different from the animal is that the human being has reason, we have the ability to reason whereas animals, they rely upon instincts.

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And we have also what we call reflex actions. So for example, if I pick up something that is hot, Mashallah, what an but something that is very hot, I don't have to think there's no process in my brain saying, this is very hot, I must drop it. No, you do it instinctively, you drop it instinctively. This is a reflex action.

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This is something that is not rational. This is just something that is part of our intrinsic makeup. In order to keep on holding something hot, you have to train yourself, you have to learn to bypass your normal instinct in which a human being can do, we can learn to bypass those reflex actions and force ourselves to hold our hot coal. This is unique to human beings.

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Consciousness, that ability to use our mind to override our instinctive reaction.

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However, this instinct is there, and the belief in God is instinctive. What is the

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proof. What is the proof of this?

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It's very interesting that one of the what we can call the high priests of atheism, Richard Dawkins, was recently on

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a TV show. And he was being interviewed. And he was saying in this interview, you know, most Christians, they don't know anything about their Bible. They just don't know about their book. So the interviewer said, Okay, that's interesting. You believe, Mr. Dawkins, you're a big fan of Darwin, aren't you? Of course, yes. Darwin's very important. Could you tell me the full title of his book, The origin of the species? And Richard Dawkins started going,

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Oh, God.

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He said,

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he said, Oh, God.

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So he found that this atheist or this renowned atheist is being put in a difficult situation. He doesn't know the answer. And he ends up going, Oh, God, like, oh, God help me, what am I going to say?

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And this is a guy who says he doesn't believe in God.

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And actually, this is instinctive.

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This is instinctive. Allah gives the example in the Quran.

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Allah gives the example in the Quran. Of those people who go on a boat.

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And they go on the boat expecting to do trade and expecting to buy and sell that go on to this boat. And when they go out to sea, there is a great storm.

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And Allah describes in the Quran, how the waves are coming over them, like the roof of a tent, can you imagine huge waves crashing down on top of you.

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Now, for a bit, the human being will think, okay, the boat is gonna save me, the boat is well built, the boat will sail, or maybe they think that Captain will save me. But when the boat starts to disintegrate to break apart, and the captain gets washed over Sure.

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What do they do?

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What do they do?

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They start calling upon the Creator.

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They start saying, oh, God help me. And when they say, Oh, God, it is not the point. The name is not important, whether they say God or Allah or Buddha or whatever, no, the name is not important. It's the concept that is important.

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What are they calling to conceptually, conceptually in their minds, they are calling upon the being, which they know instinctively have power over everything in the universe. That's the one that they according to, they know that a being exists instinctively, that can rescue them. And it has the power and the ability to save them from their difficulty. This is the point not the name. But the point is the concepts. And this is important,

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because this being they are calling upon instinctively is not part of the universe.

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They are not calling upon something that is part of the universe.

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Nor is this being the universe collected together entirely. No.

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This is a being they know is distinct and separate from the universe who has power over it.

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This of course, is Allah. This, of course, is the creator.

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So this instinctive knowledge, which is major scientific survey now has found is an intrinsic part

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of our thought process as human beings.

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So this is very important, because actually, we could almost finish there. We could say, to any atheist, you know, there's a God, you know it, it's in your nature, every single one of you knows it, and actually this is the reality. Allah says in the Quran and tells us the meaning of which is that I will show them my signs within themselves on the furthest horizons until they know that this Quran is the truth.

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So Allah will show the signs.

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He will show them

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however, the beauty of our Deen Islam, one of the very beautiful things about

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Our Dean is martial law, it is rational.

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It is a beautiful rational religion, it makes so much sense.

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And when we look at our universe, and when we look at the world around us, we can see that the universe and the world works according to laws. It has within it systems. In fact, they are very, very complex, very intricate systems.

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There is such an amazing balance, and conditions are so precise for life to be able to exist.

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I don't have time, unfortunately, to go into these details, because my time is running out. But what I can suggest you do is you could get hold of this book that we produce is called the man in the red underpants.

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What's the man in the red underpants? Well, I suggest you read it, inshallah, it's very easy, you can download it from the internet, all you need to do is go to our one reason, one reason.org www dot one reason.org, which is a website that is run by my organization I era, which is forgiving down to non Muslims. And you can download it there. And you'll find some amazing information about the fine tuning of the universe, how the universe is so precisely tune in order for life to exist. If the force of gravity was different by even a minute amount, a minute amount, for example, you know, one to 110 95, that's the proportion. If it was different, the force of gravity by that my new

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amount, the universe would not exist, it would not exist as we know it in a way that could support life. And there are so many things like this, that we can look at what we see as systems, we see the universe, we see the world now, isn't it rational? Isn't the most rational position that if we see something, working according to laws working according to systems, that there must be something with power and intelligence that has made those rules and made those systems through which and by which everything can run.

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If I was walking along on the desert, here in Abu Dhabi, I know this is Dubai, but I'm just saying Abu Dhabi, because Abu Dhabi has oil, right. Okay. So I was walking along, right in Abu Dhabi, in the desert, right. And I came across an iPad, or something that like my iPad, made of water, glass, and plastic and bits of metal. And I picked it up and I said to myself, okay, this is a product of billions of years of random events. Yeah, the sunshine, the wind blew the sand, you know, the oil bubbles. And you know, the lightning struck. And after billions and billions of years of the sand moving around, we got glass and we got plastic and the iPad was formed. The ridiculous no one would

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take you seriously. It's not rational.

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It's not rational. It's not any more rational to claim that an organized systemized universe is a product of random events. It's not rational.

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Rather, the most rational conclusion is that our universe has a creator and this creator is powerful, wise and intelligent. Now there are a few contentions that you find the most popular contentions that atheists bring.

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Number one is what they call the problem of evil. If there is a God, how come there is so much suffering in the world?

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You heard that one before, right? Where is this God? children are dying women are dying, there are earthquakes there is disease. Where is this God? How can you let it happen? However, we soon realized with a bit of thinking that this is not a rational argument. This is an emotional arc. It's based upon emotion.

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Because the reasons for believing that the universe has a creator are clear, we live in an organized systemized universe, where we see organization where we see systems it's rational to conclude that there is power and will and intelligence behind it. So the existence of suffering has got nothing to do with whether there is a creator or not. It's a different question. Actually, the question is, why does God let these things

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happen. It doesn't prove or it doesn't say anything about whether God exists or not. But it is a question of why. And the only way we can answer that question Why is when God tells us.

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In fact, this very question itself leads the rational mind to conclude that we need revelation. We need God to tell us, why is our life the way it is? What is the purpose of our life? What is the reason of our existence? So it's very interesting that the very question of evil and suffering

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in the world is a question that should lead us to believe

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not only that there is a God, because the issue has got nothing to do with whether the creator exists, but it's an issue to do with why Oh, God, why why do you let these things happen? The only way we can know is if God has revealed that guidance to us.

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And that is a very, very powerful argument for the need for revelation with the need for God to give this guidance to us. But anyway, inshallah maybe we can cover some of the rest of the stuff in the question and answer session jazak Allah salaam aleikum, WA.

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JAL Sokoloff a Shahab Rahim green. So now we have come to the time for the question and answer session. As always, we have a mic to the left, or the brothers and one in the rear for the sisters. So if we're ready, insha Allah will have the first question from the mic on the left hand side.

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Salaam Alaikum.

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My name is Amen. And I just wanted to ask, many people are born in the West and opponents, atheist families, and also many of born in the Muslim families. But why is it that Muslims who may not even pray and do any, you know, do much but they just merely believe? Why is it that they go to heaven? But the atheists don't? Even though they're just following what their parents told them? I'm just wondering, I mean, where did you get that information from? From past experiences? And okay, but it's not from the Quran, right? No, no, of course. Okay. So the thing is, amen is that as Muslims, and I think as rational human beings, what we should do is if we want to know what a religion says,

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we need to examine the teachings of the religion, not the behavior, or what some people happen to say, who claim to follow that religion? Yeah, that's the problem. Okay, I don't think we can judge Islam by what Muslims say and do any more than we could judge Christianity or Buddhism, by what Buddhists or Christians claim to say and do, it may represent it, it may not represent it. But if we really want to know what the religion teaches, then we have to go to the book itself. Right. And I certainly wouldn't agree with the statement that someone is born into a Muslim family, they don't practice their religion at all, and they're going to go to Paradise.

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Whereas someone who is born into an atheist family, they're just going to go to hell.

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Because God is just, this is what we believe we believe that God is just and the creator will judge everybody, justly.

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So a person, for example, who never heard about God's religion, they never heard about the poor, and they never heard the true teachings of Prophet Mohammed, is God going to say to that person on the day of judgment? Why didn't you pray? Why didn't you force? Why didn't you give this card? The regulated charity? Why didn't you make a pilgrimage to Mecca? No, if this person had no knowledge of it, then justly God is not going to ask that person about those things. Because they had no knowledge that would be unfair, that would be unjust. Okay. Whereas there may be a Muslim, who was surrounded by people reminding this Muslim, that they should do this and they should not do that.

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And this is what the religion teaches. Every human being still has to make a man that conscious decision. Even if they are born into a Muslim family, there still has to come a time when they make a conscious, rational decision to be a Muslim. However, what we would say is

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Is that

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Islam is a natural way, the core belief of the Muslim is natural. So a Muslim doesn't have to think deeply and intellectually about their belief system, because it's very natural. It's a normal and unnatural belief system. Whereas perhaps somebody in the West who is bought in an atheist family may have to seriously intellectually, think about everything. But then generally people who live in the West, in that type of environment, have that type of education where they are encouraged to think about things intellectually. The point being, a man is at the end of the day, God is just He will judge everybody just to the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he goes, peace and

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blessings be upon him said that on the Day of Judgment, they will come groups of people, and they will have excuses. One of them will say that when the message of Islam came to me, I was too old. Or another one will say, I came at a time when there was no messenger, that message was not clear, it was confused. And another one will claim perhaps that they are insane, or that they were too young. So these groups of people will come. So God will give them a test on the Day of Judgment. On the day of judgment, God will give them a test. If they fulfill that test, and they obey God, then it shows that in this life, if the message had reached them, they would have obeyed God in His Messenger. If

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they don't, then it shows that they wouldn't have. Yeah. So the point being, is that we believe that God would treat everybody just and it's not just by circumstance or luck of birth, but you happen to go to Paradise and you happen to go to hell, not at all, we don't believe that.

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inshallah, we'll have the next question from the sisters Mike in the Rio go ahead system.

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My question is just related to what the brothers us, we know all that God's just and no unjust will happen to any person. But when I talk to my atheist friends online, and in person, that question that I cannot answer is once the just when I become Muslim, and everything is easy, because I was born in this side of the world, or I were born in this family. I know you just answered that, about the people who's born an atheist family and such. But the question is, what should I tell them? Precisely? If I tell them that God's just and they will be answered in the adjustment day? They'd be the answer is, I don't believe in God. And I don't believe of the Judgment Day. So my answer is

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invalid to them. Or it doesn't give them what they want to know.

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Well, I think first of all, sister, to me, the answer, in some ways is quite obvious.

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Because you are talking to those people.

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Therefore, you are giving them the opportunity to change and to accept the truth. How then can they complain about the message not reaching them, when you are the messenger bringing the message to them? Right.

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And,

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and this is the thing, I really have to say, I hate to generalize about a group of people. There are some atheists who are maybe genuinely confused people. Right? But honestly, many of them are very arrogant people. When you begin to discuss with them, you see it, you will give them very reasonable answers. And they come with very unreasonable replies.

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And these are the people who are claiming that they are reasonable. I would also recommend highly recommend you give to your atheist friends you're talking to online, just ask them to read this book, The Man in the red on the fence, ask them to read it and see if they can come to a response to what is in it and you should read it yourself inshallah, you will find it very, very helpful, because the beginning of the book is talking exactly about the issues to do with how do we know and how can we be convinced that God exists? The other point I want to point out SR is again the point of fitrah. We believe that every human being has an instinctive knowledge, everybody.

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atheism is an acquired position. And this study done by the Oxford Institute for anthropology and psychology, 1.9 million pounds, they spent 60 academics across the world. They did this

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including China, including countries that are largely they don't believe in God. What did they do is when they examine children, and they question them, and they gave them certain tests, in fact, what did they find? They did have a concept of God. And they did have a concept of the afterlife. So even in these atheistic societies, children still have this basic natural concept. And this is some of the reasons why they concluded that the belief in God and the belief in religion and the belief in afterlife is actually a natural, instinctive belief in the human being. Right. So you find, as I said, I think the main reasons why a person chooses to be an atheist is because something bad

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happened to them in their life. And they think, you know, how could God let this happen to me, or they just don't want to live their life by some rules. That said, they don't want rules in their life. They just want to be able to do whatever they want, without feeling that there's some accountability, there may be other reasons. And some people are genuinely confused about, for example, the problem of evil. Another thing that often they say, is religion has led to so many wars. You see, religion has led to so many wars, how can religion be true when religion has led to so many wars and so many problems? Anyway, the point comes again, is this a rational argument? Think

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about it.

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Is this a rational argument?

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No, not rational.

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Because you can still conclude I'm not saying this is the case. I'm not saying this is the case. But rationally, you could say, well, maybe God likes was, it doesn't prove there's not a god.

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It doesn't even prove whether a religion is true or not.

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What is the basis for them to say, because religion causes wars, it can't be true. What's the basis is not a rational basis. It's emotional. It's just an emotional appeal is not rational. And anyway, it's not true. Again, what they have found, psychologists have found that people who have religious beliefs are much happier, live longer lives, and more beneficial and happy lives than people who have no religion. This is pretty much a fact.

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So this is what psychologists are telling us that religion generally makes people happy.

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Let's take another thing. Okay, if you're saying religion has caused so many wars, how about Pol pots?

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Pol Pot, you know, from Cambodia, the dictator?

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Who is responsible for the death of millions and millions of people? How about styling?

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How many people did styling kill, and Hitler

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and so many other people who have no religion whatsoever.

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These walls were not caused by religion, but they are the most bloody and awful wars that have the world has ever seen. Even most of the wars that you find taking place today are not religious wars. They are wars over resources. They are wars based upon materialism. So this claim that religion has cool it's, you know what we can say? It's an outdated cliche. It's ridiculous to make this type of claim and it's not even a rational claim anyway, but you know, some of these people, they are confused. So it's our job in sha Allah. And I'm very glad this people like talking to these people online. And Mashallah trying to convince them and communicate with them. And that's really

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fantastic. I wish there was a lot more people like this sister JazakAllah.

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cello We have time for one more question. So I will turn to the brothers Mike on the right hand side. Go ahead with your question brother.

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Allow about

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a question before I can ask.

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me I'm a newborn.

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Just yesterday

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from Uganda para.

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I have

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some more. I can't say my my father right now

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is called

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a Haji safe.

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I'm so happy that I've joined

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an NGO.

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I was former a

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In the sight of Christian

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and I am wearing a two by four just I finished the two months

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I'm working with the borrower minium

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they might changing it was no T or about getting on this

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ad it was out of

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they believe

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they believe as I've been seeing you

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going through in two months

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I really I compared to where I was coming from. I saw I was losing my life

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not losing my life but not showing that I'm in a right path. So today I wanted to just to get a

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very nice

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a nice a certificate of conversion. I had it yesterday.

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But today I want to have it when

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I'm in a eyes of angels obasan Mashallah.

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Mashallah to the brother Alhamdulillah is the best thing you'll ever do with your life becoming Muslim? Alhamdulillah if you want happiness, the only way you will find real happiness

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is by accepting Islam. But I want to ask a question. Is there anybody else in this room here today? Who would like to make their life a beautiful and happy life and accept the religion of Islam? If anyone else is here is anyone to stand up? Wave your hands come forward if there's anyone else who wants to accept Islam Alhamdulillah

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we have someone

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come we have a lot you know what if you're thinking of becoming Muslim, there's no better time for doing it then now Mashallah. Because believe me you will get rewarded for boosting everybody's faith and making everybody feel beautiful here this afternoon. So is there anyone else anyone else wants to take their Shahada Masha Allah and become Muslim Alhamdulillah

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Okay, we got over there.

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You want to say off to me in sha Allah,

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a shadow

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allama like Wally

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Ibrahim, okay bring from Kenya. Mashallah, I was a Christian, but not I want to convert.

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Mashallah, you bring? That's fantastic. So I'd like the two of you, Ibrahim, and my other brother from Uganda, sha Allah.

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If you just say after me,

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and you repeat after me, I shall do

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an

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ilaha

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IL, Allah wa, wa, wa a shadow. Allah, Allah, Mohammed. Ahmed Rasulullah Rama Mashallah said in English, Allahu Akbar.

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Just say in English, I bear witness. I bear witness, that there is nothing that's worthy of worship, except Allah, except Allah. But there is nothing is nothing worthy of worship, except Allah except Allah and I testify testify that Mohammed, Mohammed is the Messenger of Allah. Allah, Allah has beautiful

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Mashallah

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That's fantastic. Mashallah brothers, my advice to you Mashallah is

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connect to Allah subhanaw taala. Through the prayer, we have a beautiful thing in our religion, every Muslim has to pray five times a day, praying five times a day is not difficult. It's a privilege. Mashallah, can you imagine that Allah has asked us, the creator of the whole universe, to stand in front of him, to pray to Him and to worship Him alone, five times every day at least. So please, I hope the brothers here are going to support you in sha Allah and teach you to pray and I'm sure Mashallah you'll find many people to help you here. Just not enough

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brain. May Allah reward him and bless him and protect him. Always.

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May Allah reward you all for joining us we're going to have

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Sorry, I heard that there's a sister who wants to take Shahada Mashallah hamdulillah just heard from the brothers

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Mashallah,

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are you ready to play the Shahada inshallah, will you stay after me? Yes.

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I shadow I shadow and

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the man in the

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in in Allah, Allah wa wha eyeshadow eyeshadow and Hannah, Hannah and

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Hannah Mohammed Medan Muhammad Rasul Allah,

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Allah

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okay.