Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Visiting a FortuneTeller (Hadith Commentary from Zad alTalibin)
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He's number 226.
Men are often for satella who are in shape. Them took the level
Salah to Arbaeen, elated.
Wherever visits a fortune teller and asks him about something, his
prayer will not be accepted for 14 Nights.
Imam Muslim relates his Hadith.
This just shows how the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is
deterring a person going to anybody that reckons that they
know the unseen,
we're talking about an hour rough, this is a person who tells
fortunes about what's going to happen.
They recognize they reckon that they have the knowledge, the
mastery for the recognition of what's to come.
And what happens with this is that since nobody but Allah subhanaw
taala knows the Unseen, the future.
This causes a lot of corruption for people, because they will
begin to then shape what they do based on what they hear from such
a person.
So firstly, the person is most likely talking from ignorance.
total ignorance, when I say most likely, I'll explain that soon.
They're most likely talking from ignorance. This person who's gone
to them the visiting the client, they begin to stop believing these
things.
Because maybe out of the 10 things, they said two things are
right, which you could probably do as well, when you talk to
somebody, right? And the more clever you are, the more you can
decipher signs, and you can see it subtle indications, you'd probably
get more, right not because you have knowledge of the future, just
because you have intuition, you have insight, you've got
experience. So if it's happened to somebody else, well, it could
happen to this person. So you hear them tell you about their groups
and their problems. And you can really, you can project those
things into the future, to get an idea of what might be the case,
you can't tell for sure. But if you're there, officially as such a
person, then people will really look up to you, and really believe
in you. For example, there's a person I know he goes around doing
these rookie hours on these data wave, as they call them. Right? I
asked a very close friend of his, what do you think of this
particular individual, he says, I don't think he knows anything.
And yet people think of him so highly, they fly him around the
world, because they have these certain griefs and these problems
and these things that they think are to do with magic, and somebody
putting a spell on them, and so on and so forth, black magic, and so
on. So they feel that this person can help them. Now what's
happened, he said, like, for example, he told me a personal
story of his that these people came to visit him because their
daughter had an issue.
She had left home, got tired of the family and left home.
And that obviously is a big deal for a lot of people that that's
one of the worst things that can happen to you. Now the person I'm
speaking to our common friend as such, he's also got an older
daughter. And he's also been through such an experience. So
when this this particular family came to this particular
practitioner, we'll call him, right? That, oh, you must help us
we've got this big, mighty big problem in our family, this
daughter of ours is gone. And she didn't want to come back home,
somebody's definitely done some black magic on her. And that's why
she's left home. They she sees no sense. She's not willing to listen
to us anymore. There must be something. Right. They're not
entertaining, the fact that their relationship had broken down,
they'd let her maybe given too much freedom. And now they were
trying to put curbs on her because maybe she was going in love with
someone and she was going beyond bounds against what this
particular family thinks is socially acceptable. Or maybe they
were just too strict on her and she's gone. Whatever the case is,
they're not looking, they're not exploring any of these other
options. The first thing that they're thinking of is that
somebody has done a spat on her somebody's done magic on her. And
she's gone for that reason. So you need to give us that we've you
need to give us a rockier something appraisal, this can be
sorted out.
So this common friend of ours, he's saying, he was thinking in
his heart that, believe me, in few months, you'll come back. If not
in a few weeks, she'll come back. She's got this independent streak
in her. I've had a similar experience. I've also got an older
daughter, I've had a similar experience, not that it happens to
all daughters, or even or sons or whatever. But he was just saying
that he said I could relate to it from the what they were saying.
And I could have told him that don't worry that she'll come back
in a few months. Right? Because she's gonna go out there
eventually she's going to lose whatever resources and friends
like that don't really stick by you for a very long time because
they're also young and they're also trying to make their own
living. How long is somebody going to support you?
on how you four. So most of the time, they eventually just come
back, because who would you come back to you come back to your
parents. Right? So he said, That's what I had in my mind at that
time. But they came to the shape and the shape is saying, Yes, this
than the other, I'll give you a tweet. And I'll write this for
you. And yeah, this must be a big whatever the problem is, that it
must be a gym, or whatever, and all the rest of it.
And just as this person I predicted, in a few months, they
came back, they said, all martial law Chakalaka shake you up, you
did something so great. She's come back, she's all fine now. And all
the rest of it. And this person is telling me I could have done the
same thing. It's just that I don't look the part.
Not to say that there aren't proper practitioners out there
doing the right thing. Don't get me wrong. There are serious
issues. Magic does exist, right. And these kinds of spells, they
are possible, they are hockey, they are a truth they can happen.
He says in the Quran, that say her does exist. And there are people
who really know how to deal with this.
But
it's important
to
know, make sure that we don't go into that direction too much. That
should not be your first point of call.
Now in England, you don't really see many of these fortune tellers.
I don't think I've ever seen any fortune tellers of psychic shops,
small offices, right? We don't have them here, do we?
Okay, they probably had some, yeah, maybe maybe at the beach or
something like that. But in America, it's a business, you will
see that every town center.
Psychic, I was quite shocked when I first one because it's in you
know, decent places, and you got a psychic there. So I spoke to a
friend of mine who has researched this topic quite a bit. And what
his idea was, from his research is that most of these psychics,
they're not as professional, they've got some very professional
ones. Now, this is his taking his take on it. And I'm not saying
that he can't be right. Because the foundations on which he's
speaking seem to be correct, is that the most of them, especially
the startup ones, they're not very professional, they don't have any
particular type of knowledge. They're just using their wits,
they're just very good at deciphering the movements of
people, the language of people, what the people are saying, and
then just projecting some of that. So what you'll do is you'll go in,
then you've got grief, you just want some kind of help you want
way out, you're not looking at Allah subhanaw taala. Otherwise,
you'll find your way out, right should go to a chaplain instead,
right? They'll they'll give you a much better approach to go to
Allah subhanaw taala than these things, these kind of people. So
they'll look at you. And then they'll they'll start saying, oh,
when you're when you're talking, then they'll start saying, Oh,
that that means that you've got this problem there's going to be
and then they see your reaction. And if you're kind of like
acknowledging what they're saying, and kind of like nodding in, in
acceptance, or in agreement, then they'll carry on with that line.
Right. So they will essentially make up what they're saying, as
they're speaking to you from your reactions. Because a person who is
in brief like that is going to be showing reactions most of the
time. In fact, they're better customers, people who are just pan
face will just sit there like that, they're going to be the
challenge for such people, because they got nothing to go by. So
they'll just ask you, these generic questions that are there
too. And then a lot of the responses, they give you a very
open, open minded. Sorry, they're very,
they're very open, in the sense that they are very restrictive in
exactly what they're saying. So a number of things could happen.
These are, these are the ones that are kind of, not the extremely
professional ones. The because the permissions on have something else
apparently, right? A lot of these people, eventually people will
figure out that they're not that great, because you understand the
pattern. So then they'll move to another city. And they'll start
all over again. And then they'll move to another place. So that's
what happens with a lot of these people. Now, most hamdulillah most
Muslims don't go to these places. So you will never know. But this
person, this brother that I knew he actually studied this in some
depth. He said that there are some very professional ones. I mean,
they're they're very famous and so on. And the way they do it is
different. They even do this on TV, right? The way they do it is
slightly different.
They actually have a contact with a gym,
they actually have contact with the gym. Now do you know that
according to Hadith Avastin, we may have discussed this in other
places, is that every person has a shakedown with them. Right, a new
shaytaan comes with every single human being that comes into this
world. Our shaytaan every person shaytaan has is probably the most
knowledgeable person
Individual creation of Allah aside from the angels, right? There are
also with a human being, but the angels don't sell out to anybody.
Right? You know, nobody can tap into the Quran and can't even make
a contract with them. But with the shaytaan they can. So essentially
what he's saying this is his idea, his theory, but and said that it
does have bases, because we're speaking about gin here, which is
an absolute possibility. Shaytan is from the gin. So they've got
their gin who they've got an agreement with, have some sort of,
you know, some understanding with who communicates with the person
they're speaking to their gin, who knows everything about their life,
but jinns have a wild imagination. That's why you can't trust Jin's
they have a wild imagine they made it from fire. That's the nature
they are they have a wild imagination. So even if they're
speaking the truth, they will mix with it. exaggerations, they will
mix with it other untruths, so you can't trust them 100%, even a
pious chin for that matter.
It's just the norm. That's just the way they are. So
that's how they got some information. So when a person does
go to someone, and there is some kind of truth that they could not
have known this, it's likely that it's done through the Jin's
communication. And as I said that, you know, this is not something I
know firsthand, because it's not something I'm knowledgeable about,
but it definitely has foundation, that this is a possibility. These
are the more powerful ones.
When at our arrival, because for example, a friend of mine that I
know, he had a stomach issue,
right, he had a stomach issue. I'm not sure if I talked about this
before or not, he had a stomach issue. He's been complaining about
it for months, probably over a year. And he first did not
entertain the thought as correctly of thinking that it might be
something that's metaphysical as such, we went to all the doctors,
they did all the tests, and so on and so forth.
And eventually, they just couldn't find anything.
They just couldn't find anything. Essentially, he he's lost his
appetite, he can't eat. I said, subhanAllah that's great for
America, you know, for the West. You know, you don't have to worry
about obesity. You know, people would be very thankful for not
being able to eat too much. But I guess this was really extreme
level, deteriorate health deteriorates, and so on. So then
he asked me, he said, Do you know anybody? So I asked around and
there was one person I heard about here in one of in Bradford. But
when I asked somebody to ask them, they said, well, we can't do it
for anybody that's out of the country because they need to be
here, they need to come here. Then I spoke to another friend of mine
who lives in Saudi in Medina Jinda. And he says, Well, he knows
somebody, he heard about somebody in Delhi, he gave me his number. I
said, Okay, I'll just pass it over to me and help somebody inshallah
they can benefit. So his father called this person up in Delhi.
And he literally, he said, he spoke to him for about two
minutes. Very busy individual spoke to him for about two
minutes. He said, can you
tell me his name? Okay. This is his name, his mother's name. They
asked me his mother's name for some particular reason, give me
his mother's name. said okay, hold on. He went away for a minute or
so he came back in the next minute. And he said, he's got a
stomach problem, doesn't he?
And Father said, Yes, that's the issue.
He hadn't told him he had an explain to even a secretary of his
or something. This is the issue of filled in a form. Okay, this is
what we're suffering from. So the first communication they had,
what's his name? What's his mother's name? After a minute or
two? He's got a stomach problem. Right? Said Yes, yes. Okay, call
me back in a few days, we'll we'll do something about it. We'll see
what we can do about it. How does he know?
It's not that they know the unseen and it's not that they can always
know because these things don't always work out because nobody has
control. Now, remember, this is talking about the past. This is
not talking about the future.
Right? This is not this is not to do with the future. This is about
the past.
Allah subhanaw taala does give a give people such insight. They
tell me when I was studying in India, that there was a family of
really famous, you Unani Hakim's these old Greek medical Hakim's
that practice this old new nanny medicine. Nowadays, they look at
that they, they press the,
the pulse on the left on the left wrist. So they'll put their finger
there and they'll check what the problem they can tell from there.
I've had this done to me, and he said, you've got a problem here. I
was like, Well, how do you know? Because essentially, there's three
places and they can tell you is one place. It's something to do
with your brain. Another has to do with your stomach. It's to do with
your digestion. They've got this, they can tell. I'm told and I
haven't seen this happen myself. But
that initially used to also be that they could actually lower a
rope. And if you know whether it'd be a man or a woman downstairs,
they would just lower rope a rope out and if whoever the
If the patient was they would come out saying just hold that rope.
And they could tell somehow through that Wallah who I don't, I
don't know how true that is never seen happen. But it was a reliable
source that told me about this, you know, maybe a bit of an
exaggeration, I'm not sure. These things are not beyond. But
essentially here, this is speaking not about medical aspects. This
hadith is not speaking about a medical aspect, this hadith is
actually speaking about a person's life and what's going to happen.
So you're going to a person to ask them what they think or they you,
or what you perceive that they know about your future. What that
does, then is that that effects the way you're going to act,
because you think your life is gonna go in a certain direction,
whereas he may not be.
Right.
So that's why it's so dangerous, because somebody's they're playing
God as such. And they can't do because they don't have the
knowledge. And it's bad for your iman, because then it takes away
your debacle. Because if you think you know what's going to happen,
then you there is no sense of double colon reliance on Allah
subhanaw taala because you think it's going to happen in a
particular way. So you either become a fatalist because somebody
told you. So sometimes you could spoil somebody's life with that.
Okay, there's a possibility that you may improve somebody's life in
the sense that you give them all optimistic options, and future
tellings. But then what about if it doesn't happen, you're going to
crush them, they're going to crash down, because they're going to
think, with great optimism, and then suddenly, they're going to go
downhill. So it's not something you anybody can do. That's why
it's so dangerous.
Now, obviously, from a few key perspective to look at this honey,
one person goes to a fortune teller, your salad will not be
accepted for 14 days. So if you know anybody like this, that goes
to these people, you should tell them no. Right? You should tell
them no, because they can't tell you much more than anybody else.
pray to Allah subhanaw taala tell him to tell him, tell him what you
want. And Allah subhanaw taala will give you because Allah
subhanaw taala says, I am with my servants as they think I am.
Right? So if you want things to happen, ask ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada
for goodness for change for positive reaction. That's why he
says that if you are showered with lots of blessings, say
Alhamdulillah often, if you're showered with griefs, say a
stuffing Allah seek forgiveness from Allah subhanho wa taala. And
if you think that poverty is only striking you is one of the big
themes of this. It says that if poverty is haunting, you hounding
you and you just can't get away from it. You try everything and
you're losing everywhere. C'est la hawla wala Quwata illa Billah Al
Ali Ali,
Hello, Anna Quwata illa biLlah Hill, Annie and Aleem, which means
there is no power or might except with Allah subhanaw taala.
Allah Allah, you know them the high and the majestic that will
inshallah set you right.
Now, if a person does go to such an individual, to test them out to
just mess around with them, not advisable, but just from a FICKY
perspective, just to give you a ruling, then obviously if you're
there just to kind of put them down, not that we're telling you
to go and do that, then that obviously is not kind of an act of
Shipka such that doesn't prevent your solids from being accepted.
Because you're not there to listen to them, respect them and honor
them. Clearly this person is a person of Kufa and bitter as such,
and you should not respect such people.
This obviously includes anybody who does these things, whether
it's a person who looks in a ball and tells you right or a palmist,
right? People who look up the lines on your palm and tell you
certain things, right? Or a psychic. Right. So this refers to
all of these people. Having said that, there is a science behind
looking at the face looking at the bottom of the feet, that's a
different story.
Right.
horoscopes are the same. This is exactly what it is. These
newspapers, they have these different horoscope every
horoscope will be different because there's different person
writing it for the different newspapers for example. So in one
will tell you this, but if you look at most horoscopes, they
always sound right. Right. There's never something evil Oh, it's
something's gonna bad's gonna happen to everybody in Scorpio.
Right? I mean, they probably shut the newspaper down. If that was
the case. It's always general, isn't it? Right. They're very open
ended things as they speak about how can you believe in that stuff?
You just feel? I mean, I think people just doing just to feel
good. They just sometimes people are in such turmoil. People are in
just such turmoil, so much grief, some sorrow, they've got nobody to
comfort them. And they haven't found a way to comfort them
themselves.
To the religion. So when they look at anything that will give them
some sense of comfort, some people go to drugs, some people go to
drink, some people go to other things. And you know, some people
are basically happy with the horoscope.
So, that needs to be avoided.