Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – The Two Eids

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the importance of returning to work and avoiding stress in the past, as well as the cultural significance and beauty of the Islamic culture. They emphasize the importance of eating and drinking during the day to achieve spiritual health and joy, as well as the importance of praying during busy holidays. They also mention the importance of praying and sharing experiences in public settings, as well as the trend of people getting together in public.

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			Well, hello, everybody. And I'll
say salaam aleikum, which means
		
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			peace be upon you as well. Oh, you
can actually hear because
		
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			generally this, I did hear that
this was your first program. And
		
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			I'm hoping because of me, it
doesn't become the last. Right?
		
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			This is, I see that we have quite
a bit of a diversity here. And
		
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			while that's great for us to be
together in that diversity, it
		
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			does make it difficult for the
speaker sometimes to talk to
		
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			everybody. And I don't claim to be
a professional, but I hope we're
		
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			going to have time for question
and answers at the end. So don't
		
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			expect to understand everything.
Keep it up, maybe 4060. If you
		
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			understand 40, think you're very
lucky. Right? I'll try to keep it
		
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			as simple as possible. And then of
course, if you have any queries at
		
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			the end, I'm happy to stay in sha
Allah to take care of them. So
		
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			yes, this is not the time of Eid
is it as past
		
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			Eid, one was, what about three
weeks ago, that was the second eat
		
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			just depends on which one you call
first and which one you call the
		
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			second, you can either have a
large gap between them or a small
		
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			gap. So if you can have this one,
the second one, the first one,
		
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			because it's the greater one, then
the second one will come about 10
		
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			months afterwards. And if you call
the first one, the first one,
		
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			which is the first one, I'm
getting lost myself. Anyway, let's
		
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			stop that. So one was about two to
three weeks ago, and the other one
		
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			was about three months ago. Let's
put it that way. They're very
		
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			close together. And growing up I
used to actually when I started
		
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			thinking about these things for
myself, I actually started getting
		
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			very curious, why do we have two
IDs because my concept of Eid was
		
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			just like Christmas or because in
school, we did Christmas things in
		
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			the primary school. So my concept
was okay, eat must be Christmas.
		
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			And they you do it once a year.
But hey, we got to, but why do we
		
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			have to so close together?
Specifically, it's about 70 days
		
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			in between two months and 10 days.
That's what the that's what the
		
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			difference in the two eats up. So
I used to always wonder why not
		
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			have it six months apart, because
you've just had one, I've got all
		
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			these gifts. And then I feel that
my uncles and aunts feel obliged
		
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			to give me a gift again, just in
two months and 10 days, three or
		
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			six months apart, you know, I can
understand that. So that was
		
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			because of my ignorance and
unawareness of the significance of
		
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			the month. And now that I
understand that I hope properly.
		
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			Now, it actually makes a lot more
sense that it be this way. And
		
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			that's what I'm going to try to
explain. Firstly,
		
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			it literally comes from a term
that means to return. And because
		
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			these are
		
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			these are days of Mary Mary
merriment and joy, and they come
		
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			back every year. So they've been
called Eid, every word in Arabic.
		
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			And you know, it'd be nice to
actually see some of your names
		
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			and what they mean. Every word in
Arabic comes from a root term,
		
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			there's nothing out of that
everything has to come from a root
		
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			term. And here, it just comes from
to return and thus, the EAD
		
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			returns every year.
		
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			Then, obviously, to distinguish
the two ends, we have an eagle
		
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			fitter, and we have an eagle
adhaar. Now don't get too worried
		
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			about those terms, if you finding
them hard to say because there is
		
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			a filter, which is a PA and it is
kind of difficult to send the
		
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			other one as a board, which is one
of the most complex and unique
		
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			letters of the Arabic language. I
mean, how you even say it takes a
		
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			lot of practice to even get it
right. So either fit or either not
		
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			what they mean either fitter means
the EAD of ending the fast are
		
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			ending fasting, that's the eidl,
feta eidl other means the eat of
		
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			sacrifice. So that makes it much
more simple now.
		
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			One eat the first one, let's just
keep it that way. You don't fit
		
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			the signals, the end of the
fasting month of Ramadan, that
		
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			month could be 29 days or 30 days
depending on when you see the moon
		
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			and what people agree upon. So
generally, the Islamic calendar
		
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			goes by the lunar year. And that n
tends to be 10 days approximately
		
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			10 days shorter than the Gregorian
year, which is the solar year. So
		
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			you can imagine it as two wheels,
one larger than the other
		
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			Gregorian larger wheel and the
lunar year, the smaller wheel and
		
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			you can imagine how much ground
that covers. So it requires 355
		
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			days for a year to finish. And
that's why it will always be
		
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			approximately 10 days earlier
every year. This causes a lot of
		
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			challenges. This course is a great
challenge and sometimes a
		
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			nightmare for employees and
employers. When do they take off
		
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			and then it doesn't have to be on
one particular day every year. It
		
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			could actually be one of two days
because if the moon is seen on the
		
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			20 on the eve of the or the night
of the 28th of the month or the
		
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			29th of the month and the next day
is the first day of the next month
		
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			because the moon signals the next
month and if it's not seen then we
		
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			do an extra
		
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			Today and we count that as part of
the previous month and do 30 days,
		
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			you can't have 31 days in a month,
you just have 29 or 30. And that's
		
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			what we generally go with. So
there is this now in the second
		
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			eat, because it takes place not on
the first of the month, the
		
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			Islamic month actually takes place
on the 10th of the month. So you
		
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			would at least know 10 days
before. So that is a bit of a bit
		
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			of comfort that at least you can
try to take off once the month has
		
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			been determined and the Eid is
going to be nine days later. So
		
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			then that makes it a bit easier if
that's any comfort for anybody.
		
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			You know what some people do some
schools, they just give you two
		
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			days off.
		
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			Right? So give me the
possibilities. It's going to be
		
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			this day or this day. Okay, we'll
just take both days off. Make sure
		
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			you come the next day. I had a
friend whose, whose son was going
		
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			to school, and he didn't send him
on the day of eat, and neither did
		
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			he send him the next day. And it
was called in by the head teacher.
		
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			So the head teacher saying Why
didn't your son Come son, the EAD
		
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			was yesterday. So this was his
argument. I'm not telling you guys
		
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			to use it. But this was his
argument. He says, Look, you
		
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			understand that on Christmas? You
are up too late. You don't sleep
		
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			on time on Christmas. So our
children are also up to late 12
		
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			o'clock? How would you expect them
to come and be productive at
		
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			school? So that's where they
needed to rest it off. Right? So
		
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			anyway, I'll leave that up in
there.
		
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			Now, as I mentioned, when we look
at eat, the
		
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			understanding that I finally
developed, there has a religious
		
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			significance, right, clearly, it's
a religious day. It has a
		
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			spiritual paradigm.
		
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			And then beyond that, it has an
award aspect, especially the first
		
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			it has an award aspect I'll come
in, I'll come to that. But then
		
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			above all beyond that, there is
the aspect of the joy and the
		
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			merriment and the excitement and
the celebration. That's what
		
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			happens after all that now how do
you mix all of that together?
		
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			You've got religion, you've got
enjoyment, celebration, you've got
		
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			an award from God, and you've got
a spiritual paradigm. And you
		
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			know, that that is really what
makes it so wonderful to bring all
		
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			of that together.
		
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			It will fit or if we start with
that one, which is the one that
		
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			follows Ramadan.
		
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			That one is essentially a day that
follows the 29 or 30 days of
		
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			fasting. And on this day, it
actually becomes prohibited and
		
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			unlawful for somebody to fast so
if they've got some person who
		
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			wants to be a, some kind of
serious Puritan, wants to overdo,
		
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			overly overly religious and he
says, No, I want to fast on this
		
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			day as well. What's one more day
he'll actually be sinful in the in
		
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			the faith for doing so.
		
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			The Prophet sallallahu sallam
said, It's a day of eating,
		
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			drinking and for joy. So accept
that from God. What kind of dry
		
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			asceticism or what kind of drive
religiosity is this, that you
		
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			don't accept that from God? God
says worship at this time, this is
		
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			a time that is not for that it's
for eating and drinking, and you
		
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			can enjoy that. So
		
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			when it comes after the day of
eat, there's a hadith. There's a
		
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			tradition, that when the Prophet
Muhammad peace be upon he moved
		
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			from Makkah Mecca to Medina, he
saw that there were two days that
		
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			the Arabs were had as a
celebration day. Now, I've looked
		
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			far and wide, and the research
shows that you can't figure out
		
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			exactly what they were based upon.
It's probably some, maybe some
		
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			remnant of some Abrahamic
tradition or someone's we just
		
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			don't know what that is, right?
I'm getting a bit technical here.
		
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			But the Prophet Muhammad peace be
upon him said that look, God has
		
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			transplanted these days God has
replaced these days with the two
		
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			Aedes so now this is these are the
two eats for you.
		
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			The first eat, as I mentioned,
		
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			is very significant in the fact
that it finishes the 30 days of
		
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			fasting or 29 days. The first
thing that happens in the morning,
		
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			there's a long tradition.
Actually, many Muslims aren't
		
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			aware of this. From my from my
experience,
		
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			it says that when that morning or
when that morning arrives, the
		
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			angels spread out on all the paths
and they begin to call out
		
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			unfortunately, in a minute my
word, unfortunately in a sound
		
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			that only only everybody but the
human engine can hear. Right?
		
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			Everybody but the human being can
hear and they say come to a Lord
		
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			who is immensely giving and
benevolence. That's what
		
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			that's what these angels say, No,
we don't hear that. But we know
		
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			that we have to go to the mosque
to pray. Generally. We then go to
		
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			perform a special prayer in the
morning. So EADS are characterized
		
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			by a special prayer in the
morning, right, which is the Eid
		
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			prayer, Eid prayers.
		
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			In London generally take place in
mosques, because the weather is a
		
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			bit difficult to predict. But if
you go to I've been to Africa and
		
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			I've been to other places. And
there, what you see is, you
		
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			actually see that they always try
to hold the Eid outside of town
		
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			outside, in on the outskirts of
the town or city in a large field.
		
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			Because the whole idea of Eid
prayer is that everybody should
		
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			come together. Everybody is
encouraged to come out for this
		
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			prayer and do it together. You
can't do it on your own Eid prayer
		
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			on your own every other prayer
except the Friday prayer you can
		
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			do on your own. But this one has
to be done in congregation.
		
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			Everybody comes out for this one.
And you see people coming out of
		
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			woodwork and everything and they
come to this prayer, right?
		
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			The point of this prayer is that
you do the prayer.
		
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			And then God and then this hadith
says that when the people are at
		
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			prayer, God asks the angels now I
know there's a lot of metaphysics
		
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			involved here, right? And you're
not used to metaphysics I know
		
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			this might sound really strange to
some of you. But God says to the
		
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			angels, that what is the reward or
the payment for an a laborer, for
		
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			a worker, once they finished their
deeds, once they finished their
		
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			work and their and their
responsibilities. So the angels
		
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			they reply,
		
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			that the only reward for that is
that you give them the reward in
		
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			full, you give them their payment
in full. I mean, there is a
		
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			tradition by the way in Islam,
which were from the Prophet
		
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			Muhammad, peace be on and he says
that pay the labor before his
		
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			sweat dries, pay the labor before
his or her sweat dries, which
		
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			means don't dilly dally and
payment. Right now. I know we get
		
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			payments at the end of the month
here. Right, generally speaking,
		
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			right? And that's allowed, because
that's a customer. That's
		
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			understandable, right? But so yes,
they're telling God that that is
		
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			the case that you must pay them
fully. So then God says, I make
		
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			you witness, he says to the
angels, I make you witness that I
		
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			have, I have decreed that their
reward of their fasting and their
		
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			standing night vigils at night and
so on my satisfaction, I've made
		
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			it my satisfaction, I will be
satisfied with them. And I will
		
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			forgive them. Now you can all
return from this prayer place of
		
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			prayer, you can all return. And
you can go being totally forgiven.
		
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			Now for our Muslim colleagues
here, what? Who who's heard this
		
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			tradition before?
		
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			Right, so that's the minority,
right? That's a minority. But it's
		
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			a very interesting when it
actually makes going for the Eat
		
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			prayer less troublesome, less
cumbersome, you actually like I'm
		
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			going there for a reason.
Otherwise, I still want, okay.
		
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			It's just the prayer. It's just a
prayer. It's a special prayer, you
		
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			don't do it on any other day, you
do it this time. But actually, now
		
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			that you actually go there for
rewards. So when you come back,
		
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			you feel a greater sense of
enjoyment. This is what the sense
		
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			of enjoyment and eat is all about.
Now, to move on.
		
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			There's another thing we do on
this day, we do a sadaqa to fit in
		
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			Islam, pretty much with every
excuse, there is something about
		
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			feeding somebody about helping
others. There's, there's just so
		
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			many excuses to do that. You do a
wrong in hudge. In the pilgrimage,
		
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			you make a mistake, you pay, who
would you pay, you pay a poor
		
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			person, if it's a small
infraction, you you basically pay
		
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			a small ticket, right, you pay a
three, four pounds, if you do a
		
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			big one, then you sacrifice an
animal in new fields, right?
		
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			There's just so much. There's just
so much of that encouragement, as
		
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			penalties and so on, just so that
we can distribute the wealth. So
		
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			at the end of Ramadan, for this
day of eat, before you go to the
		
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			prayer, it's, it's necessary to
pay a southern atoll fitter, which
		
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			is I mean, it's only about three,
four or five pounds, but you pay
		
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			that on behalf of each member of
your family. It has to be paid
		
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			before they Eat, Pray, the whole
purpose of it is that it's given
		
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			to the poor so that they can also
enjoy the day of Eid, get their
		
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			supplies, get their foods, maybe
some clothing, whatever they need
		
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			to do. Now, one of the mistakes we
make is that we actually pay when
		
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			we go to the IID prayer place. And
that's quite a challenge, then to
		
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			get it to the poor straightaway.
You don't have poor people in
		
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			London, like lining the streets,
generally, maybe you do have poor
		
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			people in London, but you don't
have them in poor countries. You
		
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			got out of your house, no poor
people and you gave it to them.
		
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			And that was the day when they
became like quite rich, maybe you
		
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			know, at least. But so I would
encourage our you know, our
		
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			brothers and sisters here that
give it before during Ramadan so
		
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			that it gets to the poor people
beforehand so that they can enjoy
		
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			the day eat as well as we do.
Right now, people come back. And I
		
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			tell you something, it's so
amazing. You've met somebody, your
		
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			own brother, your own child,
whoever it may be, you've gone to
		
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			eat pray with them. As soon as the
prayer finishes, everybody wants
		
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			to meet each other. And this is
just immense amount of love that
		
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			shown I mean, you've just been
with them about an hour before.
		
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			Now the press finish and you're
just like embracing everybody and
		
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			getting so excited and happy is
just in the air.
		
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			You know, because of this sense of
feeling, then it starts the rest
		
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			of the day, a lot of people, what
they do is they go to the
		
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			graveyard to see the deceased to
go and visit their deceased in a
		
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			graveyard. Now, that's not
necessarily something that's
		
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			particularly ordered or even
recommended. But the reason why I
		
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			think people do this is because
generally, in most places, the Eid
		
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			prayer area was outside the town
next to generally are very close
		
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			to the cemetery. So it was just
convenient that you're out here
		
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			already. Let's just pass by the
cemetery. Let's do some reading
		
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			and some prayer, visit our
deceased in the cemetery, and then
		
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			we go back home. So a lot of
people still do that today. But as
		
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			I said that there's no particular
significance and doing it on that
		
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			day. And then after that, you go
home, and then the visitations
		
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			begin, so you start visiting one
another, right. And again, that's
		
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			just something we do because of
the whole aspect of the joy. And
		
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			it's actually an excuse to be
honest, right? In America, we had
		
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			the Thanksgiving, right there, you
had to have a turkey bow, right.
		
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			But in this case, you go and visit
people come to your house. And
		
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			then there's generally one house
that everybody chooses maybe the
		
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			parents home or something and then
everybody gets together for the
		
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			eat meal or something like that.
But again, this is you wear new
		
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			clothes, you exchange gifts,
children really love this day
		
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			because they get a lot of gifts on
this day. And so that's basically
		
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			how they generally spend the day
of eat. Now, one thing very
		
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			interesting is that when the month
of Ramadan ends, and it comes in
		
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			the E is actually on the first day
of the next month, which is called
		
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			shear wall.
		
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			Now, shear wall the first day of
shear wall also symbolizes
		
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			something else, it symbolizes the
beginning of the month of hedge.
		
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			Now, what are the months of hajj,
two months and 10 days, basically
		
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			two months and 10 days prior to
the Hajj taking place. Those are
		
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			all called the months of hajj that
starts at Eagle fitter. So while
		
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			we don't know it, generally, the
months of hajj have become not the
		
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			days of Hajj, the months I've had
the general because that's when
		
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			people would have been preparing
to go for Hajj. That is when if
		
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			you have enough money to go for
Hajj, Hajj becomes obligatory the
		
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			pilgrimage becomes obligatory upon
you. If you had money before that
		
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			and you lost it the day before
Hydra would not be obligate
		
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			obligatory on you if you didn't
have it during the month of hajj.
		
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			So that's like this time that
qualifies you obligates you if you
		
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			have enough means to go for Hajj.
So
		
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			now what happens is the month of
hajj begin, some people they leave
		
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			for Hajj early nowadays, I think
the maximum Hajj is generally
		
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			about six weeks, I think and most
people in London, England they go
		
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			two to three weeks. Anyway. Now as
we go we pass one month, the
		
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			second month, and then the third
month is religious we have Chawan
		
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			Ville, Canada, and then we'll hit
June that is the month of hajj.
		
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			Now the particular month, and on
the 10th of this month, is are the
		
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			ninth of this month, the 10th of
this month, those are the main
		
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			days of the pilgrimage.
		
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			Now there's going to be two sets
of people, there's going to be
		
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			some people who have gone for the
pilgrimage, they're in Mecca. And
		
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			there's going to be people who are
left at home. The vast majority,
		
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			the elite have gone because
they've got money and they've gone
		
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			right somehow they've got their
the rest of us at home. And we
		
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			both have responsibilities
		
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			coming up to this eat. So the
first nine days they eat is on the
		
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			10th of the month. So the first
nine days, it's recommended to
		
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			fast. And scholars actually say
that these nine days are the most
		
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			virtuous days of the year to
fasting.
		
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			They actually compare it to the
last 10 nights of Ramadan. They
		
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			say that the last 10 nights of
Ramadan are the most superior
		
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			nights of the year, while these
days are the most superior days of
		
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			the year. It's very interesting.
So we're recommended to fast a lot
		
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			of people don't fast during this
time because recommendation if I
		
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			fasted in Ramadan, and
		
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			what people do, though, is the on
the ninth of the month, just the
		
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			day before before the hijo before
they eat rather,
		
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			before they eat rather not the
height. That is the day when the
		
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			fasting is very strongly
recommended. In fact, it's very
		
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			strongly recommended the Prophet
Muhammad peace be upon him said
		
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			anybody who first on this day. I
have great hope in God that He
		
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			forgives their one year previous
sins and also one year future
		
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			sins. Sounds like a good deal. So
a lot of people fast on this day,
		
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			unless you're in hudge then you
don't faster than today because
		
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			this is one of the business one of
the very intense days in which
		
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			when you stand in our offer, and
you pray to God and the Prophet
		
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			Muhammad, there was only a one
year peace be upon him when he did
		
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			not foster that when he did not
foster his date. That was in his
		
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			last and final year when he went
for the Hajj. He drank milk in the
		
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			date
		
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			I'm proving that he wasn't
fasting. And very interesting. He
		
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			actually died the next year.
What's very interesting is that
		
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			some of the scholars, they say,
just as a, as an interesting
		
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			point, that if you're guaranteed
your forgiveness for your sins for
		
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			the next year, then hopefully
that's a good sign that you live
		
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			for the next year at least.
		
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			If you're guaranteed by fasting on
our offer, on the ninth of the
		
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			month, your past your sins
forgiven, and your future your
		
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			sins forgiven, how are you going
to be forgiven for the next year
		
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			if you don't live to maybe commit
any since I'm talking about my
		
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			innocence. So again, this is not
guarantee okay, you can't sue
		
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			anybody for that. This is not a
guarantee. This is just a nice
		
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			point. And what they say is look
at the Prophet Muhammad, peace be
		
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			upon him. He fasted that day every
year, except his last year when he
		
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			went for the * was in hydrogen
fast, and he passed away. But
		
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			again, this is not anything that's
mentioned in the Hadith itself as
		
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			being that you will stay alive,
right. And it's just a nice point
		
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			that somebody came up with and I
wanted to share it with you.
		
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			Now on the 10th, which is the end
the whole world is going to be the
		
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			whole Muslim world is going to be
getting into their clothes and
		
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			they're going to be preparing for
their sacrifice the Eat, Pray
		
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			again, you go for Eid prayer in
the morning, and then you do a
		
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			sacrifice. The people on Hajj on
the pilgrimage, they don't wear
		
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			new clothes on that day, they are
on that day, they have the two
		
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			white garments, you've seen it
probably on TV, if you're if
		
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			you've been you've experienced it,
the two white garments. And on
		
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			this day, this is now the first
day that you can actually take
		
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			those off and come out of your
pilgrim state. And you can only do
		
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			this if you've gone and pelted the
devil's let me go into that a bit.
		
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			And you have
		
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			gone and done your sacrifice. And
once you've done that, now you're
		
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			allowed to cut your hair, which
signals that I'm out of the state.
		
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			And then you can take a bath, you
can use perfume now, and you can
		
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			come out and wear your normal
clothing. So that's basically for
		
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			the people up there. I was just
there. And that's what I did. But
		
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			the people who the vast majority
around the world, what are they
		
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			going to do? They will start the
day of Eid, they would have
		
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			probably booked an animal
sacrifice somewhere. Did some of
		
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			you do sacrifice this year?
Anybody did it themselves? No, I
		
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			think that's very difficult in
England right now. I mean, there
		
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			are still some people who go to a
slaughterhouse and do it
		
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			themselves. But slowly, slowly,
it's actually becoming a payment
		
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			now. You just send it to some
country, you don't even eat from
		
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			it. Whereas the whole point of the
sacrifice was that you read the
		
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			animal, right? You feed it and
everything and then you sacrifice
		
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			it for God, just like the whole
point of the sacrifice comes from
		
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			Abraham peace be upon him the
patriarch, right. That's where it
		
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			comes from.
		
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			So the idea is, I mean, the story
I know there's difference in the
		
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			Judaic and the Islamic traditions,
in this case, Abraham, we believe
		
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			peace be upon him after he was
about 70 Or so he didn't hatch
		
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			through sera, sera. And he has
Salam. Then he had, what in
		
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			English is referred to who in
English is referred to as haga or
		
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			Hotjar, or agile in Arabic. He had
a child with her
		
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			after an old age after being so
old. He is told to leave them in
		
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			Mecca. There's a long story, but
he tells he is told to leave them
		
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			in Mecca.
		
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			And then he goes back and he is
told that you must sacrifice your
		
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			son who is now about 12 or 13
years of age, it gets his son
		
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			after such an age. And then after
his 13 years of age is seeing him
		
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			grow up and he said, in his dream
is being told you must sacrifice
		
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			your son for three days he enjoys
this dream. And then he realized
		
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			is that there's no escape from
this is from God. This is a
		
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			revelation from God that I must do
this. So unlike many parents of
		
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			today, he is actually very
sensible. Right? He's a prophet so
		
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			he says to his son is smart he'll
This is the Muslims believe this
		
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			was Ismail Ishmael. Right?
		
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			This is what I'm seeing. Mother
Tara, what do you think?
		
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			Now imagine that conversation? How
difficult would that conversation
		
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			be? So his son says if Alma took
more strategy, Dooney insha Allah
		
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			Who Mina Siberian, do what you've
been commanded to do, you'll find
		
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			that I'm a patient one. He's he is
supposed to be a great person as
		
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			well. And again, I mean, if you
just put yourself in that scene
		
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			that's quite now as he's taking
his son to do this. Now in the
		
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			Judaic tradition, they believe
this was Isaac, not Ishmael.
		
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			Right. This is big contention
that's been going on for
		
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			centuries. But let's leave that
for now.
		
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			As he is going the devil appears
to him in three places saying,
		
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			trying to mislead him that no,
this is a crazy idea, whatever the
		
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			case is, and he picks up a few
stones and he throws it at the
		
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			devil. And it disappears, comes
again he throws a few stones comes
		
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			again throws a few stones, and
then now his latest sundown is
		
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			trying to sacrifice him. So he's
trying to now sacrifice him but
		
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			nothing's happening. And then
suddenly, he's told by God that
		
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			this was just the test. And he
sent around from heaven. A nice
		
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			healthy round from
		
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			haven't installed the sacrifice
that until today, this is a
		
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			tradition that Muslims continue.
Now the most interesting thing I
		
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			mean, I know I'm diverging here,
but among the three great
		
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			religions of the world, the three
Abrahamic religions, because
		
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			what's interesting is that you
know, Abraham, he was such a
		
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			patriarch, that after him in the
line and succession of Prophets,
		
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			every single prophet was actually
then from his children, from his
		
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			descendants. You know, if you look
at Moses, Jacob, Joseph, David,
		
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			who else, Solomon, peace be upon
them all, Mohamed Jesus, all of
		
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			them are his descendants, plus the
four major books, the Scriptures,
		
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			the, the Old Testament, the Torah,
the evangel, the Bible, the the
		
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			Psalms of David, the Quran,
they're all from prophets within
		
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			his progeny. That's the very high
status. That's why he's so
		
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			revered. So now, when he left his
wife there were there in Mecca
		
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			where there was absolutely nothing
in those days, there was no water,
		
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			no tree, in fact, it was just a
pure desert.
		
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			His wife is left there with her
child, and the child is thirsty.
		
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			She needs to feed it. So she goes,
and there are two mounts nearby
		
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			the sufferer and the marula she
climbs up one of them to look for
		
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			water, she climbs down runs across
the valley climbs up the second
		
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			one can't find anything and she is
desperate. She does this seven
		
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			times from one to the next, next
and seven, she does the seven
		
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			circuits. And then she comes back
down and she sees that well, a
		
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			water sources erupted from where
her son is lying down. That's the
		
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			Zamzam water that Muslims will
bring, you know when they come
		
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			back from the image. Right. Now,
what I want to point out here is
		
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			that this independent single
mother earth, well seemingly like
		
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			a singularity, where she was
obviously with Ibrahim, but she
		
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			was left alone there and told that
she was told to leave her he was
		
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			told to leave her there.
		
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			This is all her efforts. And in
Islam until today, if you go for
		
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			Hajj, you are obliged obligated to
go between these two. Now, they're
		
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			not much a mountain anymore. But
it's still about a two mile total
		
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			walk that you have to do between
the two. This in the three
		
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			religions. According to this our
studies, it is the only act a
		
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			right is not only right to act of
worship, that has its basis in a
		
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			woman's action. Right. Now,
unfortunately, these things are
		
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			not in the four. What's in the
four is that Islam is a misogynist
		
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			religion and all the rest of it. I
mean, these are things that need
		
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			to be really understand today,
actually, feminists are actually
		
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			discovering Hagar. Like, wow, what
a woman she was, I mean, a
		
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			classic, you know, historical
individual that did whatever she
		
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			did and brings up this whole
civilization. Now, it's very
		
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			interesting. I mean, I know I'm
belaboring this point. But now
		
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			she's got this water. There is a
tribe from Yemen, of these
		
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			original Arabs, they are traveling
and they you know, in a desert,
		
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			you look for water. And they see,
and they come upon this area, and
		
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			they see water like Wow,
wonderful. This what is nice. Can
		
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			we stay here with you? So she said
she was very shrewd, you can tell
		
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			by this. She said yes, you can
stay here because you need people,
		
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			it'd be nice to have people around
here. Right? But no control over
		
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			the water. Water is in my control.
I mean, that's a very independent
		
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			woman, right? Okay. You can be
here, but no, the water is under
		
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			my control.
		
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			And then a whole, you know, whole
community
		
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			develops, their Ishmael gets
married in that community, Abraham
		
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			keeps visiting, and it's a long
story. But anyway, all of that is
		
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			memorialized in the hajj. And
that's why the Muslims go every
		
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			year, and the rest of the Muslims
around the world, they do the same
		
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			sacrifice wherever they are in the
world, as long as you got the
		
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			ability to do so if you don't have
the money, you don't do it. But if
		
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			you have the money, you do that
sacrifice. So this day, is a very
		
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			interesting day. It's a day of
sacrifice. You can't do the
		
00:29:04 --> 00:29:06
			sacrifice until you've done the
morning prayer. So you go to do
		
00:29:06 --> 00:29:09
			the morning prayer. And then after
that people want to do their
		
00:29:09 --> 00:29:14
			sacrifice. Now, as I said, today,
you've paid somebody and I what I
		
00:29:14 --> 00:29:18
			would recommend to people is that
you can pay for sacrifices in
		
00:29:18 --> 00:29:20
			other countries of the world where
they they're a lot more needy for
		
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			meat. Alright, you can do that.
But you should also do one here,
		
00:29:25 --> 00:29:28
			so that at least our families, our
children understand the
		
00:29:28 --> 00:29:29
			significance otherwise, they're
just going to think it's like a
		
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			payment to us to make, right
you're never going to see it.
		
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			There's no significance in that.
So it's important I think we do
		
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			that. I'll just tell you that, you
know, in the first eat, because
		
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			you fasted for 30 days, there's
actually a recommendation that you
		
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			eat something before you go to the
prayer in the morning so the
		
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			Prophet Muhammad is related that
he ate dates before he went for
		
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			the prayer in this eat. You know
what the best thing is to eat on
		
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			the second eat the big eat the
sacrifice eat
		
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			meat,
		
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			meat because
		
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			That's the day when you said the
Republic, the Prophet Muhammad
		
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04
			peace when he would come back,
they would sacrifice the animal I
		
00:30:04 --> 00:30:08
			mean, and they would immediately
the in, you know the the liver and
		
00:30:08 --> 00:30:09
			those kinds of things, they would
do that first because it's the
		
00:30:09 --> 00:30:12
			fastest to cook takes his few
moments, and then they would cook
		
00:30:12 --> 00:30:16
			the meat. That's why some scholars
like following the following this
		
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			very closely, there was one
scholar that I know she exactly,
		
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			or he would not eat anything but
meat on that day.
		
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			And not to not to stuff himself,
but to eat. Now I have to tell you
		
00:30:27 --> 00:30:31
			one thing, and I want to say this
to my Muslim brand sisters, and in
		
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			particular, our Asian people who
love their meat, we are a bit too
		
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			much in our meat, we need to take
a night if there's some
		
00:30:38 --> 00:30:41
			vegetarians here, they're going to
get excited about this. But
		
00:30:42 --> 00:30:44
			the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon
him was a
		
00:30:45 --> 00:30:49
			semi vegetarian. What did that
mean? How would you how you're
		
00:30:49 --> 00:30:53
			semi vegetarian? Essentially, he
ate meat. And he loved me too.
		
00:30:53 --> 00:30:56
			When he got it. He loved the
shoulder and he will give me
		
00:30:56 --> 00:31:00
			another one, right. But the
majority of his days were spent
		
00:31:00 --> 00:31:04
			without meat. In fact, there are
traditions which mentioned from
		
00:31:04 --> 00:31:09
			him that meat has an addiction,
right, just like Winders
		
00:31:11 --> 00:31:15
			according to one other scholar,
eating meat for 40 days hardens
		
00:31:15 --> 00:31:17
			your heart. Now I don't need to
tell you all that kind of stuff.
		
00:31:17 --> 00:31:20
			Right? The cardiologist will tell
you these kinds of things. But
		
00:31:20 --> 00:31:24
			what we've done at home, is that
we started with one meat three day
		
00:31:24 --> 00:31:28
			a week, like no meat, because you
know, even Indian Pakistanis, what
		
00:31:28 --> 00:31:31
			they do is even when they cook
lentils, they have to have a bit
		
00:31:31 --> 00:31:36
			of meat in there to flavor it.
Right. It's kind of crazy. And
		
00:31:36 --> 00:31:39
			it's really unhealthy to do too
much of it. So we started off with
		
00:31:39 --> 00:31:44
			one meat three day a week. Now,
thanks to God, we actually do, oh,
		
00:31:44 --> 00:31:47
			we only do meat about two and a
half, maybe three days a week if
		
00:31:47 --> 00:31:51
			we're lucky. Right. And it's, I
found it to be very beneficial.
		
00:31:52 --> 00:31:54
			And that means any meats, that
means any meats, and of course,
		
00:31:54 --> 00:31:57
			then you've got the hierarchy of
needs, the reds and whites and so
		
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			on. But I'll leave that right now
that's not our point. But on the
		
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			day of eat, enjoy your meat, on
the day of eat, enjoy your meat,
		
00:32:04 --> 00:32:06
			you know, have a barbecue, do
whatever you like, enjoy that meat
		
00:32:06 --> 00:32:09
			on that day, because that's a gift
of God, that's hospitality from
		
00:32:09 --> 00:32:13
			God. Of course, you don't have to
do it on the same day, you're
		
00:32:13 --> 00:32:16
			allowed to do it up to three days.
What's interesting is that you're
		
00:32:16 --> 00:32:19
			not allowed to fast, it's again,
unlawful to pass on this eat as
		
00:32:19 --> 00:32:22
			well. And for three days following
it. For a lot of people in those
		
00:32:22 --> 00:32:25
			days, this is probably the one
time when you got meat because
		
00:32:25 --> 00:32:28
			there were no refrigerators, no
freezes hot climate, how long is
		
00:32:28 --> 00:32:31
			meat gonna survive for that's why
they dried meat. So they had built
		
00:32:31 --> 00:32:35
			on, you know, beef jerky, or
whatever you call it, right? But
		
00:32:35 --> 00:32:41
			otherwise, meat was not so easily
available. Either. They would for
		
00:32:41 --> 00:32:44
			three, four for the to eat, you're
not allowed to fast plus three
		
00:32:44 --> 00:32:46
			days after this eats or five days
of the year, you are not allowed
		
00:32:46 --> 00:32:50
			to fast. Even if you did fast,
you'd be sinning. Right? So that's
		
00:32:51 --> 00:32:54
			what we that's specifically to do
with this eat.
		
00:32:56 --> 00:32:58
			While these I mean, I just want to
ask a question.
		
00:33:00 --> 00:33:03
			How many of us thought that Eid
was just a day of celebration
		
00:33:03 --> 00:33:07
			didn't really understand the the
religious significance of, you
		
00:33:07 --> 00:33:13
			know, all of these religious and
spiritual acts that were related
		
00:33:13 --> 00:33:14
			to it?
		
00:33:15 --> 00:33:16
			Anybody?
		
00:33:18 --> 00:33:23
			Right. So, as I said, That's what
I thought but once I understood
		
00:33:23 --> 00:33:27
			the significance that on the day
of Eid Al Adha, around the eidl
		
00:33:27 --> 00:33:30
			adhaar. As you know, we do take me
years, we glory, we magnify God,
		
00:33:30 --> 00:33:33
			Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, God is
great, God is great, we do it, we
		
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			start the day before, and we carry
on for, you know, for three days.
		
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			So there's about four days of this
that we do this for. So now you
		
00:33:41 --> 00:33:45
			can understand that it's not just
the day to just enjoy yourself.
		
00:33:46 --> 00:33:49
			Right? It's a day that has
religious significance. And then
		
00:33:50 --> 00:33:53
			it's just how do you reconcile
religious significance spiritual
		
00:33:53 --> 00:33:57
			paradigm plus enjoying yourself?
But haven't you seen that you can
		
00:33:57 --> 00:34:00
			actually enjoy and people do enjoy
themselves straight afterwards
		
00:34:00 --> 00:34:04
			that they start, you know,
visiting everybody each other and
		
00:34:04 --> 00:34:06
			the gifts and there's a lot of
discussion that takes place.
		
00:34:08 --> 00:34:11
			Basically, another aspect here is
that the Prophet Muhammad peace be
		
00:34:11 --> 00:34:15
			upon him said that for every
fasting person, there are two
		
00:34:15 --> 00:34:16
			sources of joy.
		
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21
			One when he breaks his fast he or
she finishes their fast at the end
		
00:34:21 --> 00:34:23
			of the day, and when you get that
		
00:34:24 --> 00:34:28
			date, or milkshake or cold water,
and you know, in London, in
		
00:34:28 --> 00:34:32
			England, when you have 18 and a
half, mine was about 20 Because I
		
00:34:32 --> 00:34:37
			do the earlier sawhorse from one
o'clock in the morning, right to
		
00:34:37 --> 00:34:43
			939 25. So we've got about three
and a half hours to when I went to
		
00:34:43 --> 00:34:46
			South Africa, it was actually 12
hours and 12 hours. So while there
		
00:34:46 --> 00:34:49
			was so much easier, but I felt
that there was no time in the day
		
00:34:49 --> 00:34:51
			because once if thought happens,
then it just kind of will
		
00:34:51 --> 00:34:54
			finishes. And they were telling me
even scholars, they're like, Don't
		
00:34:54 --> 00:34:58
			you guys, like can you guys just
do seven hours or whatever? I said
		
00:34:58 --> 00:34:59
			no, no, it's fine. We do it even
our children do it.
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:02
			Right, it's kind of very
interesting that when you're put
		
00:35:02 --> 00:35:05
			into that situation, you can
actually do it, it's very healthy,
		
00:35:05 --> 00:35:07
			it gives a good detox from that.
		
00:35:08 --> 00:35:12
			So the joy is all part of the
remembrance of Allah, because
		
00:35:12 --> 00:35:15
			you're totally told to enjoy that
day, along with doing all of this
		
00:35:15 --> 00:35:20
			and be happy that God has given
you. The basically, the joy of the
		
00:35:20 --> 00:35:23
			eidl fitter is that God has given
you the ability to fast for 30
		
00:35:23 --> 00:35:28
			days, and now you enjoy and enjoy
that you've been given the reward
		
00:35:28 --> 00:35:31
			in the other one, it's because
it's homage, it's a pilgrimage,
		
00:35:31 --> 00:35:34
			and you've got all of this
historical significance that it's
		
00:35:34 --> 00:35:40
			completely soaked in, right to
take care of. So the I was talking
		
00:35:40 --> 00:35:42
			about that particular Hadith of
the Prophet Muhammad, he was
		
00:35:42 --> 00:35:45
			saying that for when you finish
your fast, you get this excitement
		
00:35:45 --> 00:35:48
			of being able to eat. He said, the
second excitement that you're
		
00:35:48 --> 00:35:51
			gonna get is on the day you meet
your Lord, when he rewards you for
		
00:35:51 --> 00:35:55
			it. And I tell you something, if
you fasted for 18 hours, or 20
		
00:35:55 --> 00:36:00
			hours, or even 12 hours, and when
you are then allowed to eat, you
		
00:36:00 --> 00:36:03
			know, the happiness that you get,
and the joy that you feel, if
		
00:36:03 --> 00:36:07
			meeting with the Lord is as good
as that. That is more than enough,
		
00:36:08 --> 00:36:10
			right? That is what's going to
happen. However, the other joy
		
00:36:10 --> 00:36:13
			that can be incorporated into this
is that when you finish the 30
		
00:36:13 --> 00:36:16
			days, the E Day is a day of joy,
as well as the finishing of the
		
00:36:16 --> 00:36:19
			entire month, not just the
finishing of the day, but the
		
00:36:19 --> 00:36:19
			entire month.
		
00:36:22 --> 00:36:28
			What some scholars have said is
Ramadan is the time to make the
		
00:36:28 --> 00:36:32
			effort and show your devotion to
God, wherever you are in the
		
00:36:32 --> 00:36:35
			world, because Ramadan is done in
the comfort of your own home in
		
00:36:35 --> 00:36:40
			your locality. And if you do well
enough, and you are chosen, you
		
00:36:40 --> 00:36:42
			will be called in the next eat
		
00:36:43 --> 00:36:46
			to the holy sacred presence in
Mecca.
		
00:36:47 --> 00:36:51
			That is a culmination. And only
three I mean, this year, there
		
00:36:51 --> 00:36:57
			were about 3 million or so people
there. And believe me, while it's
		
00:36:57 --> 00:37:01
			tough, there's a wonderful feeling
where you're all doing the same
		
00:37:01 --> 00:37:05
			thing. I tell you in the 3 million
p&l, and of course, I didn't
		
00:37:05 --> 00:37:09
			mingle with every one of those 3
million people. But I mingled with
		
00:37:09 --> 00:37:12
			a lot of people. I mean, there's
no way you can avoid that. Right?
		
00:37:13 --> 00:37:18
			I only saw one petty argument
taking place. Like these guys were
		
00:37:18 --> 00:37:21
			bickering at each other. And
believe me, it's hot, it's 40
		
00:37:21 --> 00:37:26
			degrees to 43 degrees, and you are
tired, you are stressed. You're
		
00:37:26 --> 00:37:30
			the food, the clothing, you know,
whatever it is, you're not in your
		
00:37:30 --> 00:37:33
			normal surroundings, and you
could. But the whole lesson of
		
00:37:33 --> 00:37:38
			that is amazing that I only saw
one petty argument which was
		
00:37:38 --> 00:37:41
			diffused in my group that I went
in 100 people, not a single
		
00:37:41 --> 00:37:45
			argument did I come across? That's
amazing. That's amazing. When a
		
00:37:45 --> 00:37:49
			time for prayer comes, nobody has
to stand there to organize.
		
00:37:49 --> 00:37:52
			Everybody just kind of stands in
line in orderly lines. When you
		
00:37:52 --> 00:37:56
			look at an aerial view of it, you
just see around the house of God,
		
00:37:56 --> 00:38:00
			the Kaaba, you just see people
just automatically there, you
		
00:38:00 --> 00:38:03
			probably couldn't do this in any
other festival, or in any other
		
00:38:03 --> 00:38:06
			carnival, or whatever large
meeting, you need Ushers and
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:08
			everything. Yes, they've got
police there to make sure that
		
00:38:08 --> 00:38:11
			people don't do crazy stuff. But
otherwise, prayer time, everybody
		
00:38:11 --> 00:38:14
			just stands and they know where to
stand. And they just stand and
		
00:38:14 --> 00:38:14
			they pray.
		
00:38:15 --> 00:38:21
			So the day of Eid, while it's a
day of celebration, they actually
		
00:38:21 --> 00:38:26
			based on very specific rights, and
that have to be completed, a
		
00:38:26 --> 00:38:31
			happiness is enjoyed through them.
They're not days of
		
00:38:32 --> 00:38:36
			a complete, you know, an absolute
expression of merrymaking or a day
		
00:38:36 --> 00:38:40
			when God is set to look the other
way that you can do what you want,
		
00:38:40 --> 00:38:43
			God is looking the other way,
that's in some traditions, right?
		
00:38:44 --> 00:38:47
			Or a day that you can just drink
as much as you want. Just make
		
00:38:47 --> 00:38:50
			sure you take a taxi home and you
don't drive home. That's not what
		
00:38:50 --> 00:38:54
			it's about. It's, there's a
religious aspect of it. But within
		
00:38:54 --> 00:38:57
			that we get to enjoy ourselves.
And that's what actually adds to
		
00:38:57 --> 00:39:01
			it when you're in tune with the
spiritual aspect of it. So I'm
		
00:39:01 --> 00:39:07
			going to pray to God, that He
allow us to enjoy our Aedes even
		
00:39:07 --> 00:39:11
			further now that we've understood
the significance and truly, truly
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:16
			understand and imbue the
significance and make it even more
		
00:39:16 --> 00:39:20
			worthwhile. Because as people of
faith, this is what we want from
		
00:39:20 --> 00:39:25
			our lives that we've got God to
stand in front of, and may He
		
00:39:25 --> 00:39:29
			reward us all. Just a few
practical considerations, you
		
00:39:29 --> 00:39:33
			know, because that is where the
challenge lies for many of us,
		
00:39:33 --> 00:39:36
			right? This is my observation.
		
00:39:37 --> 00:39:40
			And I know you've you've got,
maybe your boss is sitting here as
		
00:39:40 --> 00:39:41
			well.
		
00:39:42 --> 00:39:47
			You got some Muslims, who try to
be all righteous and pious and
		
00:39:47 --> 00:39:48
			very practicing.
		
00:39:50 --> 00:39:53
			So they tell their boss, it's
necessary for me to pray and yes,
		
00:39:53 --> 00:39:56
			it's necessary on them, not
denying that, but then they will
		
00:39:56 --> 00:39:57
			take extra time.
		
00:39:58 --> 00:39:59
			They will
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			come back late, they won't do
their work properly, they'll make
		
00:40:03 --> 00:40:07
			excuses. And what that does is
that creates a very bad image,
		
00:40:07 --> 00:40:11
			then you've got another extreme,
who want to just hide and don't
		
00:40:11 --> 00:40:14
			even want to say they're Muslim.
Right? So you've got that extreme
		
00:40:14 --> 00:40:17
			as well, right? You got a whole,
you know, range of people in
		
00:40:17 --> 00:40:20
			between what we need to be is
people proud of their faith, but
		
00:40:20 --> 00:40:25
			contributors, contributors, that
you're valued for your job. And
		
00:40:25 --> 00:40:30
			I've got a number of friends like
that, who, a friend of mine, for
		
00:40:30 --> 00:40:34
			example, he is working for a
housing association. When he went
		
00:40:34 --> 00:40:36
			there, he says, Look, I need to
pray, I'm Muslim, I need to pray
		
00:40:36 --> 00:40:38
			generally, in some, it's not too
much in lunchbreak, you can do
		
00:40:38 --> 00:40:40
			your middle prayer. And then the
other prayers are much later. So
		
00:40:40 --> 00:40:43
			it's okay. But in winter, it's a
bit of a challenge, because all of
		
00:40:43 --> 00:40:46
			our prayers, you know, sunset is
at four o'clock. And then before
		
00:40:46 --> 00:40:48
			that, you got another prayer, and
then often when you've got another
		
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51
			prayer, so they said, Okay, we
look at it, because I mean, maybe
		
00:40:51 --> 00:40:55
			just making some claims they did
some research. And the next
		
00:40:55 --> 00:40:57
			meeting, they said, Yes, you know,
what we understand, you have to
		
00:40:57 --> 00:41:01
			pray as a practicing Muslim. We're
gonna rent a room in the thing was
		
00:41:01 --> 00:41:05
			a Holiday Inn days in next door.
Right? Very convenient place. So
		
00:41:05 --> 00:41:08
			he was he got shocked. He said,
No, no, you don't need to spend so
		
00:41:08 --> 00:41:11
			much money doing that I don't need
a whole room for myself for the
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:14
			whole year, I just need like a,
you know, about a, enough space
		
00:41:14 --> 00:41:18
			that just lets me kneel on the
ground. So they found a storeroom,
		
00:41:18 --> 00:41:20
			they put a cup in, and then they
gave that to him. But the reason
		
00:41:20 --> 00:41:25
			they will do that for somebody is
if we are contributors valued, and
		
00:41:25 --> 00:41:28
			we are seen as equal, with
everybody else trying to do the
		
00:41:28 --> 00:41:31
			right thing, then we're allowed to
do these kinds of things, if, you
		
00:41:31 --> 00:41:34
			know if we're allowed to do these
things. But if you try to claim
		
00:41:34 --> 00:41:37
			your so called rights without
actually contributing, then that
		
00:41:37 --> 00:41:41
			makes it very, very, very, and
I've heard some bad stories about
		
00:41:41 --> 00:41:47
			this, why it's my responsibility
to, to, to mention this. But I
		
00:41:47 --> 00:41:51
			pray that God make us all very
valuable, and make us contributors
		
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55
			and make us of those who are both
successful all of us successful in
		
00:41:55 --> 00:41:59
			this world successful in the
hereafter. Thank you very much for
		
00:41:59 --> 00:42:03
			this opportunity. And I hope you
all the best and many more
		
00:42:03 --> 00:42:04
			programs. Thank you very much.
		
00:42:10 --> 00:42:14
			So I actually in in I actually
referred to that. And then I went
		
00:42:14 --> 00:42:16
			somewhere else. So yeah, very good
one, thanks for picking that up.
		
00:42:17 --> 00:42:19
			The recommendation in Eat Pray is
that because it should be
		
00:42:19 --> 00:42:23
			something where everybody comes
together, and most of us won't be
		
00:42:23 --> 00:42:27
			big enough for that. So generally,
people have an area, they tend to
		
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31
			all come to a single place, which
is, I mean, the best place is a
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:35
			park, right? But in England,
that's very difficult for us to do
		
00:42:35 --> 00:42:38
			that each time because it could be
raining, it'd be very miserable.
		
00:42:38 --> 00:42:41
			So that's why well, that's for one
reason. The other reason is that
		
00:42:41 --> 00:42:46
			London has how many mosques? That
has, I mean, we have we have
		
00:42:46 --> 00:42:51
			about, I think 1 million Muslims
in London, which is about 15% of
		
00:42:51 --> 00:42:55
			the population of 8 million. And
we have I think, the last time
		
00:42:55 --> 00:42:58
			which was 10 years ago, but at
least 100 mosques then now we
		
00:42:58 --> 00:43:01
			probably have about 200 mosques in
London alone. There's just no way
		
00:43:01 --> 00:43:03
			with the traffic and everything
that you could all pray in one
		
00:43:03 --> 00:43:07
			place in Birmingham. I think they
tried to get a huge crowd in one
		
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			one place this year, but they were
still they had to have prayer in
		
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			mosques. So while it's ideal for
everybody to get together, maybe
		
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			burros can get together you know
because we kind of have our little
		
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			so there is a recommendation that
everybody come together so it's a
		
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			good thing to do it in a park when
you can it's we're not actually
		
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			dismissing the mosque for doing
that because in the time of the
		
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			Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
the Eid prayer wasn't done in a
		
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			mosque it was actually done
outside in what they call the
		
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			masala
		
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			the second eat is called a great
to eat because it's got much more
		
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			historical significance with the
first eat it's the end of the
		
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			month of Ramadan. That is
something that started in Islam
		
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			but when you look at the second
eat that comes from Abraham Stein
		
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			peace be upon him it's got a lot
more actions in the you gotta
		
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			sacrifice taking place is not just
the prayer, there's a prayer,
		
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			there's the sacrifice, there's the
tech beers on the day, there's the
		
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			Hajj pilgrimage taking place.
That's why it's a big eat the RFR
		
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			the day before, there's a lot more
going on during that time. And the
		
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			thank you for reminding me but one
of the reasons why I find them
		
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			very good to be close together is
because they're connected with the
		
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			months of hajj as I mentioned it
starts Shaohua starts the month of
		
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			hajj number two, you know
everything spiritual, you know,
		
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			the spiritual elevation that
you've received in Ramadan. Right,
		
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			I think it helps that the Hajj
comes again you get another
		
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			opportunity to remember God and
boost yourself up a bit more so
		
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			that it can carry you for the next
several months. Firstly, I find
		
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			that to be the benefit of it is
		
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			to clarify, right now we have a
square right it's a cube instead
		
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			of a black box Black box remind me
of planes. Right? So it's a cube
		
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			in the time of Abraham peace be
upon him it was not a cube it was
		
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			rectangle. So you know the
semicircular boundary we have with
		
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			it that was all part of it. So it
was actually the rectangle. He had
		
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			two doors want to go in and want
to go out
		
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			But, and it was on ground floor,
meaning the door was on the
		
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			ground.
		
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			During, over the centuries, the
house had become dilapidated. The
		
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			people, the Quraysh, the tribe of
the Prophet Muhammad, peace be
		
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			upon him before he became a
prophet. They decided to rebuild
		
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			it. And they said, We must only
spend our purely gotten wealth,
		
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			no, ill gotten wealth, and they
could only get enough supplies to
		
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			make it a square. And they had
another aspect that they put on
		
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			the one door and they made it
higher, so that they could they
		
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			could essentially regulate who
goes in. So it was made a square,
		
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			then the Prophet Muhammad peace,
we have an incomes. And he
		
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			mentioned a few times just as a
desire that if it wasn't that the
		
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			people had have just recently
become Muslim. And all their hard
		
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			work, they would probably see
destroyed, I would actually make
		
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			it turn it back into the
rectangle. Right. But I'm not
		
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			doing it because I'm concerned
about their sensitivities. So he
		
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			left it the way it was about 60
years later, 5060 years later,
		
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			Abubaker the lungs grandson,
Abdullah liveness debate, he'd
		
00:46:15 --> 00:46:17
			remembered this all along. He was
a child in the profits of the
		
00:46:17 --> 00:46:22
			license time. When he became the
governor, he decided to do that.
		
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			He made it into the rectangular
shape. So where's that gone? Now?
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:31
			His enemy had judged no use of
this is getting into history, but
		
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			his enemy had judging the use of
who hated him when he deposed him.
		
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			He put it back into the square.
		
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			Now he's gone.
		
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			The next leader, I think it was a
puja for a monsoon or somebody of
		
00:46:47 --> 00:46:51
			the Abbasids or somebody. He came
to Imam Malik, one of the great
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:54
			scholars of Madina, Munawwara,
that? Shall we make it back into
		
00:46:54 --> 00:46:58
			the rectangle as the Prophet
Mohammed had desired peace be upon
		
00:46:58 --> 00:47:01
			him? And that's when Imam Malik
said no, he said, This is going to
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:05
			become a plaything that every new
ruler that comes along every new
		
00:47:05 --> 00:47:07
			dynasty that comes along, it's
because deciding, no, we want to
		
00:47:07 --> 00:47:10
			do this because the other guys did
this or leave it now. So now we
		
00:47:10 --> 00:47:15
			have the square. Now, going back
to the actual question is that
		
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			it's not the house, which is
important. It's that location,
		
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			which is important. That's why
when you are up in the big hotel
		
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			or up there, you don't have to
face the house directly in prayer,
		
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			you actually face this direction.
And what tells us this is that
		
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			it's actually the atmospheric
location that goes all the way up.
		
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			And our belief is that on the
seventh heaven,
		
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			there is the Kaaba of the angels,
called the albedo, Mahmoud, it's
		
00:47:42 --> 00:47:47
			directly parallel to this, and the
angels go around that 170 1000 get
		
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50
			to go around it every day, once
they've gone around at once, they
		
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			never get a chance, again, because
there's just so many angels, we at
		
00:47:52 --> 00:47:56
			least can go every five years, but
they can't, right. So that is the
		
00:47:56 --> 00:47:59
			significance is actually of the
location as opposed to the actual
		
00:47:59 --> 00:48:00
			bricks of the house.
		
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			So again, in this one, you do the
sacrifice, then you're told it's
		
00:48:10 --> 00:48:13
			recommended this divided into
three. So if you've done a goat or
		
00:48:13 --> 00:48:18
			a nice lamb, you divide it into
three portions. One, you get
		
00:48:18 --> 00:48:21
			distributed among your family.
Another one you distribute to the
		
00:48:21 --> 00:48:25
			poor. And the third one you keep
for yourself. If somebody wants to
		
00:48:25 --> 00:48:28
			can keep the whole thing for
themselves. It's only recommended
		
00:48:28 --> 00:48:31
			to distribute that way. But the
idea is that you distributed so
		
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			what we've done in Hackney, we've
got a local charity, so we
		
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			actually
		
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			we actually from before eat, we
run a campaign that please whoever
		
00:48:40 --> 00:48:47
			wants to do eat for poor people,
let us know. We they do a local
		
00:48:47 --> 00:48:50
			sacrifice somewhere and they give
us the meat and we take it to
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:54
			homeless shelters, domestic abuse
places and other shelters like
		
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			that. And we actually give the
meat out.