Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Some Common Problems in Marriage

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speaker discusses the reasons behind misunderstandings in marriage, including sexual frustration and communication problems. They emphasize the importance of avoiding large talk and being mindful of partner behavior. The use of the Prophet salallavi as evidence of men hitting women, and the Sun SEL of the Prophet sallavi as evidence of men hitting women. It is important to avoid hitting women and giving divorce, and to not give divorce and be aware of rules of marriage.

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			Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim.
		
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			So what I want to talk about now
is
		
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			while it looks like 60% of the
people here don't seem to be
		
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			married from the, but a good
number is. And these things also
		
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			relate to people who are not
married is what are the main
		
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			issues in marriage, we spoke about
the first one which we spoke about
		
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			one of them, which is sexual
frustration and sexual problems.
		
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			The second issue that generally
comes up is communication
		
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			problems, which is probably even
bigger than the sexual problems,
		
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			communication problems.
		
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			We communicate in a particular
way, throughout our life, and the
		
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			people who are around us generally
get to understand how we speak.
		
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			Some of us speak very
aggressively. But people
		
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			understand that we are not
aggressive by nature. But that's
		
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			just the way we've learned to
speak. However, our spouse may not
		
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			think so. And they may take the
wrong message. Sometimes there's a
		
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			miscommunication in terms of we're
not able to clearly articulate
		
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			what we want.
		
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			So a lot of times, it's a
miscommunication of I thought you
		
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			meant this. That's why I did this,
or I thought you had said this.
		
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			That's why I did this. There's a
lot of miscommunication. So that's
		
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			why what then happens, some
people's personality is that if
		
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			something is irritating them, they
don't say it. But they don't
		
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			patient either. So if your husband
or wife is doing something, which
		
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			is irritating you, you don't say
anything, but you keep getting
		
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			angry that he should know better.
He shouldn't do it like this, why
		
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			should I? Why do I need to tell
him, he should know more, he
		
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			should know better himself. So
then what happens is, the anger
		
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			keeps getting built up, then one
day, he'll do something small, and
		
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			then you will burst. And then
you'll bring all of this. And he
		
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			said, like what's that got to do
with this? Do you see what I'm
		
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			saying? That's why the best thing
is that to do subpar, but if
		
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			something gets overwhelming ly
problematic, and you can't deal
		
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			with it, then you have a
conversation when you're calm,
		
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			that I don't want to have a
conversation when it's when it's
		
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			heated. Or when I'm angry, let me
have a conversation with you.
		
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			Like, if you don't mind, there's
something I want to speak to you
		
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			make a nice cup of tea or coffee
or nice cake, chocolate, whatever
		
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			somebody the partner likes, and
have that and then I just want to
		
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			talk to you, when they see that
the effort you're making, and then
		
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			the genuineness of your concern,
Inshallah, they should, they
		
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			should be able to deal with it. So
there's always ways to deal with
		
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			it.
		
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			The if you have children, you do
not want to bring up issues in
		
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			your marriage in front of your
children. Children are very
		
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			sensitive to these things. You
always want to do it outside away
		
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			from the children do not ever do
it in front of the children. Even
		
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			if it's about the children. One
thing you never want to do is, you
		
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			know, I never want to get the
children to pick sides. That,
		
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			Ahmed, don't you agree that your
mom is like this,
		
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			you'd never want to do that you
want to treat you teach your
		
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			children that when there is an
issue that they should be
		
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			unbiased,
		
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			right? And they should say no,
it's up to you guys, we leave it
		
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			to you. We can't say anything. So
don't ever call up children into
		
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			doing that. Another thing is that
if you're finding that your
		
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			husband and your spouse is between
you that you're always
		
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			misunderstanding, or you always
get blamed for misunderstanding, I
		
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			told you to buy this from the shop
and you bought this, right? If you
		
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			do keep misunderstanding, then do
what they call the
		
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			what you do is every time they
they instructing you, or they're
		
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			telling you to do something like
this, you repeat it after them in
		
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			your own words. You call it in
some books, they call it
		
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			mirroring. It may look a bit
weird. Sometimes, you know,
		
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			they've said, Can you do this for
me, or I want you to do this for
		
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			me. And next time we do this, this
is how I want you to do things.
		
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			Because you'll always get
misunderstood because you always
		
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			misunderstand the way to start
understanding one another is to
		
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			repeat what they've just said. Not
in the same words not making fun
		
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			of it. But saying, okay, so what
you're telling me to do is X, Y
		
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			and Zed. Is that what you mean?
And they said yes, or no, no,
		
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			that's not what I mean. Okay, so
please explain it to me again. And
		
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			then so you call it mirroring in
the beginning is going to look a
		
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			bit weird. But the purpose is to
build a better relationship and to
		
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			understand one another. So
communication problems. I'm saying
		
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			all of this in brief, because we
don't have time, communication
		
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			problems in a big issue. So sexual
frustration, communication
		
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			problems, big issue number three
money problems. They cause big
		
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			issues in marriage, money
problems. And of course, in that
		
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			we've already discussed that for
it's the husband's responsibility
		
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			to provide.
		
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			He's obviously going to do the
work. He should not be stingy.
		
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			The one thing which is allowed in
Islam is hint the wife of Abu
		
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			Sufyan or or the Allahu anhu, she
came to the house really is very
		
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			stingy. Can I just take from his
money? You said, Yes, you can,
		
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			that it was just build my roof,
right? You know, whatever you
		
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			need, you can take, you can't take
all of his savings, but you can
		
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			take enough to be able to live
your life with, right. So that's
		
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			allowed. But the main thing is
money problems to the husband
		
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			should not be so stingy that he
makes them literally go through so
		
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			much difficulty to get money
because it's his responsibility to
		
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			provide them a decent amount of
clothing, a decent amount of food,
		
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			and a decent amount of shelter,
which basically means that every
		
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			wife is due by Sharia, to a
separate accommodation doesn't
		
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			have to be like totally separate,
not just the bedroom separate, but
		
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			a bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen.
		
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			Right where it is out of the
interference. If you're living
		
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			with in laws, for example, even
then she's do that, of course, if
		
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			she doesn't want that, or she you
know, she's agreeing not to have
		
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			that, then it's fine. But
otherwise, by religious
		
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			obligation, that is a
responsibility. All right. That's
		
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			the reason, of course, for
daughter in laws to make Hitler
		
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			and serve the father, the parent
in laws is a huge reward. Right?
		
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			That's one way of getting closer
to your husband as well. But if
		
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			they're abusing her, then she has
the right to be separate. Okay.
		
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			Another problem with with where
money problems come is that she is
		
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			asking for too much because she
cannot manage her spending or her
		
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			needs her desires. She's got
friends whose husbands are very
		
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			wealthy. So they're buying her
Mercedes SUVs, and she doesn't
		
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			have a car. So now she feels bad
that my husband can't provide it.
		
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			Now poor guy he's struggling,
right, he doesn't have such a job.
		
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			So she starts comparing other
husbands to her husband, this is
		
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			not a way to live in this world.
Right? You got married here, money
		
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			should not basically comparing
yourself with others, and your
		
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			husband with others should not be
the reason for you to break up a
		
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			marriage like this and mess it up.
You make dua to Allah for Baraka.
		
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			And hopefully in the future, you
can do this. You can have, you
		
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			know, whatever salad and whatever
you need, but otherwise to make
		
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			undue demands, because remember,
your husband has to focus not just
		
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			on providing for now, but maybe
provide a house, buy a house, and
		
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			obviously for the future, for the
whole family, there has to invest
		
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			for the future as well. Sometimes
you do have cases where the
		
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			husband is mismanaging his money,
right? Sometimes you have the case
		
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			where the husband is more focused
on his family, which is in another
		
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			country. So he makes the family
here suffer where He sends all of
		
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			the excess and more than that
income to his parents, whereas
		
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			they don't need that much. husband
should be careful about not
		
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			neglecting because the other might
have written that if you've got a
		
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			person, he's got parents, and he's
got children, and he's only got
		
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			enough
		
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			wealth, money to either feed the
children or either feed the
		
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			parents who who is his
responsibility towards father and
		
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			mother or children. First,
		
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			children is first. Right? This is
obviously, most people aren't
		
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			going to be in such a straight.
But this is a very technical
		
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			question. You've just got enough
that you can either feed your
		
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			children or your parents, your
children come first. Right?
		
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			Of course, that doesn't mean you
neglect your parents completely in
		
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			other situations, and you don't
neglect your children either
		
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			completely. This is how ideally
husbands should be
		
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			then. So we spoke about
communication problems, money
		
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			problems, problems with sexual
intimacy. And lastly, we want to
		
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			dis there's so many other problems
that could come about such as
		
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			infertility. The wife cannot have
children.
		
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			That is a very tough one. The
husband wants children and then
		
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			poor woman, not only her husband,
sometimes the husband didn't say
		
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			much but the in laws, the extended
family. They stopped blaming her
		
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			for it as though as though she can
do something about it. Right. One
		
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			woman wrote to me, and I still is
still terrifies me today. The
		
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			Haunting message that I got, she
said she please please make dua
		
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			for me tomorrow or in two days.
I'm due to give birth. And if I
		
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			don't have a son this time, I
don't know what they're going to
		
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			do to me. She's just having
daughters, daughters daughters, as
		
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			though
		
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			she is to blame. Like blame your
son maybe because the chromosomes
		
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			come from both people. Don't blame
anybody. You're blaming Allah
		
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			basically that's what you're
doing. Instead of torturing the
		
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			this poor woman make dua to Allah
subhanaw taala. Allah says yeah
		
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			Hubballi mania shadow in earthen
way. Yeah, bulimia shad with the
		
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			cool. Oh,
		
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			oh yeah. So with the Quran or in
other ways, I don't mean your
		
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			shadow Akima. Right, Allah will
give you sons, he will give you
		
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			daughters or he will make you
barren, you can't have children.
		
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			So pressure doesn't help. If
somebody cannot have children
		
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			putting pressure on them doesn't
help
		
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			the triangle hamdulillah let them
you know, so, infertility is a big
		
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			issue I've mentioned in the book,
I don't have time for it now but
		
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			various possible holistic cures
for infertility. Right, holistic
		
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			cures for infertility, you want to
try all of them? If that is the
		
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			case, you have and make a lot of
dua to Allah subhanaw taala. And
		
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			then of course, domestic violence.
Domestic violence is
		
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			is a no no.
		
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			Agender generally tell people that
if you are being beaten by your
		
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			husband, right, if he's just gets
angry just beats you should tell
		
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			the police. That's generally what
I tell. I know, it's difficult to
		
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			do that. But otherwise, it carries
on.
		
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			Unless you can give him some other
Naseeha or whatever the case is,
		
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			and sought him out. Otherwise,
it's a habit. One day
		
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			Alhamdulillah I've never in over
22 years never never, never, never
		
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			struck my wife. I've gotten angry,
of course, I've struck other
		
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			people or beat other people up
before. So it's not like I can't
		
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			do that. Right? You know, when
you're in school, and that you
		
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			beat a few people up, you know,
it's easy to do that.
		
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			But I've never struck my wife at
all. Right? It's just not
		
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			something you do. The Prophet
salallahu Salam, you know, a lot
		
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			of people use the ayah in the
Quran. But when you look at the
		
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			Quran, it's, again, if you look at
the tough seals of the iron, Imam
		
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			Razi is very clear, and he's
writing at a time when there is no
		
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			feminism or whatever, he doesn't
have to be apologetic. But if you
		
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			just look at the way he's in his
Malfatti, will leave if you see
		
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			the coverage, it's amazing, is
based on that this is an organized
		
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			structure, the first you give them
Naseeha if that doesn't work, then
		
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			you stay away in the bed. Then the
third option he talks about
		
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			striking, but then even in that he
the way he discussed it now the
		
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			men who hit are not doing that,
and the Prophet salallahu Salam,
		
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			and then he says Imam Shafi says
what Turku have done, the while
		
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			the Quran, Allah is allowing you
like opening a door basin,
		
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			abandoning hitting your superior.
		
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			To be honest, in most cases,
especially in the West, if you
		
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			have to hit your wife, it's just
gonna get worse. So the purpose
		
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			for which the Quran even allowed
it, I'm saying is so that they
		
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			will get correct. But believe me
in the West, you hit somebody,
		
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			it's gonna get worse. That means
it's already too far gone. There's
		
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			no point of it. So many men who do
hit and use the Quran as evidence
		
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			is totally incorrect the way they
do it, totally incorrect. And even
		
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			when even our boss actually told
her he's talking about a miss work
		
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			like a straw. sighs You know? But
anyway, that's besides the point
		
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			the profit or loss, I'm said that
those who do hit they're not the
		
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			best of your they're not the best
of your men. Right? So I believe
		
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			that women should never be hit.
You should use every other every
		
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			other case. But you should you
should follow the Sunnah of the
		
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			Prophet sallallahu Sallam in that
regard. A friend of mine, who got
		
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			married
		
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			sometime after me within like
several months of the marriage, he
		
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			contacted me said, Sure, he said,
You know, I hit my wife.
		
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			And I was like, how did you do
that? Why'd you do it? Because
		
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			he's a decent guy. Right.
		
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			And I think since that day, he was
so regretful, so horrified himself
		
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			that he did it. I think,
		
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			what the issue was, is that
Hamdulillah I think, since then
		
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			he's never done it again. Right,
as far as I know. But I think the
		
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			reason why he did it is because he
saw somebody, he that's what he
		
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			was used to seeing, maybe in his
own parents. A lot of the hitting
		
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			is a cultural thing.
		
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			And it's not just Muslims. I saw a
documentary about Papua New New
		
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			Guinea and other parts of the
world somewhere, non Muslims, they
		
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			beat their women, they said,
that's the only way we get
		
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			anything done. And like the women
are used to it. So it's like they
		
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			don't do anything until they get
beaten or some weird culture is
		
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			really messed up. Right. That's
why the culture of men hitting
		
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			needs to stop.
		
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			And believe me, even with
children, people think the only
		
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			way to get anything to do with
them is to hit them for hitting.
		
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			Once you get a child even used to
hitting then you have to hit him
		
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			every time you really want him to
get something done. There are so
		
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			many other measures you can use
before them. And you can learn
		
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			that through disciplining
procedures, you know, there's lots
		
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			of right thing written about that.
		
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			So
		
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			yeah, if you've seen your parents
hits, and that's the way your
		
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			culture is, it doesn't mean you
have to do that. There are lots of
		
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			other ways to sort out matters
between you right
		
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			He said what we're trying to do is
his marital issue, scholars have
		
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			to be very open about it. And very
accessible about it. Because, as I
		
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			said, In the beginning, marriage
is what makes up the society and
		
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			community. So we need to try to
help and there's too many
		
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			problems, because there's a lot of
Jehovah about marriage. So the
		
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			fact that you spent two days here,
two sessions, two day sessions
		
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			here, may Allah subhanaw taala
make this a source of
		
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			enlightenment. My mindset of
coming all the way is and writing
		
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			the book is that marriages get
enhanced, because a lot of
		
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			ignorances a lot of problems. I
did not read any other marriage
		
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			book while I was writing mine,
because I didn't want to just
		
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			regurgitate what's there. I wanted
to write it from my teaching my
		
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			learning, mine and my experiences.
To make it unique based on purely
		
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			experience. It's not a thick book.
There's a bit of fit here and
		
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			there, but it's not a flipbook.
And finally, I do need to mention
		
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			just in brief, the divorce if men,
especially men, if you're thinking
		
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			of a divorce, right, that's fine.
You can think about divorces. But
		
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			one divorce is more than enough.
		
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			Okay, if you need to give a
divorce and you get angry, you
		
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			want to give a divorce. One clear
divorce is will do the job. That's
		
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			enough of a bombshell. That's one
grenade, right? It's done. Do not
		
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			throw three.
		
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			Because when you do salah, when
you do three divorces, then you
		
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			cannot come together again. I know
there are still a few fatwas out
		
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			there which say three is one
ignore me as opinion and so on.
		
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			But that is against the
overwhelming majority of the four
		
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			Imams, okay, according to four
Imams you will be divorced and in
		
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			Zina if you if you meet again.
Okay. So the best thing is to
		
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			restrict yourself that if you do
need to give a divorce one is more
		
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			than enough. I get so many calls
brother, I divorced three times, I
		
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			said, Why do you do three? I turn
them off first. So I'm not very
		
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			learned as a Why do you do three?
Then why didn't you do 10?
		
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			Where'd you get the magic number
three from? Right, I go if you if
		
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			you if you go beyond the red
light, are you gonna get penalized
		
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			or not?
		
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			Right, you're still gonna get
penalized. So it's a point of no
		
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			return and then they have to do
halala they have to marry somebody
		
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			else consuming the marriage then
come back. It's just this long,
		
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			ugly procedure. So if you do want
to divorce and you know, I would
		
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			suggest every man and woman should
go and tell 10 men in their family
		
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			about this. Because they all think
three it's necessary to do three
		
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			they say
		
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			that's where the confusion is. So
you should enlighten people
		
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			everybody should go and tell 10
people, Ashura right, that one
		
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			divorce is sufficient.
		
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			Because there are so many families
being getting messed up because of
		
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			this. Right? So anyway, and if you
do want to divorce, then do it
		
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			nicely over a coffee.
		
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			Don't do it just like that. Okay,
that's enough for me.