Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Shaykh Abu Aaliyah on Following a Madhab
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So how is it
that we have, say 30 sahabi, who are qualified most days?
But there's 184,000 24,000 of them
yet today,
yesterday I wasn't a Muslim. Today I converted to Islam
Alhamdulillah. Tomorrow I'm giving the fatwas right?
Because as you know, we have that ubiquitous universal chef share
Google.
So why am I doing it this way? Rather than all the kind of
detailed what is the definition of duck lead and the those are really
important?
Where does it apply? Where doesn't it apply it? These are important
but I want us to understand the hockey stick or the hockey the
reality of religious knowledge and qualifications.
Bismillah Al Rahman Rahim
Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala watercolour
see dinner? Have you been obedient Mr. hamady and while early he will
be here Jemaine I shall do Allah Allahu Allahu Allah Sharika Why
should one Muhammad Abdul Rasul Allah MABA Salam aleikum wa
rahmatullah.
May Allah bless you all,
to come and attend this particular seminar especially on on a hot day
such as this, but we're blessed not only to be in the masjid, but
to be in a very cool Masjid.
Over the last few weeks or months, I've been in a few mosques in the
UK.
whereby it was kind of like like 10 times hotter in the masjid than
it was actually outside.
1020 years ago, they had a fantastic AC system and whatever,
whatever.
The same old story four or five years down the line, it breaks
down and it unfixable.
That could be a story for the Ummah but Alhamdulillah Allah has
something really good for us in in store occupa to limit the pain.
Okay.
So the last time I did a seminar on duck, lead and mud hubs
Dr. Salim had no white hair in his beard.
This is the honest truth, not a single white hair, not even with a
magnifying glass. But mashallah Alhamdulillah so it's been quite a
while
and I'm going to make a confession.
You heard Molana Farrokh say that his own personal experience when
he was in college. Some people came and why aren't you raising
your hands? Extra? Everyone, everyone raises their hands in the
beginning Allahu Akbar. But before you go down in Morocco and bowing,
when you come up from the Roco bowing, why aren't you raising
your hands?
There's a hadith Buhari has this book cifre to salata, Nebby by the
late chef Alberni
and
Maulana Pharaoh didn't say these words, but what he was trying to
say was a lot of problems were caused
because of this, not just in his college all over the place, and
not just in the UK all over the place. So here's my confession.
I was instrumental in that back back in the late 80s. So by
1988 89,
I,
myself and a group of people, we came across such scholars such as
the late Sheikh halaal, Bernie.
And by 1989, we felt it a very good idea that this book of his,
which was in its 15th, reprint in the Arabic in the Arab world, we
should translate this into English, and publish it.
This has nothing to do with oil money from anywhere, all of this
from the 80s from 1984, up until 1995, when that group of brothers
including myself, were together as a group. It was all from our own
pockets, or from our markets, even if we believe taking money from
any Muslim is halal. Whether it's a country or government
individuals or organizations sorry, we never took it. We
thought we've seen too many elders, they get their hands tied.
When they get money. We see some beautiful alumna who they don't
have any money
and they say you know what, just do it out of your pockets with
with the knee or for Allah and Allah will unfold things. And we
thought as young people then 1819 20 years old at that time in
in the mid 80s. You know what, that's probably what we want to be
doing and when you're young as well, you don't like this idea of
the established establishment tying your hands you want to be
young and free and, you know to change the world anyway. So yeah,
I was instrumental in translating and getting that book translated.
Although, if Maulana Farooq is here I have no idea who that
individual was or whatever. Did I send him? No, no, no.
The reason why I would say that is because even with that mindset, I
was clear that all these ways of praying are fine. There might be
some actions in the prayer better than others, but all of those ways
are valid. And I had some other goal in mind. Some other things
needed to be changed, other than the other than the prayer, but
most of the brothers and the few sisters that were around they were
prayer prayer.
Why aren't you following the Sunnah?
And sometimes I would actually have to
get a reasonably knowledgeable Hanafi block brother and say, Why
are you quiet? Why don't you tell them?
That actually we are following the Sunnah? Because even Mr. Audra
dilla Andrew says this is the prayer of the Prophet Slauson. How
do you believe in Timothy Imam telling me he says the hadith is I
can't remember how to say.
And most of her father, Hadith masters, consider that this
narration about even Massoud saying, I'm going to teach you the
prayer of the prophets are awesome. So even Mossad is not
just an Sahabi or the Alonzo but he is one of the greatest scholars
of the Sahaba okay, if you if you put the 10 greatest Sahaba of
scholars of Sahaba implements all will come in the first five or
six.
Okay, definitely who come within the top seven, okay. And he is one
of the earliest converts. So when he stands in the masjid behind the
Prophet Slauson, unlike some young Sahaba, who are quite naturally at
the back, even Mossad is somewhere in in the first beginning lines
so, if you ever want to see who had the view,
certain muscle he prays the prayer and He prays a prayer exactly like
that he's not 100 Free obviously, but he prays a prayer exactly like
a more or less like Hanif is will pray today only raising his hands
once in the whole prayer the beginning that appeared to federal
era and the beginning puppet Allah Akbar.
So this is how I saw the process and praying
Wow.
But the person who said to Maulana federal the Hadith in Bukhari
hadith of Ibn or Omer
that this is how the process and prayed and he mentioned that the
process and raised his hand to the beginning then coming before
Rocco, and then coming up from the Oracle that's that
so then that brings us to an issue. Oh, hold on a minute what's
going on? It been Massoud describing the prophecy lessons
prayer even Omar describing the process as prayer maybe one is
right maybe one is wrong maybe one describe what he saw the process
of doing one time and maybe the other one described the process
and doing another time maybe the one describe what the process of
did later which canceled the one who saw some bras or some doing
earlier
what's the answer?
Who knows? The answer is who knows well love Anna what we know is two
different descriptions in this case of the prayer
so what is a layperson a non scholar leave it alone the season
to Alan
Lee De facto Dean that you may gain a deep understanding the
religion lever those type of scholars What about the rest of
us? I mean, who has settled until modern times who heads to *
Buhari at home
okay until modern print in the Muslim world.
Question When did the printing press who started the printing
press? Printing
where in what country did it start? Alright, what continent in
China? Oh, could start in China? I'm talking about the modern
printing press as but you're right that they had a form of printing
but it wasn't the modern one. Okay.
Oh, it could have been mostly you'll find it from Pakistan but
not this particular thing.
excuse to the Gujaratis
I'm neither Pakistani or Gujarati
Beirut okay. So that you might think in the Muslim world okay.
So, in 1450, about 1450 A German called Guttenberg started printing
the printing press in Europe, and within 50 years of the printing
press, the mechanical printing deprez Britain, Europe started
printing 1000s and 1000s of books on all sorts of things and then
reading level increased, and book reading became.
But this invention, for one reason or the other, didn't cut didn't
come to the Muslim world. Until the late 1800s,
three and a half centuries later, there's a few reasons for this.
But we needn't get into that. And so, at that time, if you wanted a
book in the Muslim world, say I'm an alien, and now I'm studying,
give me 100, free text, basic kind of free text that you study in
normal either, I'm going to start go to the mosque and study no role
either this basic text on Hanafi law filled
with my share with my Imam. But the first thing I'm going to do is
one of two things, I need that book.
Right, you can't go down to foils or Waterstones, there's no such
thing. We don't have the printing press like Europe. So we do it the
old way, I go to a scribe, a character whose job is to just
write books out, and then sell them.
And he will write me a book, normally that I will pay him some
decent wage. And I will take my little book, bound between two
leathers and whatever, probably going to be quite thick, even
though it's a small book, and the chef will, I will listen to the
chef Read, read his book, and explain it. He may not even read
the book, he may have memorized the text, whether he reads his
book or memorize or says it from memory, I will just make sure that
my version of the book, I will correct any errors. Because the
scribe you might have had big biryani, right and he's doing the
second page and he's a bit tired and one little word there gets
changed or whatever. So I'm going to check my script with his not
only that, the chef is going to say some very important words and
explanations, some wisdoms, I'm gonna write that on the margins
get cut off, okay.
And that will be my notes. And by that way, I would have done two or
three things by the end of the month or the two months or the 10
months it would have taken me to study this book one, I would have
studied it with a person
who studied it from a person who studied it from a person all the
way back to the author of the book himself.
The imam who wrote the book, so there's a broke there's an
unbroken chain or Senate.
And that person would have studied not that book because he wrote
that book, but he would have studied fabric from his teacher
who studied from his teacher from his teacher all the way back to
Navy, Abu Yusuf, who took it from Abu Hanifa Navy from Muhammad Musa
hacer una che Burnie who took it from Abu Hanifa someone like that,
or maybe from that Howie from his teachers from che Barnea, Abu
Yusuf something like this.
So I wouldn't be part of a chain that goes and that would also
obviously go back to the prophets listen to I would have corrected
my text. So there are the printing error is weeded out. So the
authentic version is there. And three, I would have learned the
explanation of these words.
That's what scholars would have done and students on that path
would have done something like that. The rest of us
even Masood, no raising hands and Oh, Rafa Dane, even O'Meara Rafa
Dane, you know what I? I can't look into Buhari what he's telling
me the is that a bit? Is that the name of a video Arnie? Is that the
name of the person? What is it? I don't know what this term is. The
thing is, I can't look into these books anyway. Where am I going to
find them? Where is this ID? Okay, and even if I got it, look at the
language of the head if this is classical. This is classical. I'll
tell you how it's like, anyone tries to read Shakespeare?
Shakespeare William Shakespeare, okay.
Late 1500s Elizabeth veneer really difficult, but he speaks he's
speaking English. But it's difficult because it's not the
English we speak anymore. If anyone who speaks ought to do
here, like a year like a up person or a Karachi I would really high
class or do okay. And you get them to read the early writings of Shah
Wali, Allah Datlow. We are that much Allah Allah in order when
order were just starting, they wouldn't be able to understand
half of it. Why? Because the order of today even the first class or
do even though although of
who is the famous Pakistani poet stroke defender of Islam.
Allah Akbar Rahmatullah Allah, even his audio is very, very
different than the order of
when or do just started in the time of shower Lilla order at the
time of shower, Lila had
Much more Persian words than Hindi Sanskrit words. And it had much
more Arabic words. And so it's really difficult. So sha Allah,
Allah, he started writing in order at that time, as well as Arabic as
well as Persian. But the order that he wrote is like Shakespeare
and orders, like, it doesn't matter what type where you turn
the page, it just doesn't make sense. The Arabic of the Prophet
Saracen is very much like, Shakespearean, while you're alone,
although
it's not, we just don't use it anymore. So even if I had Buhari
or whatever, there probably are words and things in there, we just
don't use we don't understand it needs to be explained. So what
does the lay person do?
He must, she must follow Alandra soul, every Muslim must have a
must do that. Every Muslim must have a an aqidah a belief that
Allah and His the results of Allahu alayhi wa sallam are to be
obeyed.
That is the that is one of the basic meanings of la ilaha
illAllah Muhammad Rasul Allah alayhi salatu salam. Now, this
article, Euclid and mud hubs, The Good, the Bad, and the ugly part
one of two. And then the second part is there as well. It's very
detailed. The first part has about 25 points with you know, with
proofs and references, and whatever. And the next part has
another 25 points, please, whoever is really interested in this
issue, please read the article. But today, I don't want to go into
all of that heavy stuff. I just want to keep it light in concepts.
And I'm so glad that Maulana forum started with that anecdote.
Because really, that's the crux of the matter.
How do I know that this cifre to sit out? There was an English
translation from an Arabic How do I know that? Who is this person?
Is he a scholar? Is he not a scholar? Did the translated
translated correctly? Did they not? Is it done by
the Secret Service? Is it not? I don't know. So, if someone says
you know what, my share hasn't told me about this, that isn't a
wrong answer, that is natural.
That is natural.
Because there is an element about human life, whether it's religious
life,
medical life, any life there is an there is an element about human
life that every human being agrees on, which is this that some areas
of life require high specialization
require someone to be qualified in a serious way.
obvious examples are doctors there's a difference between
putting a plaster on your son or daughter because they fell down
and raised their knee in the playground and putting a bit of
plaster on there. And and doing open heart surgery or triple
bypass clearly one requires very little qualification just some
common sense where you stick the plaster After cleaning the wound,
common knowledge and the other one requires not even your average
doctor or GP can do a triple bypass. So even amongst doctors,
there are degrees of specialization
amongst the Alanna, they are the specialists of religion How do we
know this the Prophet SAW from said
in an authentic hadith Allah Allah ma what are the tool Ambia so
along with the the verses that Mowlana Farrokh pointed us to in
the in his introduction, just a little higher than
that tell us the importance of the scholars. Okay. And how in one
sense they are part of the old Amer those in authority, those in
authority in terms of knowledge.
Okay, and it would really be nice if the Amara, the political
leaders did actually listen to the religious leaders and we might
actually be somewhere but anyway, another place another time. There
Alana the process and said what are the two Ambia they are the
inheritors of the prophets.
Question
roughly.
How many Sahaba were there
in the time with rasa some roughly? Yes, young man 15,000
Boy, that's a good good number. Okay, what do we have here?
Someone has been studying
martial law, Allah bless you, both of you are 100 in law. So yeah, we
have about 15 15,000 Sir hobbies, biographies recorded.
We definitely know their names, probably the names of their
fathers and half of them we know where they died about 15,000.
Probably 12,000 is closer, even 100. But let's say 15,000 But
actually, there were between 102
On on the hospital without the final hedge through looking at all
the evidences and whatever,
many Hadith scholars like a Sahaba in the movie, he says there was
between 123,000 and 124,000, Sahabi 124,000?
That's a lot, right?
Those are people who are Muslims who saw the process and even if it
was for one second, let alone one week, one year, one decade
124,000. Okay.
Out of the 124,000 in the time of the prophets lesson, and even
though this word isn't used at that time, how many were MFIs? How
many Sahabi could give up was not before that. How many Sahaba spoke
Arabic out of the 124,000? Doesn't matter what level of Arabic, but
how many spoke Arabic?
100,000 100,000 Any other guests? Could we probably say probably
all? Yeah, probably all, at some level, even if they weren't all
Arabs and whatever. But at some point, they would have kind of
picked up something.
So they all speak Arabic.
They're all Muslims. They all believe in Quran they all so on
and so forth. How many of them will move this? Meaning that when
you have an issue, what does the Quran say? The Quran says in two
places. First, Allahu Allah Vickery In Kuntum, lotta Atla mon
asked the people of knowledge. If you do not know when you do not
know. Ask, ask who? Not any Luhan do not anybody, the qualified
scholar,
the qualified scholar, just like you wouldn't ask any Tom, Dick or
Harry, about some real serious medical illness, you'd ask what
who you believe to be a qualified doctor or physician, so on and so
forth?
Out of those 124,000 in the time of the process, and how many we'll
move this have a guess?
If
you think that's a good number 15,000. Before you answer, young
man, how is it that Kensington garden community has sent to young
moja heads to answer all their questions for them?
I'm okay with that. I'm really okay. Alhamdulillah the younger
the better. Alhamdulillah.
But it is an odd scenario, isn't it? The youngest of the German are
answering confidently and quite often correctly or near correctly.
All the questions. Wow. SubhanAllah. You?
You've been teaching him.
Okay, it's not four, but it's almost like four, there were
probably no more,
give or take. So there's not a precise number. There were
probably around about 25 to 30
people qualified from the Sahaba, who could give fatwas out of
124,000 people. This is not made up. No. No scholar who has
researched this even mildly will differ with these they might
differ with the number Exactly. But we have these scholars, and
quite often they're fatwas. Many of their thought was recorded
still. They might be part of larger collections. But we know
this.
We know this by three 400 years after the process and through the
works of Edna hasm. We know this by another scholar that Mowlana
photos. last slides mentioned even the AMO Josie or even I'll pay him
and his LAMINAM octane. We know this and we know this from other
texts. So how is it
that we have say 30 sahabi, who are qualified most days.
But there's 184,000 24,000 of them.
Yet today?
Yesterday, I wasn't a Muslim. Today I converted to Islam
Alhamdulillah. Tomorrow, I'm giving you fatwas
because as you know, we have that ubiquitous universal chef share
Google.
So why am I doing it this way? Rather than all the kinds of
detailed what is the definition of duck lead? And the those are
really important?
Where does it apply? Where doesn't it apply it and these are
important but I want us to understand the hockey stick or the
hockey the reality of religious knowledge and qualifications.
So when Allah subhanaw taala said in that verse that Maulana Farrokh
explained the youth of Leah de facto Hopi Deen in Surah Toba?
He when He said
It we're talking about not just learning Li Li at the Alamo the de
facto because
difficul and Taleem is slightly different in their in, in
religious language learning is
probably most of us have done some level of religious learning
to football very few people have gone deep into it. Only the Omar
in this Masjid have probably done that and maybe a few to level and
are beginning to do that they've got their foot on the first second
third rung of a ladder that probably has 100 steps. So what
did the Sahaba do? Who were not these 13 of these when they didn't
know someone something of religion? Normally they don't need
any questions they know how to pray they know how to fast they
know they've got 10 camels and 20 sheep they know how much is a cart
to give. They know when Ramadan is they know how to fast in Ramadan.
Genuinely they know all this stuff, but sometimes a new thing
will come up oh, they're there their grandmother's died and she
has no husband she has no this no that so who inherits this is not a
common
knowledge amongst Muslims. But there is somewhere out there in
the Hadith or in the ayah a an answer, but very few people know
that but the Mufti is will know it. So they would go on these
kinds of questions to the Mufti. And the Mufti from the Sahaba will
say, yes, she heard you, she you inherit from her one sick one
quarter 1/3 or whatever the number would be, and they will go off and
practice this.
What the most these what the most different the heart Sahabi Sahaba
say, Well, you see there is a verse in the Quran in surah Nisa,
verse 112. And it says, cover will cover No, they will just say no
inheritance or Yes, inheritance 1/3 to third Bismillah. Next
question, please.
And you'd go and practice why because the Quran doesn't say, ask
the people of knowledge for evidence when you don't notice
this, ask them when you don't know. Asking, and why would you
ask someone in something very important because you
Why would you go to a particular person as a doctor to get your
medical question answered? Because what do what what do you have in
him?
You have trust, absolutely trust. You have trust that he or Kubus,
he is qualified.
In this particular area of life.
You have trust
in someone who is a scholar, but no one knows. Only he and some
other person knows he's a scholar, you not being disrespectful, you
wouldn't ask him because you're not clear. Is he a scholar not
even though he is but you don't know that nobody in the community
knows this. So there isn't any trust until you learn from someone
whom you trust that yes, this man is qualified, then you have trust.
That concept of trust in Islam
is given.
Fortunately, and unfortunately, the name of duck lead
that could lead
to Euclid as an Arabic word just means to follow. It means to plead
means in the past classical Arabic language, classical Quranic
language, when you get like a camel,
or a horse,
the number who horse you put blinkers on the horse to narrow
its vision, so that it doesn't get distracted by what's going on
there. So you know, it can just walk straight.
And then you put a loose,
you put a rope around the neck of the horse, and you pull it with
you. So I'm looking here now the horses will come the other donkey
or whatever else, that process
is called Duck lead that the animal is following me. He is the
mockolate it is the more college and I am the more colored it is
the follower and I am the one followed,
leaving alone, so that's where the Arabic word comes from Euclid but
very early on in Islam, the scholars used that Arabic word and
gave it a religious meaning.
That lead has two religious meanings. I mean, it has more but
for our discussion, it's just worth knowing there has just two
religious meanings. And it doesn't matter if someone says I disagree
here. They really have no grounds to disagree because this is just
agreed upon through the classical Arabic language is just known,
just like it's known. That no is the opposite of Yes. If someone
says Well, I disagree so BarakAllahu li Camino
you
Maybe you need to get checked up your head, right? Or maybe you're
not an English speaker maybe you're you know, you speak
Gujarati and you know, you don't know that no is the opposite of
yes, this has been one of one of the two, but whatever it is your
case, headcase or non language case, you have no authority to
speak in this matter, just the case. So it's a cleave meant two
things following so it means following.
It either meant bad following. So the Quran will speak about when
you can't when you tell them follow Allah and the messenger,
they say we rather follow the way of our forefathers, what even
though their forefathers had no knowledge or were on misguidance
there are many verses like this in the Quran.
The Muslims, were going to the Quraysh, the non Muslims of
Croatia, the non Muslims in Medina and they were saying, follow
Islam, follow revelation, follow up, follow the truth, follow the
light. And I say no, we don't want to do any do any of that unhappy
following? My clan, my tribe, my culture, my forefathers?
Allah condemns that type of following. And generally we use
the word to plead ama blind following, because you're
following yet
going against HAC truth. Then there is another type of following
which is the following where this discussion is about where Allah
simply says to the non scholars first Allah Allah decree In
Kuntum, lotta Allah Moon Surah Ambia. Ask the people of
knowledge, if you do not know, Hadith in the sun and of Abu
Dhabi, but there is fee now that there is some kind of debate
amongst the Hadith masters. Is it sound authentic? Or is it mildly
weak, but the meaning is correct.
The cure for ignorance is to ask the process and said in the hadith
of without the cure for ignorance, is to ask
the context of that was in a battle, someone got wounded at the
time of the process, um, someone got wounded on their head, it was
a really bad head wound.
Then he needed to have a full bath, they also this man with the
head wound that night, he's injured, but for some reason he
needed he needed a wholesome, a full bath.
But he felt that if I put water on my head, I probably make my wound
worse. So he asked some people
who weren't the scholars of the sahaba.
Some kept quiet. We don't know when. But one of them decided to
answer
and said, No, no, you have to put water all over your head. So he
did.
And he died.
The proposition came later, a few minutes few hours, I'm not quite
sure.
asked what had happened. They told him that situation. And he said,
You have killed him. You have killed him. Meaning through your
force fatwa. You have killed him. You have killed him. Why didn't
you ask when you did not know.
For indeed the cure of ignorance is in the asking early on. Oh,
huzzah Alia and other scholars even before our bizarrely we have
this issue, issue of
responsibility from a hadith of the process on this issue, the
process and said
if there is a qualified doctor
so I'm paraphrasing the Hadith, this is not exactly what the
hadith is saying, but
Bill math whom, if there is a qualified doctor, and he follows
all the rules and his patient dies, no demand no responsibility.
He doesn't have to pay the blood money. He's not guilty of any
crime. And in fact, that is just it, please. I'm really sorry that
you know, died and he'll probably doctor will think better next time
he does that, but he's qualified and he followed the right way. But
bad consequence.
But the Hadith talks about, though the the one who is not qualified
and does what he does and the person dies. He is guilty of
guilty of murder. The difference is not in the ending. The
difference is in this specialized field. When you did something, did
you do it as a qualified person or not? Same thing with you killed
him, you killed him. You weren't a qualified mufti, you should have
waited.
Or at least you should have just kept quiet and let him do whatever
he wants to take his own life in his hand.
So this is stuck lead and it doesn't matter if we don't call it
that. We can call it anything. We can call it rainbow. Okay, we can
call it video
Only there's something about hunger at the moment. Okay?
But changing the name doesn't change the reality that in Islam,
a non scholar like us, when we don't know a religious issue, we
go and ask the one who we think, reasonably think is qualified to
tell us an answer. Normally, that reasonable person happens to be
the Imam, of the Imams of the mosque, generally, that's the way
it goes. I mean, you don't go down Walthamstow market or Ilford high
street and just ask your question and just wait for any person.
Normally you think no, there must, there must have some qualification
from some dark room from some Islamic University or something
like this.
And that is the issue. Now what happens in the eighth not this is
before the eighth is that but I'm not gonna go into big history.
When modern modernity came along in the Muslim world, some Muslims,
and we're not looking into their intentions now, some Muslims, they
felt we need to revive Islam.
It's all gone, stagnant. This is why we used to be up now we're
down.
We didn't have the printing press. 300 years later, we didn't have
this 300 yet. 500 Jedi, we don't have this. Look at the French look
at the Brit. Look at Britain, look at France look at Europe.
And we saw their technological sophistication. Okay, and their
modern revolutions, you know, in the eye in, especially in terms of
ideas and science and ways to govern countries politically and
economically. And we said we want that.
And we said what went wrong? And part of the answer was, we feel
not everyone said this, we feel that these scholars sitting in the
mosque with their dusty books and grandmas inherit inheritance and
math herbs and you have to study this and you have to study that.
And then 10 years later, you're qualified at the moment our
countries are being colonized. And they just sit in in mosques,
studying these big books, some Muslims who had good intentions,
but maybe not wisdom, said look, we need to change all of this. We
need to make our Islam and our religious knowledge more modern.
And part of that was they saw that you know what Muslims, just blind
following. Chef says do this do this. A man with a beard who is
not the chef says do this they do that?
Okay, as one of the one of the scholars of that time said the
Alim says this is halal.
The layperson that Muslim says Bismillah Alhamdulillah.
The Alim says this is haram. The layperson says Alhamdulillah
Bismillah. The person who comes along he's not an ally, but he has
a beard and he says this is halal. They say Alhamdulillah Bismillah
because it's all just following following and they don't they've
lost the ability of who is to be followed who is not to be
followed, not even using the brain there. This is what some of these
Muslims thought. So we need to get away with this stuck lead. And
they found in the Quran. Allah says when it comes to when, when
when, when it is said follow Allah and the messenger. They say no, we
would rather follow our forefathers. So who is his Hanafi?
Here is this Sharpie here is the Maliki. Why is the Hanafi Maliki
while I lived in from the fourth century of of Islam, because
before the fourth century, Hanafi ism wasn't established in in
India, but by the fourth century of Islam Hanafi. The Hanafi
madhhab was more or less the dominant multiple of the Indian
subcontinent.
The Maliki mud hub was the dominant mud hub of West Africa.
The Shafi method was the dominant method of Southeast Asia, Malaysia
in places like that, and and in Egypt as well.
And the humble is just moved around here and there.
So when you ask these 100 feet, why you 100 fuel, my, my dad was
under feet, my dad's dad was under feet, everybody in our town is
under three, I've never left my town. It's not like I can get on a
train or a plane. Hello. So you're born in that place? You're gonna
die in that place, right? Someone who lived in some town in Bombay,
right in the 15th century had no aspiration, or I want to go and
visit the world. Maybe some has scholars traveled the world but
most human beings, including in this country,
has you just stayed in your town? Where else are you gonna go?
Everybody, all of your relatives here they will work is here.
There's no There's no concept of even traveling in that sense. So
these people said, Look, see these are doing what they're doing
exactly what the Quran tells them not to do. When it just said come
to Allah, Allah Rasool. And I'm telling you, there's a hadith in
Bukhari even almost said I saw the process of raising his hand and
these Hunter fees, they're just following their forefathers. And
they use that verse or those verses
to destroy the permissible type of taqlid. Of course, there are
traditional scholars reply to them, but for one reason or the
other
The voice of the traditional Islam
wasn't as strong as the voice of modern Islam. Just like today, the
voice of the extremists Muslim is not like the voice of the non
extremist Muslims, the voice of extremist Muslims always going to
get media attention. It's going to be high profile
other than that voice is like, who cares? doesn't sell papers doesn't
sell news. Right. And that is the issue today. And what happens is
I don't know if Maulana mentioned the word salad or not, but he
mentioned shareholder Barney. So I'll, I'll take it a step further,
the the Salafi dour and I want you to think of it just as not a
positive or negative just as a term.
Whatever reason it is called Salafi. Okay? The Salafi dour
from the 1880s.
Up until now, but in the UK from the 1970s.
Your 1970s but by 1980, it's roll up your sleeves. You have second
generation Muslims born here that are on this dour.
They unfortunately confused this. And they started using vs. Hadith,
the head of good thing that so many bid as so many wrong things
have been mixed up with the right thing. So much Muslim culture has
taken over sunnah as has become more important than following the
Sunnah. So they had a good idea, but their process of sorting out
the good from the bad was itself defective. And so they were always
going to be defective, even though they may have been well intended.
So the question then became for many people here who are at
university who go to college, maybe not from elders like us,
unless we were in college and university in this country, is
that it is a big issue.
It does become a question, do I need to follow a mud head as
suddenly madhhab Hanafi Shafi, humbly, Maliki or is it isn't the
Quran and the Sunnah clear? Why did Allah send the prophet to
Lawson? Did he send him so that the process was that you know,
what, 250 years after me will be a man called Abu Hanifa Malik, Shafi
Ahmed, you have to follow them. Even though the simple Muslim man
would think no, that's not what the process and came for.
He didn't come to tell us to follow somebody else. So maybe we
shouldn't be following mud hubs. Maybe these brothers are right, we
should be just going directly to Quran and Hadith. And doesn't the
Quran itself say that we made the Quran easy? Is there nobody who
will take admonition?
And didn't the process of explain the Quran and generally
explanations are simpler than the thing that is being explained.
And wasn't the process I'm sent to the whole of mankind, not just to
the scholars, but everybody, men, women, intellectual people,
farmers, candlestick makers, and bakers.
So why do we need all of this and it then confuses people?
And they confuse two basic things that the Quran speaks about?
And they think it's either this or that. So when I was growing up, it
was told to me by my Hanafi, teachers, It's haram for you to
read the Quran. You know, in translation, I read it in Arabic.
Who knows what what am I reading, but It's haram for you to try to
understand it.
On day one, I thought, no problem. Molana said so I think by day
four, when I spoke to my dad, and he didn't give me any answer, he
just kept silent, but he kind of Rahimullah he just kind of made a
face like that. On day four. I thought, This is odd. How can it
be a book of guidance and I don't know what it said.
I go back to my Maulana I pluck up enough courage to ask him, but
Molana Book of guidance. And Alhamdulillah they don't do this
anymore. And he did it with love. But I got a right whack on the
head. I gotta write whack on the head.
Right?
So basically, I mean, he didn't tell me to shut up but that was
basically a joke.
Right? I mean, you know, we thought that was an important
Islamic word jump. Right Be quiet. Mosh
must be there in the Quran somewhere.
But,
but that dilemma that someone like me had is really the dilemma but
if the Quran and the Hadith by extension, the Sunnah is meant to
be guidance for everybody. Why is it that we're following these
people?
Because, and this is where I just want to end my talk, and then get
to the practical thing with Mufti Abdul Rahman on mud herbs, and
then we can just have q&a and all of the details with the scholarly
proofs and
firsthand references are in these are part one, part two, okay for
anyone who wants to read in
Sharla
that's because we must be clear the Quran has to. For this
discussion the Quran has two levels of communication. On the
one hand, the majority of its message, the majority of its
message
let's say there are about how many verses in the Quran how many out
in the Quran
Okay, so let's leave the 60s or but it gets about six and a half
1000 You're right 6600 You let's say maybe not 66 as well. And then
we're getting dangerous to the mark of the beast and whatever but
yeah, borrow from my FICO. So, I will not ask anybody any more
questions, I will just ask these two young brothers their questions
in Charlotte's Anna and then you will have to tell me your names
after as well may Allah bless you. Allah bless you. And this is a
good thing. It's a good thing. I'm not going to go in how a little
bit shameful it is. Well, I'm going to focus on the positive
this is a good thing that two young people have the respect the
other and the confidence to answer and between them. They've got more
or less all the answers right? And these aren't common knowledge
questions. How many prayers do we pray in a day? What month to be
false? No, these are just to beat detail. And yet here are two young
men Okay? Who are able mashallah that credit goes to perhaps their
parents but in the law that their teachers and and the masjid
community in Sharla to Anna so six and a half 1000 verses out of
those six and a half 1000 verses only 500 are what they call can
do's and don'ts, halal and haram questions 6000 verses are nothing
to do with halal and haram in Islam. Halal and Haram in Islam is
that little
it seems a lot because we share some monotonous go around telling
you everything is haram. Okay, but actually just this small number
6000 verses of the Quran has nothing to do with that. So what
they do in their to do with Allah, who he is, how the heart can be
drawn, drawn and close to him, how the heart can fall in love with
him, why the heart should rely upon him.
What he prepares for the believers in hereafter what he prepares for
the disbelievers in the hereafter. How did he help his Olia his
Sahaba his his saints under under the Saudi hun the righteous
Muslims in this life in the in this world and how he destroyed
others.
Ethics, ethics
ethics
cheating is haram. Stealing is haram.
making false claims on an insurance thing is haram.
claiming a false claim with DHS is haram. Don't go to hajj on haram
money
taking more than my share in inheritance and my sister gets
less than her Huck or my younger brother gets less than his haram
speaking politely to people important because I will cover all
these ethical things.
All those things about Allah Akira Rasul, the righteous people.
All the spiritual things purify your heart, purify your soul. Come
to Allah be calm in Saline with a pure heart all those social
political things look you know what you can have a good economy
you can have good ruler but if all of you are disobedient in Hola,
hola, you Roma become in Hatha Yoga Yiruma be unforeseen.
Nevertheless, Allah changed the condition of a people of a cone
until they change what is within themselves. Those verses you don't
need any scholars to get the general meaning build Joomla
when any human being whether in Arabic or English translation or
Swahili translation here is Be kind to parents, they get the
message of Allah at some broad level.
When they hear do not lie, every human being gets the message at
some level.
But when the question comes,
when I have a gash on my head, do I have to still pour water over it
as part of Wado hustle? Or now that Ramadan has come along? I am
asthmatic. Can I use a pump inhaler, that blue inhaler thing
during my fasting time? Does it count as food? Or does it count as
a non food
that it's not going to be there directly in the Quran there's
going to have to be scholars who look at the Quran and Hadith and
say whoa this this this this this from there we can conclude halal
or haram
but the majority of the Muslims life of a human beings life is
gonna be with those 6000 verses which is why the Prophet Soissons
isn't in the Hadith in Bukhari.
ballyhoo Annie wala conveyed from me,
even if it's one verse, and the scholars differ this word either,
does it mean I have the Quran verse of the Quran? Or does it
just mean any Jerusalem of either any good piece of wisdom as a as
a, as a as a sound word?
majority say any piece of word but some say No, it means I. But the
point being is boldly who Andy Willow is, every Muslim here
every Muslim here
has a general duty to tell non Muslims the basic message of the
Quran if and if they can't say it themselves. So it's in it's in the
book, right? It's in the Quran, okay, here's the Quran, or here's
a translation.
Every Muslim has an obligation for doubly honus conveying the texts
of the Quran. So let's say I'm not a scholar, and I'm not. And I
don't know tafsir
I don't know tafsir Quranic explanation, I don't know,
subsidiarity computability, all these things. But what I'm going
to do is these young kids, these young Muslims who are just going
to start praying, they're 910 11, I'm going to tell teach them the
last 10 Surah of the Quran, because that's probably what
they're going to read in prayer most of the time, say Mowlana
self, can you teach them? No, I know, the 10 I know the last 10 I
can and I have a duty, therefore who NUS to convey that the text
the words of Allah's revelation, in this case to non Muslims, it's,
Allah is One, there is a hereafter, we will be Allah wants
us to do good by following his guidance, keep away from that our
deeds will be judged such and such and such thing at the head of
those good deeds, after shahada is the prayer and then the fasting
and so on and so forth.
I can convey that
we all have a duty of ballyhoo and you allow I believe oneness, but
there is this thing called doubly almanor That wo Nana convey the
meaning. I don't know the meanings of the budget call hola heard
method and for example,
W hold man I can only be done by the scholars conveying the deeper
meanings. deeper meanings in context can only be done by the
scholars, but all of us ballyhoo Angelo, I
when you confuse the two, then you have probably if I'm, to be fair,
the extreme position that says no, you cannot understand the Quran
unless you're a scholar, It's haram.
How did this non Muslim become a Muslim? Seven times out of 10 When
you ask non Muslims, how did they convert? They said, we picked up
the Quran.
Sometimes it's communication with non with Muslims.
But they picked up the Quran and Gottwald
did they understand something? Yes, they understood Allah is One.
There is no Trinity.
There is accountability from the beginning of human history, Allah
sent people of guidance called prophets, who taught their people
the ways of God.
And Allah just says follow the ways of Allah.
And each prophet then becomes the perfect example of how to be a
person of Allah, one of the apple Allah.
And non Muslim says, Yeah, you know, do not lie. Do not this
don't treat animals kindly, but tread carefully on the earth do
not cause facade fill out corruption. Yeah, you know what? I
think I can this way of life seems true. And they become Muslim.
Did they? That was the message of the Quran they got did they
consult a scholar? No. Did they need to consult a scholar? No.
Because at that level, the basic message of Quran is clear to
anyone even in translation.
But the fic details, not possible. So you none of us need a scholar
to know that drinking is haram. We don't need to say hold on a
minute. Let me ask you. If the Mangueira when he comes until then
we just sit there, like plums. So I don't know. Can I drink alcohol
or not? No, no, no.
If we start doing this to become chef worship, because this is not
the type of thing that we need to be asking any scholar about why?
Because the message of Islam about this is very clear. Same thing
with praying five times a day maybe some of the details are
different. Same thing with this, this this all of that is generally
clear, we don't need scholars, but when it comes to the halal and
haram, the prophet Slauson
understood from Allah, that this is a matter that only a few people
are going to understand. And these few scholars will become qualified
and they will have students who will become qualified, qualified.
And as the Islamic community grew away
from Medina, it had more and more issues
than when it became an empire with millions of people. It had more
and more issues. Now you have even all these non Arabs have become
Muslims, and they've got their traditions and their baggage and
their history. And they're asking all these questions. Is it halal
or haram? So by the time of Abu Hanifa, if in the time of Satan
of man or the man who let's say, there were about 200, Messiah 200,
religious issues, let's just say, by the time of Abu Hanifa, there
are over two and a half 1000.
Okay, if not 20,000.
And so Allah in each generation, gave those type of people who lead
the fucka who feed dean would say, you know, let's dig in the so that
we can guide people bit of the Light in the Light of Allah's
revelation Quran and Sunnah, in terms of is this halal? Or is this
haram? And that's why ending with a rough iodine issue, have raising
hands in print.
Whenever you get an issue, that on the one hand, there seems to be
some proof here to do this.
Even Massoud do reify iodine. On the other hand,
there is this hadith that says even Omer do refer iodine. How do
you square the circle? How do you make them fit? Whenever you get
something like that, which seems to be oh, what's going on? That
will always be a 50 question. But never in the Quran is it do not
lie. And then somewhere, somewhere over there, it says that you you
can lie as much as you want. And then you say, oh, what's going no,
no, it's always going to be clear.
It's never going to be, do not be kind to your parents, and over
there beat your parents with a stick and a cricket bat isn't
that's never gonna happen.
Nor is it the other way around, that the parents can beat their
kids with the cricket back or a stick or whatever, that that's not
part of Islam.
In fact, that would be prohibited at that level of law that are one
out there.
It's only in fifth that we have, we need sorry, we need scholars
and there is a consensus amongst their Allama which is why as
selfies, even selfies,
at some point, they will say I will ask this big Salafi scholar,
Allah Barney, for example, or this big salary share for bindaas, for
example, are this big Salafi Island? If not, they mean for
example, it's very unlikely, most Salafist salaries by now will say,
You know what, I'll go directly to the Quran or Hadith on this 50
issue, and work it out for myself, because they now realize that
their statements saying that 1020 years ago, was not just misleading
and misguidance but it doesn't work because as a non specialist,
you can't do specialized things.
Then the only other question that comes which is not what I'm going
to address, Chef Duran Duran is,
is these four sunny mud hubs that now remain, we used to have more
than four sunny Fichte schools. They're not schools of thought.
They're not schools of thought, let's let's use leave that
modernist translation their schools of Islamic law or scores
of detail of Islamic law schools of
the details of how to pray not how not pray, that's clear. That's not
from the details, that's clear message of Islam. But the details
of how to pray the details of how to pass the details of how to go
to Hajj Am I allowed to wear the modern sandals in hajj, am I
allowed to do is a mallet because in the hijab, the shoes must be
like this must be like that, so on so forth.
We have four schools left
in the 20 and the 21st century.
In the 15 Islamic century, we have four remaining Sunni schools left.
And we've had only for for the last 800 years. 800 years ago, we
had about six
in the time of Abu Hanifa, we had about 10.
But these four became the best codified the best documented, the
best recorded the best number of students who spread
the the body of laws, and set up schools and teaching
establishments such that everything else got the clips. And
even out under the for the humbly school is almost eclipsed. So
practically it's really three. And he's only been revived in the last
50 years, the fourth of the last, the last of the four schools has
only been revived in the last 50 years. Otherwise, for about 400
years. It too was on its way out. And maybe 100 years later or 50
years later, we could have said there are three Sunni schools. So
the number four isn't important is just what happened. And it wasn't
always four. It was more before and who knows. 100 years later, it
might only be three it can
unlikely be more than follow.
So, the question is I as a non scholar, do I have to follow one
of these schools in fic?
And so if I am going to, if I do have to and then I do have to be
Handfield Malika Shafi How do I do that? I'll tell you how you don't
do it.
My goal in life is to be 100 Euro Sharpie, I will be laying out the
bill I mean, Derek,
this is an Islam. Your goal is our goal in life is Allah janela
gelato.
And there are means to this goal. Some means are beautiful, some
means unnecessary. But there is no other goal except Allah Gerardo.
And it's nothing to be proud of being a Hanafi or a Sharpie, but
be proud in the right sense of the word of being Muslim. Attached to
the Sunnah of Al Mustafa SallAllahu Dailywell he was salam.
Secondly, Hanafi is aren't better than Sharpies and Sharpies aren't
better than Malik is and Malik isn't better than Hanafi is stuff
for Allah who? Who has any knowledge to say who was better?
fucky?
Do you think Abu Hanifa was the greatest fapy aina delille? Where
is your proof? Do you think Malik was the greater fucky? Where's
your proof?
Scholars between themselves have their own idea. But that's fine
when you're at that level you can decide. But assalamu Punjabis What
do you know what do you have the theories? Are you sharp he's know
about Shafi or Abu Hanifa nothing
you know nothing. So why are you even thinking and had you been
born in Malaysia, you'd been Shafi and then your instead of Imam
Shafi, the Imam will add them. This one, this is the ASABE This
is braderie This is bigotry.
But rather
these fix schools are a necessary means to the gold because without
them we don't know the halal and haram clearly. And if we do we're
getting it from someone who we don't know is he qualified or not?
And we're putting him between us and Allah and that is misguidance.
So, I will tell you for sure, definitely can't be following the
scores with this mentality.
And I would and I will explain or give you my own antidote
in this country and I know it's going to be painful but I want to
make it absolutely clear in this country
and there might be some justification but not entire
justification. Especially when young men like me was going around
saying no mud herbs no this no that are a fire day in the army
and Baba Baba, baba, baba don't have to. I'm I'm sure some people
reacted, I get that one, one react one action brings out a very
strong reaction. But now
we need to be clear. Okay?
That it's not about being Hanafy.
There are people in this area in this area south of Nigeria, who,
when it comes to a convert, the first thing they want to do is to
make that convert or Hanafi stuff or Allah just make him a McDuffie
upon the Sunnah attached to that Allah ma. And hopefully within a
month or two, half a year or something, this convert will
either gel with his local community and follow whatever
school they're following. Or in Charlotte, Allah will be guided to
choosing a school. Many converts choose the Maliki school because
in Muslim Europe, Spain, the Maliki madhhab was always
dominant, and they want to revive that. And it's something to do
with the hook of dogs as well. And garlic is the most lenient with
dogs.
I know it's, it makes the hunter fee and the humbling the Sharpie
shudder over.
A job, I will tell you, most of us either as humble is like myself or
Hannah fees are sharpies if we heard the rulings of the other
school, the Maliki School, which was almost at the same time as Abu
Hanifa. And in one sense earlier than that, why? And if in one
sense,
we think oh, what is this? It's because we have very limited
knowledge, which is fine. But at least let's be respectful of other
views. So the goal isn't Hanafy the goal is Allah. The goal isn't
sharpy the goal is Allah. But there was sailor the means has to
be qualified, Mufti scholarship. And I will leave it to shahada man
to explain that pot pot point. But I would like to just say
as a mocha demo to him, that even if the chef
who is probably the most I mean, I don't know everyone in the masjid
but between ourselves. Dr. Stream says he would like to think of
himself as a good student of mine the hockey reality is, even when
he first attended my circles, he was already an alum. I
And then within like kind of six months of like for, like 15 years
that we've known each other, he already surpassed me anyway. And
it's quite normal for the student to surpass the teacher. But he was
never my student. We were always equals. But he attended my
classes. Chef, shahada, Han is probably in fact between us and
Allah knows best. He's probably above both both of us by miles. So
irrespective of what Shahadat man says, in the month of issue, I
just want to know, to let you know, historically, the Muslim
scholars differed on the question of does a layman an army have to
follow one single method? One group of scholars said yes, he
does, from the time that the mod hubs were codified. Fifth Islamic
century up until now, he must and if he doesn't, religion becomes a
place thing today. This is halal tomorrow. That's the same thing as
haram tomorrow that is haram the day after it will be halal. And
you can see that with people in particularly solicit some Salafi
brothers and sisters who generally are not evil people are not miss
intended whatever. But sometimes,
oh, well actually, there is a view of the mother that says if you
travel, if you travel for more than four days to a city like
Glasgow,
okay, more than four days, okay. 20, press, one press, then you can
be a massage.
Okay, so if you travel for four days or less, you can be a
massage. But if you travel for more than four days, you can't.
And then they think they're going to Glasgow, and they think oh my
gosh, you know if I'm gonna stay for six days.
Right now I have to pay the full 300 fees. They have 17 or 15 days
there's like Jen, I'm 100 free today.
You can't do that with Allah's Deen because one day it was this
is haram. And now it becomes Geraldo the next day according to
what not according to detailed idealer proofs, according to my
Hawa, and one of the secrets one of the asstra of Aktiva
one of the secrets of following higher authority, not any
authority like a tyrant, or you know unfit for purpose rulers, but
guided OLIO Allama Abdullah in their gut in their themselves
following the Quran and Hadith, the secret of a diva is Rajul
insan Nimrod enough see Alam Raja Raja robbing a person leaving
following their own inclinations. And what what their own selves
loves to fall in what Allah Jalla Jalla Allah Who loves and that
happens because Oh, but the sooner says this, but my Mary G chata.
And I decided to do this, but inshallah the Sunnah is better. So
now I have made more jarhead than F's, even though it's just sunnah.
But at that highest stage, Allah purified my soul. So there were
two opinions. One, you have to follow madhhab that became the
dominant view of the jurist. And you can see the wisdom in that.
The other view is you don't have to follow a method. The original
pattern was there was no matter. But what you have to do is two
things. You have to follow qualified
fatwas, when you don't know and you can't pick and choose
according to your desire for days on this and no button going six
days I'll be having no. And because many people couldn't
follow these two rules
of the second opinion,
then the safer opinion, no doubt is the first view.
For what not for your ethics, not for your theology, your aqidah not
for the is not for that, just for the fic. And what is your filter,
in practical terms, some rules of prayer, some rules of Hajj, some
rules of fasting, a few roses, I've got a few rules of marriage
buying and selling, more or less. That's it.
As regards to cryptocurrency, this, that the other it's not
really a Hanafi Shafi Maliki thing, it's become larger than
that.
So you'll find that out this is not but its safety, its safety. So
like myself, who follows the second opinion but practically
knows it doesn't work in this age.
In our at least in this country doesn't work. And I can give you
1001 examples.
So at least have common sense that my journey is to Allah, and I need
to do anything and everything possible to make that journey
safe, sound and achievable.
Because everything else in life my brothers and sisters and elders is
a footnote.
Everything else in my life is a footnote to this journey to ALLAH
SubhanA to Allah, the hub Illa Allah Bhima Yabba to become
beloved to Allah by doing what pleases Him when it comes to fix
it the only way I know what pleases God is through these much
the head Imams, and their schools are fifth, which we call the four
mother hip
Hanafi Maliki Shanthi and humbly Radi Allahu Anhu Majima into all
of their Imams and their students. May Allah Subhana Allah bless
guide and protect their OMA of yesterday and today, just up on
the home for your patience. May Allah bless the two sides and two
love that we had. It's really lovely to see that Subhanallah
because I believe that the Amaya sifan wa salam ala l Mursaleen. Al
hamdu Lillahi Rabbil aalameen.
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Islamic essentials course that we have on there, the Islamic
essentials certificate which you take 20 Short modules and at the
end of that inshallah you will have gotten the basics of most of
the most important topics in Islam and you'll feel a lot more
confident. You don't have to leave lectures behind you can continue
to live, you know, to listen to lectures, but you need to have
this more sustained study as well as local law here in salaam
aleikum wa rahmatullah Ricard