Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Resisting Extremism

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the challenges faced by Muslims in various countries, including the lack of living with their], negative impact of peace and social conditions on their lives, and the importance of following laws and finding a culture that is not a culture of chaos. They emphasize the need for leaders to acknowledge and follow laws to avoid violence, and the need for people to be patient and calm. The speakers also touch on the ongoing conspiracy and world war, the sadness of shouts at spouse, and the importance of finding a culture that is not a culture of chaos.
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi wa Salatu was Salam

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ALA. So you didn't want to Selena what other early he was so happy

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about Rocco seldom at the Sleeman Cathedral on Eli Yomi, Dean and

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mother,

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my dear respected friends, we're here today, downtown Oslo, to

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discuss this

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kind of interesting topic, resisting extremism. I don't know

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how many times in history that this topic had to be discussed.

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But today, it has to be discussed. And one of the reasons that makes

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this a bit more pertinent is,

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unfortunately, we had all of these attacks yesterday in France as

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well.

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And

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it makes this topic, an important topic to discuss. The reason is

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that generally, we have

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in anybody's life, there's going to be various different

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attractions that a person has to do different things. People will

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call you to do different things. People have different interests,

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some of us are very laid back people. Some of us are very

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volatile people. Some of us are very hasty individuals, just by

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our nature. We just like to see something. And we don't think

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much, and we just follow it. Most people in the world of followers,

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very few people make up their own minds about things. Most people,

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they just see a trend. They see a certain new direction, that people

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are taking new style of something. And we don't think about its

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consequences.

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We don't generally think about how that will affect me. And we just

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take it on, everybody is very different in that regard.

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So

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that one of the most important things that has to happen for

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anybody is

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to educate oneself as much as possible to become more educated.

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Education is what will keep a person

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in the know how a person will be more aware, a person will be

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better placed to make decisions.

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And that's why education is so important. That's why one of our

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great scholars of the past, whose name was Amanda Herbie shamsudeen,

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the hubby was a great historian and a hadith scholar and a number

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of other subjects he had under his belt as well. And he said that one

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of the things that the this ummah, this nation will always deal with

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will be the problem of ignorance. Because when a person is ignorant,

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then culture

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trends.

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And any of these things will easily mislead a person. But when

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a person has knowledge, they can make their better place to make

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their own decision.

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Also, another thing is that the way the way this world works,

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there are constantly going to be challenges.

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Not everything is going to always be very clear cut. correct and

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incorrect. Right and wrong. There's going to be many things

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that will appear to be correct, appear to be right, appear to be

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important. And yet only after a person has committed themselves

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they'll realize and regret.

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And then it will be all about hindsight. I wish I did not do

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this. I wish I did not follow this person. I wish I did not make this

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move. Because it will be regret for the rest of your life. That's

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why it's very important to make decisions. Challenges are always

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going to be in front of us. And that's why there's a saying which

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says kafer yet Ducky manleigh Yeah, man, Lady Maya turkey. This

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is an Arabic saying which is that? How does a person abstain and be

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careful and be cautious when he doesn't know what to be cautious

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from?

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It's important to know what to be cautious from what's right and

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wrong. What's wisdom? What is wise, what is prudent? If a person

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doesn't know that, then they're going to be easily led into

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something that is unwise. So one has to be aware of this.

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So today's discussion, just to clarify for those sitting here

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just so that you don't have

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assumptions that it may be about this subject or that subject and

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then I don't want to

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I don't want to dash your hopes. What this topic is about

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There is the potential for

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mischief, and how to avoid it. How a Muslims approach should be in

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times of confusion.

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What a Muslims approach should be in times of confusion, how they're

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supposed to deal with things, how they're supposed to look at

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things. So the whole idea of this is how do we confront challenges

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that the world is facing at this particular time? This is quite a

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unique time in the sense that for Muslims, especially for Muslims

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living in the West, in generally non Muslim countries, is

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especially a challenge for us. It's a challenge for Muslims in

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Muslim countries. I mean, as bad as it may sound, unfortunately,

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the Muslim world is on fire right now. There are just so many

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problems, people fighting with one another. And beyond that, just the

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social conditions.

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There's no safety, you can't travel at certain times, there's

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curfews, you could be killed when you're outside. There is no

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balance in terms of the politics in terms of just the safety of the

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country. There's no Aman as the Arabic word is there, to get just

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something basic done for your everyday life, you have to pay

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bribes. So

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there are some major challenges that people are facing,

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unfortunately. So in the West, who our challenge is a bit different

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in the sense that we're not even under a Muslim rule. To start

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with.

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We have to live with our neighbors, we have to live with

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everybody. And we have to maintain the peace that we're living in.

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And at the same time, we have to fulfill our obligations to the

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Muslim world. That is why this is a bit complicated for us. And this

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is what can be exploited to lead somebody to extremism. Because if

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somebody comes and says to you, what's your concern for people in

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Palestine? What kind of concern you have for people in Iraq or in

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Syria and in other countries? What is your concern? What have you

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done? There are many things that we can do.

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And there are many things that we can do that are completely legal,

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right? Correct. And inshallah useful and fruitful. But there's

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also many things that a person can do in any situation that is led by

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anger, led by frustration and blindness. And most human beings,

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they like quick answers. They don't want long term answers. So

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sometimes the options that are being placed in front of us, or in

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front of an individual may seem like, yes, this will cause a big

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uproar. And this will make this will bring about more results.

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Now,

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that is, the whole challenge in front of us is this, what is the

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right response? How does a person restrain themselves and think

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through these things, and become educated and do things in the

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correct way?

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Because there's no point doing something you regret later. And it

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brings on more harm. Because so far, a lot of things that people

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have done, especially on the extreme side, has only brought

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about a bad reaction for Muslims. Today, in many countries in the

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West, and the world over generally, and especially if you

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want to travel, the world's become a more difficult place. If you

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look like a Muslim, if you don't even look like a Muslim, but

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people think that you're a Muslim, whether you're a Hindu or a Sikh

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or you're just brown skinned or you look different, then you

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would, you would you would face a lot of hassle. So

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what kind of logic is it that tells us that you do something

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that's aggressive, extreme, and then you trouble millions of

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people who are living peacefully into making life difficult for

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them.

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What a person might be trying to do is that they see oppression in

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parts of the world and there is definitely oppression and there's

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no doubt about that. We won't say there isn't. There's a there's a

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there's a lot of oppression from in different parts of the world

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against Muslims, huge subjugation, support for the wrong kind of

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leadership, and so on and so forth. So now a person wants a

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very fast, quick result or solution for this. So they think

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doing this act, this heinous crime, or this particular dramatic

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measure, will will sort things out, but what does it do is

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actually makes it worse for the Muslims the world over traveling

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today has made it has become so much more difficult than it was 15

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years ago, than it was

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20 years ago. So with everything that has taken place, is it making

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it easier with what's happened in France yesterday last night? Is it

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going to be? Is it going to make it any easier for Muslims? It's

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already a bad situation, is it going to make it any any better.

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We never heard of people taking a Muslim woman with a hijab on in

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London Underground in the tube, and pushing her onto a train as it

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approach Alhamdulillah she was, she didn't die because he just

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didn't do it. Before the train came, he did it after it somehow

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Allah saved her. But you didn't hear about this 15 You know, even

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when there were racial attacks that were racist attacks, but now

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it's a it's a different type of racism. It's an extreme. It's

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almost like they've justified their racism. So these kinds of

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acts perpetrated by certain Muslims, what it's going to do is

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it's going to justify racism. Whereas racism is a crime. Now,

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they're going to justify to themselves that it's right to do

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this, because these people are out to get us. I remember when I was

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in America, give a talk in one place. And at the end of the talk,

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this woman stood up from the back and she said, wow, you know, this

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is so important that we heard this coming from you.

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It was so important that we heard this coming from you guys need to

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speak more about the peace of your religion, and the fact that these

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events around the world are not necessarily always supported by

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you guys. Because we always think that it's going to be somebody

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who's going to blow up. I mean, as gross as that sounds, and as

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foolish that sounds, that's exactly what she said. She said,

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this is so important. So

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the most important thing is that what is the challenge in front of

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us? And what are we supposed to do about that? A group came to Imam

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Ahmed Hypno, humble. Humble is one of the famous Imams of the Muslim

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mean of the Muslims. He was in Baghdad, and he was one of the

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most respected scholars of the time. And he went under huge

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Inquisition, from the ruling party of the time, the ruling

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Khalif of the time and he went through severe persecution at

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their hands, He was whipped and so on and so forth. But despite all

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of that, look how calm he is a group came to him in Baghdad to

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his house. And they were speaking about a particular decision that

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the government had taken at that time about the Quran. So it was a

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religious matter. Right. I don't want to go into the into the

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details of what exactly the discussion discussion was about

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because it's a complex.

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It's a complex theological discussion about creativeness of

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the Quran, that is the Quran created or uncreated? Is it the

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uncreated Word of God? Or is it the created Word of God? So the

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opinion of the Muslims in general, the scholarship is that it's

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uncreated Word of God. Whereas the particular ruling party of the

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time, the Khalif of the time rather, his he had taken an

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adopted that opinion that it is created. Now, a group of people

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came to Imam Ahmed, and you want Mohammed was the one who had been

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persecuted for this particular opinion. Meaning he was called in

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and when he when he refused to agree with the, with the

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government government's position on this, He was whipped. And he

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was imprisoned for a while. Now, when these people came to

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discover, and they said that look, this particular doctrine, this

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false doctrine is spreading, we need to do something about it. And

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he said to inform others to read Dune, what do you want? Like, what

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are you saying? What do you want to do about it? You want to do a

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march outside? Do you want to get some scholars and have a debate?

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Or do you want to go and fight? Right, you know, what is it that

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you mean that we need to do something about it? So they said

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that that is exactly what we've come to consult with you about?

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You know, this is something that we're hoping that you will tell us

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what to do about it. Right. So then he said to them,

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he discussed he discussed with them a while, and then he must

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have seen some kind of maybe extreme ideas coming from them,

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maybe trying to get him to justify. So then he said to them,

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he said it could be nohcra TB, Kullu become

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C for them, it was the fact that this is a evil. This is a bad

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doctrine. And something needs to be done about this. So what do we

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do about this?

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He told him that it is necessary for you to think bad about this in

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your heart. Understand, it's bad. Look at it negatively. Or they can

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be nohcra like refuse it in your hearts be Kulu become. And then he

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said what a toddler? Oh, yeah, the mentor at he or Willa Toggler Oh,

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yeah, the mentor at him. But it is not right for you to leave obeying

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your leader, meaning it's not permissible for you to stop

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obeying the laws of the land. Yes, you

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You feel bad about it, you refuse this idea in your mind you

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disagree with it. But from a parent perspective in terms of

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your, your relationship outside, you have to continue to obey the

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leader and the laws of the land. You can't you can't you refuse to

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do that. And then he said,

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What are the short core Arsalan Muslimeen

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while at the speaker Dima, Dima al Muslimeen. He said, Do not break

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the rod of the believers don't break the unity of the believers.

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Because clearly in this not everybody is going to support you

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if you did go and start to violently resist. Now remember,

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here, there was no persecution. It was just the doctrine. It was a

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doctrine that they had, they had adopted, it wasn't like they were

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killing people on the streets necessarily, at that time. So to

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resist against that is saying, think bad about it, but continue

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to obey the laws of the land, because they're Halal to obey,

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they're permissible to obey, they know that there's nothing haram

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there. But do not break the unity of the believers and do not spill

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your blood and do not spill the blood of the believers.

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So you might spill other people's blood, but there's going to be a

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comeback, there's going to be a response. And when that response

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comes, whatever you can do, it's going to be worse, what comes

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back, because they're going to have the whole army, they're going

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to have the whole state apparatus against you. And what they can do

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is going to be much more violent than what any of you can do. So

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don't spill your blood or the blood of the muslimeen. And then

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he said, on the roofie, activity, Americom was zero. Think about

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think prudently. Think prudently about the consequences of your

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actions, think about what's gonna happen in the future, and be

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patient. Now he's giving them some way to comfort themselves, because

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at the end of the day, they are feeling really bad about this. And

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feeling bad about something is nothing wrong with that. Humans

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have to have a conscious, humans have to feel bad about things if

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you become so laid back, and so cowardly, that you don't even

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think about what's right and wrong and think bad when something wrong

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is happening, then that's also wrong. But be patient was mero be

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patient had yesterday who Barone? Oh, you start our home in 13. In

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essentially what he said here, in a very kind of intricate way, he

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said, until the obedient person, that good person will find some

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kind of solution and relaxation from this, and delivery from this,

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or

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you will find an escape from this kind of tyrant, meaning wait until

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Allah does something for you. They didn't listen to him.

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They heard this but they were so fired up with their zeal, that

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they didn't listen to him.

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What they did was they tried to get his nephew on their side.

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They went to his nephew, Imam Ahmed Hypno humbles nephew and

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they spoke to him and they said, Look, this is our cause. Would you

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like to join us? He, his father heard about this from his son, and

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he discouraged him. He said, Look, your uncle is a Mr. Muhammad. He's

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already worn them because of a reason. There's a very strong

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reason that he's worn them. And Mr. Muhammad has the right to, you

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know, has the right reasons for this. So you should stay away from

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this. So he stayed away from this. Now, unfortunately, what happened

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afterwards, they didn't listen to him. They did what they thought

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was going to be right. But eventually what happened is

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nothing. They were killed, others were in were were imprisoned, and

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they did not further their cause at all.

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But very soon afterwards, very soon afterwards. The regime

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changed after Martha Cymbala after Mona Rashid and martyr similar the

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beliefs eventually motiva kill Bella became the Hadith. And he

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was totally against his whole ideology. And he revered Mr.

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Muhammad in A humble and so on and so forth. So patience is required,

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you can't have a quick fix solution. Unfortunately, in this

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world that we live in, it's not just people who have this idea to

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have a quick fix and solution for everything. Politicians do the

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same thing. Nobody is willing to think really ahead and look at

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things very holistically, spiritually, in a way that

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everybody will benefit from it. What happens most of the time is

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that everybody wants a quick solution. So while there's people

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on the streets, getting up and trying to do something, the

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government also are governments in different parts of the world, like

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in America in England, I know. Right? I don't know too much about

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Norway, so I can't speak as much about Norway, but they they then

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have these blunt instruments by which they try to they try to

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oppress them

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oppress the older Muslimeen. And what that ends up doing is that

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that actually then creates more people to support that initial

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group, that

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they actually make the initial group into martyrs by sometimes

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doing this. So this is just the approach that everybody's taking

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nowadays, which is highly problematic.

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That's why care consideration calmness, that is what should lead

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a person in these times. Because Abdullah him, no matter what are

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the Allahu Anhu he relates a hadith, in which the Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said in NASA to set a cool Omoro

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Mustafa hertz, there are definitely going to be matters

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that will come about which are going to be highly confusing.

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They're going to be really creates a lot of doubt in your mind,

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there's going to be very confusing, you won't be able to

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see night from day right from wrong, you won't be able to see

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that for Alikum. But

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it's necessary for you to calmly deliberate over these matters.

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calmly think through these matters. For innaka in the corner,

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and Dakota Tabby and Phil Hyde, for inter Kona Tabby and Phil

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Hyde, how you Roman and takuna Robertson Fisher.

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Now what does that mean? He's saying that the bros are awesome

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is that it is actually better for you to be following, but to be

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just a follower in goodness, and in virtue than to be a leader of

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evil. See, because leadership has a position. There's an honor about

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leadership. But what the Prophet sallallahu Sallam is saying is, is

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that being a leader for evil is worse than just being a normal

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follower in good.

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So that shows the kind of status quo that the Prophet sallallahu

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Sallam wants from us. This hadith is related by Abi Shaybah there's

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another Hadith that Bukhari and Muslim imam Bukhari Muslim relate

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with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, set the Quran

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fitten. There are going to be matters, tribulations, challenges,

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strife. This word Fitna in Arabic is a very difficult word to

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translate into English, because it depends on the context. So in this

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case, it's talking about something that bewilders you something that

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confuses you, something that is not very clear cut to judge that

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you can't make a judgement of is it right or wrong about this?

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That's the meaning of fitna in this particular context. So I

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would say, like a challenge or a tribulation, it's a form of an

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ideological calamity. In a sense, there will be these kinds of

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challenges will come about, they will be these kinds of things.

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It's the nature of the world to happen. But then what the Prophet

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sallallahu sallam said is that the one who sits down who is sitting

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in those times is better than the one who is walking.

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He says the one sitting is better than the one who's walking, and

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the one who's walking is better than the one who's running. What

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is that trying to tell you? It is trying to tell us that if you rush

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into this, you will go wrong. That's why I calmly deliberate

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this walk. If you have to sit down, think about it carefully. So

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don't create bigger problems. For example, the one thing that I have

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seen around the world, when anybody brings up a new idea. For

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example, in England, we've got a group who is against voting.

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They're against voting. Born and bred in the UK, right? They've got

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a passport. They use that to get into countries and travel the

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world and benefit from it. Right? For example, you know, having

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Norwegian passport, but they say It's haram to vote. Now, that's

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fine. That's fine. But they stop everybody else from voting as

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well. When did you have your own opinion don't want to vote.

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There's a lot of non Muslims who don't like to vote. They don't

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like they don't like the you know, they don't like the government.

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They don't like the democratic system, you know, that you can

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have that opinion. You're free if you want. It's a free free place

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to have that opinion. Nobody can force you. Right. But

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my question I've got some people that I know closely, they're nice

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people. They're not violent people at all, but they just have an

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ideology that you can avoid. They're not ones who go out and

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curse people and things like that. These are coming some of the

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decent guys who don't agree to vote and I that's fine. What I

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said to him, my challenge to him was, give me the name of the names

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of three, just three prominent scholars of the world who are well

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respected, reputable scholars that the majority of Muslims will

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accept as scholars who say voting is impermissible and voting is

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unlawful.

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Right? I asked him this question I said just give me three scholars

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because as Muslims were told to, were told us to Allah decree in

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controllata Allah mon

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us the people of knowledge, if you don't know. So give me three

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people of knowledge that are acceptable among people they've

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got they've gained a reputation among people

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And he wasn't able to give me the name of even a single individual.

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Yes, they have scholars who say what they they're saying, but

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these are some individual scholars here and there that nobody knows

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in the world. Just like these organizations that we hear about

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who are doing things in Iraq and other places. If you ask the

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scholars of Iraq, the traditional scholars, the traditional Sunni

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scholars of Iraq,

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what do you say about these groups? They don't agree with

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them. Because it's about who?

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What is the scholarship?

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So for me, that's always worked for me. If you want to do

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something, which God has said it, how many scholars or one scholar

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will say things, there's going to be many scholars? Who will say yes

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or no, they will, they will make everything halal for you, or

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everything haram for you if you want. But give me reputable

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scholars that have gained an understanding because at the end

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of the day, the OMA and what they feel, in general is a kind of a de

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Lille is a kind of an evidence. So I will, I'll tell you why. Because

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there was a, there was a, there was a person who had died. And his

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funeral was taken past while the Prophet sallallahu was sitting

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there. He was sitting there with a number of companions. And there

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was a funeral that went past. And the prophets also asked him about

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this person who had died. And he said, he says he's a really nice

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person. He's a knight, he's in Jannah. So the prophets Allah

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loves him said wager, but wager, but that is obligatory that is

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obligatory meaning that is right, that is right, that is definite,

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that is definite, then another funeral pass by, and they did not

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praise that person. They said a few negative things about that

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person, that he is probably going to go to hellfire, whatever. So

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the Prophet said the loss and then said wager, but whatever, but

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that's also become necessary. That's also definitely sure, sure,

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right.

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And then he said that you are the witnesses, you are the witnesses,

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in this world, over people. So at the end of the day, where I'm

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taking this idea that asked for at least three, four scholars who say

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this, that are reputable, right, when it comes to voting, when it

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comes to picking up arms and doing something, you know, ask the

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relevant scholars, that is what is really important. Otherwise, what

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is your basis? It just one scholar, some obscure scholar, how

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do you even know his reality? Did you did you know him from birth?

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Do you know where he studied? You know, a lot of the fatwas that you

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see out there online these days, they're not even from scholars who

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are traditionally trained for this many years. And people have known

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them, they suddenly appear. Just like, you know, in the media, we

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have certain spokesman for built for me, we have two types of

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extremist in the media nowadays, right? You have the extremists who

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are talking about always killing people. And the media always likes

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to give them time, because they make for good media and good

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interviews, right? Because they're always angry, and you know, so on.

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And then the other extremist they get are the those who are so

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liberal and so progressive, that all they they are they just Muslim

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by name, but they want to allow everything that the majority of

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Muslims would not allow. They're the people who these are the two

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groups of people that the media gives a voice to. And then

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everybody's asking, Where are the majority of the Muslims? Well,

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what happens is when you only give room to these two kinds of

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extremes, whereas the majority of Muslims, as every Muslim knows, is

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not one of those two extremes, by their own confession, because the

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first group, the violent group, they will probably condemned the

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rest of the Muslims. And they'll they will actually, I mean, just

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the Muslims will understand this, they will actually quote the

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Hadith, because when you ask them, you're just a very small group.

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You don't have any scholars with you. So then they'll they'll quote

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the hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam to battle for

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Abba

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al Islam Oba hurry ban was a riba that Islam started off small,

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strange, isolated, alone, and it will eventually come back to that

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as well. Now there is really under estimating the the power of the

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Muslim mean to say that this is what our status right now it's not

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Al Hamdulillah we got many things going for us. So they quote that

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to justify their presence. There is another Hadith that they quote,

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which is rated by Buhari and others, which is that they will

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always be a group of Muslims that will be on the hook on the truth.

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And they will not care about anybody who criticizes them, or

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questions them or goes against them. So this is the kind of

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Hadith they will quote and for them, they feel comfortable about

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that. That this is Oh, wow. You know, were the best of the groups.

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That's that extreme, but even by their own confession, they're not

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the majority. By the Hadith, they're quoting by the nurse

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shows that they're quoting the traditions of the Prophet that

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they're quoting SallAllahu sallam, they themselves are saying that we

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are the minority. Were that chosen minority. Right? That means the

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majority, they say a wrong but that's the majority now that when

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you look on the flip side of it, and you see the extreme liberals,

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the extreme progressives, right, who hate the majority of Muslims,

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for what they stand for, right? They say the same thing. They feel

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like outcast, they they criticize the majority of believers as well.

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So those are the two extremes that media gives a lot of time to the

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rest of us. We don't get time on the meter media. We don't get time

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to speak. That's why this program here in the middle of Oslo, you

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know, is really important. So that hopefully we can set the record

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rates and Allah help us because really, it's it's only getting

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worse. The extremists on either side are winning. That's what the

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problem is. That means do not ever be the root cause of any kind of

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evil and spread fitna. Rather, try to deal with things in a way that

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is beneficial for one and for all. Zaid hypnotherapists another

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companion of the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam Radi Allahu Anhu

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report Report reports that I will do bIllahi min and feta mean and

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fitten mahavihara minha, or my button. It says, Seek refuge in

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Allah from all types of these kinds of tribulations and

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challenges. Seek refuge in Allah from them in God from them, both

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the trials that are hidden and those that are apparent, the

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apparent one we know like the apparent fitness that we know we

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can see it's clear cut haram but we can't help doing it. Because

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the other meaning of fitna is the more general meaning is that which

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takes you away from Allah, but your heart feels like doing it.

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Right. For example for

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that's like for example overindulgence in the in the

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world, it's like

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materialism, essentially greed.

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Would you call it sexual deviant sees and all of these other kinds

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of issues were speaking about that that's also fitna. But then he

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says, Seek refuge from the obscure fitness and the clear fitna, so

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all types of fitna, you need to ask Allah for protection from

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them. And then he says, then then the Sahaba and this is a Hadith

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narrated by Muslim then the Sahaba said Nehru, the biller he may not

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fit and Maha Amina Omar button. So then they made this dua, we ask

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Allah for refuge and protection from the fitna that is clear and

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those that are obscure, and those that are not very clear. So this

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is something that Sahaba used to do. Because the giver of refuges

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Allah subhanaw taala, we have to ask him, because we are believers,

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and Allah subhanaw taala is what makes things happen. And if enough

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of us are not asking for refuge from this, then that is why other

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things take over. That's why other things then dominate. Generally,

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in this kind of situation the following, I'm going to quickly

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list you a number of problems that are created the evils of what

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happens during a fitna, when a person tries to take matter in

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their own hands, and tries to do things that they think are quick

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fix solutions, right? In in their pent up rage and frustration, then

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these are the problems that occur. Number one,

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it removes one from the worship of Allah. Now this is the strangest

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thing. These people think they're doing this for the sake of Allah,

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they think they're trying to make changes, improve the situation.

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What it actually does, they get so involved in that. And then shaytan

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takes over because there's anger, there's anger, there's ignorance,

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it ends up taking them away from worship, they don't have time for

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worship, they don't have time to calmly sit down and do vicar to

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make their Salah properly. Even in many cases, it's all about

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propaganda propaganda, online forums, constantly, you know how

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time consuming online forums or, you know, to be able to manage a

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discussion. It's tough. And those of you who are involved in that,

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you know, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. It's such a

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waste of time. In any case, right? Even generally, it's a waste of

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time, because you just, you're you're talking with millions of

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people outside and how can you respond to everybody, and

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especially if you've got what this desire to always be right and have

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the last word, then you will be waking up in the middle of the

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night to check has somebody responded to what I've said, you

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know, this whole Facebook

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and Twitter and everything else that we speak about. So it takes a

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person away from worship. It definitely takes out any focus in

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worship and devotion in worship. A person actually stops asking

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Allah, they think they have so much trust in what they

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Their plan is in what their solution is in their mind that

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they stopped trusting in Allah subhanaw taala.

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And they start just purely putting all of their energy into their,

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into their plan or plot or whatever it may be. It just

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creates a lot of conspiracy theory, it creates a lot of

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propaganda, turbulences imbalance in their lives. And all of this,

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it just occupies a person away from Duaa. And from a burden for

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the rest of us the problem it creates for the rest of us, you

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know what that is? Like, even if you're not involved in creating

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the product, for example, let's just take what happened in France

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yesterday.

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Now, most of us, all of us, Inshallah, we're not involved in

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that. But what does it create for us? How does it occupy us? You

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think? What do we do all day?

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We start discussing, we start watching TV, we start checking the

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news. We want to read reviews, we want to get commentary, we want to

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find out what happens. And we just get so occupied with these things.

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How many of us actually set and made the offer it? How many of us

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actually set and pray to Allah, that Ya Allah, what has happened,

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protect us. Don't let this be worse than it is, you know, and

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protect us from doing this in the future. How many of us actually

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turn to Allah when these things happen? That's why I used to, you

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know, have a number of friends from certain countries where there

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were always political problems. And essentially what what I told

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him is that your solution to this is to keep watching Al Jazeera all

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day.

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That's all you do. You don't do anything else. Where's your

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dollars? Where's your time your prayer at night? So that is why

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the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, this is a Hadith

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narrated by Imam top Iranian is Mr. Jamal Khabib. He says, a

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birder told Phil Harada. Hey, Jonathan Illya. For a person to

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worship during these kinds of confusing times, is like migrating

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to me.

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That is how powerful it is to do worship at this time. If you want

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more reward for your worship, cut away from all of that stuff, and

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start asking Allah because that's what Allah wants. These kinds of

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things happen to draw people to Allah. But what it does for us is

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that we just want more news, we just want to be updated. We go and

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argue with people and yes, raising awareness is one thing.

00:37:25 --> 00:37:28

But asking Allah and keeping our trust on Allah subhanaw taala is

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the most important a by the tune. Phil harj. Is Hijra Ratan Alia

00:37:34 --> 00:37:35

Illya.

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That is that is a wonderful statement. And the Prophet

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sallallahu Sallam also said in the seidelman Jude nibble Phaeton

00:37:43 --> 00:37:47

hadith of Buddha owed, that the fortunate one is the one who is

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protected from becoming indulgent in these kinds of tribulations,

00:37:52 --> 00:37:55

the one who stay safe. Now, remember here, I just want to

00:37:55 --> 00:37:58

clarify because I know there'll be people who will be saying, Oh, you

00:37:58 --> 00:38:00

want to stay safe, because you're cowardly. You don't want to do

00:38:00 --> 00:38:04

anything. You don't want to stand up to do anything. Cowardice is

00:38:04 --> 00:38:07

not what we're speaking about. You have to do the right you have to

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you have to do something about it. But not what is going to harm the

00:38:13 --> 00:38:17

muslimeen and not what is going to take innocent lives. That's not

00:38:17 --> 00:38:20

what you do. The people on the street that were killed yesterday.

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How do you know that so many of them probably don't even that

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don't like the perspective of the French government, for example. We

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know the French policies are just like out of you know, crazy, you

00:38:34 --> 00:38:37

know, in terms of this, their rigid secularism is a militant

00:38:37 --> 00:38:40

secularism, there's no doubt about that. But does that justify

00:38:40 --> 00:38:43

innocent people being killed or anybody being killed for that

00:38:43 --> 00:38:43

matter?

00:38:45 --> 00:38:51

So how can you justify so worship worship? That's why numerous

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numerous vicar and remembrances have been mentioned by Rasulullah

00:38:56 --> 00:38:58

sallallahu on Fridays, for example, there's a hadith that's

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related from almost selama Radi Allahu anha, Which Imam Buhari

00:39:02 --> 00:39:06

relates. He says that once Rasulullah sallallahu is and woke

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up at night, when suddenly he woke up at night.

00:39:11 --> 00:39:14

Frightened, the prophesy was on woke up frightened in the middle

00:39:14 --> 00:39:18

of the night. And he said, Subhan, Allah Subhan Allah, like Glorified

00:39:18 --> 00:39:23

is Allah glorified? Is Allah mother and Zell Allahu Minahasa in

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Mother Anzahl Allahu Meenal. Phaeton, he said, subhanAllah look

00:39:27 --> 00:39:28

at how many

00:39:30 --> 00:39:36

treasures Allah subhanaw taala has, has as sent down, but look at

00:39:36 --> 00:39:40

how many tribulations and trials and fitness He sent down as well.

00:39:41 --> 00:39:47

And then he said, My UK, my youth, Sawa him, Elijah Roberts, who is

00:39:47 --> 00:39:52

who's going to go and wake up the other women in the rooms so that

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

they can wake up for the hygiene and pray salads and ask Allah for

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help. This is what sudo Allah the Prophet sallallahu I used to be

00:39:59 --> 00:39:59

saying himself

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If we had another great scholar of the past whose name was Hassan Al

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bacillary Rahim Allah He is like one of the greatest scholars that

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we've had in the past, who was a master of all the sciences. And on

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one occasion somebody came to him because we had a tyrant ruler at

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the time and you think it's bad today? In those days when it was

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Muslims ruling Muslims you had hegemony use of who killed about,

00:40:20 --> 00:40:24

like over 100,000 people, including many, many companions

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and Sahaba of the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam, can you

00:40:26 --> 00:40:30

imagine how that must have felt like, right? So it's not new, what

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we're what we're what we're experiencing? So they came to

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Hasan Basri and they asked him about this. So he gave us he gave

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a talk and he said, Yeah, Yohannes oh people, he said, he said in the

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who Allah He must Allah Allah who must Allah Allah al Hijjah la

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Camila aku button. Allah has only placed his hijab no use of this

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tyrant ruler against you as a punishment. This is your

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punishment.

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Right? This is your punishment, fella to array to Roku but Allah

00:41:00 --> 00:41:04

He be safe. Don't try to confront the punishment of Allah with your

00:41:04 --> 00:41:07

swords. If Allah wants to send you a punishment, and you're trying to

00:41:07 --> 00:41:10

confront that with your swords, you're not gonna get anywhere with

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it. And then he said, well, like Allah can it can be Sakina what

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Tadahiro is, what you should be doing at this time is adopt Sakina

00:41:18 --> 00:41:23

calmness and adopt the Douro, humble and treating Allah so

00:41:23 --> 00:41:27

humble humbly and treating Allah subhanaw taala humbly asking Allah

00:41:27 --> 00:41:30

subhanaw taala pleading to Allah. So that's what you should be doing

00:41:30 --> 00:41:35

at this time. That's your response responsibility. Because Allah

00:41:35 --> 00:41:38

subhanaw taala says, Well, I've got 100 Now who will either be

00:41:38 --> 00:41:42

from a sticker for Mr. Kurnool, there'll be him on either our own

00:41:42 --> 00:41:46

that we have sent punishment down to certain people, but they still

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did not humble themselves. They still did not humbly call on to

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me.

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This is the state and this is the state with the majority of us as

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well. We don't talk to Allah. We're just constantly thinking

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about what's the news and the juicy details. That's why Abu

00:42:04 --> 00:42:07

Huraira the Allahu Anhu relates in this Hadith from ignobly Shava. He

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says, The Kunal fitna la une German ha Allah dua Anca Dora Illa

00:42:12 --> 00:42:18

hurry cola Yun Jie minha, da la da Anca Dora elaborate. There will be

00:42:18 --> 00:42:22

tribulations and challenges in front of you. The only thing that

00:42:22 --> 00:42:27

will help you against it is like is the dua like the drowning

00:42:27 --> 00:42:31

person makes dua? What kind of dua Do you think a drowning person

00:42:31 --> 00:42:34

would make? That would be a serious dua? Not just like, oh,

00:42:34 --> 00:42:38

Allah help, help hope. It will be, Oh Allah, I need to help. Right, I

00:42:38 --> 00:42:43

need to be saved. That's the kind of dua that will only work in

00:42:43 --> 00:42:46

times of tribulations. And the reason is that when tribulations

00:42:46 --> 00:42:48

come, they come for a very particular reason, Allah doesn't

00:42:48 --> 00:42:53

send tribulations just like that. He sends it for a reason. And we

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need to then have sufficient humility in front of that, and

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sufficient devotion to turn that around and to calm the anger of

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Allah subhanaw taala. In fact, the same hasn't been studied, there

00:43:06 --> 00:43:09

was a group of people that came up to him and they asked about this

00:43:09 --> 00:43:16

particular group, who wanted to who wanted to go against the

00:43:16 --> 00:43:20

leader. They wanted to start a rebellion. They wanted to start a

00:43:20 --> 00:43:25

rebellion. And they came to against Hijazi, essentially, they

00:43:25 --> 00:43:29

wanted to start a start a rebellion. And they came to ask

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for his advice. This was his response. He says, I don't think

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you should do a rebellion against Him. I don't think you should

00:43:37 --> 00:43:42

rebel against him. Because if he is a punishment from Allah against

00:43:42 --> 00:43:46

you, if he is Allah's punishment, then you are not going to be able

00:43:46 --> 00:43:50

to remove the punishment of Allah by fighting against it.

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So it's useless. And he said, if it's not Allah's punishment, but

00:43:56 --> 00:44:01

just the challenge and a fitna and a test, then for Spirou hedaya

00:44:01 --> 00:44:05

Kumala Hua Hua Hiral Hakeem in, then be patient,

00:44:06 --> 00:44:10

until Allah subhanahu wa taala makes his judgment and Allah is

00:44:10 --> 00:44:14

the best judge. Allah makes the best judgments. They left him,

00:44:15 --> 00:44:17

they walked out after he gave them that advice. And you know what

00:44:17 --> 00:44:20

they said about him? They said,

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No, to her the ledge.

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They said they call him a bad name. And they said that you think

00:44:28 --> 00:44:31

we can follow him? He doesn't know anything. This is the same kind of

00:44:31 --> 00:44:35

discussions you'll see out there. People will be saying that anybody

00:44:35 --> 00:44:41

who speaks like I'm speaking about calmness, deliberation, that he is

00:44:41 --> 00:44:44

a sold out scholar. They don't know what they're talking about.

00:44:44 --> 00:44:49

The government men, they're paid by the government. Allah He that's

00:44:49 --> 00:44:53

not the case. You know, that's not the case. But that's what they

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say. Because for them and you know, sometimes it's a complex in

00:44:56 --> 00:44:59

the mind, this feeling of rage. Get

00:45:00 --> 00:45:02

To you and shaytaan whenever there's anger, there's going to be

00:45:02 --> 00:45:05

shaytaan. Right? That's why you have to be very careful when you

00:45:05 --> 00:45:09

get angry, angry for the sake of Allah. Like, you have to train

00:45:09 --> 00:45:12

yourself. Only a person with a loss can be angry for the sake of

00:45:12 --> 00:45:17

Allah. Otherwise shaytaan will mislead that anger. And then he

00:45:17 --> 00:45:20

shuts your mind. So then you start thinking everybody is against you,

00:45:20 --> 00:45:23

you start hating even your parents, because they don't agree

00:45:23 --> 00:45:23

with you.

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And you hate the scholars, so you have no scholarship. That's why

00:45:29 --> 00:45:33

the other issues that come about with fitna is ascendancy of the

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foolish when you have these kinds of tribulations, foolish people

00:45:37 --> 00:45:40

will become leaders of these groups, and people will start

00:45:40 --> 00:45:43

following them, they will have no respect for the scholars of the

00:45:43 --> 00:45:48

time, they'll have no respect for the for the, for the, for the

00:45:48 --> 00:45:52

reasonable people of the time, this is this is what happens in

00:45:52 --> 00:45:56

this case. Another thing another thing that happens is, is

00:45:57 --> 00:46:02

generally whenever a person undertakes this kind of activity,

00:46:02 --> 00:46:05

it ends up in failure, and in a bad ending. That's why

00:46:05 --> 00:46:08

immunostaining Rahim Allah Hafiz Tamia, Rahim Allah, the great

00:46:08 --> 00:46:12

scholar of Damascus. He came at a time and there were many trials

00:46:12 --> 00:46:16

and tribulations before him. So he surveyed all of those trials and

00:46:16 --> 00:46:20

tribulations and he came up with a conclusion. And what he said is,

00:46:21 --> 00:46:27

Kalam and how Raja Allah imam in the Sultan, he says, very seldom

00:46:27 --> 00:46:33

is it that a group rebelled against a powerful leader that

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they

00:46:35 --> 00:46:41

that he says, very seldom do you get good, out of such kind of

00:46:41 --> 00:46:45

rebellion. It's mostly there's going to be shatter and evil

00:46:45 --> 00:46:48

that's going to be created from this most of the time, and we've

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

actually seen that there's hardly been any success stories, except

00:46:51 --> 00:46:55

maybe Tunisia, but that started off in a kind of a different kind

00:46:55 --> 00:46:57

of fashion anyway, even Egypt, look at look at what happened in

00:46:57 --> 00:47:02

Egypt, right, and Syria, Iraq, and all of these other places, in

00:47:02 --> 00:47:08

terms of what's going on. He says Fela accommo dienen Wallah Walla,

00:47:08 --> 00:47:13

AppCode dunion. He says two things. He says fala accommo

00:47:13 --> 00:47:19

dienen WOMMA AppCode dunya? Neither did they establish Islamic

00:47:19 --> 00:47:23

rule and Islamic faith? And neither did they manage to

00:47:23 --> 00:47:27

preserve even their dunya they lost their dunya their world, and

00:47:27 --> 00:47:31

they also lost the Akira. So there was no benefit in what they did.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:34

That's why you have to be very considerate what you do. And we're

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

not trying to say there's no such concept of jihad in Islam. I want

00:47:37 --> 00:47:40

to be very clear about that. There is jihad in Islam, but there's

00:47:40 --> 00:47:42

very specific ways that's done.

00:47:43 --> 00:47:48

Right. So it's not about trying to take a total passive motion and

00:47:48 --> 00:47:52

DIS and denying certain aspects of Islam. That's not the idea here is

00:47:52 --> 00:47:56

just that where we are there that you know that this is not jihad to

00:47:56 --> 00:47:59

do this, to call God can kill innocent people. It's just not

00:47:59 --> 00:48:02

jihad. Another point that it brings about is that it obviously

00:48:02 --> 00:48:04

creates even more confusion.

00:48:05 --> 00:48:07

That's why Abu Musa Allah Scheider, the Allahu anhu, he had

00:48:07 --> 00:48:11

a very interesting statement, he said that the nature of a

00:48:12 --> 00:48:16

challenge is that when it comes, it confuses the matter. It's

00:48:16 --> 00:48:19

blinding. You don't know what's right and wrong. And when it

00:48:19 --> 00:48:22

removed when it goes away, when it finishes, then it leaves

00:48:22 --> 00:48:25

everything very clear that dust settles, but it's too late by

00:48:25 --> 00:48:29

then. So people who get involved in the beginning when it's all

00:48:29 --> 00:48:33

confusing, then they lose out because then there's only regret

00:48:33 --> 00:48:36

afterwards. If only it could be so clear, but that's the nature of

00:48:36 --> 00:48:39

these things. The Prophet sallallahu sallam said in a hadith

00:48:39 --> 00:48:43

in Sahih, Muslim man Katella data riot in our immediate him, Yahoo

00:48:43 --> 00:48:49

they bully Assabet in a weird era as a baton, Aryan Surah ASA button

00:48:49 --> 00:48:54

for Cotulla for Kittler to Hoja Helia. What that means is, the

00:48:54 --> 00:48:58

Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam said that whoever fights under a

00:48:58 --> 00:49:04

blinding banner, a confusing banner, whoever fights for a

00:49:04 --> 00:49:08

confusing, dubious reason, that is not clear cut jihad for example.

00:49:09 --> 00:49:13

And then after that, and because of what he says yesterday, bully

00:49:13 --> 00:49:17

as they are out of out of either

00:49:18 --> 00:49:22

racism or out of just

00:49:23 --> 00:49:26

what do you call it, affiliation to somebody else, you get angry

00:49:26 --> 00:49:27

because of that reason.

00:49:28 --> 00:49:29

Or

00:49:31 --> 00:49:34

you just help because of that reason. And then if a person is

00:49:34 --> 00:49:40

killed in that, then his dying is a dying of ignorance. So it's not

00:49:40 --> 00:49:46

a worthy dying over. Ignore serine the Ignacia in the great scholar

00:49:46 --> 00:49:50

after the time of the Sahaba he states that Saturday, be raucous

00:49:50 --> 00:49:53

Sorry, do not be worthless was one of the great companions of the

00:49:53 --> 00:49:57

Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. He was asked that why he

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

didn't he joined between Ali and why we are the Allahu Anhu

00:50:00 --> 00:50:00

have

00:50:01 --> 00:50:05

arguments and battles between them, why don't you join in? So

00:50:05 --> 00:50:10

this is the response he gave. He says that I'm not going to fight

00:50:10 --> 00:50:14

until you bring to me. Now, you'd be able to relate to this. He says

00:50:14 --> 00:50:19

until you bring to me a sword until you give me a sword, which

00:50:19 --> 00:50:25

has two eyes and a tongue. It has two eyes and a tongue. And it has

00:50:25 --> 00:50:30

eyebrows. It understands and it's able to work out who's a real

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believer and who's not a real believer. So essentially a smart

00:50:33 --> 00:50:34

sword.

00:50:35 --> 00:50:37

Right? Something with enough chips in there that it's able to figure

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out, Okay, what's a believer and who's wrong? And who's right,

00:50:40 --> 00:50:41

right, a smart sword.

00:50:43 --> 00:50:46

Unfortunately, if only they could make smart bombs, the Western

00:50:46 --> 00:50:50

countries, they get so much out of all of these problems in the

00:50:50 --> 00:50:52

world, because they're the ones who are supplying all the

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

weaponry. countries like the US and UK, I don't know what nobody

00:50:55 --> 00:50:59

does, but us in the UK, they're supplying and for them, the

00:50:59 --> 00:51:03

defense contracts, the weapons that they and then they say oh,

00:51:03 --> 00:51:07

have come and be be you know, the Take it easy, and all of this

00:51:07 --> 00:51:09

thing and they're the ones who are supplying the bombs and the

00:51:09 --> 00:51:11

aircrafts and all of this kind of stuff. It's clear cut, because

00:51:11 --> 00:51:15

it's money money is what rules today. So if only they can make

00:51:15 --> 00:51:19

smart weapons like really smart weapons that really only go after

00:51:19 --> 00:51:24

true criminals. Not the problem is in the Muslim world today is that

00:51:24 --> 00:51:27

the people who are dying are the innocent people. Mostly it's the

00:51:27 --> 00:51:30

innocent all these collateral damages taking bro. So we really

00:51:30 --> 00:51:34

need the side of Nabil Baca says, Yes, bring me that sword, which

00:51:34 --> 00:51:39

has a eyes and it has a tongue and he can tell the difference between

00:51:39 --> 00:51:43

a believer and a disbelieve. And then he said, you know, and then

00:51:43 --> 00:51:47

to come the people next to him, he says, Look, fucka Jaha to I have

00:51:47 --> 00:51:50

done jihadi. Don't think I'm a coward or something. I've done

00:51:50 --> 00:51:52

jihad with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. This is not a

00:51:52 --> 00:51:56

jihad. He says, right now he says, I know what a jihad is. And

00:51:56 --> 00:52:00

basically we're saying that this I don't consider this to be a cause

00:52:00 --> 00:52:01

for me to join in.

00:52:02 --> 00:52:07

And the final two points in this kind of situations, it creates a

00:52:07 --> 00:52:10

lot of division. Look how much division is created among the

00:52:10 --> 00:52:14

Muslim mean, where Muslims are attacking each other. This is what

00:52:14 --> 00:52:18

fitna does for people creates enmities, hatred and so on.

00:52:18 --> 00:52:20

Whereas Allah says in the middle, and

00:52:21 --> 00:52:23

they're very Muslim, meaning they're supposed to be believers,

00:52:24 --> 00:52:28

that they're supposed to be brothers, right, and reform

00:52:28 --> 00:52:31

between your brothers. And finally, the worst of it is that

00:52:31 --> 00:52:35

killing becomes cheap. Murder, life becomes cheap. That's the

00:52:35 --> 00:52:40

only way you can justify your rage justify these things. Killing

00:52:40 --> 00:52:43

becomes cheap, murder becomes cheap. And then eventually as

00:52:44 --> 00:52:46

Abdullah him number of the Alon relates in the hadith of Muslim

00:52:46 --> 00:52:51

Muhammad, Phil fitna, la de Ronell, Cutler che and when it

00:52:51 --> 00:52:55

comes to fitna killing, you will not see it as anything important

00:52:55 --> 00:52:58

as anything significant. And that's why there will be cases

00:52:58 --> 00:53:02

where people will not even know why they died. There are people

00:53:02 --> 00:53:04

around the world that are dying, they don't even know why they're

00:53:04 --> 00:53:09

dying for its collateral damage. It's a misguided bomb. It was the

00:53:09 --> 00:53:13

wrong place. People don't know this is the kind of environment

00:53:13 --> 00:53:17

that's being created. I ask Allah subhanho wa taala, to help us in

00:53:17 --> 00:53:23

this in this situation, and to guide us right, to remove our

00:53:23 --> 00:53:28

confusions and to allow us to be true believers, true role models,

00:53:29 --> 00:53:32

true followers of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam, especially in

00:53:32 --> 00:53:36

our situation of being in the West, where we have to live live

00:53:36 --> 00:53:40

amongst so many different types of people and obey the law of the

00:53:40 --> 00:53:44

land. May Allah make that easy for us. And may Allah make it easy for

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47

us in the sense that it's all conducive to our faith? May Allah

00:53:47 --> 00:53:50

subhanaw taala make that easy for us working with Dawa and Al hamdu

00:53:50 --> 00:53:51

lillahi rabbil aalameen

00:53:54 --> 00:53:56

See these difficult times and

00:53:57 --> 00:54:00

Muslims around the world are frustrated, especially in the

00:54:00 --> 00:54:03

West, you're frustrated you want to do something?

00:54:04 --> 00:54:05

Islam is

00:54:07 --> 00:54:12

it's an quite an amazing religion, in the sense that there's no

00:54:14 --> 00:54:19

you see, I've come from England, I've come here. If I see any of

00:54:19 --> 00:54:23

you on the street, and I say a Salam Alikum to you, you don't

00:54:23 --> 00:54:26

know me, you've never seen me before. I say a Salam Alikum to

00:54:26 --> 00:54:30

you. Suddenly all of these barriers will fall down.

00:54:31 --> 00:54:37

And suddenly you'll start feeling level of comfort. Right? You might

00:54:37 --> 00:54:39

think oh, maybe he's gonna ask me for money. Next thing is I'm gonna

00:54:39 --> 00:54:43

ask for money. You know, you know, somebody begs you on the street or

00:54:43 --> 00:54:43

something.

00:54:45 --> 00:54:52

But mashallah, the way I went, we, three of us we went to West

00:54:52 --> 00:54:54

Africa, beginning of the year,

00:54:55 --> 00:54:56

and

00:54:57 --> 00:55:00

we went to Mauritania and then after that, we

00:55:00 --> 00:55:01

went to Senegal,

00:55:03 --> 00:55:07

with a friend of us. When we got there, we went to the house of a

00:55:07 --> 00:55:08

friend of his.

00:55:09 --> 00:55:14

We've only met him hot for half an hour, 45 minutes, maybe the food

00:55:14 --> 00:55:20

comes in big tray of couscous, and some chicken and everything else.

00:55:21 --> 00:55:26

And then it's us who are British from originally Indian.

00:55:27 --> 00:55:32

There was a Mauritanian Senegalese, then he had other

00:55:32 --> 00:55:36

people there from three different African countries. We all sat

00:55:36 --> 00:55:42

together and ate with our hands from that same plate, same tree.

00:55:43 --> 00:55:47

Where else can you see that in the world, within half an hour, you've

00:55:47 --> 00:55:52

developed this trust, security, that there is no poison in the

00:55:52 --> 00:55:56

food, it's clear, it's clean, Baraka, you know, and you eat

00:55:56 --> 00:56:00

together. That's the level that Islam gives you. So whenever

00:56:00 --> 00:56:03

something happens around the world, Muslims are going to feel

00:56:03 --> 00:56:04

troubled, there's no doubt about that.

00:56:06 --> 00:56:07

And this can be exploited.

00:56:09 --> 00:56:13

This can be exploited. Now. Look, there are some conspiracy theories

00:56:13 --> 00:56:17

that this is actually non Muslims who are making certain Muslims do

00:56:17 --> 00:56:23

this. But that's not the whole story. There are Muslims who, who

00:56:23 --> 00:56:27

believe in very extreme methods of doing something. And we have to

00:56:27 --> 00:56:30

realize that because many Muslims, they still feel everything's a

00:56:30 --> 00:56:31

conspiracy.

00:56:33 --> 00:56:37

Right, maybe 911 is a conspiracy. But not every bombing that happens

00:56:38 --> 00:56:43

is a conspiracy. It's an actual event that some people did. And we

00:56:43 --> 00:56:49

have to realize that and all it is it's misplaced zeal, misplaced

00:56:50 --> 00:56:52

enthusiasm, misplaced anger.

00:56:53 --> 00:56:58

Do you understand? So a person has to really be considered about

00:56:58 --> 00:56:59

these things.

00:57:02 --> 00:57:05

Look how difficult it has become in the last several years. For

00:57:05 --> 00:57:07

Muslimeen anywhere.

00:57:09 --> 00:57:13

We want people to, to see the beauty of Islam.

00:57:15 --> 00:57:17

Not to just see the evil of Islam

00:57:18 --> 00:57:21

or evil of Muslims rather, because Islam is a beautiful religion.

00:57:22 --> 00:57:27

Unfortunately, a religion is only as good as the person practicing

00:57:27 --> 00:57:28

it.

00:57:29 --> 00:57:33

So if you practice it, well, it's good that you're that you don't

00:57:33 --> 00:57:36

have to vocally even say anything to anybody, the women mashallah

00:57:36 --> 00:57:38

they do bigger that with than anybody else, those who wear

00:57:38 --> 00:57:41

hijab, especially, they're doing that hour every day, whether they

00:57:41 --> 00:57:45

want to do it or not, just the fact that they have to go outside

00:57:45 --> 00:57:49

with a hijab on because they feel it's important to God, their

00:57:49 --> 00:57:53

modesty, they are doing that, well. The men get away with it.

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

Because there's some men you know, you don't even know that they're

00:57:57 --> 00:57:59

Muslim or not right, they can get away they can disguise themselves,

00:57:59 --> 00:58:04

but women cannot. There on the front, Mashallah. So that is that

00:58:04 --> 00:58:04

our,

00:58:05 --> 00:58:08

you know, your data is that the fact that people know you're a

00:58:08 --> 00:58:11

Muslim, but you're a good person at work. You fulfill your

00:58:11 --> 00:58:16

responsibilities. You don't come late, you don't leave early. You

00:58:16 --> 00:58:19

don't slack off in your job. You do it properly. You're a good

00:58:19 --> 00:58:25

contributor. That's what it is. So a lot of people think Dawa is only

00:58:25 --> 00:58:27

when you go and say Brother You need to this is Islam. Give him a

00:58:27 --> 00:58:31

book. And you know, to explain, that's that way as well. But a lot

00:58:31 --> 00:58:34

of the data that Muslims do in the West is just the fact that people

00:58:34 --> 00:58:35

know they're Muslims.

00:58:36 --> 00:58:39

And they're good human beings.

00:58:40 --> 00:58:41

They're good human beings.

00:58:43 --> 00:58:46

That's why we need two things. We need taqwa and humanity.

00:58:47 --> 00:58:53

Taqwa between the Muslim decoy is what governs it. Decoy means God

00:58:53 --> 00:58:57

fearing pneus. And for the whole humanity, we need insomnia,

00:58:58 --> 00:59:03

humanity to be a good, reasonable, decent human being. That's why

00:59:03 --> 00:59:07

when somebody wrote to Abdullah Hebner, Amara, the Allahu Anhu is

00:59:07 --> 00:59:08

the son of Amara, the Allahu Anhu.

00:59:09 --> 00:59:13

Now he was his temperament was quite different from his father's

00:59:13 --> 00:59:17

his father was always get up and go, Now, same thing, Amara, the

00:59:17 --> 00:59:21

Allahu anhu, get up and go do this do that. The professor said, no,

00:59:21 --> 00:59:23

no, you can't do this so many times on one or the other said,

00:59:24 --> 00:59:28

let me take care of this with my sword. And the Prophet said, no,

00:59:28 --> 00:59:32

no, you can't do that. So this is a zeal. I mean, people have the

00:59:32 --> 00:59:36

zeal, but it's just you need somebody to guide that zeal and do

00:59:36 --> 00:59:39

it in the right way. Then Amara, the Allahu Anhu you should see

00:59:39 --> 00:59:41

mashallah, once

00:59:43 --> 00:59:50

somebody came to complain about his wife to Amara Radi Allahu Anhu

00:59:50 --> 00:59:53

and he was the belief of the muslimeen. He was the Khalif of

00:59:53 --> 00:59:57

the Muslim for 10 and a half years after Abu Bakr Siddiq with the

00:59:57 --> 01:00:00

Allah one. So this person had a problem

01:00:00 --> 01:00:02

had his wife maybe she was saying some bad things to him or

01:00:02 --> 01:00:07

whatever. So he says, Let me go and complain to the, to the, to

01:00:07 --> 01:00:10

the leader. So he came outside his house.

01:00:11 --> 01:00:13

And he knocked on the door.

01:00:16 --> 01:00:19

And inside he heard this loud shouting.

01:00:21 --> 01:00:24

A woman is shouting Amara, the Hola, Juan.

01:00:26 --> 01:00:30

And he thought to himself, I've come to complain about my wife.

01:00:31 --> 01:00:34

His wife is shouting at him. What is he going to help me and he

01:00:34 --> 01:00:37

started feeling really sad. And he started walking away.

01:00:40 --> 01:00:44

Suddenly, Ramadan comes out. Where are you going?

01:00:45 --> 01:00:49

You wanted to see me were you running off to now? Are you going

01:00:49 --> 01:00:49

now?

01:00:50 --> 01:00:52

So he said, Oh, no, it's okay. He said, No. Why are you going? He

01:00:52 --> 01:00:55

says, Well, look, I came to complain to you. And he's very

01:00:55 --> 01:00:59

sad. He says, I came to complain to you about my wife. And then I

01:00:59 --> 01:01:02

found out when I came to your house, that it's the same

01:01:02 --> 01:01:05

situation here. So what are you going to do for me?

01:01:06 --> 01:01:11

Now think about Amara, the Allahu Anhu. This, you know, such a

01:01:11 --> 01:01:13

mashallah man with so much zeal, you know?

01:01:15 --> 01:01:18

He said, Now, he could have made an excuse, oh, she was shouting at

01:01:18 --> 01:01:21

the kids. She was talking on the phone.

01:01:22 --> 01:01:25

There were no phones in those days. She could have he could have

01:01:25 --> 01:01:29

justified it. Right? Oh, she was just having a bad day. You could

01:01:29 --> 01:01:35

have criticized, she had PMT, you know, premenstrual tension. In

01:01:35 --> 01:01:38

case you call it something different here, right? Or whatever

01:01:38 --> 01:01:41

the case. So he could have made an excuse, because, you know, for a

01:01:41 --> 01:01:44

man to be caught with his wife shouting at him. You know, like,

01:01:44 --> 01:01:46

it sounds bad, you know, especially the Hadith of the

01:01:46 --> 01:01:52

Muslim. He said, he said, Look, what do I do? He said, She washes

01:01:52 --> 01:01:57

my clothes for me. She cooks for me. She does this for me. She does

01:01:57 --> 01:02:00

that for me. And she protects me from haram.

01:02:01 --> 01:02:05

How can I? What else? You know, how can I not tolerate this?

01:02:06 --> 01:02:10

Now look at the softness with Tricia understanding this case? Do

01:02:10 --> 01:02:14

you understand? So that is what Islam teaches you to do the right

01:02:14 --> 01:02:18

thing in the right place, you have to get angry for the right reason.

01:02:18 --> 01:02:20

You have to also be calm for the right reason.

01:02:22 --> 01:02:23

Mashallah, yes,

01:02:25 --> 01:02:29

I would, what I would suggest is, in any of these cases, take them

01:02:29 --> 01:02:34

as soon as possible to go and speak with a scholar, you need to

01:02:34 --> 01:02:38

obviously speak to them first, then I think you need to take them

01:02:38 --> 01:02:42

to a scholar and let them sit down and really discuss this. Right?

01:02:43 --> 01:02:46

That is probably the best way to know in some cases, you're not

01:02:46 --> 01:02:50

going to be able to do anything. We have to try to really help them

01:02:50 --> 01:02:53

work through that. Why is it so don't just start rejecting them

01:02:53 --> 01:02:56

start speaking to them and saying, Well, you know, what do you intend

01:02:56 --> 01:02:59

to get out of that? What is it really, because a lot of people I

01:02:59 --> 01:03:03

said, it's all about this zeal, that you have this anger that you

01:03:03 --> 01:03:07

have, and you want to do something about it. So this seems to be the

01:03:07 --> 01:03:10

easiest idea, especially if something in your life isn't going

01:03:10 --> 01:03:13

right and you're a bit sick of life. You know, maybe you've just

01:03:13 --> 01:03:16

had a divorce or maybe you've just broken up with your parents, or

01:03:16 --> 01:03:20

maybe you've just lost your job or something like that. So find out

01:03:20 --> 01:03:25

what are the factors here. Somebody with sincerity, they they

01:03:25 --> 01:03:30

will listen, and they will really think Well, I think we can just do

01:03:30 --> 01:03:33

that I think we can just do the best that we can is just to talk

01:03:33 --> 01:03:36

through with them in sha Allah. For example, somebody wrote to

01:03:36 --> 01:03:38

Abdullah Hebner, Amara, the Allahu Ana, as I was discovered, this is

01:03:38 --> 01:03:44

relevant to this. And he said to him, he asked him no matter the

01:03:44 --> 01:03:47

time to write some advice to him about some knowledge, give me some

01:03:47 --> 01:03:50

of your knowledge. Now for whatever reason, this is the

01:03:50 --> 01:03:54

response he gave him he said, in the Latin Mecca theory.

01:03:55 --> 01:03:57

There are many many sciences there's much knowledge out there

01:03:57 --> 01:04:01

there's a lot of things to teach. But he said to him, Well, I can

01:04:01 --> 01:04:05

install Tata and tell kala Hafi for vitamin D Ma, il Muslimeen

01:04:06 --> 01:04:11

humming Sol bottlemen unworldly him girl Phyllis Ernie an hour all

01:04:11 --> 01:04:17

the hem Lizzie manly only Gemma it him for fun. He gave me one simple

01:04:17 --> 01:04:21

advice. He said that there's a lot of knowledge out there. But if you

01:04:21 --> 01:04:21

can,

01:04:23 --> 01:04:27

if you're able to eventually meet with Allah subhanaw taala when you

01:04:27 --> 01:04:28

die

01:04:29 --> 01:04:35

without any burden on your back from the people's blood, Muslims

01:04:35 --> 01:04:39

blood on you, you did not contribute to killing of Muslim

01:04:39 --> 01:04:39

mean.

01:04:41 --> 01:04:45

At the end of the day, you know, you might think a person might

01:04:45 --> 01:04:48

think that they are going to go and kill a few non Muslims in

01:04:48 --> 01:04:53

Paris or in London or wherever it is. But what is the response going

01:04:53 --> 01:04:57

to be? The response is just going to be killing a lot more Muslims

01:04:57 --> 01:05:00

somewhere else, because you may kill somebody with a machine

01:05:00 --> 01:05:03

In gun, they've got bombs, and other things of that nature. And

01:05:03 --> 01:05:06

the only just makes them more angry and more resolute.

01:05:09 --> 01:05:13

So he says that if you're able to die when you can meet Allah

01:05:13 --> 01:05:19

subhanaw taala, without any Muslim blood on your back, and your

01:05:19 --> 01:05:23

stomach devoid of their wealth, meaning you haven't cheated

01:05:23 --> 01:05:28

anybody and taken haram wealth from somebody, and your tongue has

01:05:28 --> 01:05:33

abstained from dishonouring them, you haven't spoken ill about

01:05:33 --> 01:05:33

anybody.

01:05:35 --> 01:05:39

And you have been constantly with the general group and not being

01:05:39 --> 01:05:43

isolated. Then do that. That is the knowledge that you should

01:05:43 --> 01:05:43

have.

01:05:47 --> 01:05:51

They will come at you see what the prophets of Allah said about fitna

01:05:51 --> 01:05:52

is at different levels.

01:05:53 --> 01:05:58

There were certain he the Prophet saw some himself told people that

01:05:58 --> 01:06:03

they will come times when you will absolutely not know what is right

01:06:03 --> 01:06:08

from wrong. Say a G O. Fitton, Caqueta, Elaine, Muslim, right,

01:06:08 --> 01:06:12

they will come certain trials and challenges in front of you will,

01:06:12 --> 01:06:16

she'll be like, pieces of the dark night, you will know what's right

01:06:16 --> 01:06:21

and what's wrong. So do you know what he says in that case? He says

01:06:21 --> 01:06:24

in that case, in some cases, I mean, I don't think it's that

01:06:24 --> 01:06:26

confusing right now. And Hamdulillah, we still have a lot

01:06:26 --> 01:06:29

of orlimar we still have a lot of education. There's a lot of

01:06:29 --> 01:06:32

understanding. I don't think it's that bad right now. It is bad, but

01:06:32 --> 01:06:35

it's not that bad. In fact, I think we've had worse in history,

01:06:36 --> 01:06:36

right?

01:06:37 --> 01:06:40

That's why there's a book that we've just published. It's called

01:06:40 --> 01:06:45

saviors of Islamic spirits. Right. And the reason why I think every

01:06:45 --> 01:06:48

Muslim should read this, right? Because

01:06:49 --> 01:06:53

it shakable Hassan Ali nadwi wrote this,

01:06:54 --> 01:07:00

this book, about the highs and lows of this ummah.

01:07:01 --> 01:07:04

This is not the worst time that we're faring right now. When the

01:07:04 --> 01:07:08

tortoise came into Baghdad, which was the double Khilafah, which was

01:07:08 --> 01:07:12

the, the center of the Muslim world, they killed a million

01:07:12 --> 01:07:12

Muslims.

01:07:13 --> 01:07:17

They killed a million Muslims just you know, like just in Baghdad

01:07:17 --> 01:07:19

alone, aside from all of the others, they killed in the other

01:07:19 --> 01:07:23

cities just in Baghdad or in the in the double Khilafah. Right.

01:07:25 --> 01:07:31

Jerusalem was gone. The musci Luxa for 90 years, 90 some years, had

01:07:31 --> 01:07:35

no Salaat in there. No prayer taking place in there. There was a

01:07:36 --> 01:07:42

there was a a the coop but the Sahara was made into a A, the

01:07:42 --> 01:07:45

templum dominate there was a cross placed on top of that, and no

01:07:45 --> 01:07:49

Salah took place in that area. And the Muslims were cleansed out of

01:07:49 --> 01:07:53

there to such a degree so many were killed that knee. The horses

01:07:53 --> 01:07:57

were knee high in blood, according to the historians. Yeah, we've

01:07:57 --> 01:08:00

we've had some serious issues in the past. So what shakable Hassan

01:08:00 --> 01:08:04

Ali nadwi has done is he's gone into history for you know, for the

01:08:04 --> 01:08:08

first volume contains the first six or seven centuries. He's

01:08:08 --> 01:08:11

spoken about all the challenges that some of the major challenges

01:08:11 --> 01:08:14

that took place, and how Allah subhanho wa Taala brought about

01:08:14 --> 01:08:18

respect, brought about a solution through certain individuals,

01:08:18 --> 01:08:22

certain scholars, certain Olia Allah, right, so the Prophet

01:08:22 --> 01:08:26

sallallahu Sallam has discussed these different Hadith about times

01:08:26 --> 01:08:30

of fitna, and then in one case, the province of Assam set a time

01:08:30 --> 01:08:32

will come when you will absolutely not know what sorry, you won't be

01:08:32 --> 01:08:35

able to make any decision. The best person will be the one who

01:08:35 --> 01:08:39

takes his sheep into the top of a mountain. Right? Some way, no way.

01:08:40 --> 01:08:45

Right. And he just just stays away from everybody else. But I said

01:08:45 --> 01:08:48

that I don't think it's that bad right now. Do you understand, but

01:08:48 --> 01:08:51

it will get worse some time. Now, it doesn't mean that it will have

01:08:51 --> 01:08:54

to get worse now and is getting worse, worse, worse. It has to get

01:08:54 --> 01:08:57

worse and clearer is going to occur. And man he's going to come

01:08:57 --> 01:09:00

No, it could go right back up, and then get worse, that time will

01:09:00 --> 01:09:04

eventually come. But do we have to feel that it's going to come right

01:09:04 --> 01:09:04

now? No.

01:09:05 --> 01:09:11

Do you understand before the 1000 years of the Muslim? The Muslim

01:09:11 --> 01:09:17

millennium? Because right now in 14 137 We just started 37 Right

01:09:17 --> 01:09:23

14 137 years after Sula so since migration before Imam suity died

01:09:23 --> 01:09:28

in 911 Meaning 911 Hijiri not 911

01:09:29 --> 01:09:37

Right 911 Hijra right at before he died he wrote a book about how he

01:09:37 --> 01:09:41

believed that this OMA this nation, the Muslim ummah was going

01:09:41 --> 01:09:45

to go past the millennium. And he brought in certain Hadees to prove

01:09:45 --> 01:09:50

it. And the most interesting thing is that the reason he had to write

01:09:50 --> 01:09:53

that book is there were people at his time saying that the world is

01:09:53 --> 01:09:57

going to end by the 1,000th year. They actually believe that some

01:09:57 --> 01:10:00

people and there were certain Hadith they were misquoted

01:10:00 --> 01:10:03

And so he clarified that, and he did some calculations, and he says

01:10:03 --> 01:10:06

that there still has to be at least another 200. And some years

01:10:06 --> 01:10:10

before the day of judgment can occur. So that's why it cannot

01:10:10 --> 01:10:16

occur until it cannot occur by the 1,001st Millennium. Now, if I take

01:10:16 --> 01:10:25

the same calculations, were 1436. Right? We're about 6564 63 years

01:10:25 --> 01:10:28

away from one and a half millenniums, there's no way that

01:10:28 --> 01:10:31

piano can occur be that within the one according to his calculation,

01:10:31 --> 01:10:33

Allah knows best. But I'm just saying according to that, so we've

01:10:33 --> 01:10:37

got a long time left. And we have to always be optimistic and try to

01:10:37 --> 01:10:40

be positive. So that's what the Prophet sallallahu Sallam he

01:10:40 --> 01:10:43

mentioned these things a bother during fitna asking Allah for a

01:10:43 --> 01:10:47

solution for refuge from fitna. That's what the Prophet said

01:10:47 --> 01:10:48

Lawson told us to do.

01:10:52 --> 01:10:57

A legitimate leader is said use the use the same rule that I said

01:10:57 --> 01:10:58

before.

01:10:59 --> 01:11:02

How many Allama are going to recognize that leader?

01:11:03 --> 01:11:06

How can somebody become a legitimate leader and know Allah

01:11:06 --> 01:11:09

ma recognize him? That means the province that loves him is

01:11:09 --> 01:11:14

incorrect in what he said, right? Because this OMA will never gather

01:11:14 --> 01:11:19

together on the wrong. Right? People can a lot of people can

01:11:19 --> 01:11:23

start doing something haram and wrong they can but as an ummah,

01:11:23 --> 01:11:25

which means especially the scholars,

01:11:26 --> 01:11:28

if they're going to be blinded from a leader for 10 years, that's

01:11:28 --> 01:11:29

impossible.

01:11:30 --> 01:11:34

So I would say, go with what the major scholars of the world will

01:11:34 --> 01:11:37

do. And that's why I mentioned that you know, when the MADI

01:11:37 --> 01:11:41

comes, or he would have appeared already, but no, he would have

01:11:41 --> 01:11:43

been born already, but nobody will know Him.

01:11:44 --> 01:11:47

And there'll be so much strife in the world that the scholars from

01:11:48 --> 01:11:51

each country will be coming for Hajj every year because they know

01:11:51 --> 01:11:55

that it's in Hajj that he's going to be found. And they will

01:11:55 --> 01:11:58

actually meet up and say, Why are you here? So we've come to look

01:11:58 --> 01:12:01

for Maddie. Eventually, they will actually gather together to find

01:12:01 --> 01:12:05

him, trace him and force him to take the leadership. That's what

01:12:05 --> 01:12:09

he says in the narrations in the prophecies. So I would say if you

01:12:09 --> 01:12:13

want to see whether something is right or wrong in the world, see

01:12:13 --> 01:12:17

what the opinion of the scholars is in general, not one scholar,

01:12:17 --> 01:12:20

but a few scholars, at least reputable ones?

01:12:23 --> 01:12:27

That's not true. You know, do we have to establish a Halifa before

01:12:27 --> 01:12:31

the Madigan come? Absolutely not, he is going to come to establish

01:12:31 --> 01:12:34

it. Because before him there's going according to the narrations,

01:12:34 --> 01:12:37

even though some of them are the weak narrations. And for anybody

01:12:37 --> 01:12:40

who's interested in this. I've actually done an entire series,

01:12:40 --> 01:12:44

it's an audio series on zamzam. academy.com. What is it the signs

01:12:44 --> 01:12:45

of the last day,

01:12:46 --> 01:12:49

it's a signs of PR more signs of the last day. That's what it's

01:12:49 --> 01:12:49

titled as

01:12:51 --> 01:12:54

if you start listening to it, towards the end, it discusses all

01:12:54 --> 01:12:57

of these things. And what's going to happen is that it says that in

01:12:57 --> 01:13:00

Syria, there's going to be a guy called Sophie Jani, who's going to

01:13:00 --> 01:13:02

be a major tyrant in the masjid is going to do some really bad

01:13:02 --> 01:13:08

things, and they start on the other and everything, and the jail

01:13:08 --> 01:13:11

is going to appear. So there are particular signs of that. And it

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doesn't mention any of those that there's going to be an Islamic

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Khilafah. It doesn't even give you any idea that in fact it talks

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about chaos.

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Right? It talks about chaos.

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And I tell you another thing.

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Most Muslims in the world, they have this utopian idea that they

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they're waiting for the Khilafah to happen. And Pakistan is like an

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example they give a failed example, unfortunately. Right? It

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started off as you know, Pakistan, right, Pakistan, Pakistan, you

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know, and no offense to Pakistanis. But you know what I

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mean? Is this supposed to be this Muslim utopia, splitting away from

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India, and the rest of India rather, and making this place that

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is pure and Islamic rule, but SubhanAllah? You know,

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unfortunately, a failed exercise. In that sense. It's still good in

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some senses. But anyway, that's a different issue.

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The example we need to look at in the West, is of a country in which

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Muslims have lived successfully. Yes, there's going to be issues.

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There's issues in Muslim countries. So why not in non

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Muslim countries? What is the example of a country where Muslims

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have been successful with even having their own laws to a certain

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degree, full ability to practice their faith? And so on so forth,

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but living as a minority, a huge minority, but still a minority

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within a large country? Can you anybody give me an example of

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that, where they've got where they're had scholars? They've got

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academics, they've got huge heritage and tradition of heirloom

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and sciences and heirloom and everything like that. Where do you

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think that is in the world?

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South Africa is a decent but there's not as they still take

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their strength from somewhere else.

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It's India. It's India, because they've had a huge history of

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Muslims. And how many Muslims in India about 150 million? It's not

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a joke, probably more than all the Middle East put together, right of

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Indian Muslims were everybody was together at the time but in the

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beginning, but they have lived under Hindu rule well under

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secular officially a secular rule, but now it's whatever, they have

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issues. You know, in many states you can eat cow, right as though

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that's going to be a deal breaker you know,

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but there are issues everywhere there is Subhanallah you know,

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there are Muslim countries where we couldn't I couldn't be speaking

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to you unless I got a special license to speak to you on a very

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particular topic. There's countries in the world where they

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have huge amounts of good scholars but they're not allowed to say a

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word that's why they call that place the refrigerator the freezer

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of their alma

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Alma they just frozen, waiting. That's why you and I have been

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placed in these places, but whether that be Oslo, Norway or

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Sweden or England is a reason why we're here and let's make the best

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of that inshallah. And we meet Allah subhanaw taala we have done

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our best to fulfill our obligations to Allah

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