Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Rectifying Others Wrongs (Hadith Commentary from Zad alTalibin)

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The importance of physical and mental control is emphasized, along with the need for fear and guidance in avoiding dangerous behavior. The speaker emphasizes the importance of letting people know about their actions and offers advice on how to make them change. The difficulty of letting people off work during a busy time is also discussed, along with the advice system for avoiding risky behavior. The importance of not feeling bad about oneself and not letting people know about one's success is emphasized, along with the need to stop behavior that is too risky.

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			Hadith number 228 The Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in
		
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			this hadith handy Hadith number
228 have provisions for the
		
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			seekers of poly mean. He says
mineral income and current value
		
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			of the year will be ready for
Ilam. Yesterday Furby rissani. For
		
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			Islam, you're stopping for recall,
we were 30 cut out our full Eman.
		
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			He among you who sees a wrongdoing
should rectified with his hands.
		
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			If he is unable to do do this,
then by speech and if he's unable
		
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			to do this either, then with his
heart, and that is the weakest
		
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			degree of faith. So here is
		
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			a ranking of a person's levels of
faith and also
		
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			a tier by tier
		
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			and methodology, we way of dealing
with something that is happening
		
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			wrong for someone or in front of
someone. So essentially, the first
		
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			thing that Brucella while he was
telling me saying that if you see
		
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			anything unlawful that is
happening,
		
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			that stop it with your hand, that
means physically stop it. What it
		
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			means by physically stop it is
that you do whatever is in your
		
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			control to, you know,
		
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			to a certain amount, it doesn't
mean you have to, you have to like
		
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			leave everything you're doing and
just be on that for 10 years, and
		
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			you still can't stop it. It's not
really the point here.
		
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			Because then that would go into
the second or third category
		
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			anyway. So it's not about becoming
obsessed with something, it's
		
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			about dealing with it with wisdom,
that's very important. You don't
		
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			want to become blindly dealing
with something because then you're
		
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			not really efficient. It needs to
be done with wisdom, that's very
		
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			important. So the first thing is
that if in your wisdom and your
		
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			wisdom should not be watered down
here, just because you don't have
		
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			enough bravery and courage. That's
another thing that you have to
		
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			consider as well. So if you can
stop something physically, then
		
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			you must do it physically and
physically could mean that if it's
		
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			in, if it's a function that's
going to take place that's going
		
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			to, that's not going to be very
helpful, for example, then if the
		
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			function is left to you, and you
are part of that function, you are
		
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			one of the organizers of that
function, in fact, they relying on
		
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			you for that function, and you can
easily stop it. When you give it
		
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			up, if you can't stop them, then
you have to come out of it, you
		
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			can't be part of it.
		
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			So you have to use any way or
shape or form to try to stop it
		
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			physically.
		
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			If you can't go and physically
stop something, because it's
		
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			happening somewhere else, you
can't really go and physically do
		
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			something because it's going to
cause a fight, it's going to cause
		
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			a really bad reaction in the sense
that it's going to become really
		
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			ugly. And it's going to be way
more magnified. And the purpose is
		
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			not going to be there, then you
have to avoid that. And then you
		
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			have to do it in a different way.
Mainly, this is actually speaking
		
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			about situations where you can
efficiently physically stop
		
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			someone that you must do it. So if
you read the works of Imam
		
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			Ghazali, if you read what majority
has written and a number of the
		
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			other scholars that have dealt
with a HELOC and a medical
		
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			marijuana here and in Mancha, what
they will normally refer to here
		
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			is that all of this will be
governed by the fact that you can
		
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			efficiently take care of it.
Otherwise, why would the Prophet
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wasallam make
you move from level one to level
		
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			two, and then speak about a level
three as well. If it was that if
		
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			you saw wrong, you must go in
there and die for it to change it,
		
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			then clearly there would be no
level two or three because that
		
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			would be what you would have to
spend your life doing. But what
		
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			the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam is saying that if you can
		
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			stop it physically do so
efficiently if it's going to
		
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			happen efficiently, they're not
going to listen to you physically
		
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			doing they're just going to go
right back to doing it, then you
		
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			don't just do it just to make a
point. If that point is not going
		
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			to be well taken by them, if it's
something that they can reflect on
		
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			afterwards, and they will respect
afterwards, then maybe so yes.
		
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			So the main point here is that if
you can efficiently do something
		
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			and people will listen to you, and
you can change it and you can move
		
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			it, you can switch it off, you can
take it away from them, you can do
		
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			something else, then in that case,
you do it physically with your
		
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			hand. And if you're unable to do
that, because you know that it's
		
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			not going to work. Then you do it
with your tongue. So you tell them
		
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			no.
		
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			You tell them no. In this case,
this is a bit of a lower category
		
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			and it's less intense than the
first one. Right because you're
		
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			not provoking them as much by
taking away something of this.
		
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			Let's just say that they're
watching something haram or they
		
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			are playing with something haram
they're gambling for example, you
		
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			go then you slightly
		
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			cards away, you take all of their
chips away. Right?
		
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			If they're really into it a
gambling person, you don't want to
		
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			mess with that person, the person
is addicted.
		
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			They're going to come after you.
		
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			Right? A person with a bottle,
right of wine or drugs or
		
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			whatever, it just depends how what
level they're into. So if you
		
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			cannot efficiently do it
physically, then you at least
		
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			speak to them with your tongue.
		
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			Now speaking with your tongue has,
there's a great different ways of
		
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			doing that in wisdom.
		
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			I mean, the the first one is where
you could take something and hide
		
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			it away. So that they don't know.
And just for the FICKY purpose,
		
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			it's permissible to do that, in
fact, the Fatah have written that
		
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			if somebody's got a haram object,
and you and and destroyed that
		
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			you're not liable.
		
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			Normally, if you destroy
somebody's somebody's property,
		
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			you are liable. Right? You're
liable. But in this case, if it's
		
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			an object that is purely haram,
not something that could go both
		
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			ways, is purely haram, and a
bottle of wine or something, and
		
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			you went and dropped it down here,
I don't know what you're talking
		
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			about. Right? You're not liable.
Right? Not sure if that's the best
		
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			way to do something, but you're
not liable. Right, that's what the
		
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			fuck I have written.
		
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			When you stop something with your
tongue, I mean, even if they're
		
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			not going to listen to you, but if
it is going to have some impact,
		
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			they will reflect someone, you
should say it with your tongue, at
		
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			least, if you can't even
physically do something about it.
		
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			And if even, you've got to a level
with certain people, were even
		
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			saying it verbally is going to
just put up a greater barrier
		
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			between you two.
		
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			Because in some cases, especially
with brothers, sisters, sometimes
		
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			with parents, sometimes the
children, you keep telling them
		
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			and telling them you become a nag,
then they don't want to listen to
		
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			you. And then after that, they
will avoid you. So they just want
		
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			to be in another room. And that
relationship is important to be
		
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			able to rectify them, eventually
reform them and help them
		
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			afterwards, give them some support
afterwards. So in that kind of a
		
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			case, probably have to resort to
just telling them once in a while.
		
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			And then it has to be wisdom the
way you tell them. It's not about
		
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			making a point. Look, I told you
no, I don't care. I just have to
		
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			say it. It's not about that. It's
about getting the word through to
		
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			them. For example, what you've got
nowadays online as well is people
		
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			who are of a certain manage a
certain method, methodology,
		
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			certain persuasion, a certain
belief, they form ideology, and
		
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			they think that another ideology
is completely wrong and incorrect.
		
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			So for example, I received an
email on one of our websites. We
		
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			received an email the other day
from someone just saying,
		
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			you guys call yourselves Hanafi.
Maliki, Shafi, humbly, whiny NE
		
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			And these number of names, none of
these existed during the time of
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi
wasallam. And you should listen to
		
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			the scholars of Medina, you should
listen to scholars like even Abdul
		
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			Wahab and even the Tamia. And he's
just giving this whole. And I
		
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			wrote back to this person, and
they said, Look, I don't know what
		
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			your intention is. But if your
intention is to reform someone you
		
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			think is doing wrong, then clearly
this way is not going to work.
		
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			Because what you're doing here is
you're saying, This is my
		
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			position, this is your position,
your position is wrong, my
		
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			position is right, you should
follow my position. Why should we
		
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			do that? If somebody is following
something for so long, in this
		
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			particular way? How can you make
them just change and switch over
		
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			in one way, but just by telling
them your ways wrong? If they knew
		
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			their way was wrong, they wouldn't
have been following it in the
		
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			first place. You can't convince
somebody that their way is wrong
		
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			in one day. It takes a very long
time. And it requires tact. So I'm
		
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			trying to give him some Naseeha
that look, if you really think
		
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			that we're wrong, then please talk
in a way that I'd like to speak to
		
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			you about something, you know,
there are certain things on my
		
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			mind and you know, we need to
speak to we need to speak about
		
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			it.
		
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			Because you're saying that none of
these words existed during the
		
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			terrible sort of Allah salAllahu
ideas and fine the word Salafi
		
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			didn't exist in either many words
did not exist, that doesn't mean
		
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			that they are right or wrong or
anything of that nature. You just
		
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			presuming certain things. And
you're taking that for granted and
		
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			you're trying to just essentially
tell somebody changed the one way
		
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			in any wisdom how many people are
going to change, you're just
		
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			creating a fight and disunity.
		
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			Abu Hanifa rockin mahalo when a
person came to study with his name
		
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			was Earthman Alberty. He was from
Missouri. He come to stay with the
		
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			mambo Khalifa and Kufa and the
people in Botswana. They had their
		
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			own Imams, they had their own fic
and they didn't like it. Babu
		
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			Hanifa because it was different to
what they were following. So they
		
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			hadn't really recognized it as
such in Abu Hanifa knew this, so
		
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			when this man was had finished
studying and he was going back to
		
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			Basra, he warned him he said,
Look, I don't want you to go back
		
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			and make haste in taking up one of
the pillars in the masjid in
		
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			Bustelo because that's the way
traditionally used to work.
		
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			If you were given a dose you'd be,
you'd go into the masjid, there'd
		
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			be an empty pillar in other
remaining pillars in the big
		
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			Masjid of the city, that you take
a pillar. And then students will
		
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			start gathering around you. Right
if you've got something useful to
		
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			say they listen to you. So he
went, he sat down, he started
		
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			teaching called Abu Hanifa kala
Abu Hanifa, called Abu Hanifa. And
		
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			the people of the area just
evicted him out of the masjid,
		
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			in Abu Hanifa, told him don't make
haste in doing that they will
		
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			throw you out.
		
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			Then one of the greatest students
who are Hanifa, Imam Zophar, who
		
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			most people have probably heard
of, who's the third Greek imam of
		
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			the Hanafis. He was also from
Bosler, also from one of the
		
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			families of bussola. When he went
back, he died in very, very young
		
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			age, he died about eight or nine
years after the mobile Hanifa
		
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			passed away. So when he left, he
went, he did not start his own
		
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			dollars.
		
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			Now look at this, he didn't start
his own business. I mean, he was
		
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			probably more qualified than many
people there, many people in that
		
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			city, right? Even many of the
amount of destiny was probably
		
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			more qualified than him, he did
not start his own business.
		
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			And you have to realize that if
there's a prevailing opinion,
		
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			understanding culture, in a
certain area, you can't just go
		
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			there and change it in a day and
say, You're different.
		
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			Right, that you'll create a lot of
enemies. Yeah, a few people will
		
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			believe, you know, there'll be
somebody to follow you. But you're
		
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			going to create a lot of animosity
and division. So what he did was
		
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			he just attended the other
gatherings. He attended the other
		
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			gatherings and learn to listen to
them. And whenever the opportunity
		
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			presented itself, he would mention
the alternative opinion without
		
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			mentioning who the opinion was
wrong.
		
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			So he'd say, Oh, yes, in this
issue. There's also another
		
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			opinion, this is the evidence for
it. He was also backing up his
		
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			opinion. And slowly, slowly, they
started wondering, well, these are
		
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			really nice opinions is very
plausible. And they're
		
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			very valid, very sound opinions.
You know, where you're getting
		
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			these opinions from. And
eventually, he told him that these
		
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			are Abu Hanifa opinions. I said,
these are great opinions. That's
		
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			how Hannah, that's how the Hanafi
school was able to
		
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			actually then spread in Basra.
		
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			Otherwise, the hasty way that the
earliest shouldn't have tried, it
		
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			didn't work out.
		
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			And it's very important. I
remember when I first went into a
		
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			community, and I was speaking
these people had never had an imam
		
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			before in the masjid. So people
were both these in their own
		
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			rights. Each one of them was the
sheikh in their own right, in a
		
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			sense, he gave their own fatwas,
because that's what you do when
		
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			you don't have any imam in a
community. Everybody's moved to
		
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			have their own, I don't blame
them. It's just the way it is.
		
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			Right? I blame them because they
don't get any money. But on the
		
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			other hand, there's no Imams who
look after him. That's just the
		
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			way it is. So
		
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			I remember I mentioned that
something was wrong.
		
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			And I think it was too early for
me to mention it, because you have
		
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			to create email in the hearts of
people, for them to be able to
		
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			understand that something is right
or wrong.
		
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			If you don't have the email in the
heart to accept something,
		
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			then it's going to be very
difficult because you're telling
		
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			them to take a plunge.
		
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			So I remember I got a quite a bit
of opposition when I first
		
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			spoke about that particular point.
Three years later, one of the same
		
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			guys that had opposed me in the
beginning, was speaking about it
		
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			very strongly. And I just thought
back and I said Subhanallah, it
		
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			took three years.
		
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			It took three years for the basis
to be made. And for the person to
		
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			understand the real
		
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			right and wrong help and bottle,
you know, deviancy Halal haram, it
		
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			takes a while for people, you
can't just take people off in one
		
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			day. That's very important to
understand. That's why this hadith
		
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			is it's telling us that if it was
a categorical commander, you must
		
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			physically go and stop something
		
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			and continue to do so until you
can then the other stages would
		
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			not exist. However, the fact is
that if we're so
		
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			if a person's Iman is strong,
right? The stronger it is, the
		
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			more possible the man is strong.
Allah has provided the person with
		
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			an intellect and insight, that
person is going to be able to do a
		
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			lot more eventually it's going to
take time with the promise of a
		
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			long race and there were people
who never believed and they
		
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			probably would not have believed
even if he carried on for many
		
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			years, just like we know how to
use Salam. And yet there were many
		
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			others that video but it took a
while. Khalid bin Walid it took
		
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			him a while. Why we even know be
Soufiane it took him a while Abu
		
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			Sofia and took a while he came
back he
		
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			did come to Islam, but it took him
a while. I'm going to build a
		
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			house with the Allah one. He said
Islam had entered the truth of it.
		
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			And a wavering of his previous
beliefs had come into his heart
		
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			when he was sent as the ambassador
to Negus in Abyssinia to bring
		
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			back the mohajir team that had
first gone to our senior, he was
		
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			the one who was sent by the people
of Makkah to Abyssinia to bring
		
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			them back because he was a good
spokesperson, very diplomatic. He
		
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			was very shrewd, very
intellectual, and he had contacts
		
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			with the leaders. So he went
there. And when he saw what
		
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			happened in front of him Jaffa the
alone speech, he said, My heart
		
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			had melted them, but it took him a
number of years afterwards until
		
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			he became Muslim.
		
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			And then hide it didn't really
became Muslim ARIA then became
		
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			Muslim just before just around the
Congress time, because he saw
		
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			these other people, and it takes a
while to even with the Prophet
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
		
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			But anyway, here, it's saying that
if you're, if you could fish, I
		
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			mean, another way to look at this
hadith would be that if you can
		
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			physically take an you in, but you
don't think you're able to write
		
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			but it is physically doable, but
you're not able to. And then you
		
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			do with your tongue, but you can't
even do your tongue and you're
		
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			forced to just think bad about it.
Because you just don't have
		
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			enough. Many people have this
problem today is they think we're
		
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			not pure enough. So how can we
tell somebody else?
		
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			I've just heard this so many
times. We're not here. So why, how
		
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			can we tell someone else? And then
there's a Quranic verse The Meta
		
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			kulula Murata find one, why do you
say that which you do not do
		
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			yourself? That is obviously a ploy
of che fine at the end of the day,
		
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			I mean, we may not be good in
everything else. But in this
		
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			particular thing, if you're
strong, and please do something,
		
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			otherwise, there will be no
emerald on the Hill monka. And if
		
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			the scholars start saying the same
thing, then what? In fact, we
		
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			would like Hassan bustling, even
Oka theories related this quite
		
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			extensively, that this verse does
not apply to scholars, because
		
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			nobody's perfect. And anybody who
really is with Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala, they're going to be
considering many things deviant
		
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			about themselves, not deviant, but
defective about themselves, and
		
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			sinful about themselves.
		
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			You know, because if there's
somebody who just scraped his hand
		
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			on somebody's wall, and he could
see for 40 days, right, because he
		
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			felt that he'd done something
wrong to someone, can you imagine
		
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			it? So everybody's gonna feel like
that. But if scholars also stop
		
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			telling people because they think
they're not perfect, because
		
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			nobody's perfect. Anyway, the this
whole institution of our Marva
		
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			Neyland got this advice system we
have is going to die out.
		
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			So that's, that's something that
we should not make as a complete
		
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			excuse. Because that is the
weakest degree of faith, to just
		
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			think Bad's, silently in your
heart. It says that then the
		
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			person's Iman is like a mustard
seed. I mean, Subhan Allah, may
		
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			Allah protect us from that state?
We're still than that is if there
		
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			is a haram and a person has become
so habituated to that haram, that
		
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			they don't even think bad of it
anymore. They don't even have
		
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			remorse anymore. They justify it
with the Imam gone then. That's
		
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			the question we must ask us to
ourselves. Forget about stopping
		
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			it with your hands, or with your
tongue. We're not even thinking
		
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			about of it. So what is left of
email after that? That is scary.
		
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			So if we're doing something haram
and we don't feel remorse over it,
		
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			we're happy over it. Then we got a
problem. One of the scholars
		
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			pointed out it's like the soap
operas we watch the movies we
		
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			watch and there is a couple on
there doing you know even if
		
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			they're just kissing that It's
haram.
		
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			Right It's haram or there's the
you know, most most places most
		
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			most of these things have romance
in the there's has to be a love
		
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			story as part of human a violent
crime scene, right? There has to
		
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			be a love story in there. And if
in your head, you think you hear
		
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			hope he gets he's going to be
successful, you're going to cheer
		
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			for him in your heart. Then think
about this hadith.
		
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			One is you enjoy it. And then you
cheer for it. You don't even think
		
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			it's wrong.
		
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			That is worse than you enjoy it. I
mean Subhanallah you enjoy it? But
		
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			you think it's wrong? There's a
level of difference between the
		
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			two.
		
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			In here you're begrudgingly
watching him because you're
		
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			overcome with your habit of
watching such enjoyment of such
		
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			and the other one is that you're
totally taken over May Allah
		
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			protect us from that stage but
this is really where a lot of us
		
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			are. When
		
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			the TV and these the these things
are so prevalent.
		
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			That we don't even think better.
We actually cheer them on. Yes, go
		
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			go do it. Go get it. type of
thing. Oh, go get him
		
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			You know, it's the other way
around a lot of the time as well.
		
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			May Allah protect us. We don't
really know what the sight of our
		
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			iman is, then isn't it difficult
to pre Salam done on time? It
		
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			doesn't, then it doesn't matter if
you and same thing is if we miss
		
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			our Salah we don't feel bad about
it.
		
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			For example, let's just say that
UNC blades, you couldn't get a
		
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			provision. Right? You couldn't get
a forfeiture. Right? And so you
		
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			slip through, and when you get
everything great, I had a very
		
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			long asleep and you don't feel
remorse over federal
		
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			Subhanallah I just wonder what our
state of our faith is.
		
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			May Allah strengthen our faith?
		
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			They're in a ma mentioned about
this also, is that
		
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			when you say by speech obviously
refers to giving advice
		
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			admonishment to mentioning the
warnings and dangers of something
		
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			mentioning a hadith, for example,
the evils of something, and it
		
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			becomes farther than obligatory to
rectify someone or something. If
		
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			the thing that's taking place is
completely haram, then it's
		
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			actually forced to stop it,
		
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			too. Stop it with your with your
hand, if not with your hand and
		
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			with your tongue. And if not, then
at least think about of it. So
		
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			it's fun to go through this
process of trying if the
		
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			wrongdoing is of
		
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			not that degree, but some of my
crew it's a mcru act an
		
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			undesirable act not completely
haram, but an undesirable act
		
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			that's taking place. Then in that
case, it's mazahub.
		
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			To stop it, it's highly
recommended to stop it but it's
		
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			not fun to stop it.