Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Q&A Collective Dhikr Inside a Masjid Allowed

			What does the Sharia say about
collective liquor and hence when
		

			the shots take place and she's
single makes the audience do
		

			thicker together, which is part of
the machine. What's the hokum
		

			regarding that? I'm surprised this
is even a question.
		

			Like, where is this question even
coming from? questions come from
		

			certain preconceived notions,
ideas, certain biases. So,
		

			why should collective vicar be a
problem when the promise of
		

			awesome never forbade it? Is there
a hadith that's telling you that's
		

			making you question this idea?
Questions? Remember, they always
		

			come from certain biases, reason
why you question something, it
		

			looks like somebody's telling you
this is haram, but you're seeing
		

			it happen in your local masjid,
maybe your, your local, wherever.
		

			So now you're getting confused.
This is my reading of your mind. I
		

			could be completely wrong, though.
But this is what I smell in here.
		

			i This is what I perceive.
		

			There's nothing wrong with
collective vicar. There's nothing
		

			wrong with it. There's no hermit
in that there's no haram in that.
		

			However, there are a few laws and
regulations, you should generally
		

			they say avoid it in a masjid
		

			during times and other people are
there because it will be
		

			disturbing others because doing a
collective vicar, especially if
		

			it's loud, then it's going to be
more trouble. It could be
		

			troublesome to others who want to
focus on their prayer their
		

			reading. So I sometimes have an
issue when it's done aloud in a
		

			public masjid. And other people go
in a side room and do it. Because
		

			this is not part of the general
daily five prayers that people do.
		

			Right? Yes, if it's a handcar
masjid, where it's known that this
		

			is what takes place here, then
that is the rule of that place.
		

			That's understandable. But if it's
a general masjid, and you start
		

			imposing a Hunka in there for
everybody, that B can become
		

			really confusing for a lot of
people and problematic, right? So
		

			do it in a side room. So these are
the things there's nothing wrong
		

			per se, it's just the way
sometimes people do it. And maybe
		

			obligated and something like that.
So in an A sheet, for example, if
		

			he makes you do thicker, I think
that's better than him just
		

			reading stuff. Sometimes at least
he gets you to do something and
		

			gets part otherwise, a lot of
people don't even understand the
		

			sheets, right? For example, the
new sheet that you guys just did
		

			upstairs. How many of you even
understood what what what the poor
		

			munchie had said? The singer said,
right? How do you know? If it
		

			sounded nice? You say wonderful
machine. You don't even know the
		

			lyrics? You don't even know the
words. I know this because that's
		

			how I used to listen to machines
before. The nicer ones that kind
		

			of heavy sounding ones. They were
the nicer ones. I didn't know what
		

			they meant in Arabic. Right? I
didn't know what they meant.
		

			So what's the point of no, she's
just a nice background sound.
		

			Instead of music, is that just
your weaning of music idea? So
		

			there's a lot of problem there's a
lot of problem involved in all of
		

			this stuff. Is it just
entertainment?
		

			So if he if this machine guy doing
a good Nasheed is getting people
		

			to do some dhikr of Allah say,
Okay, everybody, c'est la ilaha
		

			illallah or what is Imola sol,
sol, Li wa salam, or, you know, a
		

			particular refrain? Right, which
is the repetitive words, I don't
		

			see a problem with that. As long
as you don't make it like a
		

			concert and you start bringing the
music in and everything like that.
		

			I've seen that happen in some
massages. And that's completely
		

			wrong. As long as it doesn't go,
if it's a fixed program for these
		

			things, where people will
understand that at this time, it's
		

			not a solid time. It's out of
solid time, generally is not a
		

			time when people come in to do the
car. I don't see an issue with it
		

			in general like that. And if you
mean something more particular to
		

			that that I've missed, please let
me know because, you know, I'm
		

			responding to you based on what I
read and perceive from what you've
		

			written.