Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Q&A Collective Dhikr Inside a Masjid Allowed

What does the Sharia say about collective liquor and hence when

the shots take place and she's single makes the audience do

thicker together, which is part of the machine. What's the hokum

regarding that? I'm surprised this is even a question.

Like, where is this question even coming from? questions come from

certain preconceived notions, ideas, certain biases. So,

why should collective vicar be a problem when the promise of

awesome never forbade it? Is there a hadith that's telling you that's

making you question this idea? Questions? Remember, they always

come from certain biases, reason why you question something, it

looks like somebody's telling you this is haram, but you're seeing

it happen in your local masjid, maybe your, your local, wherever.

So now you're getting confused. This is my reading of your mind. I

could be completely wrong, though. But this is what I smell in here.

i This is what I perceive.

There's nothing wrong with collective vicar. There's nothing

wrong with it. There's no hermit in that there's no haram in that.

However, there are a few laws and regulations, you should generally

they say avoid it in a masjid

during times and other people are there because it will be

disturbing others because doing a collective vicar, especially if

it's loud, then it's going to be more trouble. It could be

troublesome to others who want to focus on their prayer their

reading. So I sometimes have an issue when it's done aloud in a

public masjid. And other people go in a side room and do it. Because

this is not part of the general daily five prayers that people do.

Right? Yes, if it's a handcar masjid, where it's known that this

is what takes place here, then that is the rule of that place.

That's understandable. But if it's a general masjid, and you start

imposing a Hunka in there for everybody, that B can become

really confusing for a lot of people and problematic, right? So

do it in a side room. So these are the things there's nothing wrong

per se, it's just the way sometimes people do it. And maybe

obligated and something like that. So in an A sheet, for example, if

he makes you do thicker, I think that's better than him just

reading stuff. Sometimes at least he gets you to do something and

gets part otherwise, a lot of people don't even understand the

sheets, right? For example, the new sheet that you guys just did

upstairs. How many of you even understood what what what the poor

munchie had said? The singer said, right? How do you know? If it

sounded nice? You say wonderful machine. You don't even know the

lyrics? You don't even know the words. I know this because that's

how I used to listen to machines before. The nicer ones that kind

of heavy sounding ones. They were the nicer ones. I didn't know what

they meant in Arabic. Right? I didn't know what they meant.

So what's the point of no, she's just a nice background sound.

Instead of music, is that just your weaning of music idea? So

there's a lot of problem there's a lot of problem involved in all of

this stuff. Is it just entertainment?

So if he if this machine guy doing a good Nasheed is getting people

to do some dhikr of Allah say, Okay, everybody, c'est la ilaha

illallah or what is Imola sol, sol, Li wa salam, or, you know, a

particular refrain? Right, which is the repetitive words, I don't

see a problem with that. As long as you don't make it like a

concert and you start bringing the music in and everything like that.

I've seen that happen in some massages. And that's completely

wrong. As long as it doesn't go, if it's a fixed program for these

things, where people will understand that at this time, it's

not a solid time. It's out of solid time, generally is not a

time when people come in to do the car. I don't see an issue with it

in general like that. And if you mean something more particular to

that that I've missed, please let me know because, you know, I'm

responding to you based on what I read and perceive from what you've

written.