Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Not Allowing the Wife to Visit her Parents and Family

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speaker discusses the cultural practices of marriage in India, where women are not allowed to bring food back and should make commitments to their new families. They also emphasize the importance of collaboration between two families and not allowing women to go out and stay with their new families. The culture should be centered around "back to forest gate" and "back to forest gate", and should allow women to go at intervals and allow them to go at intervals.
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There's women who get married, they go and they move over to the

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husband's area, the husband's house, sometimes, in many cases,

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they're living with their in laws. Some cases, they're not living

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with the in laws, but they're living very close to the in laws.

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So essentially, sometimes they go from one area to another to live

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with the husband's family, she's making a massive sacrifice. Now,

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I'm still trying to figure this out. Now, this is a very village

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mentality, I'm still trying to figure this out. And I haven't

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been able to understand it. Right, I probably need to do a bit more

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research on this. But in India, and probably in other places, and

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I don't know where else. But this is particularly something I've

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seen in the Gujrati community is that once they say that you bring

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a girl into your family, then she becomes kind of like yours, they

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don't let her go to her parent or parents house, which is really

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ridiculous. In fact, that they really frown upon it, they really

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frown upon it. Now I can understand that if you're married

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in love, if you've got if you know if a family here has brought a

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daughter in law from badly Dewsbury, Birmingham, Leicester,

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whatever, you know, somewhere far, it's difficult for them to keep

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going back, I can understand that. But obviously, once in a while

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they can go there, they've got parents, she wants to see him, you

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know, she wants to see her parents wants the assistance, etc. Right?

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After marriage, everybody needs to make some kind of sacrifice, it's

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very difficult to do the same things that you were doing before

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married marriage, you know, with your flat friends going out, you

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know, hanging out with them, whether that be physically hanging

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out with them on Facebook or WhatsApp or whatever, you have to

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start investing in your new relationships very important.

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However, this is cultural, to stop them from going to their parents

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house too often, you know, it goes so far, that I had one person

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saying that when his daughter in law, goes to her father's house,

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meaning her parents house and comes back and bring some food

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from there, they don't even eat it. Meaning these inlaws don't eat

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it, her in laws don't eat it, the house that she's now living in,

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they don't eat it. Basically, the reason why she brings some food

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back is because she has to come and cook anyway. So she cooks down

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there, uses the you know, their, their supplies, whatever, and

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they're fine with it. You know, they're very generous people,

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they're fine with it. But the parents here will refuse to eat

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from that food, which is ridiculous. I can understand if

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there's an issue, but you're making an issue because of some

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kind of culture. It's ridiculous. They don't allow them to go back

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home. And in some, you know, like, let's just take another example,

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let's take a look, you know, locally, let's just say that

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you're married within London. So you're, you know, you've a family

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has brought a daughter in law from maybe 20 minutes away, right? 30

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minutes away around London somewhere, for example, within the

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same city. Now, it's easy to go now, one thing where there's an

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abuse of the system, and the other side is where the daughter will

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keep going back to her family. Right? Like everyday, she's there.

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And she's kind of neglecting her new family. She's trying to still

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keep her old life alive, right? In the same way that it was before.

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She's kind of comes back and sleeps here, right? Or maybe just

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kind of just about each at that extreme, extreme. And that's

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wrong. Right? She if she's dedicated to this new family, she

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shouldn't make that her family. But this new family should also

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not stop her from going there. Sometimes what these new families

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do is they'll allow it to go you know that there's an agreement

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that okay, you can go one day a week, if it's if it's local,

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right, if it's close by 20 minutes, half an hour away, if

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it's close by, okay, you can go you know, like from here to

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Walthamstow, for example, from here to forest gate, from here to

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you know, maybe South London or whatever, you can go once a week,

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once every two weeks or whatever, but this culture, it dominates

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even religious people, it's ridiculous, it's a culture at the

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end of the day, there's no harm, okay? If your in laws are really

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you know, if the, if the girl's parents are really bad people,

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they're gonna provoke her against you, I can understand that. But

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you know what, by preventing her from going by making obstacles by

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making excuses, and not letting her go, and kind of making it look

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bad, frowning upon her giving her tasks on the day that she should

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be going there. And the rest of it, you know, however you want to

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do it, that kind of psychological torment is going to drive her far

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away, her parents are going to figure this out, and they're going

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to start feeling bad about this, that is not the way to create love

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and affection between two families, believe me, in many

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cases where they are allowed to go at healthy, you know, they are

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allowed to go at intervals and, you know, not you know, not like

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every day, they're, you know, the creates a healthy situation.

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That's the collaboration of two families. This is like, we bought

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her she's our property now. Right? And we're begrudgingly letting you

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use it. We're begrudging letting, that's ridiculous. It's not

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Islamic at all to do that, it should be completely fine to to

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allow that kind of movement, and a person should feel good about it.

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This is culture remember, this is culture to stop them from going.

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Right it is and I've tried to ask older people that why isn't said

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yes. You know, the only thing they could tell me right is yeah, that

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is kind of frowned upon.

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But I can tell you why it was frowned upon. Right? I haven't

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found an expert on this situation. But this is ingrained, even in

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people who've been in this country for 50 years, 40 years, 30 years,

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you know, it's ingrained, and it needs to stop. Because, you know,

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we Alhamdulillah in this country, in India, okay, you can understand

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that there was poverty, right? Maybe there was poverty, and if

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you brought, you know, a daughter or somebody else's daughter to

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your house, for marriage, etc, you know, you want to show that you

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can look after her. So she's not, you know, she doesn't have to keep

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going back to a family to get things etc, etc. Right. But here

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are hamdulillah everybody seems to be fine, this kind of thought

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process needs to be diminished, it needs to be obliterated, because

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there is no such thing like this. So may Allah subhanahu wa taala,

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give us the Tofik to avoid all of these extremes, and these purely

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cultural things that have no benefit or basis. You know, one is

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a culture that one is a cultural aspect that has benefit, and that

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is fine. If there's a cultural aspect that has benefit and is not

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anti Islamic in any way, shape, or form, then keep it it's good. It's

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that is what makes us diversified. And that's what enriches our

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cultures. But when a part of culture and some frame of mind and

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some, you know, some some kind of thought process is against it is

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not Islamic, the and there's no benefit as well. Or it's there's

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no benefit in a new context and a new situation, then then you need

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to abandon it because it just creates resentment is no benefit.

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Girls are not like that anymore to think in that way. So we need to

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really think about that. May Allah subhanaw taala give us the ability

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to understand this so that we don't become a volley mean, we

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don't become oppressors without realizing it. Right? Because

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there's even religious people who who are doing this working with

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Dawa and will hamdulillahi rabbil Alameen

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