Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Mauritania 4 The Ulama of Mauritania
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi wa Salatu was Salam
O Allah. So you didn't know Celine while earlier. He was so happy he
edged Marine. And
it's been a few weeks since we've returned from Mauritania. And
after a series of videos that we did, we thought we'd have one
final video on how the scholars are down there, our reflection on
the scholars what we learned from them, and what we found
distinctive about them, because each area has different
characteristics. So what I'm going to do first is I'm going to start
off with the first caller that we met, which was nearly as soon as
we got to Norwalk shots in the in the early morning. This is a
scholar, his name is Sheikh Mohammed Abdullah will say it, and
he's a very old scholar there. He's based in the workshop. He's
about 92 years old, and he's been quite ill and sick for the last
several months or something like that. So it's actually very
difficult to meet in May Allah subhanho wa Taala grant him Shiva
and recovery and strength.
So our host, brother matar friend, he had been trying to go to visit
him before we came as well, but he wasn't able to. But there was we
had hamdulillah a lot of fortune. So when we were arriving and he
asked him if he asked if we could go and visit, and mashallah he was
permitted to go so we managed to get to visit, visit him. As I
mentioned, he's 92 years old, but he's so down to earth. He is
mashallah so casual in the way he speaks, discussing many different
topics. He is known to be a shaker of tarbiyah of the tea, Johnny
Tariq, and he's also a great Ireland. He's a master in Arabic
language, and he is known for his boldness. He's, you know, he's
willing to go out there and speak. He has written a number of
rebuttals against anybody who thinks that goes against the
Sunnah. So for example, there was one of the scholars there who
wrote who who said something like the turban they're a mama, which
we consider to be a sunnah. He said that, oh, the IMA is just a
casual kind of attire that they used to wear there, which was very
cultural, and even a regional used to Wear the turban. So he wrote a
entire treaties, in rebuttal of that to establish the position of
the turban to be something significant within the Sharia, and
within the Sunnah of Rasulullah, sallAllahu, alayhi wasallam, as
opposed to just something customary that they used to do at
the time. So he is of that kind of his of that kind of an approach.
He had to lean slightly. I mean, he's 92 years old, and he's got a
problem with his back and he's been sick and so on. So he had to
lean slightly, but then he apologized that he wasn't sitting
up straight. So he apologized to us, despite the fact that he's
probably double my age. And we discussed a number of different
topics from us, probably one of the most enlightening discussions
that we had, because we had a good time and he was really jolly. And
he was really down to earth and he was really fresh that day.
Most of the most of the scholars there most of the alumni in
Mauritania itself are from the Berber Arab origin. And they
generally tend to be much more lighter skin than most of the
ruling class in Mauritania is much more lighter skin, and they don't
necessarily look African they look, you can say, more Asian in a
sense, Egyptian to a certain degree. As you go further down,
then the people get darker. So what you most of the scholars in
Mauritania, they're from these Moorish tribes, because they've
got this culture of studying. They've got this environment
studying this, it's been in their nomadic culture within that to
study to memorize these texts and so on. So that's why you've got a
lot of scholars within within the within these tribes. So the few
discussions that we had with him was he spoke about how Allah
subhanho wa Taala speaks in the Quran, about people in general.
And how he said that Allah subhanho wa Taala says that most
people are not intelligent Thoreau Himalaya they don't. But I think
what he was trying to say from that is that this is the way we
need to interact with people, you're going to see many kinds of
strange things from people but we need to be able to, to educate,
help people assist people interact with people at their level. He
says it's very important for us to love people who are destined for
Paradise eventually. Basically, what he's saying there is we have
to have a lot of compassion for even sinful people in general to
help them out because at the end of the day, if somebody is a
believer, they're eventually going to go into into paradise, they're
eventually going to enter into paradise. And we need to love
people because of the fact that they are not of the Aluna. They
have the Al Jana so one day they will go to Jana and that's what
will really help us to interact with such people have compassion
for them have some empathy for them, and to be able to assist
them help such people. He says that just like Allah subhanaw
taala says in the Quran DeLuca Rusu for Donna bye
The Hamada about that within even the prophets, there's those which
are higher profits to others. And some have been given a certain
distinction over others. He says, likewise, you get that within the
Sufis as well that you get certain Sufis, certain people of the souls
and people of this gear who are higher up than others. Another
thing is finally, when we were about to leave him, we asked him
to make dua for us. And while he was about to start making dua, I
said that please make dua for my family for my children as well.
And again, from that he took another nasiha, he said that this
is really important that you remember your children, because
that is the point of personal hajima. In Islam, we have this
concept of personal Khartoum and Suharto, which is the good seeding
state, the fortunate seeding state when a person dies on Iman in a
good way, which is a sign of things to come. And then there's
the evil seeding state, which is basically the state a person dies
in a bad state, which again, is a bad indication of is an indication
of what's to come in a more negative sense. So he's saying
that personal Hartman, one of the meanings of that is that a person
is given pious children righteous children, that is very important.
So he was very happy that I actually mentioned that he picked
up on that point. And he used that to, to give some nnessee. Here, he
says that the love between us, the only reason you've come to visit
us is because of the fact that I'm a believer, and you're a believer
that you have Iman, and we have Iman, and he says that's the only
reason we don't have any other motive. This is the reason we've
come because based on Iman, And subhanAllah This is the beauty of
the Muslim ummah, I don't think there's any other religious
background with such a huge diverse membership and community,
speaking all the languages of the world, that when you go somewhere,
and you just say a Salam Alikum to someone, the heart just suddenly
melts, you feel a sense of security, you feel a sense of
security, I know you can't trust everybody out there. But
generally, whenever you say a Salam, there's just this
interaction that takes place, and this is the world over, I could go
to Egypt, I could go to Sudan, I could go to West Africa, I could
go to India, I could go to China, I could go anywhere in the world.
And as soon as you say a Salam Alikum, as a Muslim, as a
believer, suddenly, the dynamics just suddenly change. And this is
because of the Iman that we have. And this is the value of the Iman
and the faith that we carry with us. So he really he pointed that
out. There was one other thing that he mentioned, which was kind
of interesting, he asked the question about whether there's a
tradition in our culture. I'm, I'm not sure if he meant in England,
or if he meant in the Indo Pak subcontinent. But whether there
was a culture of having more than one wife. That was kind of very
interesting, interesting question that he had. And they said that we
don't generally have that the older generations did the previous
generation, and definitely the generation before that, but in
this generation, there's not much of it, some people do it, but
there's not much of it that's happening now. And what we found
very interesting is that, within this these Moorish people in
Mauritania, which is the Berber Arab, of people of Berber Arab
descent, they don't, the women do not allow it, they he says that
the women have too much loofa they've got too much self dignity
in that regard, that they will not allow this to happen. However, it
happens quite, you know, quite a lot in the more African tribes,
like the wall of the Fulani, etc, but within within them within the,
the kind of Moorish people, it doesn't it doesn't happen as much
when he learned that we, we practice the Naqshbandi way
because he's DiGiovanni he mashallah he he knew somewhat
about the next Monday's and he says that it's Atari cotton and
eat cotton. It's an excellent path. It's an excellent path. So
before before we left, he also gifted us some books. And this is
another tradition with an animal that they'll give. They'll gift a
gift of books to others when they visit. So one of the books that he
gave us this quality, economical 18 Beta, holy moly, the number we
chose will be raw material amino Salahi omega T L. Mocha Rabin. So
this is basically about establishing the mold. I mean,
there's a number of there's a number of discussions on the mold.
So he had this he asked what our understanding of the mold it was.
And he said that generally the ALMA, the duben, the scholars of
the subcontinent, they don't have a problem with the mold in
general. Because if when once you reveal, oh well comes about,
you'll see that throughout the day, when the sphere you'll see
that they'll have programs sere program, it's just that they don't
call it the molded, they call them, the sera programs. They will
speak about Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, and they won't focus on
the day specifically, but they will focus on that time around.
And I think this obviously comes from some of the polemics that
they've had some of the issues that that arose in the Indian
subcontinent. So he says, Yes, I can understand that that you know,
Sudan little bob, just to kind of close the door to bigger facade,
there are certain restrictions that have been placed on it, and
so on and so forth. Another book that he wrote is called an E chord
with the heavy Iranian soil at the MAL Bashir in the view. And this
is the book that I referenced that this is actually this entire book
of about 70 Something pages is about trying to establish the
importance of the Sunnah in the life of a Muslim and how it's bad
for people to have bad other and this was written because of that
other Mauritanian scholar who said that the turban is no more than a
cultural symbol that Abuja used to have as well. So finally, finally,
we left him the next place
that we went to and the next caller that we went to was in
Berea, which was on the way to shake Morabito at Hyde, which was
chick BA, is normally known as Sheikh Baba His name is Sheikh
Mohammed file, if not Abdullah, he is known to have studied a few
texts under some scholars. And then after that, he is known to
have taught himself the rest of fifth and jurisprudence, and he's
now about 79 years old. He's got huge respect for other Allah ma,
and he's one of the distinctions about him is that he's probably
the most traveled of the Mauritanian scholars in terms that
he's traveled to a number of different countries. He writes a
lot of fatwa and he's willing to, you know, provide some he heard
beyond, beyond the written fatwa, beyond the written text of the of
the Maliki school, he's willing to, you know, do each Jihad and
give a fatwa on many modern Messiah. So he's done a few things
he's even written when he was requested about mechanical
slaughter of chicken in the West. So he's even written about
subjects like that. One of the books that he gifted us was a book
on boycotting Danish goods, which was an issue that took place some
some years ago with the comic, so he actually wrote a book on so you
can see that he's got a very international outlook and he's not
just sitting in his village. Though he is sitting in his
village he has he has travelled a bit. And he's a very good friend
of Sheikh Mohammed Al Hassan, who is the prolific writer and
commentator of number of source texts, which who we visit later,
Sheikh Mohammed Hassan and him are very good friends and Sheikh
Mohammed has been used to come once a year to visit Sheikh Bara
and discuss Messiah, et cetera. That was one of the few places
only that Sheikh Mohammed Al Hassan used to go to so you can
see the connection between the two. I've already mentioned in the
previous videos that he lives in a Bahia which is about three hours
or so. From from Nova Scotia, the capital itself with about 500
homes.
Again, very hospitable. The family is very hospitable, his son stayed
with us throughout while we were waiting to see him, made sure we
ate first they probably sacrifice something Allahu annum, but they
saved us a really sumptuous dish of some sort the best you know
that. Mauritanians generally provide and and then after that we
got to visit the sheikh. We spoke about a number of different
topics. And this meeting unfortunately wasn't as
as detailed as as we would have liked it to have been but it was
late at night that we discussed we had to carry on to our trip to
shake Morabito HUD, so we had to we had to leave him but we
discussed a number of things about how it is in England and so on and
so forth and how mashallah there's modalities in England and how
there's studies going on today. The very curious about what the
Muslims are doing for themselves. One of the main things that these
are always asked about is how are the Muslim men doing? How is the
status of the Muslim ummah. So this is the outlook this is, you
know, the focus of the Scholars, this is the concern of the
scholars. One of the books that he gave me was, I don't think he had
too many copies left, but this girl named Anita Sol, Shama Illa,
Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, one of the things about
the Mauritanian scholars is that they love to write their poetry.
So they, what they do is they reduce a lot of the Maliki texts
and other texts into poems. So what he's done here is, this is a
commentary on a poem based on the Shamal of Rasulullah sallallahu,
most likely Shemitah telemovie. So he's, it's about the Prophet
salallahu Alaihe Salam starts with his characteristics and go goes on
to other topics. The next place that we went to was where we
finally got to a sheikh, what are we to hide, you've already
followed our journey on how we got there and the difficulty of that,
but shake Morabito Hodge, there's a lot about him already. And he's
a very strange juxtaposition in the spiritual world and I'll
explain that in a bit. His name is Muhammad is his real name is
actually Mohamed agnostic Mohammed bin Sadek, will fool so his family
tried to qualify for and that's why the mount Dora is called the
Medora foo. And there's the
differing views about how old he is. His family said he's about
over 90 The members that were sitting there. But there is
another element, I think within the family that believes that he's
way over 100 years old. But one thing that is agreed upon
throughout the country, meaning to other scholars that we met as
well, when they found out that we were going to visit him or we had
visited him was that he is definitely the oldest of the
scholars in Mauritania, he is definitely the oldest. And he's
probably the most Zahid of the scholars, the most aesthetic of
the scholars, the one who just cut away from the world. That's the
astounding thing about him. Now, one, one thing about him is that
he lives about, he lives in the mountains, 66 kilometers or so off
the beaten track, meaning of the main road, which is in all about
five to five to 600 kilometres in all to get to him and back. So
it's probably about 1515 1600 kilometers to get there and back
so you can see how far he is. What happened is that he started
teaching students, and he wanted no publicity, so he's not into
publicity whatsoever. He started teaching students and not forget
publicity. He doesn't even want contact with society in general,
who wants to be just restricted. And the strangest thing about him
is that he's become renowned the world over more than any other
scholar in Mauritania, despite the fact that he's the one who's tried
to hide more than anybody else. And I think one of the reasons for
this is obviously Sheikh Hamza Yusuf Sheikh Hamza Yusuf found, I
believe, some of his students who then led a sheikh Hamza to him and
he went and spent some time in that mcdata And then of course, he
became a sheikh Morabito, which became known the world over, but I
believe that this is a very important manifestation of one of
the hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam were the
prophets of Allah some said Manta Walder, Allah He Rafa Allah, that
anybody who humbles himself for the sake of Allah, Allah subhanho
wa Taala will elevate them will raise them. So as much as this
person is trying to hide from society, there are people who will
brave these difficult roads and terrains, and mountains and sand
dunes and so on and so forth, to get to him.
Many people have been inspired to visit him, you know, because of
many things that have been written online about him, Sheikh Hamza is
exposition on him, and so on, they go and seek him out. And, of
course, this the Baroque in visiting the Saudi Hainan his
Sharla, from the Saudi Hien. So we also decided to take the journey.
Now, the funny thing is that we'd only known about him before. And
some of the other names we had in mind when I talked to my friend.
And when we got there, we discovered that there are other
scholars who may be more scholarly than him in the sense of academics
and so on. But as I said, He's renowned for the fact that he is
the Moza hit. And one of the most righteous in that regard, and also
the oldest of the scholars.
There's newer scholars that have gone from the west to either study
with him or try to study with him. It's not easy at all. I'll be
discussing that a bit later, or they've gone to study with his
students or other people that are related. shiksa ALEC is also one
of his students who's who's who's in America. So there's a number of
well known foreigners have gone for example, there's Sheikh Hamza
Chaudhary, a friend of mine who's in Chicago. Now, he studied there
for some months. Of course, she comes the use of there's Sheikh
Rama, who studied there for a few years. In fact, he stayed there
and he studied what's known about Sheikh Moravec of Hajj is that he
went for Hajj walking across western Africa. I've got across
the whole of Africa from the west of Africa, right across to the
east of Africa, and then over into into Arabia, and he did his hajj
when he came back, he decided to move away from the community, it
seems so then he found this place. And believe me, it's very
difficult to get the to to displace.
We met a number of his family there as well. Shikata here who
stayed with us for a while checked out here again, has similar it
appears that he has a similar kind of disposition as his as his
father. He didn't want to be videoed right at all. He didn't
want to come in a video as well. His grandson, you know, we had a
good discussion with him. We've already already provided some
footage on him. His name is Sheikh Abdullah bin Salman, who's a
grandson. His father is the scholar we met later on as we left
to a mirage where Sheikh Morabito Hodges, so we were able to have a
good conversation with Chick Taha and Sheikh Sheikh Abdullah and
then after that, when we actually went to visit Sheikh Mohammed Al
Hajj, unfortunately, he was not awake, he only becomes conscious
maybe once a day or something. And he he, he talks to some of his
family or something like that. So as I said, he's very old, very,
very old. So we were able to obviously touch his hand and as
we're sitting there with some of his other families, he's in a
tent, so he's not even in the building. It's he's in a tent, and
he's on the ground, just on a rug or something like that. You can
see that it's just very basic, the
They lifestyle is just like that. And in the middle of that he
started saying Lai Lai, la, la, la la la la la la and then he can't
you know, and then and then he was he was he was silent again. There
we met another scholar who was sitting there. He's about 80 years
old his name is Sheikh had Amin is also a teacher of many of these
foreign students. He remember she comes to Chaudry. And very fondly
in fact, and mashallah, he's a very jolly very again, he's 80
years old, but he seems so jolly, I wish I could have stayed a bit
longer, and had a bigger discussion with him. But then
after that, we had to leave. So we couldn't stay, we couldn't stay
longer, we had a
longer journey ahead, we went to meet on the way back to New York
shot just off the road slightly a place called Angel Hashima, which
I've already discussed. There, we this was quite late at night, it
was quite late at night, there no light whatsoever. And the shift we
met there, I felt the most sukoon and I think the sheikh there is
known to be of extreme piety, of extreme piety, you know, like
really, really righteous, really pious, and I think you could feel
it in the air down there because there was just so much
tranquility, so much peace in that area, no light, just a bit of
moonlight. And I wish I could have sat there and you know, just did
some do some meditation or something. But we didn't have the
time. And we had to leave. But definitely, if somebody goes they
should go and sit there they should visit. And they should they
should benefit from the tranquility down there. He was
sitting among a number of books, not even not even a light bulb was
there at the time Allahu Allah myth. There was no electricity at
the time or they don't have electricity at all. They there was
just a torch lamp or something like that, or they were using
phones, phones for that. Then back in no Oxshott we went to visit
another scholar who is much younger than the others. Most of
the scholars that we met so far, they were all over 70 But they all
seem to be decently healthy. They all seem to be decently healthy.
When we got back to New Oxford, we then went to visit a friend of
a friend of our host brother, matara. We went to visit a friend
of him who's a shake the and he has his own masjid. And he has his
own Zoja there and he's a shake of the Dijon Italica. And I think the
benefit that we had with him was that he we had a lot more time
down there. And he's, again, he's very down to earth, very casual,
no formalities, no pretenses. His name is shaped by a sheikh by Al
Haber. He's half Mauritian, he's half
he's he's half Moorish, and he's half Wolof. And he's also linked
through his mother to the big Dijon shave of West Africa was
named Sheikh Ibrahim the US. And Mashallah. He was extremely
hospitable. He was extremely hospital, he's in the washroom
itself. He is known to look after numerous people, they say that
about 30 or so people eat with him every day. And he feeds a lot of
people and he looks after a lot of people. But he was he's in Oxford.
So he's, he's dressed much more elegantly in the sense that he's
not in the desert. And, but he's really down to earth. He hosted us
we had there's a vicar measureless after mockery. And even then, he
was so hospitals but he didn't let us go. He made sure that we had a
light supper with him as well. The benefit I got is that we've got a
much better understanding of the tea, Johnny Tariq, especially that
of the West Africa, the stories of the Solahart, the pious
individuals, and some of the some of the great ways of how the tea
journey Tariq actually spread through West Africa used to be
covered in shoddily before. And then you had Sheikh Ibrahim nias,
who, then mashallah managed to spread the tijjani political to
such a degree that even the Hassani people of, of Mauritania,
took took from him. And there in his in his lineage.
He speaks a bit of English as well. And he's he's traveled to
South Africa, etc. He had there were a few Pakistani brothers that
came to visit, there was a South African brother that we got to
speak there as well. So he is kind of more international, in that
sense. And because He's based in the workshop, he has more access,
or he has more access to this.
I would definitely say that if somebody goes to visit No,
actually, they should try to go and visit him after maghrib. They
have the vicar measure this anyway. And one of the things that
we pray Joomla there, so what they do what we do in the Indian
subcontinent as well, which is that they have a Bian a lecture in
Wolof in the in the local African language. And then after that,
they have the Athan and then they have the two hotbeds in Arabic
because within the Maliki school, the hotbar has to be in Arabic,
it's a condition, right? It's even more strict than it's in the
Hanafi school, or perceived to be in the Hanafi school. So you have
to have the hotbar in Arabic, and that's why they have the band
first they have the oven and then they have the Hotbox and then they
have the Sadat
then we went and spent a good amount of time, like nearly nearly
a full day one night and much of the day with Sheikh Mohammed Al
Hassan in the Zarya call called TC, which we've got a kind of a
full documentary on, but about the sheikh, you've seen some
interaction with him. And we've got some footage on that. But the
main thing about chef, Chef Mohammed Al Hassan, is that he is
again, around just around 80 or so years old, but he seems to be so
healthy, he was sick on the day when he had some kind of flu or
something like that. But still, he's lying down Sunday, he'll just
get up. And without glasses, he pulls out one of the books
handwritten, and he starts reading it. And you've seen the footage of
the way he teaches, he teaches, you know, different students from
different parts of the book, the subtle Helene, when we started, we
had a discussion with him.
One thing that you notice about these scholars is that they may
not have these massive libraries that you will find in the west or
Muslim countries or other Muslim countries, the they have a
selection. And now with, you know, more and more people going there
to have more, but they really know what they what they do have what
the source books that they have, they really know them well. So
they memorize them properly. And you know, he can basically teach
any of these books, anytime to any any student. So he's been doing
this for a number of years. I've already explained a lot about him.
One thing he did ask is that our people, you know, what's the month
that they follow? So he's very particular about that about the
subject. So he said his Hanafi and then he mentioned that, yes, the
Hanafi. You know, Imam, Abu Hanifa, you mentioned some
praiseworthy words about him that the fact is Hanafi and so on. Then
he again, he asked about
whether books have been translated into English, whether any of his
books have been have reached the UK, and we mentioned Yes, you
know, you've got Sheikh Hamza use of his, he's discussed, he's done
a whole commentary on or used his methodical, methodical globe.
There's Sheikh Rami, who is doing work on some of the other other of
his books, Sheikh Mohammed Al Hassan, he is known to have
written a number of commentaries on Sheikh Mohammed mo ludes poems,
and he's well known for that. So he's a scholar who's using his
time, very usefully, but the one thing that stunned me about all of
them is the amount of you know that just how healthy how healthy
they are, because they live in the desert, they survive on the basic
foods, and so on, so forth. Finally, the one other scholar
that I want to speak about who we didn't get to meet, and his Medora
we met a South African student there who studies there with his
family with his wife and children. And he said, that's probably the
most family conducive place or mandala there is because it's the
most advanced one. We didn't manage to visit because he was off
our track and we didn't have enough days. But it's it's a place
called Mark, which they say Mark Damo Ilana, which is Mark atoll
Molana what Our Lord gave us so that's what that whole area is
called that village is called the person is Alhaji al Mishri, Alhaji
and Mishri. And again, he's another kind of more a person who
travels who was more of an international kind of individual.
So this place is close to Russa, which is I believe, towards the
Senegalese border. And it's probably the best place for
foreigners, as we were told by this South African brother who's
been there expects to be there for a few years at least, he says that
there they actually have a mantra for women as well. Right?
Unfortunately, I don't have much other information, but I'm sure
you'll be able to find much more of this information online if
anybody's interested about that. And he says that even the social
aspects are good, because the way he's organized the city is a
visionary, the Sheikh Mohammed Sheikh Al Hajj and missionary he
is is a visionary, and he's even organize the village that it's not
kind of haphazard, 110 to one house here, one building here, but
it's kind of organized into streets and so on. So he's very
forward kind of looking very modern in his thinking in that in
that regard, they have running water, they have electricity for a
number of hours a day, about six hours a day, which is quite unique
once you go out of no auctions, so or into the body, basically into
these murderers. So that unfortunately, we didn't get to
see him maybe some other time. Now, just a round up on the
scholars. What I discovered throughout a few points that I
observed number one is I found that there were no pretenses that
were quite straightforward. And there was no messing around. It
was quite straightforward. You What You See Is What You Get.
Number two, they carry on their work. They welcome you with great
hospitality, but they carry on their work. They're very focused
on their routine, they but they're very hospitable as well. They'll
generally have, you know, because they've got extended family,
they'll have somebody that will stay with you, even if they can't
attend to you all the time. But they come and they speak to you.
They they're not they're not arrogant or anything of that
nature. They're very down to earth, very humble individuals. If
you if you give them a gift, they accept it very gracious
gracefully. They accept it very gracefully. They're not you know,
they don't have any pretenses or anything of that nature. They
don't show any they don't appear to show any greed for anything.
They seem to have a lot of deep contentment. They don't seem
To be very well off, but they seem to do. They have a lot of
contentment with what they have. And this is what we observed. They
have a lot of karma. I've been told that none of them are
wealthy, none of them are somebody that would have to pay zakat. In
fact, they are eligible for zakat, because they look after so many
different people, a lot of money passes through their hands, and
they give it to others. Most of the scholars that we met except
Sheikh BIOL, Haber, they were all old, 70s 80s and above, but we
found that they are very healthy probably because of the simple
lifestyle. Avoid all the junk that we generally get used to eating
here with all the preservatives and all the chemicals and
everything of that nature. This is quite simple, straightforward
food. They're not into all these complex cuisines, or complex
ingredients. And some of this is a very simple lifestyle, the way
they have down there. And I think just walking on the sand in that
kind of unbalanced sand without proper roads, I think that keeps
you fit anyway. The way it is with with the external kind of weather
they teach outside they teach inside sometimes. Another thing
is, in terms of the poverty, one story that was told about Sheikh
Ibrahim nias, he used to never have money because he was always
helping others out. But there was one year where he kept a portion
of money that nisab amount to decide. And he said that I'm
keeping this aside, so that at the end of the year I will be, I will
have to pay the card so that at least once in my life, I can
fulfill the obligation of paying zakat that I can be obliged or
obligated to pay the Zakat and just make that EBA also come to
life, which is one of the pillars of Islam. So that was our Roundup,
I'm sure there's a lot a lot more that I could say. But in the
limited time that we have this was the things which impacted me most
just the fact that they're so humble. They've kept the tradition
alive. They're very true to their word. They're very strong in their
knowledge. They are very strong in their knowledge and they've kept
that tradition going, which I believe is the success of Islam
that it can it can last anywhere whether that means in a desert or
whether that be a city may Allah subhanho wa Taala reward all of
them. May Allah subhanho wa Taala keep them healthy. May Allah
subhana wa Tada. Give that give them more prosperity, and grant
all of them genital for those