Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Mauritania 4 The Ulama of Mauritania

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss various topics, including the importance of educating people about the culture of the Orleans area, personal compassion for people who die in bad ways, and the importance of learning about personal Hartman, the seeding state of a person, and the shaping of a woman named Hope. They also discuss notable individuals who have gone for example, like hesitant to be recorded and hesitant to attend events. The speakers also touch on a South African man named Mark Damo Ilana, who was found to live in a village close to the border of the Senegalese.

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			Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al
hamdu Lillahi wa Salatu was Salam
		
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			O Allah. So you didn't know Celine
while earlier. He was so happy he
		
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			edged Marine. And
		
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			it's been a few weeks since we've
returned from Mauritania. And
		
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			after a series of videos that we
did, we thought we'd have one
		
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			final video on how the scholars
are down there, our reflection on
		
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			the scholars what we learned from
them, and what we found
		
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			distinctive about them, because
each area has different
		
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			characteristics. So what I'm going
to do first is I'm going to start
		
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			off with the first caller that we
met, which was nearly as soon as
		
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			we got to Norwalk shots in the in
the early morning. This is a
		
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			scholar, his name is Sheikh
Mohammed Abdullah will say it, and
		
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			he's a very old scholar there.
He's based in the workshop. He's
		
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			about 92 years old, and he's been
quite ill and sick for the last
		
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			several months or something like
that. So it's actually very
		
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			difficult to meet in May Allah
subhanho wa Taala grant him Shiva
		
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			and recovery and strength.
		
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			So our host, brother matar friend,
he had been trying to go to visit
		
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			him before we came as well, but he
wasn't able to. But there was we
		
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			had hamdulillah a lot of fortune.
So when we were arriving and he
		
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			asked him if he asked if we could
go and visit, and mashallah he was
		
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			permitted to go so we managed to
get to visit, visit him. As I
		
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			mentioned, he's 92 years old, but
he's so down to earth. He is
		
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			mashallah so casual in the way he
speaks, discussing many different
		
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			topics. He is known to be a shaker
of tarbiyah of the tea, Johnny
		
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			Tariq, and he's also a great
Ireland. He's a master in Arabic
		
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			language, and he is known for his
boldness. He's, you know, he's
		
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			willing to go out there and speak.
He has written a number of
		
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			rebuttals against anybody who
thinks that goes against the
		
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			Sunnah. So for example, there was
one of the scholars there who
		
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			wrote who who said something like
the turban they're a mama, which
		
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			we consider to be a sunnah. He
said that, oh, the IMA is just a
		
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			casual kind of attire that they
used to wear there, which was very
		
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			cultural, and even a regional used
to Wear the turban. So he wrote a
		
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			entire treaties, in rebuttal of
that to establish the position of
		
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			the turban to be something
significant within the Sharia, and
		
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			within the Sunnah of Rasulullah,
sallAllahu, alayhi wasallam, as
		
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			opposed to just something
customary that they used to do at
		
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			the time. So he is of that kind of
his of that kind of an approach.
		
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			He had to lean slightly. I mean,
he's 92 years old, and he's got a
		
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			problem with his back and he's
been sick and so on. So he had to
		
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			lean slightly, but then he
apologized that he wasn't sitting
		
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			up straight. So he apologized to
us, despite the fact that he's
		
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			probably double my age. And we
discussed a number of different
		
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			topics from us, probably one of
the most enlightening discussions
		
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			that we had, because we had a good
time and he was really jolly. And
		
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			he was really down to earth and he
was really fresh that day.
		
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			Most of the most of the scholars
there most of the alumni in
		
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			Mauritania itself are from the
Berber Arab origin. And they
		
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			generally tend to be much more
lighter skin than most of the
		
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			ruling class in Mauritania is much
more lighter skin, and they don't
		
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			necessarily look African they
look, you can say, more Asian in a
		
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			sense, Egyptian to a certain
degree. As you go further down,
		
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			then the people get darker. So
what you most of the scholars in
		
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			Mauritania, they're from these
Moorish tribes, because they've
		
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			got this culture of studying.
They've got this environment
		
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			studying this, it's been in their
nomadic culture within that to
		
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			study to memorize these texts and
so on. So that's why you've got a
		
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			lot of scholars within within the
within these tribes. So the few
		
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			discussions that we had with him
was he spoke about how Allah
		
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			subhanho wa Taala speaks in the
Quran, about people in general.
		
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			And how he said that Allah
subhanho wa Taala says that most
		
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			people are not intelligent Thoreau
Himalaya they don't. But I think
		
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			what he was trying to say from
that is that this is the way we
		
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			need to interact with people,
you're going to see many kinds of
		
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			strange things from people but we
need to be able to, to educate,
		
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			help people assist people interact
with people at their level. He
		
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			says it's very important for us to
love people who are destined for
		
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			Paradise eventually. Basically,
what he's saying there is we have
		
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			to have a lot of compassion for
even sinful people in general to
		
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			help them out because at the end
of the day, if somebody is a
		
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			believer, they're eventually going
to go into into paradise, they're
		
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			eventually going to enter into
paradise. And we need to love
		
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			people because of the fact that
they are not of the Aluna. They
		
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			have the Al Jana so one day they
will go to Jana and that's what
		
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			will really help us to interact
with such people have compassion
		
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			for them have some empathy for
them, and to be able to assist
		
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			them help such people. He says
that just like Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala says in the Quran DeLuca
Rusu for Donna bye
		
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			The Hamada about that within even
the prophets, there's those which
		
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			are higher profits to others. And
some have been given a certain
		
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			distinction over others. He says,
likewise, you get that within the
		
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			Sufis as well that you get certain
Sufis, certain people of the souls
		
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			and people of this gear who are
higher up than others. Another
		
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			thing is finally, when we were
about to leave him, we asked him
		
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			to make dua for us. And while he
was about to start making dua, I
		
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			said that please make dua for my
family for my children as well.
		
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			And again, from that he took
another nasiha, he said that this
		
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			is really important that you
remember your children, because
		
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			that is the point of personal
hajima. In Islam, we have this
		
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			concept of personal Khartoum and
Suharto, which is the good seeding
		
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			state, the fortunate seeding state
when a person dies on Iman in a
		
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			good way, which is a sign of
things to come. And then there's
		
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			the evil seeding state, which is
basically the state a person dies
		
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			in a bad state, which again, is a
bad indication of is an indication
		
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			of what's to come in a more
negative sense. So he's saying
		
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			that personal Hartman, one of the
meanings of that is that a person
		
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			is given pious children righteous
children, that is very important.
		
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			So he was very happy that I
actually mentioned that he picked
		
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			up on that point. And he used that
to, to give some nnessee. Here, he
		
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			says that the love between us, the
only reason you've come to visit
		
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			us is because of the fact that I'm
a believer, and you're a believer
		
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			that you have Iman, and we have
Iman, and he says that's the only
		
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			reason we don't have any other
motive. This is the reason we've
		
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			come because based on Iman, And
subhanAllah This is the beauty of
		
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			the Muslim ummah, I don't think
there's any other religious
		
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			background with such a huge
diverse membership and community,
		
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			speaking all the languages of the
world, that when you go somewhere,
		
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			and you just say a Salam Alikum to
someone, the heart just suddenly
		
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			melts, you feel a sense of
security, you feel a sense of
		
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			security, I know you can't trust
everybody out there. But
		
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			generally, whenever you say a
Salam, there's just this
		
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			interaction that takes place, and
this is the world over, I could go
		
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			to Egypt, I could go to Sudan, I
could go to West Africa, I could
		
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			go to India, I could go to China,
I could go anywhere in the world.
		
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			And as soon as you say a Salam
Alikum, as a Muslim, as a
		
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			believer, suddenly, the dynamics
just suddenly change. And this is
		
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			because of the Iman that we have.
And this is the value of the Iman
		
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			and the faith that we carry with
us. So he really he pointed that
		
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			out. There was one other thing
that he mentioned, which was kind
		
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			of interesting, he asked the
question about whether there's a
		
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			tradition in our culture. I'm, I'm
not sure if he meant in England,
		
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			or if he meant in the Indo Pak
subcontinent. But whether there
		
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			was a culture of having more than
one wife. That was kind of very
		
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			interesting, interesting question
that he had. And they said that we
		
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			don't generally have that the
older generations did the previous
		
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			generation, and definitely the
generation before that, but in
		
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			this generation, there's not much
of it, some people do it, but
		
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			there's not much of it that's
happening now. And what we found
		
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			very interesting is that, within
this these Moorish people in
		
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			Mauritania, which is the Berber
Arab, of people of Berber Arab
		
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			descent, they don't, the women do
not allow it, they he says that
		
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			the women have too much loofa
they've got too much self dignity
		
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			in that regard, that they will not
allow this to happen. However, it
		
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			happens quite, you know, quite a
lot in the more African tribes,
		
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			like the wall of the Fulani, etc,
but within within them within the,
		
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			the kind of Moorish people, it
doesn't it doesn't happen as much
		
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			when he learned that we, we
practice the Naqshbandi way
		
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			because he's DiGiovanni he
mashallah he he knew somewhat
		
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			about the next Monday's and he
says that it's Atari cotton and
		
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			eat cotton. It's an excellent
path. It's an excellent path. So
		
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			before before we left, he also
gifted us some books. And this is
		
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			another tradition with an animal
that they'll give. They'll gift a
		
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			gift of books to others when they
visit. So one of the books that he
		
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			gave us this quality, economical
18 Beta, holy moly, the number we
		
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			chose will be raw material amino
Salahi omega T L. Mocha Rabin. So
		
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			this is basically about
establishing the mold. I mean,
		
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			there's a number of there's a
number of discussions on the mold.
		
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			So he had this he asked what our
understanding of the mold it was.
		
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			And he said that generally the
ALMA, the duben, the scholars of
		
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			the subcontinent, they don't have
a problem with the mold in
		
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			general. Because if when once you
reveal, oh well comes about,
		
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			you'll see that throughout the
day, when the sphere you'll see
		
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			that they'll have programs sere
program, it's just that they don't
		
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			call it the molded, they call
them, the sera programs. They will
		
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			speak about Rasulullah sallallahu
sallam, and they won't focus on
		
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			the day specifically, but they
will focus on that time around.
		
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			And I think this obviously comes
from some of the polemics that
		
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			they've had some of the issues
that that arose in the Indian
		
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			subcontinent. So he says, Yes, I
can understand that that you know,
		
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			Sudan little bob, just to kind of
close the door to bigger facade,
		
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			there are certain restrictions
that have been placed on it, and
		
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			so on and so forth. Another book
that he wrote is called an E chord
		
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			with the heavy Iranian soil at the
MAL Bashir in the view. And this
		
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			is the book that I referenced that
this is actually this entire book
		
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			of about 70 Something pages is
about trying to establish the
		
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			importance of the Sunnah in the
life of a Muslim and how it's bad
		
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			for people to have bad other and
this was written because of that
		
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			other Mauritanian scholar who said
that the turban is no more than a
		
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			cultural symbol that Abuja used to
have as well. So finally, finally,
		
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			we left him the next place
		
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			that we went to and the next
caller that we went to was in
		
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			Berea, which was on the way to
shake Morabito at Hyde, which was
		
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			chick BA, is normally known as
Sheikh Baba His name is Sheikh
		
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			Mohammed file, if not Abdullah, he
is known to have studied a few
		
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			texts under some scholars. And
then after that, he is known to
		
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			have taught himself the rest of
fifth and jurisprudence, and he's
		
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			now about 79 years old. He's got
huge respect for other Allah ma,
		
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			and he's one of the distinctions
about him is that he's probably
		
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			the most traveled of the
Mauritanian scholars in terms that
		
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			he's traveled to a number of
different countries. He writes a
		
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			lot of fatwa and he's willing to,
you know, provide some he heard
		
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			beyond, beyond the written fatwa,
beyond the written text of the of
		
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			the Maliki school, he's willing
to, you know, do each Jihad and
		
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			give a fatwa on many modern
Messiah. So he's done a few things
		
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			he's even written when he was
requested about mechanical
		
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			slaughter of chicken in the West.
So he's even written about
		
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			subjects like that. One of the
books that he gifted us was a book
		
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			on boycotting Danish goods, which
was an issue that took place some
		
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			some years ago with the comic, so
he actually wrote a book on so you
		
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			can see that he's got a very
international outlook and he's not
		
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			just sitting in his village.
Though he is sitting in his
		
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			village he has he has travelled a
bit. And he's a very good friend
		
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			of Sheikh Mohammed Al Hassan, who
is the prolific writer and
		
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			commentator of number of source
texts, which who we visit later,
		
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			Sheikh Mohammed Hassan and him are
very good friends and Sheikh
		
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			Mohammed has been used to come
once a year to visit Sheikh Bara
		
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			and discuss Messiah, et cetera.
That was one of the few places
		
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			only that Sheikh Mohammed Al
Hassan used to go to so you can
		
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			see the connection between the
two. I've already mentioned in the
		
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			previous videos that he lives in a
Bahia which is about three hours
		
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			or so. From from Nova Scotia, the
capital itself with about 500
		
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			homes.
		
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			Again, very hospitable. The family
is very hospitable, his son stayed
		
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			with us throughout while we were
waiting to see him, made sure we
		
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			ate first they probably sacrifice
something Allahu annum, but they
		
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			saved us a really sumptuous dish
of some sort the best you know
		
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			that. Mauritanians generally
provide and and then after that we
		
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			got to visit the sheikh. We spoke
about a number of different
		
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			topics. And this meeting
unfortunately wasn't as
		
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			as detailed as as we would have
liked it to have been but it was
		
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			late at night that we discussed we
had to carry on to our trip to
		
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			shake Morabito HUD, so we had to
we had to leave him but we
		
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			discussed a number of things about
how it is in England and so on and
		
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			so forth and how mashallah there's
modalities in England and how
		
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			there's studies going on today.
The very curious about what the
		
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			Muslims are doing for themselves.
One of the main things that these
		
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			are always asked about is how are
the Muslim men doing? How is the
		
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			status of the Muslim ummah. So
this is the outlook this is, you
		
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			know, the focus of the Scholars,
this is the concern of the
		
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			scholars. One of the books that he
gave me was, I don't think he had
		
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			too many copies left, but this
girl named Anita Sol, Shama Illa,
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam, one of the things about
		
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			the Mauritanian scholars is that
they love to write their poetry.
		
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			So they, what they do is they
reduce a lot of the Maliki texts
		
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			and other texts into poems. So
what he's done here is, this is a
		
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			commentary on a poem based on the
Shamal of Rasulullah sallallahu,
		
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			most likely Shemitah telemovie. So
he's, it's about the Prophet
		
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			salallahu Alaihe Salam starts with
his characteristics and go goes on
		
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			to other topics. The next place
that we went to was where we
		
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			finally got to a sheikh, what are
we to hide, you've already
		
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			followed our journey on how we got
there and the difficulty of that,
		
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			but shake Morabito Hodge, there's
a lot about him already. And he's
		
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			a very strange juxtaposition in
the spiritual world and I'll
		
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			explain that in a bit. His name is
Muhammad is his real name is
		
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			actually Mohamed agnostic Mohammed
bin Sadek, will fool so his family
		
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			tried to qualify for and that's
why the mount Dora is called the
		
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			Medora foo. And there's the
		
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			differing views about how old he
is. His family said he's about
		
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			over 90 The members that were
sitting there. But there is
		
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			another element, I think within
the family that believes that he's
		
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			way over 100 years old. But one
thing that is agreed upon
		
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			throughout the country, meaning to
other scholars that we met as
		
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			well, when they found out that we
were going to visit him or we had
		
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			visited him was that he is
definitely the oldest of the
		
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			scholars in Mauritania, he is
definitely the oldest. And he's
		
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			probably the most Zahid of the
scholars, the most aesthetic of
		
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			the scholars, the one who just cut
away from the world. That's the
		
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			astounding thing about him. Now,
one, one thing about him is that
		
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			he lives about, he lives in the
mountains, 66 kilometers or so off
		
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			the beaten track, meaning of the
main road, which is in all about
		
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			five to five to 600 kilometres in
all to get to him and back. So
		
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			it's probably about 1515 1600
kilometers to get there and back
		
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			so you can see how far he is. What
happened is that he started
		
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			teaching students, and he wanted
no publicity, so he's not into
		
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			publicity whatsoever. He started
teaching students and not forget
		
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			publicity. He doesn't even want
contact with society in general,
		
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			who wants to be just restricted.
And the strangest thing about him
		
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			is that he's become renowned the
world over more than any other
		
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			scholar in Mauritania, despite the
fact that he's the one who's tried
		
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			to hide more than anybody else.
And I think one of the reasons for
		
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			this is obviously Sheikh Hamza
Yusuf Sheikh Hamza Yusuf found, I
		
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			believe, some of his students who
then led a sheikh Hamza to him and
		
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			he went and spent some time in
that mcdata And then of course, he
		
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			became a sheikh Morabito, which
became known the world over, but I
		
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			believe that this is a very
important manifestation of one of
		
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			the hadith of Rasulullah
sallallahu alayhi salam were the
		
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			prophets of Allah some said Manta
Walder, Allah He Rafa Allah, that
		
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			anybody who humbles himself for
the sake of Allah, Allah subhanho
		
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			wa Taala will elevate them will
raise them. So as much as this
		
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			person is trying to hide from
society, there are people who will
		
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			brave these difficult roads and
terrains, and mountains and sand
		
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			dunes and so on and so forth, to
get to him.
		
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			Many people have been inspired to
visit him, you know, because of
		
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			many things that have been written
online about him, Sheikh Hamza is
		
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			exposition on him, and so on, they
go and seek him out. And, of
		
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			course, this the Baroque in
visiting the Saudi Hainan his
		
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			Sharla, from the Saudi Hien. So we
also decided to take the journey.
		
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			Now, the funny thing is that we'd
only known about him before. And
		
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			some of the other names we had in
mind when I talked to my friend.
		
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			And when we got there, we
discovered that there are other
		
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			scholars who may be more scholarly
than him in the sense of academics
		
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			and so on. But as I said, He's
renowned for the fact that he is
		
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			the Moza hit. And one of the most
righteous in that regard, and also
		
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			the oldest of the scholars.
		
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			There's newer scholars that have
gone from the west to either study
		
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			with him or try to study with him.
It's not easy at all. I'll be
		
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			discussing that a bit later, or
they've gone to study with his
		
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			students or other people that are
related. shiksa ALEC is also one
		
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			of his students who's who's who's
in America. So there's a number of
		
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			well known foreigners have gone
for example, there's Sheikh Hamza
		
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			Chaudhary, a friend of mine who's
in Chicago. Now, he studied there
		
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			for some months. Of course, she
comes the use of there's Sheikh
		
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			Rama, who studied there for a few
years. In fact, he stayed there
		
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			and he studied what's known about
Sheikh Moravec of Hajj is that he
		
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			went for Hajj walking across
western Africa. I've got across
		
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			the whole of Africa from the west
of Africa, right across to the
		
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			east of Africa, and then over into
into Arabia, and he did his hajj
		
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			when he came back, he decided to
move away from the community, it
		
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			seems so then he found this place.
And believe me, it's very
		
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			difficult to get the to to
displace.
		
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			We met a number of his family
there as well. Shikata here who
		
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			stayed with us for a while checked
out here again, has similar it
		
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			appears that he has a similar kind
of disposition as his as his
		
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			father. He didn't want to be
videoed right at all. He didn't
		
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			want to come in a video as well.
His grandson, you know, we had a
		
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			good discussion with him. We've
already already provided some
		
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			footage on him. His name is Sheikh
Abdullah bin Salman, who's a
		
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			grandson. His father is the
scholar we met later on as we left
		
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			to a mirage where Sheikh Morabito
Hodges, so we were able to have a
		
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			good conversation with Chick Taha
and Sheikh Sheikh Abdullah and
		
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			then after that, when we actually
went to visit Sheikh Mohammed Al
		
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			Hajj, unfortunately, he was not
awake, he only becomes conscious
		
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			maybe once a day or something. And
he he, he talks to some of his
		
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			family or something like that. So
as I said, he's very old, very,
		
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			very old. So we were able to
obviously touch his hand and as
		
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			we're sitting there with some of
his other families, he's in a
		
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			tent, so he's not even in the
building. It's he's in a tent, and
		
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			he's on the ground, just on a rug
or something like that. You can
		
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			see that it's just very basic, the
		
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			They lifestyle is just like that.
And in the middle of that he
		
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			started saying Lai Lai, la, la, la
la la la la la and then he can't
		
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			you know, and then and then he was
he was he was silent again. There
		
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			we met another scholar who was
sitting there. He's about 80 years
		
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			old his name is Sheikh had Amin is
also a teacher of many of these
		
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			foreign students. He remember she
comes to Chaudry. And very fondly
		
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			in fact, and mashallah, he's a
very jolly very again, he's 80
		
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			years old, but he seems so jolly,
I wish I could have stayed a bit
		
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			longer, and had a bigger
discussion with him. But then
		
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			after that, we had to leave. So we
couldn't stay, we couldn't stay
		
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			longer, we had a
		
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			longer journey ahead, we went to
meet on the way back to New York
		
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			shot just off the road slightly a
place called Angel Hashima, which
		
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			I've already discussed. There, we
this was quite late at night, it
		
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			was quite late at night, there no
light whatsoever. And the shift we
		
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			met there, I felt the most sukoon
and I think the sheikh there is
		
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			known to be of extreme piety, of
extreme piety, you know, like
		
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			really, really righteous, really
pious, and I think you could feel
		
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			it in the air down there because
there was just so much
		
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			tranquility, so much peace in that
area, no light, just a bit of
		
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			moonlight. And I wish I could have
sat there and you know, just did
		
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			some do some meditation or
something. But we didn't have the
		
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			time. And we had to leave. But
definitely, if somebody goes they
		
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			should go and sit there they
should visit. And they should they
		
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			should benefit from the
tranquility down there. He was
		
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			sitting among a number of books,
not even not even a light bulb was
		
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			there at the time Allahu Allah
myth. There was no electricity at
		
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			the time or they don't have
electricity at all. They there was
		
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			just a torch lamp or something
like that, or they were using
		
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			phones, phones for that. Then back
in no Oxshott we went to visit
		
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			another scholar who is much
younger than the others. Most of
		
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			the scholars that we met so far,
they were all over 70 But they all
		
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			seem to be decently healthy. They
all seem to be decently healthy.
		
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			When we got back to New Oxford, we
then went to visit a friend of
		
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			a friend of our host brother,
matara. We went to visit a friend
		
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			of him who's a shake the and he
has his own masjid. And he has his
		
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			own Zoja there and he's a shake of
the Dijon Italica. And I think the
		
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			benefit that we had with him was
that he we had a lot more time
		
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			down there. And he's, again, he's
very down to earth, very casual,
		
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			no formalities, no pretenses. His
name is shaped by a sheikh by Al
		
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			Haber. He's half Mauritian, he's
half
		
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			he's he's half Moorish, and he's
half Wolof. And he's also linked
		
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			through his mother to the big
Dijon shave of West Africa was
		
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			named Sheikh Ibrahim the US. And
Mashallah. He was extremely
		
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			hospitable. He was extremely
hospital, he's in the washroom
		
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			itself. He is known to look after
numerous people, they say that
		
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			about 30 or so people eat with him
every day. And he feeds a lot of
		
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			people and he looks after a lot of
people. But he was he's in Oxford.
		
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			So he's, he's dressed much more
elegantly in the sense that he's
		
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			not in the desert. And, but he's
really down to earth. He hosted us
		
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			we had there's a vicar measureless
after mockery. And even then, he
		
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			was so hospitals but he didn't let
us go. He made sure that we had a
		
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			light supper with him as well. The
benefit I got is that we've got a
		
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			much better understanding of the
tea, Johnny Tariq, especially that
		
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			of the West Africa, the stories of
the Solahart, the pious
		
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			individuals, and some of the some
of the great ways of how the tea
		
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			journey Tariq actually spread
through West Africa used to be
		
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			covered in shoddily before. And
then you had Sheikh Ibrahim nias,
		
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			who, then mashallah managed to
spread the tijjani political to
		
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			such a degree that even the
Hassani people of, of Mauritania,
		
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			took took from him. And there in
his in his lineage.
		
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			He speaks a bit of English as
well. And he's he's traveled to
		
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			South Africa, etc. He had there
were a few Pakistani brothers that
		
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			came to visit, there was a South
African brother that we got to
		
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			speak there as well. So he is kind
of more international, in that
		
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			sense. And because He's based in
the workshop, he has more access,
		
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			or he has more access to this.
		
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			I would definitely say that if
somebody goes to visit No,
		
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			actually, they should try to go
and visit him after maghrib. They
		
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			have the vicar measure this
anyway. And one of the things that
		
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			we pray Joomla there, so what they
do what we do in the Indian
		
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			subcontinent as well, which is
that they have a Bian a lecture in
		
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			Wolof in the in the local African
language. And then after that,
		
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			they have the Athan and then they
have the two hotbeds in Arabic
		
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			because within the Maliki school,
the hotbar has to be in Arabic,
		
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			it's a condition, right? It's even
more strict than it's in the
		
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			Hanafi school, or perceived to be
in the Hanafi school. So you have
		
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			to have the hotbar in Arabic, and
that's why they have the band
		
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			first they have the oven and then
they have the Hotbox and then they
		
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			have the Sadat
		
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			then we went and spent a good
amount of time, like nearly nearly
		
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			a full day one night and much of
the day with Sheikh Mohammed Al
		
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			Hassan in the Zarya call called
TC, which we've got a kind of a
		
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			full documentary on, but about the
sheikh, you've seen some
		
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			interaction with him. And we've
got some footage on that. But the
		
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			main thing about chef, Chef
Mohammed Al Hassan, is that he is
		
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			again, around just around 80 or so
years old, but he seems to be so
		
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			healthy, he was sick on the day
when he had some kind of flu or
		
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			something like that. But still,
he's lying down Sunday, he'll just
		
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			get up. And without glasses, he
pulls out one of the books
		
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			handwritten, and he starts reading
it. And you've seen the footage of
		
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			the way he teaches, he teaches,
you know, different students from
		
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			different parts of the book, the
subtle Helene, when we started, we
		
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			had a discussion with him.
		
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			One thing that you notice about
these scholars is that they may
		
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			not have these massive libraries
that you will find in the west or
		
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			Muslim countries or other Muslim
countries, the they have a
		
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			selection. And now with, you know,
more and more people going there
		
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			to have more, but they really know
what they what they do have what
		
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			the source books that they have,
they really know them well. So
		
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			they memorize them properly. And
you know, he can basically teach
		
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			any of these books, anytime to any
any student. So he's been doing
		
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			this for a number of years. I've
already explained a lot about him.
		
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			One thing he did ask is that our
people, you know, what's the month
		
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			that they follow? So he's very
particular about that about the
		
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			subject. So he said his Hanafi and
then he mentioned that, yes, the
		
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			Hanafi. You know, Imam, Abu
Hanifa, you mentioned some
		
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			praiseworthy words about him that
the fact is Hanafi and so on. Then
		
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			he again, he asked about
		
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			whether books have been translated
into English, whether any of his
		
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			books have been have reached the
UK, and we mentioned Yes, you
		
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			know, you've got Sheikh Hamza use
of his, he's discussed, he's done
		
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			a whole commentary on or used his
methodical, methodical globe.
		
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			There's Sheikh Rami, who is doing
work on some of the other other of
		
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			his books, Sheikh Mohammed Al
Hassan, he is known to have
		
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			written a number of commentaries
on Sheikh Mohammed mo ludes poems,
		
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			and he's well known for that. So
he's a scholar who's using his
		
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			time, very usefully, but the one
thing that stunned me about all of
		
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			them is the amount of you know
that just how healthy how healthy
		
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			they are, because they live in the
desert, they survive on the basic
		
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			foods, and so on, so forth.
Finally, the one other scholar
		
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			that I want to speak about who we
didn't get to meet, and his Medora
		
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			we met a South African student
there who studies there with his
		
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			family with his wife and children.
And he said, that's probably the
		
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			most family conducive place or
mandala there is because it's the
		
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			most advanced one. We didn't
manage to visit because he was off
		
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			our track and we didn't have
enough days. But it's it's a place
		
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			called Mark, which they say Mark
Damo Ilana, which is Mark atoll
		
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			Molana what Our Lord gave us so
that's what that whole area is
		
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			called that village is called the
person is Alhaji al Mishri, Alhaji
		
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			and Mishri. And again, he's
another kind of more a person who
		
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			travels who was more of an
international kind of individual.
		
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			So this place is close to Russa,
which is I believe, towards the
		
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			Senegalese border. And it's
probably the best place for
		
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			foreigners, as we were told by
this South African brother who's
		
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			been there expects to be there for
a few years at least, he says that
		
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			there they actually have a mantra
for women as well. Right?
		
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			Unfortunately, I don't have much
other information, but I'm sure
		
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			you'll be able to find much more
of this information online if
		
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			anybody's interested about that.
And he says that even the social
		
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			aspects are good, because the way
he's organized the city is a
		
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			visionary, the Sheikh Mohammed
Sheikh Al Hajj and missionary he
		
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			is is a visionary, and he's even
organize the village that it's not
		
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			kind of haphazard, 110 to one
house here, one building here, but
		
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			it's kind of organized into
streets and so on. So he's very
		
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			forward kind of looking very
modern in his thinking in that in
		
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			that regard, they have running
water, they have electricity for a
		
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			number of hours a day, about six
hours a day, which is quite unique
		
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			once you go out of no auctions, so
or into the body, basically into
		
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			these murderers. So that
unfortunately, we didn't get to
		
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			see him maybe some other time.
Now, just a round up on the
		
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			scholars. What I discovered
throughout a few points that I
		
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			observed number one is I found
that there were no pretenses that
		
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			were quite straightforward. And
there was no messing around. It
		
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			was quite straightforward. You
What You See Is What You Get.
		
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			Number two, they carry on their
work. They welcome you with great
		
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			hospitality, but they carry on
their work. They're very focused
		
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			on their routine, they but they're
very hospitable as well. They'll
		
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			generally have, you know, because
they've got extended family,
		
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			they'll have somebody that will
stay with you, even if they can't
		
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			attend to you all the time. But
they come and they speak to you.
		
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			They they're not they're not
arrogant or anything of that
		
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			nature. They're very down to
earth, very humble individuals. If
		
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			you if you give them a gift, they
accept it very gracious
		
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			gracefully. They accept it very
gracefully. They're not you know,
		
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			they don't have any pretenses or
anything of that nature. They
		
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			don't show any they don't appear
to show any greed for anything.
		
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			They seem to have a lot of deep
contentment. They don't seem
		
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			To be very well off, but they seem
to do. They have a lot of
		
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			contentment with what they have.
And this is what we observed. They
		
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			have a lot of karma. I've been
told that none of them are
		
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			wealthy, none of them are somebody
that would have to pay zakat. In
		
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			fact, they are eligible for zakat,
because they look after so many
		
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			different people, a lot of money
passes through their hands, and
		
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			they give it to others. Most of
the scholars that we met except
		
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			Sheikh BIOL, Haber, they were all
old, 70s 80s and above, but we
		
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			found that they are very healthy
probably because of the simple
		
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			lifestyle. Avoid all the junk that
we generally get used to eating
		
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			here with all the preservatives
and all the chemicals and
		
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			everything of that nature. This is
quite simple, straightforward
		
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			food. They're not into all these
complex cuisines, or complex
		
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			ingredients. And some of this is a
very simple lifestyle, the way
		
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			they have down there. And I think
just walking on the sand in that
		
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			kind of unbalanced sand without
proper roads, I think that keeps
		
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			you fit anyway. The way it is with
with the external kind of weather
		
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			they teach outside they teach
inside sometimes. Another thing
		
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			is, in terms of the poverty, one
story that was told about Sheikh
		
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			Ibrahim nias, he used to never
have money because he was always
		
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			helping others out. But there was
one year where he kept a portion
		
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			of money that nisab amount to
decide. And he said that I'm
		
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			keeping this aside, so that at the
end of the year I will be, I will
		
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			have to pay the card so that at
least once in my life, I can
		
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			fulfill the obligation of paying
zakat that I can be obliged or
		
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			obligated to pay the Zakat and
just make that EBA also come to
		
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			life, which is one of the pillars
of Islam. So that was our Roundup,
		
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			I'm sure there's a lot a lot more
that I could say. But in the
		
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			limited time that we have this was
the things which impacted me most
		
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			just the fact that they're so
humble. They've kept the tradition
		
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			alive. They're very true to their
word. They're very strong in their
		
00:31:50 --> 00:31:54
			knowledge. They are very strong in
their knowledge and they've kept
		
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			that tradition going, which I
believe is the success of Islam
		
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			that it can it can last anywhere
whether that means in a desert or
		
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			whether that be a city may Allah
subhanho wa Taala reward all of
		
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			them. May Allah subhanho wa Taala
keep them healthy. May Allah
		
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			subhana wa Tada. Give that give
them more prosperity, and grant
		
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			all of them genital for those