Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Marriage

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the negative impact of marriages on relationships and the importance of avoiding divorce. They stress the need for women to be sensitive and not rush to change, and emphasize the importance of avoiding negative emotions and not rushing in to change. They also discuss the importance of avoiding bad behavior and avoiding mistakes, and emphasize the need to be careful about certain behavior and avoid mistakes. The speakers also emphasize the importance of finding male counselors and avoiding divorce, and advise participants to give at least three divorce orders and avoid giving a big divorce if they want to divorce.
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How many of you are married? Like with a wife?

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That's No, I'm serious. Like, how many of you are married?

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Like, put your hands up? I mean, Aren't you proud of it? What's

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wrong with you?

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Okay, all right. There's like a lot here.

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That's what I want to speak about, about marriage, and then divorce,

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I really want to speak about divorce. But it seems really

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sad to start speaking about divorce or speak about marriage

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first. The main thing is, I don't want to start talking to you about

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how to look for a partner. Because you know, that's something people

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speak about a lot. What I want to actually speak about today is

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when a person gets married, there are a number of issues that take

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place in our community that we unfortunately, do, people do. And

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thus, marriages don't really last long. They say statistically

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speaking that less people are remaining within marriages of

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those who actually get married, which is a, which is a sad case,

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there could be a number of reasons for that. It doesn't mean that all

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marriages were very happy before, we have to allow for the fact that

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earlier on, there was a much there was greater pressure for the

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husband or the wife to remain within the marriage despite

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absolutely hating it. Right? The Sharia has given an athlete of

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divorce. It's the worst of things that you can do. But it is there,

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it's there. And it's done. The problem with our community is that

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we don't know how to deal with divorce. So normally, women who

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are divorced have a stigma attached to them. Right? Nobody

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wants to get married to them. And then if you if you ask a girl, why

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are you divorced, there's a normal story that they tell he was seeing

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somebody else. And I'm telling you this from experience, I've seen

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this in about two cases where that was not the case, the husband

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wasn't seeing somebody else. But a divorce girl, she has to make an

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excuse. And the best excuse she can make is he was seeing somebody

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else. But that's bad, because then that's doing that slandering

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somebody else that's making up that's fabricating a lie about

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somebody else.

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We just don't know how to deal with divorced women. Many women in

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our community are depressed. And I'm talking about a community that

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I'm working with. There are women, somebody's sister, somebody's

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daughter, they're depressed to such a degree that they just sit

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in the house after they've been divorced. And they don't do

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anything. They're absolutely depressed, depressed, they do not

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know how to deal with it.

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They're sitting there for 789 10 years.

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Men get depressed as well. But But women get more depressed, they

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have a great greater propensity to become depressed because they have

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greater emotions.

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Firstly, let us start again, when I'm not here to speak about

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women's depression. The point here is that once a person gets

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married, there are a few things that we need to realize. And what

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that is, for example,

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one needs to after doing the istikhara and the matura, after

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asking Allah subhanho wa taala, after consulting with our

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respected elders and other people in your community, and so on, and

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so forth, then when a person does get married,

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it doesn't mean that your job and your responsibility has now ended

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that you've made istikhara and that you've made matura. And now

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it has to go well read, regardless of how you roll the dice, nothing

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works by magic, people have to invest a lot of energy in a

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marriage, especially at the beginning to start a relationship

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to understand each other. There's two score points. I really believe

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that scoring points in a marriage is a very important aspect I'll

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get I'll get to that soon. For example, what I'm saying is that

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if you get married, and then you want to continue with the same

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lifestyle that you've been,

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that you've been practicing before marriage, then it's most likely

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not going to work. The person you've got married to is not

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something you just bought. And it's just it's just there like an

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inanimate object. It's a human being that has thoughts just like

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you do, has emotions has feelings has desire has need, and these

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need to be met. And you cannot continue to go out with your

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friends. For example, there are some people who insist on going

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out with friends as they used to beforehand. These are people who

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have, you know, a number of friends and they're always going

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out with them. Now the poor wife She's waiting in, you know,

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waiting on a Saturday night when they're supposed to be together,

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and he's out with his friends. And this is starts from the second

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week sometimes or the third week, or even the first week sometimes.

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This happens less frequently with women. They have another problem.

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There's another issue with when we check which I'll deal with

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that really aggravates a marriage, for example, recently, there was a

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couple that just got married, they went to Turkey on their honeymoon,

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both mashallah religious, to a certain degree practicing to a

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certain degree, the football was, there was some match, and I have

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no idea which which match it was. And it was in Turkey, the TV set

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in the room did not work. So he went downstairs to this is on the

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first or the second day after they got there. Right. It's supposed to

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be romantic. But this religion that this person is a believer in

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of football is obviously more important. And believe me, if if

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you think I have no idea what you guys, you know, not you guys, but

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people who have this religion feel like then please forgive me?

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Because I don't. Right? It's a religion.

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So what this person does is he goes downstairs and he spent two

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or two hours, two and a half, and how long is a match?

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90 minutes, right? So about one and a half hours. Actually, he

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spent more time than that. And she's actually waiting in German.

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And finally she went to sleep. But this sowed the seed of, of hatred

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between them. Because not only did he do it, then he carried on then

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he started speaking to the people there in the lobby. And then he

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came back in he says, I was giving Dawa.

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And maybe he was maybe he was, but it was an insensitive thing to do

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an absolutely insensitive thing to do. And that's the issue here. He

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did this for two or three days. When I speak about the you know, I

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don't like to brag on about football, right? I don't like to

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bang on about football, or you know, you guys follow this

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standard. I don't like to say that. But seriously, you need to

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think about it from an emotional perspective. People who are so

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besotted with this game, that they willing to overcome these things.

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I mean, the experience that people have had is that you're in or out

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of, you're on the Day of Arafah in the middle of our effort, that is

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the day when shaytaan is even despicable, where shaytan is so

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humiliated, because he sees the Mercy of Allah subhanaw taala

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descending down in tolerance, and people just being receiving this

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mercy. But yet there are people who will be texting back to the UK

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to find out what the latest scores are on that day.

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Now, again, I don't get it. That's why I'm condemning it. You guys

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are gonna think you don't understand where we're coming

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from. I know I don't I'm really sorry. And that's just like, non

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Muslims do not understand why Muslims pray five times a day.

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Right? And if they come and criticize you, like, what's this

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going up and down five times a day? What's this wearing this, the

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women wear hijabs and you guys can't eat? You know, you guys

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can't go to McDonald's and you know, all that kind of stuff. And

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you think right brother, you guys, you don't get it. That's what

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you're probably saying to me about football.

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These are, these are modern day religions. And you must think

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about it from that. Because a religion is something which you

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will give yourself to fully it takes, it doesn't give you

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anything. You're not physically, financially benefiting from this.

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But you have such an adherence to it.

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You have such an adherence to it. For example, the new Apple shop

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opened in London, people flew in from as far as China for the first

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day not to buy anything, just to be there when the shop when the

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Apple store opened up.

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That's a religion.

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Seriously, this is like a religion. Otherwise, why would

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somebody go from so far? When you go to Mecca? Do you physically get

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anything, you spend money 3000 4000 For a hygiene, you will

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go there, you're not going to physically get anything, you're

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gonna have to spend money. But the reason you go there is because you

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know, you believe and you feel this spirituality.

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So why these other things?

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Just Just think about it, just think about it. Right? Because you

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have to think about it.

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Because at the end of the day, it's about our last moment and it

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influences then everything in our life. So now this poor couple

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what the issue there was an it's a perfect model for us to discuss

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this. The woman they both religious people, they both

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righteous people. But this particular that the girl was very

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sensitive. And the guy was very extroverted in the sense that

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he's very brash in the way he speaks. Right when he sends me an

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email, he's like

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He uses da you know, instead of the and stuff like that. Some

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really like gangster style language.

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You laughing at me again, but this guy doesn't get anything man.

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Okay, anyway, that's just his No, I understand him. I know where

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he's coming from. I don't mind

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And because I have some experience alone that Allah has given me some

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experience that you don't just look at the initial the way,

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people aren't always so experienced. And the person cannot

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be so brash and just just try to act like that,

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in his brush mode with somebody who is sensitive, of course, the

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sensitive person needs to loosen up a bit. But it's easier for the

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other person to understand that somebody is sensitive. So take it

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easy, not everybody understands me the way my friends do.

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And now this marriage is broken.

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Now this marriage is broken. And then when marriages break, they

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becomes another issue. This is not the reason why the marriage broke.

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There are also other reasons. In the beginning, what the woman's

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side of it is, what happens with women is that in some cases,

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they're very attached to their families, their sisters and their

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mother, very attached. And day by day, they give them an update on

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what they did.

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And take this as advice, do not do that.

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Live it for yourself, yes, if you've got an issue that you

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cannot deal with, then bring your family into it. Otherwise, your

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family will be governing your marriage, and your family doesn't

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know how to govern your marriage, especially in England. The reason

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is that if you go back to the villages, everybody had a very

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similar mindset. There was a

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social way of thinking that everybody shared, because it was

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such a tribal kind of mentality that we had where, you know, you

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would expect this kind of thing to happen. But come nowadays,

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everybody's an individualist, that's just it's because people

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think different than their parents, especially when you've

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got a generation gap, that parents are from another country and are

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originally from another country. They're immigrants. And, and, and

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the offspring are not the next generation or not. If you start

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telling them your everyday this is what we did this was that they

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were going to give you pointers, they're not going to remain

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silent. There's no but you should do this, you should do this. Now

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you're not acting by yourself. You're not trying to be yourself

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anymore. You're trying to be somebody else. And this messes it

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up because you're not original to yourself. The husband gets the

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husband doesn't know how to deal with the he's confused. Are you

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you? Are you somebody else? I thought you were like this, but

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no, I can hear something else coming through. He doesn't know

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that. It's the influences from the family.

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Some parents are so possessive. They want to know everything,

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including what happens in the bedroom.

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Wallahi.

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Seriously, it's true. They want to know what happens and all the

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other girls have no problem in sharing that. And everything is

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governed

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the worst of the people that you can bring in at this point in

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time, and there's no problem is sometimes your parents like this.

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Do it yourself.

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Yes, if you've got a problem, try to deal with it yourself. Ask

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Allah try to do because initially, after the Romantic period of a

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marriage is over the first month, two months, three months, as long

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as it is unique,

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then there will be some issues. But you can easily learn learn to

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overcome them in most cases. In some cases, there's an absolute

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incompatibility. So it doesn't work out. But in most cases, it

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can be dealt with. But yes, if you've tried your best and it's

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not working, then get them involved. Absolutely. We're not

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saying do it alone, get them involved. But when girls have too

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much attachment to their family, and they're not willing to give

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themselves to their husband, then they will not get their husband

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either. Likewise, if the guys have too much attachment to whatever

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else that they're doing, because literally what one guy one guy did

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I go gym, I go this I do this I do this, and he just wanted to fit

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her in somewhere. And he's saying okay, you have to go into the

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shopping while I go to the gym. Right? Because I want to become a

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millionaire. I'm not joking. This is normal. This is absolutely

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true. I want to become millionaire you have to help me so his routine

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remain the absolute same before and after marriage. The only thing

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that was different was that he dug up his room

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and now the girl the girl is saying that no my family has only

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shopped together so I want to do that I want you have to shop with

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me which I think is also wrong you know it doesn't matter if your

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family shop to get it's not like a sunnah to shop together or

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something. Right?

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So you've got each side now putting the reason for that is

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both sides are not trying to understand the other. Each one is

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trying to impose their understanding. It's literally like

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your wife cooks you biryani for the first time you don't like it

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because you like your mom's video anymore.

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So you're now you're insisting to her that no you have to learn

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according to my mum,

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which is fine. You could do that. But just take your time just do

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some supper. Let her build her confidence. Then organize where

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she can learn from your mother

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She'll know how to do two videos on Islam.

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Right, but don't do in the beginning. It's just about being

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sensitive about these things. We try to rush in, we try to change

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them and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned the

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Hadith, which I'd read so many times before, but it's only after

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you get married, that you really understand it. The Prophet

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sallallahu sallam said, that a lot of the woman is, is created from

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the rib, and of the ribs, the highest, the uppermost one, which

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is the most crooked, right? It's a fact. That's what the Hadith

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mentions.

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And the Prophet sallallahu sallam said, if you try to straighten it,

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you will break it. Because you can't straighten a rib.

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Right? You will break it, you need to benefit from it. Despite this

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crookedness, and believe me, that's where the pleasure is.

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That's where the pleasure is. In dealing with this, you cannot have

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a perfect person and neither are you a perfect person. Nobody is a

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perfect person. Initially, when, even when people are dating. They

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do they, they act their their best, they act their best, they

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act very formally, they really behave. Right. So normally people

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say you need to date to be able to understand somebody, like, how am

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I going to do that for? Because what's going to happen is

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normally, when you date somebody, as people, do, people act, all

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formal and good. And in their behavior, then

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what happens is if they fail, and one of their weaknesses becomes

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exposed, that opponent says, Well, I'm not interested in you anymore,

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because there's no commitment. So you don't have to make your work.

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You just say, forget it. The benefit about marriage is that

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when you discover a weakness, if you're wise enough, and you've

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been told that there are weaknesses that people have,

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nobody's perfect, you will try to overcome that weakness and say,

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well, even somebody else would have a weakness. That's why the

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professor Lawson said something else. Yeah, if you dislike

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something of her,

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then look at the points that you would like, because there has to

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be some positives of focus on the positives. This is in any

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relationship, especially in marriage, because you can't hire

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and fire here. It's not that easy. And culture makes it even worse,

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to get married. It's very difficult.

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So it's about the point I'm trying to make here is about the

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sensitivity is about the sensitivity aspect. Another thing,

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sometimes what happens is that the husband feels responsible, right,

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that he must correct the wife in everything. And sometimes the as

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in one case, I saw the wife was more learned. She was an oedema

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and the husband wasn't. But he wanted to marry him so that she

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could teach him.

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Right? I don't. And I think he even said that to her. And I don't

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think you should do that. Right? I don't think you should do that. It

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really depends on the person, because every person and not all

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animals are the same animals are human beings. They're just women,

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right? With some knowledge, right? Just like our names are human

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beings with knowledge. But then they have an individual human

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trait that everybody has. So you can't blame animals for what one

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animal does. And you can't blame doctors for what one doctor and

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when Ireland for what sort of all items for one item does. So you

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have to remember that.

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What happened is they were in the shopping in the supermarket. He

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has a friend whose wife works there. And she is she she's got a

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discount card. Right now in most places like Sainsbury's And know

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this, because somebody told me about it. You get a employee card,

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you can only use it for yourself and your own family. You can't let

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a friend use it. You got a 10% discount, apparently. But it's

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other supermarkets. I won't mention it because you might want

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to go and work there. Right? Is friends and family. So it's family

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and friends. She didn't know that. So they did their first shopping.

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And I said hold on, hold on, let me call up my friend. See if his

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wife's here we can you know get a 10% discount. Right? So

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she said haram in the middle of the search is haram we can't do as

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Naja is, you know, not permissible. And

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is that the way to deal with it?

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When you're in your marriage, if the other person has a bad habit,

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the way to correct them would be with wisdom with love and

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affection.

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It's not to just make a point. It doesn't you can't correct anybody

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like that.

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Except in very limited situations, circumstances.

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So what does this make it in the middle of the store? So I said

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what did you do then? He said, Well, I just walked out

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afterwards. I just didn't know what to say.

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She was doing well.

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right in the sense that she she thought she was doing right later

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she that they discovered that it's well, he knew, but she jumped she,

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she jumped to conclusions.

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So you have to be very careful about these things.

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You just have to take it easy.

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You, you, you give somebody that we're in, in a in a very wise way,

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I mean

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for the women, Maulana Akram nadwi. from Oxford, he's written,

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he's done a lot of research on female scholarship. Mahadevi

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thought it's called he's written a, an introduction to the many

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volumes that discuss the biographies of the female

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scholars. And what he's done is he's written an introduction to

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this series. And in there, what it mentions is that after reading the

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lives of all of these great scholars, write all of these great

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Mahadevi thought, I'll give you an example.

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Sorry, diplomacy tube was a great derby.

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His daughter had studied, she was very beautiful. She'd studied

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under him. And many came to ask for her hand in marriage,

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including the Hadith. I think Abdullah Medicube, number one, but

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he refused everybody.

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Finally, he had her marry one of his students, a very humble, quiet

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kind of student. So they got married a day later or something,

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he got up in the morning, put on his clothing, his shawl, and he

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was about to go outside. And she said, What are you going, you

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said, I'm going to Doris, I'm going to study he said, take your

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she said take your could take your cloak off. I'll teach you

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everything that Sally didn't almost say you can teach you.

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I'll teach you that there's. So you had women like that in in

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history.

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However, what Sheikh Akram nadwi says is that after reading the

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lives of all of these people, you will never find that despite this

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all this great knowledge that they had,

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that they ever

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acted like what we could call modern day feminists

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and refuse to do certain works that are understood to be the

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domain of the wife

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and call for a certain type of equality, which is a bit strange

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to most Muslim households.

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There's both sides are to be blamed. And that's the problem

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both sides are to be blamed as we got you got this from both sides.

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I mean, again, just nothing that comes to mind.

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For our women out there,

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if you act aggressive,

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you will not score any points.

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You the reason why you will not score any points

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is because aggressive aggression, harshness, that attitude is a

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masculine attitude. And your husband has married you

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as a woman, for your femininity, not for your feminism. And you

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have to make that distinction. Be feminine.

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Don't be negative feminists. positive feminists is where

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absolutely the rights are being downtrodden, the rights are being

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abused, and you need to get your rights, I can understand that. But

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remember the secrets for a woman in her marriage is her femininity,

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is the love, the compassion, the affection that she shows, you will

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be able to overcome your husband like that

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more effectively than with aggression.

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Of course, there are exempt there are there are exceptions to this.

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This. There are exceptions to everything. So you mustn't say

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that, you know, I'm saying to even those who are absolutely being

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abused and the husband is an absolutely insensitive, rough,

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violent, a, you know, abusive individual who doesn't even

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understand compassion. There are people of that nature. Because you

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get call. I mean, you get emails from women. Every time I come in

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the house, I have to avoid my father.

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I have to avoid my father. Because we just cannot hold a

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conversation. Everything ends up in me being told off about

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something. And I've come in sometimes the house and he's hit

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my head to the door

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What can I mean, I have to just advise such people to go to the

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police. They got nobody I said do you have any? Do you have any

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cousins? Any uncles that can help you know my nobody lives? Nobody

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can talk to my dad

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So there are people like that, who just do not understand they have a

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certain mindset. And they do not want to change because now they're

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5060 years old. And it's miserable for the children inside the house.

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And it's miserable for the wife inside the house. You know, the

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problem is that you think you can't change.

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If you're listening right now, you think you can't change because

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that's how you've been for the last 20 3040 years.

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You can change

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your human being human beings can change. People can go from being

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an absolute Catherine Allah, to becoming to becoming one of the

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greatest and most pious people.

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So why can't you change, you need to just do the right thing. You

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need to speak to aroma. And you need to speak to some decent

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counselors.

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It works. Swallow your pride and go and go and get something done.

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If you've got an anger problem talking to the men, if you've got

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an anger problem, some women have that as well. It was in the news

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recently, that the woman beat up the husband. And he used to be

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scared of her.

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And you know, she finally killed him.

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And the reason why she killed him was over what to watch on TV, he

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wanted to watch something, she wanted to watch something else, it

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was an argument. And I don't know what she'd done. She stabbed him

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in the knee or something like it was on the BBC just a month ago.

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So it does happen the other way around. But not as frequently men

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are normally the culprits in this. If you've got a problem, go get

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some help. You can you can get some help. And those who are

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studying in universities and places, one of the things that you

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can start thinking about is to learn counseling, to study

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counseling, the women who are going and doing all sorts of other

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funny things, arts, you know, you know, all sorts of strange things

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go that's one field that you need to in because we need women

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counselors, we need male counselors, Muslims who understand

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where some righteousness,

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we need these things.

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It's very important.

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So beef, when I speak to the women is be feminine.

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Don't Don't try to be masculine, because you won't be respected.

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They've done studies right now that even women in the workforce,

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women on boards, women, you know, in companies, do they get more

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credit for being masculine? Or are they there for the femininity?

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What's more respect, they've done studies of this nature, because

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it's a recent phenomenon that so many women are in the workforce.

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So they've been studying these things. And what's appreciated is

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the femininity,

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one needs to realize that when you start acting away from your role,

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then there will be problems, there will be issues.

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And finally,

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if it does come to a divorced, I know my lectures a bit disjointed,

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because it's such a vast topic, starting from how to find a

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partner to what to do. And during the marriage and issues, it's just

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such a vast thing. The reason is that you've got two individuals,

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and the variables, the possibilities are multitude, or a

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multitude. There's so many possibilities.

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You could have a couple and you've seen this, they're married,

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they're having problems, they ended up in a divorce, each one of

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these two got married to somebody else. And now they're happily

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living, just the dynamics are different. Sometimes what happens

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is you got two decent individuals, you put them together and the

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sparks that fly. When you look at them separately, they find mother

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in law daughter in law, that's a common one. You look at them, the

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daughter in India, as an individual, she's fine, a decent

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woman, you look at the mother in law with everybody else, she's

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decent. But when you put them two together, it just doesn't work.

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Sometimes not always. But sometimes it doesn't work.

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You have to take some measures to deal with it them. You can't

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expect it to just change. You have to take some positive steps to

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change these things and to make these things. So as I said, my

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lecture is probably disjointed. And since I've spoken about many

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different things, but the one thing that I want to speak about,

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which is probably the thing that hurts me most, because what

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happens is two things. One is in the last few months, right. And I

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can say this for any set of months.

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I would have probably received and I'm sure that other Obama would

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have probably received the same thing that somebody calls up and

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says, I've got something to talk to you about. What is it? And now

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I can even guess what they're going to speak about. I divorced

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my wife. So what did you say? I said Talaq, Talaq Talaq,

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right? They know what they've done wrong, because they've got a fatwa

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from someone else, but they finding you know, they asking

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different people, right. And basically what I'm talking about

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is the three divorces. So I asked them, I said, Why did you divorce

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three times? He said, That's what I thought you had to do.

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I'm thinking Subhanallah you think Allah is so weak that he want

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divorce isn't strong enough to do what you have?

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To do that you have to use three

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like Allah didn't make one divorce strong enough and they do three

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then you know the excuses people come up with I'm not very

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religious I don't really practice my so where did you come up with

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three them? Like three where do you get the magic number three why

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wasn't one to 20 million? You know like if you really wanted a very

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angry like a million divorces

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I can understand that. But when you get three, the magic number

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one would have done it. I was actually once I was driving with

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somebody in Philadelphia, he was taking me from the airport to to

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the program and

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I was talking to him and he says, Yeah, I got divorced. And you

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know, we divorced and so how many divorces because he felt like he

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you know, he liked her. So I was like, okay, maybe I can help to

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try to see I said, How many divorces Have you given he says

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one. I said okay, mashallah, that's very good. Do I need to

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give some more? Have I done it right? Should I give the other

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two? I said no, brother, no. One is sufficient. One is sufficient.

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People have this major misunderstanding. I'm telling you

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in just yesterday, literally somebody have never seen him

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before. He comes to me after I said, I want to speak to you I've

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got a problem. And they started telling me some long story right

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from about 10 years ago. I said, Brother, what is your question?

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Because you're not that he's not telling you. You know, he's they

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started with a long story. You have to listen to everything. But

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at least if you know what the question is, the story will start

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making some more sense to you. says, What's your question? So

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again, he then he starts from about like,

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two months ago, like no, just give me your question first. Okay, I

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divorced my wife, I said Talaq, Talaq Talaq, but I was very angry.

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That's a typical excuse. Of course, you're angry, who gives

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divorces when they're happy? People do. Very few people, you

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know that those were measured. But most people do give divorces when

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they're angry. But that's valid. It's an effective divorce. And

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that's what you have to realize. It is an effective divorce. So let

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me tell you brothers and sisters are home because there are sisters

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who asked for it. It was this blackmail that takes place.

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This blackmail that takes place. You do this just give me a

00:32:03 --> 00:32:05

divorce. They don't really mean it.

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It's like a friend of mine is an imam somewhere. He was somebody

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had passed away. So his wife comes in says

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but Mooji John Doe Moochie Marjana had to stand up and everybody's

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holding her back. Then the Imam said, You know what, Hamas, Joe

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Joe are gone.

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And then she will kind of walk up. It's just a scene that people

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make, right? We can laugh about it. But it's serious. What I want

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each one of you to do today is to go until at least three to five

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people just go and tell him three to five people that if you don't

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have to if you are going to divorce because we want to

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encourage divorce here. But say that you know many people miss

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understand that when a person has to divorce that you have to give

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three? No, you just have to give one. It's strong enough. If you're

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really angry, you can say I give you a big divorce. I give you a

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strong divorce. You can make it a you know, I don't want to go into

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the thick of it. But if you give one divorce, the benefit is that

00:33:01 --> 00:33:04

you can actually come back together. But if you give three

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divorces, you have to do some dirty halala they call it right.

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Yeah, you know, she has to get married. Somebody else have a

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consumate marriage and it gets really dirty. And you don't want

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to do that. Like yesterday, the guy said we're ready to do halala.

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Brother, you want you want you want me to do something haram for

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you. You want me to advise you on something haram? I mean, I sent

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him to some Farsi speaking audience. Let him deal with you.

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Right. It's really sad. It's really sad, right? And these are

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happening, I'm telling you, they tell you we're ignorant. We don't

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know our religion. So how do you know about three I just don't get

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that. It's really sad. So brothers and sisters listening at home,

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please tell at least three different people because this is

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such a misunderstanding in our community that people just blurt

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out three, and one is more than sufficient. One is more than

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sufficient.

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Say something else, but do not say more than more than one divorce.

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One friend told me he was in Egypt. And he what he saw was that

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he went to somebody's house. And in some cultures, they do this and

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it's really bad. Right?

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He was saying I don't want to eat. So there was some guests there.

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And he put out some food or he said I'll bring you some food. And

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he said no, we don't want to eat. So what he then said is,

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if you don't eat my wife is divorced.

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It is really sad. This is really sad. This is so despicable. And

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the reason is, she's the one who cooked the food. And now you're

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saying if you guys don't eat, then she is divorced.

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Now imagine if you had some stubborn guy down there. Right?

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And he said, No, I'm not gonna eat I don't care.

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Then what's going to happen?

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This is a joke. It's a joke. It's sad.

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And women do this as well just give me a divorce just give me a

00:35:02 --> 00:35:05

deal. We'll just say it just say it you should not do that. You

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should not deal with it. You should not speak about this. You

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know, the reason why people normally give divorces

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okay? You know why people actually give divorces is and accidentally

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is because they entertaining the thought in their mind. If you

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don't entertain the thought in your mind, you can get as angry

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and I've seen people get angry with their with their wives or

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husbands or whatever. They don't say divorce, you say something

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else. But if you entertain the thought, anyway, next time she

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does this, I'm going to say it, then it will come out even though

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you don't want to say it. Don't entertain it. The weirdest story

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is that a couple came to me and they were studying Arabic.

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And you know, their question was they were studying Arabic. And I

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said to you know, my wife, she said to me, it was the other way

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around. Is that Auntie polyphonic? Practicing the Arabic and the

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polygon, which means you are divorced. Like can you think of

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saying anything else?

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There's such misunderstanding about this the other day somebody

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else called me he said, If I'm explaining from caduti dots, and

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I'm explaining the how divorce issues work, will my wife become

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divorced? I'm saying yes, that will.

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I was just joking with him. You can discuss it an Alan can discuss

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it with somebody else I would expect it will not be he won't be

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divorcing his wife. But if you joke around with your wife,

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because Professor Lawson said three things if you joke, or

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you're serious, they will be affected. And one of them is is is

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divorce. So you do not say even for a joke. And the reason the way

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you can abstain from saying it accidentally is by not

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entertaining it in your mind. Right? May Allah subhanaw taala

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give you an eye all the Tofik to preserve our marriages enhance

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them, because the one person that is going to be with you in

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Paradise is going to be your spouse. You won't be with your

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mother or your daughter or your son or your father or your uncle

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or whoever it is. You will be with your wife. You won't be with your

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girlfriend or boyfriend for that matter.

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If you're even if we're even in paradise for that, but you will be

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with your spouse Subhanallah

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make it go well make it go well, may Allah give us all the Tofig

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that we both can enter into genetic videos, both us and our

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spouses. And may Allah subhanho wa Taala give us Tofik welcome

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