Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Marriage

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the negative impact of marriages on relationships and the importance of avoiding divorce. They stress the need for women to be sensitive and not rush to change, and emphasize the importance of avoiding negative emotions and not rushing in to change. They also discuss the importance of avoiding bad behavior and avoiding mistakes, and emphasize the need to be careful about certain behavior and avoid mistakes. The speakers also emphasize the importance of finding male counselors and avoiding divorce, and advise participants to give at least three divorce orders and avoid giving a big divorce if they want to divorce.

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			How many of you are married? Like
with a wife?
		
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			That's No, I'm serious. Like, how
many of you are married?
		
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			Like, put your hands up? I mean,
Aren't you proud of it? What's
		
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			wrong with you?
		
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			Okay, all right. There's like a
lot here.
		
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			That's what I want to speak about,
about marriage, and then divorce,
		
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			I really want to speak about
divorce. But it seems really
		
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			sad to start speaking about
divorce or speak about marriage
		
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			first. The main thing is, I don't
want to start talking to you about
		
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			how to look for a partner. Because
you know, that's something people
		
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			speak about a lot. What I want to
actually speak about today is
		
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			when a person gets married, there
are a number of issues that take
		
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			place in our community that we
unfortunately, do, people do. And
		
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			thus, marriages don't really last
long. They say statistically
		
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			speaking that less people are
remaining within marriages of
		
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			those who actually get married,
which is a, which is a sad case,
		
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			there could be a number of reasons
for that. It doesn't mean that all
		
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			marriages were very happy before,
we have to allow for the fact that
		
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			earlier on, there was a much there
was greater pressure for the
		
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			husband or the wife to remain
within the marriage despite
		
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			absolutely hating it. Right? The
Sharia has given an athlete of
		
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			divorce. It's the worst of things
that you can do. But it is there,
		
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			it's there. And it's done. The
problem with our community is that
		
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			we don't know how to deal with
divorce. So normally, women who
		
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			are divorced have a stigma
attached to them. Right? Nobody
		
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			wants to get married to them. And
then if you if you ask a girl, why
		
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			are you divorced, there's a normal
story that they tell he was seeing
		
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			somebody else. And I'm telling you
this from experience, I've seen
		
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			this in about two cases where that
was not the case, the husband
		
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			wasn't seeing somebody else. But a
divorce girl, she has to make an
		
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			excuse. And the best excuse she
can make is he was seeing somebody
		
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			else. But that's bad, because then
that's doing that slandering
		
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			somebody else that's making up
that's fabricating a lie about
		
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			somebody else.
		
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			We just don't know how to deal
with divorced women. Many women in
		
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			our community are depressed. And
I'm talking about a community that
		
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			I'm working with. There are women,
somebody's sister, somebody's
		
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			daughter, they're depressed to
such a degree that they just sit
		
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			in the house after they've been
divorced. And they don't do
		
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			anything. They're absolutely
depressed, depressed, they do not
		
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			know how to deal with it.
		
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			They're sitting there for 789 10
years.
		
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			Men get depressed as well. But But
women get more depressed, they
		
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			have a great greater propensity to
become depressed because they have
		
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			greater emotions.
		
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			Firstly, let us start again, when
I'm not here to speak about
		
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			women's depression. The point here
is that once a person gets
		
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			married, there are a few things
that we need to realize. And what
		
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			that is, for example,
		
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			one needs to after doing the
istikhara and the matura, after
		
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			asking Allah subhanho wa taala,
after consulting with our
		
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			respected elders and other people
in your community, and so on, and
		
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			so forth, then when a person does
get married,
		
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			it doesn't mean that your job and
your responsibility has now ended
		
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			that you've made istikhara and
that you've made matura. And now
		
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			it has to go well read, regardless
of how you roll the dice, nothing
		
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			works by magic, people have to
invest a lot of energy in a
		
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			marriage, especially at the
beginning to start a relationship
		
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			to understand each other. There's
two score points. I really believe
		
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			that scoring points in a marriage
is a very important aspect I'll
		
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			get I'll get to that soon. For
example, what I'm saying is that
		
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			if you get married, and then you
want to continue with the same
		
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			lifestyle that you've been,
		
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			that you've been practicing before
marriage, then it's most likely
		
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			not going to work. The person
you've got married to is not
		
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			something you just bought. And
it's just it's just there like an
		
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			inanimate object. It's a human
being that has thoughts just like
		
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			you do, has emotions has feelings
has desire has need, and these
		
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			need to be met. And you cannot
continue to go out with your
		
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			friends. For example, there are
some people who insist on going
		
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			out with friends as they used to
beforehand. These are people who
		
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			have, you know, a number of
friends and they're always going
		
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			out with them. Now the poor wife
She's waiting in, you know,
		
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			waiting on a Saturday night when
they're supposed to be together,
		
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			and he's out with his friends. And
this is starts from the second
		
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			week sometimes or the third week,
or even the first week sometimes.
		
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			This happens less frequently with
women. They have another problem.
		
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			There's another issue with when we
check which I'll deal with
		
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			that really aggravates a marriage,
for example, recently, there was a
		
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			couple that just got married, they
went to Turkey on their honeymoon,
		
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			both mashallah religious, to a
certain degree practicing to a
		
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			certain degree, the football was,
there was some match, and I have
		
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			no idea which which match it was.
And it was in Turkey, the TV set
		
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			in the room did not work. So he
went downstairs to this is on the
		
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			first or the second day after they
got there. Right. It's supposed to
		
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			be romantic. But this religion
that this person is a believer in
		
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			of football is obviously more
important. And believe me, if if
		
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			you think I have no idea what you
guys, you know, not you guys, but
		
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			people who have this religion feel
like then please forgive me?
		
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			Because I don't. Right? It's a
religion.
		
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			So what this person does is he
goes downstairs and he spent two
		
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			or two hours, two and a half, and
how long is a match?
		
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			90 minutes, right? So about one
and a half hours. Actually, he
		
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			spent more time than that. And
she's actually waiting in German.
		
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			And finally she went to sleep. But
this sowed the seed of, of hatred
		
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			between them. Because not only did
he do it, then he carried on then
		
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			he started speaking to the people
there in the lobby. And then he
		
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			came back in he says, I was giving
Dawa.
		
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			And maybe he was maybe he was, but
it was an insensitive thing to do
		
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			an absolutely insensitive thing to
do. And that's the issue here. He
		
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			did this for two or three days.
When I speak about the you know, I
		
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			don't like to brag on about
football, right? I don't like to
		
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			bang on about football, or you
know, you guys follow this
		
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			standard. I don't like to say
that. But seriously, you need to
		
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			think about it from an emotional
perspective. People who are so
		
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			besotted with this game, that they
willing to overcome these things.
		
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			I mean, the experience that people
have had is that you're in or out
		
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			of, you're on the Day of Arafah in
the middle of our effort, that is
		
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			the day when shaytaan is even
despicable, where shaytan is so
		
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			humiliated, because he sees the
Mercy of Allah subhanaw taala
		
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			descending down in tolerance, and
people just being receiving this
		
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			mercy. But yet there are people
who will be texting back to the UK
		
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			to find out what the latest scores
are on that day.
		
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			Now, again, I don't get it. That's
why I'm condemning it. You guys
		
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			are gonna think you don't
understand where we're coming
		
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			from. I know I don't I'm really
sorry. And that's just like, non
		
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			Muslims do not understand why
Muslims pray five times a day.
		
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			Right? And if they come and
criticize you, like, what's this
		
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			going up and down five times a
day? What's this wearing this, the
		
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			women wear hijabs and you guys
can't eat? You know, you guys
		
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			can't go to McDonald's and you
know, all that kind of stuff. And
		
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			you think right brother, you guys,
you don't get it. That's what
		
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			you're probably saying to me about
football.
		
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			These are, these are modern day
religions. And you must think
		
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			about it from that. Because a
religion is something which you
		
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			will give yourself to fully it
takes, it doesn't give you
		
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			anything. You're not physically,
financially benefiting from this.
		
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			But you have such an adherence to
it.
		
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			You have such an adherence to it.
For example, the new Apple shop
		
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			opened in London, people flew in
from as far as China for the first
		
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			day not to buy anything, just to
be there when the shop when the
		
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			Apple store opened up.
		
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			That's a religion.
		
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			Seriously, this is like a
religion. Otherwise, why would
		
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			somebody go from so far? When you
go to Mecca? Do you physically get
		
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			anything, you spend money
3000 4000 For a hygiene, you will
		
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			go there, you're not going to
physically get anything, you're
		
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			gonna have to spend money. But the
reason you go there is because you
		
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			know, you believe and you feel
this spirituality.
		
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			So why these other things?
		
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			Just Just think about it, just
think about it. Right? Because you
		
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			have to think about it.
		
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			Because at the end of the day,
it's about our last moment and it
		
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			influences then everything in our
life. So now this poor couple
		
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			what the issue there was an it's a
perfect model for us to discuss
		
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			this. The woman they both
religious people, they both
		
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			righteous people. But this
particular that the girl was very
		
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			sensitive. And the guy was very
extroverted in the sense that
		
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			he's very brash in the way he
speaks. Right when he sends me an
		
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			email, he's like
		
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			He uses da you know, instead of
the and stuff like that. Some
		
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			really like gangster style
language.
		
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			You laughing at me again, but this
guy doesn't get anything man.
		
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			Okay, anyway, that's just his No,
I understand him. I know where
		
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			he's coming from. I don't mind
		
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			And because I have some experience
alone that Allah has given me some
		
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			experience that you don't just
look at the initial the way,
		
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			people aren't always so
experienced. And the person cannot
		
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			be so brash and just just try to
act like that,
		
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			in his brush mode with somebody
who is sensitive, of course, the
		
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			sensitive person needs to loosen
up a bit. But it's easier for the
		
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			other person to understand that
somebody is sensitive. So take it
		
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			easy, not everybody understands me
the way my friends do.
		
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			And now this marriage is broken.
		
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			Now this marriage is broken. And
then when marriages break, they
		
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			becomes another issue. This is not
the reason why the marriage broke.
		
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			There are also other reasons. In
the beginning, what the woman's
		
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			side of it is, what happens with
women is that in some cases,
		
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			they're very attached to their
families, their sisters and their
		
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			mother, very attached. And day by
day, they give them an update on
		
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			what they did.
		
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			And take this as advice, do not do
that.
		
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			Live it for yourself, yes, if
you've got an issue that you
		
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			cannot deal with, then bring your
family into it. Otherwise, your
		
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			family will be governing your
marriage, and your family doesn't
		
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			know how to govern your marriage,
especially in England. The reason
		
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			is that if you go back to the
villages, everybody had a very
		
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			similar mindset. There was a
		
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			social way of thinking that
everybody shared, because it was
		
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			such a tribal kind of mentality
that we had where, you know, you
		
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			would expect this kind of thing to
happen. But come nowadays,
		
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			everybody's an individualist,
that's just it's because people
		
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			think different than their
parents, especially when you've
		
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			got a generation gap, that parents
are from another country and are
		
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			originally from another country.
They're immigrants. And, and, and
		
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			the offspring are not the next
generation or not. If you start
		
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			telling them your everyday this is
what we did this was that they
		
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			were going to give you pointers,
they're not going to remain
		
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			silent. There's no but you should
do this, you should do this. Now
		
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			you're not acting by yourself.
You're not trying to be yourself
		
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			anymore. You're trying to be
somebody else. And this messes it
		
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			up because you're not original to
yourself. The husband gets the
		
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			husband doesn't know how to deal
with the he's confused. Are you
		
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			you? Are you somebody else? I
thought you were like this, but
		
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			no, I can hear something else
coming through. He doesn't know
		
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			that. It's the influences from the
family.
		
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			Some parents are so possessive.
They want to know everything,
		
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			including what happens in the
bedroom.
		
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			Wallahi.
		
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			Seriously, it's true. They want to
know what happens and all the
		
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			other girls have no problem in
sharing that. And everything is
		
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			governed
		
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			the worst of the people that you
can bring in at this point in
		
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			time, and there's no problem is
sometimes your parents like this.
		
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			Do it yourself.
		
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			Yes, if you've got a problem, try
to deal with it yourself. Ask
		
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			Allah try to do because initially,
after the Romantic period of a
		
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			marriage is over the first month,
two months, three months, as long
		
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			as it is unique,
		
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			then there will be some issues.
But you can easily learn learn to
		
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			overcome them in most cases. In
some cases, there's an absolute
		
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			incompatibility. So it doesn't
work out. But in most cases, it
		
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			can be dealt with. But yes, if
you've tried your best and it's
		
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			not working, then get them
involved. Absolutely. We're not
		
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			saying do it alone, get them
involved. But when girls have too
		
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			much attachment to their family,
and they're not willing to give
		
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			themselves to their husband, then
they will not get their husband
		
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			either. Likewise, if the guys have
too much attachment to whatever
		
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			else that they're doing, because
literally what one guy one guy did
		
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			I go gym, I go this I do this I do
this, and he just wanted to fit
		
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			her in somewhere. And he's saying
okay, you have to go into the
		
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			shopping while I go to the gym.
Right? Because I want to become a
		
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			millionaire. I'm not joking. This
is normal. This is absolutely
		
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			true. I want to become millionaire
you have to help me so his routine
		
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			remain the absolute same before
and after marriage. The only thing
		
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			that was different was that he dug
up his room
		
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			and now the girl the girl is
saying that no my family has only
		
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			shopped together so I want to do
that I want you have to shop with
		
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			me which I think is also wrong you
know it doesn't matter if your
		
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			family shop to get it's not like a
sunnah to shop together or
		
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			something. Right?
		
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			So you've got each side now
putting the reason for that is
		
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			both sides are not trying to
understand the other. Each one is
		
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			trying to impose their
understanding. It's literally like
		
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			your wife cooks you biryani for
the first time you don't like it
		
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			because you like your mom's video
anymore.
		
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			So you're now you're insisting to
her that no you have to learn
		
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			according to my mum,
		
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			which is fine. You could do that.
But just take your time just do
		
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			some supper. Let her build her
confidence. Then organize where
		
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			she can learn from your mother
		
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			She'll know how to do two videos
on Islam.
		
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			Right, but don't do in the
beginning. It's just about being
		
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			sensitive about these things. We
try to rush in, we try to change
		
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			them and the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam mentioned the
		
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			Hadith, which I'd read so many
times before, but it's only after
		
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			you get married, that you really
understand it. The Prophet
		
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			sallallahu sallam said, that a lot
of the woman is, is created from
		
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			the rib, and of the ribs, the
highest, the uppermost one, which
		
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			is the most crooked, right? It's a
fact. That's what the Hadith
		
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			mentions.
		
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			And the Prophet sallallahu sallam
said, if you try to straighten it,
		
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			you will break it. Because you
can't straighten a rib.
		
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			Right? You will break it, you need
to benefit from it. Despite this
		
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			crookedness, and believe me,
that's where the pleasure is.
		
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			That's where the pleasure is. In
dealing with this, you cannot have
		
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			a perfect person and neither are
you a perfect person. Nobody is a
		
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			perfect person. Initially, when,
even when people are dating. They
		
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			do they, they act their their
best, they act their best, they
		
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			act very formally, they really
behave. Right. So normally people
		
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			say you need to date to be able to
understand somebody, like, how am
		
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			I going to do that for? Because
what's going to happen is
		
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			normally, when you date somebody,
as people, do, people act, all
		
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			formal and good. And in their
behavior, then
		
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			what happens is if they fail, and
one of their weaknesses becomes
		
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			exposed, that opponent says, Well,
I'm not interested in you anymore,
		
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			because there's no commitment. So
you don't have to make your work.
		
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			You just say, forget it. The
benefit about marriage is that
		
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			when you discover a weakness, if
you're wise enough, and you've
		
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			been told that there are
weaknesses that people have,
		
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			nobody's perfect, you will try to
overcome that weakness and say,
		
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			well, even somebody else would
have a weakness. That's why the
		
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			professor Lawson said something
else. Yeah, if you dislike
		
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			something of her,
		
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			then look at the points that you
would like, because there has to
		
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			be some positives of focus on the
positives. This is in any
		
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			relationship, especially in
marriage, because you can't hire
		
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			and fire here. It's not that easy.
And culture makes it even worse,
		
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			to get married. It's very
difficult.
		
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			So it's about the point I'm trying
to make here is about the
		
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			sensitivity is about the
sensitivity aspect. Another thing,
		
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			sometimes what happens is that the
husband feels responsible, right,
		
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			that he must correct the wife in
everything. And sometimes the as
		
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			in one case, I saw the wife was
more learned. She was an oedema
		
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			and the husband wasn't. But he
wanted to marry him so that she
		
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			could teach him.
		
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			Right? I don't. And I think he
even said that to her. And I don't
		
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			think you should do that. Right? I
don't think you should do that. It
		
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			really depends on the person,
because every person and not all
		
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			animals are the same animals are
human beings. They're just women,
		
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			right? With some knowledge, right?
Just like our names are human
		
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			beings with knowledge. But then
they have an individual human
		
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			trait that everybody has. So you
can't blame animals for what one
		
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			animal does. And you can't blame
doctors for what one doctor and
		
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			when Ireland for what sort of all
items for one item does. So you
		
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			have to remember that.
		
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			What happened is they were in the
shopping in the supermarket. He
		
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			has a friend whose wife works
there. And she is she she's got a
		
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			discount card. Right now in most
places like Sainsbury's And know
		
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			this, because somebody told me
about it. You get a employee card,
		
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			you can only use it for yourself
and your own family. You can't let
		
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			a friend use it. You got a 10%
discount, apparently. But it's
		
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			other supermarkets. I won't
mention it because you might want
		
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			to go and work there. Right? Is
friends and family. So it's family
		
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			and friends. She didn't know that.
So they did their first shopping.
		
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			And I said hold on, hold on, let
me call up my friend. See if his
		
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			wife's here we can you know get a
10% discount. Right? So
		
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			she said haram in the middle of
the search is haram we can't do as
		
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			Naja is, you know, not
permissible. And
		
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			is that the way to deal with it?
		
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			When you're in your marriage, if
the other person has a bad habit,
		
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			the way to correct them would be
with wisdom with love and
		
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			affection.
		
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			It's not to just make a point. It
doesn't you can't correct anybody
		
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			like that.
		
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			Except in very limited situations,
circumstances.
		
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			So what does this make it in the
middle of the store? So I said
		
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			what did you do then? He said,
Well, I just walked out
		
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			afterwards. I just didn't know
what to say.
		
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			She was doing well.
		
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			right in the sense that she she
thought she was doing right later
		
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			she that they discovered that it's
well, he knew, but she jumped she,
		
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			she jumped to conclusions.
		
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			So you have to be very careful
about these things.
		
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			You just have to take it easy.
		
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			You, you, you give somebody that
we're in, in a in a very wise way,
		
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			I mean
		
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			for the women, Maulana Akram
nadwi. from Oxford, he's written,
		
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			he's done a lot of research on
female scholarship. Mahadevi
		
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			thought it's called he's written
a, an introduction to the many
		
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			volumes that discuss the
biographies of the female
		
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			scholars. And what he's done is
he's written an introduction to
		
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			this series. And in there, what it
mentions is that after reading the
		
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			lives of all of these great
scholars, write all of these great
		
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			Mahadevi thought, I'll give you an
example.
		
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			Sorry, diplomacy tube was a great
derby.
		
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			His daughter had studied, she was
very beautiful. She'd studied
		
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			under him. And many came to ask
for her hand in marriage,
		
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			including the Hadith. I think
Abdullah Medicube, number one, but
		
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			he refused everybody.
		
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			Finally, he had her marry one of
his students, a very humble, quiet
		
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			kind of student. So they got
married a day later or something,
		
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			he got up in the morning, put on
his clothing, his shawl, and he
		
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			was about to go outside. And she
said, What are you going, you
		
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			said, I'm going to Doris, I'm
going to study he said, take your
		
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			she said take your could take your
cloak off. I'll teach you
		
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			everything that Sally didn't
almost say you can teach you.
		
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			I'll teach you that there's. So
you had women like that in in
		
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			history.
		
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			However, what Sheikh Akram nadwi
says is that after reading the
		
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			lives of all of these people, you
will never find that despite this
		
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			all this great knowledge that they
had,
		
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			that they ever
		
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			acted like what we could call
modern day feminists
		
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			and refuse to do certain works
that are understood to be the
		
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			domain of the wife
		
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			and call for a certain type of
equality, which is a bit strange
		
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			to most Muslim households.
		
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			There's both sides are to be
blamed. And that's the problem
		
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			both sides are to be blamed as we
got you got this from both sides.
		
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			I mean, again, just nothing that
comes to mind.
		
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			For our women out there,
		
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			if you act aggressive,
		
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			you will not score any points.
		
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			You the reason why you will not
score any points
		
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			is because aggressive aggression,
harshness, that attitude is a
		
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			masculine attitude. And your
husband has married you
		
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			as a woman, for your femininity,
not for your feminism. And you
		
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			have to make that distinction. Be
feminine.
		
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			Don't be negative feminists.
positive feminists is where
		
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			absolutely the rights are being
downtrodden, the rights are being
		
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			abused, and you need to get your
rights, I can understand that. But
		
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			remember the secrets for a woman
in her marriage is her femininity,
		
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			is the love, the compassion, the
affection that she shows, you will
		
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			be able to overcome your husband
like that
		
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			more effectively than with
aggression.
		
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			Of course, there are exempt there
are there are exceptions to this.
		
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			This. There are exceptions to
everything. So you mustn't say
		
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			that, you know, I'm saying to even
those who are absolutely being
		
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			abused and the husband is an
absolutely insensitive, rough,
		
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			violent, a, you know, abusive
individual who doesn't even
		
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			understand compassion. There are
people of that nature. Because you
		
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			get call. I mean, you get emails
from women. Every time I come in
		
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			the house, I have to avoid my
father.
		
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			I have to avoid my father. Because
we just cannot hold a
		
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			conversation. Everything ends up
in me being told off about
		
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			something. And I've come in
sometimes the house and he's hit
		
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			my head to the door
		
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			What can I mean, I have to just
advise such people to go to the
		
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			police. They got nobody I said do
you have any? Do you have any
		
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			cousins? Any uncles that can help
you know my nobody lives? Nobody
		
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			can talk to my dad
		
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			So there are people like that, who
just do not understand they have a
		
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			certain mindset. And they do not
want to change because now they're
		
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			5060 years old. And it's miserable
for the children inside the house.
		
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			And it's miserable for the wife
inside the house. You know, the
		
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			problem is that you think you
can't change.
		
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			If you're listening right now, you
think you can't change because
		
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			that's how you've been for the
last 20 3040 years.
		
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			You can change
		
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			your human being human beings can
change. People can go from being
		
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			an absolute Catherine Allah, to
becoming to becoming one of the
		
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			greatest and most pious people.
		
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			So why can't you change, you need
to just do the right thing. You
		
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			need to speak to aroma. And you
need to speak to some decent
		
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			counselors.
		
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			It works. Swallow your pride and
go and go and get something done.
		
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			If you've got an anger problem
talking to the men, if you've got
		
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			an anger problem, some women have
that as well. It was in the news
		
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			recently, that the woman beat up
the husband. And he used to be
		
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			scared of her.
		
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			And you know, she finally killed
him.
		
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			And the reason why she killed him
was over what to watch on TV, he
		
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			wanted to watch something, she
wanted to watch something else, it
		
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			was an argument. And I don't know
what she'd done. She stabbed him
		
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			in the knee or something like it
was on the BBC just a month ago.
		
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			So it does happen the other way
around. But not as frequently men
		
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			are normally the culprits in this.
If you've got a problem, go get
		
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			some help. You can you can get
some help. And those who are
		
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			studying in universities and
places, one of the things that you
		
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			can start thinking about is to
learn counseling, to study
		
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			counseling, the women who are
going and doing all sorts of other
		
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			funny things, arts, you know, you
know, all sorts of strange things
		
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			go that's one field that you need
to in because we need women
		
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			counselors, we need male
counselors, Muslims who understand
		
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			where some righteousness,
		
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			we need these things.
		
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			It's very important.
		
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			So beef, when I speak to the women
is be feminine.
		
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			Don't Don't try to be masculine,
because you won't be respected.
		
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			They've done studies right now
that even women in the workforce,
		
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			women on boards, women, you know,
in companies, do they get more
		
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			credit for being masculine? Or are
they there for the femininity?
		
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			What's more respect, they've done
studies of this nature, because
		
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			it's a recent phenomenon that so
many women are in the workforce.
		
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			So they've been studying these
things. And what's appreciated is
		
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			the femininity,
		
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			one needs to realize that when you
start acting away from your role,
		
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			then there will be problems, there
will be issues.
		
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			And finally,
		
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			if it does come to a divorced, I
know my lectures a bit disjointed,
		
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			because it's such a vast topic,
starting from how to find a
		
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			partner to what to do. And during
the marriage and issues, it's just
		
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			such a vast thing. The reason is
that you've got two individuals,
		
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			and the variables, the
possibilities are multitude, or a
		
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			multitude. There's so many
possibilities.
		
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			You could have a couple and you've
seen this, they're married,
		
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			they're having problems, they
ended up in a divorce, each one of
		
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			these two got married to somebody
else. And now they're happily
		
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			living, just the dynamics are
different. Sometimes what happens
		
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			is you got two decent individuals,
you put them together and the
		
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			sparks that fly. When you look at
them separately, they find mother
		
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			in law daughter in law, that's a
common one. You look at them, the
		
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			daughter in India, as an
individual, she's fine, a decent
		
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			woman, you look at the mother in
law with everybody else, she's
		
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			decent. But when you put them two
together, it just doesn't work.
		
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			Sometimes not always. But
sometimes it doesn't work.
		
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			You have to take some measures to
deal with it them. You can't
		
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			expect it to just change. You have
to take some positive steps to
		
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			change these things and to make
these things. So as I said, my
		
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			lecture is probably disjointed.
And since I've spoken about many
		
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			different things, but the one
thing that I want to speak about,
		
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			which is probably the thing that
hurts me most, because what
		
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			happens is two things. One is in
the last few months, right. And I
		
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			can say this for any set of
months.
		
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			I would have probably received and
I'm sure that other Obama would
		
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			have probably received the same
thing that somebody calls up and
		
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			says, I've got something to talk
to you about. What is it? And now
		
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			I can even guess what they're
going to speak about. I divorced
		
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			my wife. So what did you say? I
said Talaq, Talaq Talaq,
		
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			right? They know what they've done
wrong, because they've got a fatwa
		
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			from someone else, but they
finding you know, they asking
		
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			different people, right. And
basically what I'm talking about
		
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			is the three divorces. So I asked
them, I said, Why did you divorce
		
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			three times? He said, That's what
I thought you had to do.
		
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			I'm thinking Subhanallah you think
Allah is so weak that he want
		
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			divorce isn't strong enough to do
what you have?
		
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			To do that you have to use three
		
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			like Allah didn't make one divorce
strong enough and they do three
		
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			then you know the excuses people
come up with I'm not very
		
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			religious I don't really practice
my so where did you come up with
		
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			three them? Like three where do
you get the magic number three why
		
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			wasn't one to 20 million? You know
like if you really wanted a very
		
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			angry like a million divorces
		
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			I can understand that. But when
you get three, the magic number
		
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			one would have done it. I was
actually once I was driving with
		
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			somebody in Philadelphia, he was
taking me from the airport to to
		
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			the program and
		
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			I was talking to him and he says,
Yeah, I got divorced. And you
		
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			know, we divorced and so how many
divorces because he felt like he
		
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			you know, he liked her. So I was
like, okay, maybe I can help to
		
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			try to see I said, How many
divorces Have you given he says
		
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			one. I said okay, mashallah,
that's very good. Do I need to
		
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			give some more? Have I done it
right? Should I give the other
		
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			two? I said no, brother, no. One
is sufficient. One is sufficient.
		
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			People have this major
misunderstanding. I'm telling you
		
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			in just yesterday, literally
somebody have never seen him
		
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			before. He comes to me after I
said, I want to speak to you I've
		
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			got a problem. And they started
telling me some long story right
		
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			from about 10 years ago. I said,
Brother, what is your question?
		
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			Because you're not that he's not
telling you. You know, he's they
		
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			started with a long story. You
have to listen to everything. But
		
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			at least if you know what the
question is, the story will start
		
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			making some more sense to you.
says, What's your question? So
		
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			again, he then he starts from
about like,
		
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			two months ago, like no, just give
me your question first. Okay, I
		
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			divorced my wife, I said Talaq,
Talaq Talaq, but I was very angry.
		
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			That's a typical excuse. Of
course, you're angry, who gives
		
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			divorces when they're happy?
People do. Very few people, you
		
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			know that those were measured. But
most people do give divorces when
		
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			they're angry. But that's valid.
It's an effective divorce. And
		
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			that's what you have to realize.
It is an effective divorce. So let
		
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			me tell you brothers and sisters
are home because there are sisters
		
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			who asked for it. It was this
blackmail that takes place.
		
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			This blackmail that takes place.
You do this just give me a
		
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			divorce. They don't really mean
it.
		
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			It's like a friend of mine is an
imam somewhere. He was somebody
		
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			had passed away. So his wife comes
in says
		
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			but Mooji John Doe Moochie Marjana
had to stand up and everybody's
		
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			holding her back. Then the Imam
said, You know what, Hamas, Joe
		
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			Joe are gone.
		
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			And then she will kind of walk up.
It's just a scene that people
		
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			make, right? We can laugh about
it. But it's serious. What I want
		
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			each one of you to do today is to
go until at least three to five
		
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			people just go and tell him three
to five people that if you don't
		
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			have to if you are going to
divorce because we want to
		
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			encourage divorce here. But say
that you know many people miss
		
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			understand that when a person has
to divorce that you have to give
		
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			three? No, you just have to give
one. It's strong enough. If you're
		
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			really angry, you can say I give
you a big divorce. I give you a
		
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			strong divorce. You can make it a
you know, I don't want to go into
		
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			the thick of it. But if you give
one divorce, the benefit is that
		
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			you can actually come back
together. But if you give three
		
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			divorces, you have to do some
dirty halala they call it right.
		
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			Yeah, you know, she has to get
married. Somebody else have a
		
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			consumate marriage and it gets
really dirty. And you don't want
		
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			to do that. Like yesterday, the
guy said we're ready to do halala.
		
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			Brother, you want you want you
want me to do something haram for
		
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			you. You want me to advise you on
something haram? I mean, I sent
		
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			him to some Farsi speaking
audience. Let him deal with you.
		
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			Right. It's really sad. It's
really sad, right? And these are
		
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			happening, I'm telling you, they
tell you we're ignorant. We don't
		
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			know our religion. So how do you
know about three I just don't get
		
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			that. It's really sad. So brothers
and sisters listening at home,
		
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			please tell at least three
different people because this is
		
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			such a misunderstanding in our
community that people just blurt
		
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			out three, and one is more than
sufficient. One is more than
		
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			sufficient.
		
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			Say something else, but do not say
more than more than one divorce.
		
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			One friend told me he was in
Egypt. And he what he saw was that
		
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			he went to somebody's house. And
in some cultures, they do this and
		
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			it's really bad. Right?
		
00:34:17 --> 00:34:20
			He was saying I don't want to eat.
So there was some guests there.
		
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			And he put out some food or he
said I'll bring you some food. And
		
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			he said no, we don't want to eat.
So what he then said is,
		
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			if you don't eat my wife is
divorced.
		
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			It is really sad. This is really
sad. This is so despicable. And
		
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			the reason is, she's the one who
cooked the food. And now you're
		
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			saying if you guys don't eat, then
she is divorced.
		
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			Now imagine if you had some
stubborn guy down there. Right?
		
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			And he said, No, I'm not gonna eat
I don't care.
		
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			Then what's going to happen?
		
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			This is a joke. It's a joke. It's
sad.
		
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			And women do this as well just
give me a divorce just give me a
		
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			deal. We'll just say it just say
it you should not do that. You
		
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			should not deal with it. You
should not speak about this. You
		
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			know, the reason why people
normally give divorces
		
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			okay? You know why people actually
give divorces is and accidentally
		
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			is because they entertaining the
thought in their mind. If you
		
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			don't entertain the thought in
your mind, you can get as angry
		
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			and I've seen people get angry
with their with their wives or
		
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			husbands or whatever. They don't
say divorce, you say something
		
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			else. But if you entertain the
thought, anyway, next time she
		
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			does this, I'm going to say it,
then it will come out even though
		
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			you don't want to say it. Don't
entertain it. The weirdest story
		
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			is that a couple came to me and
they were studying Arabic.
		
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			And you know, their question was
they were studying Arabic. And I
		
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			said to you know, my wife, she
said to me, it was the other way
		
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			around. Is that Auntie polyphonic?
Practicing the Arabic and the
		
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			polygon, which means you are
divorced. Like can you think of
		
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			saying anything else?
		
00:36:02 --> 00:36:05
			There's such misunderstanding
about this the other day somebody
		
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			else called me he said, If I'm
explaining from caduti dots, and
		
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			I'm explaining the how divorce
issues work, will my wife become
		
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			divorced? I'm saying yes, that
will.
		
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			I was just joking with him. You
can discuss it an Alan can discuss
		
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			it with somebody else I would
expect it will not be he won't be
		
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			divorcing his wife. But if you
joke around with your wife,
		
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			because Professor Lawson said
three things if you joke, or
		
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			you're serious, they will be
affected. And one of them is is is
		
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			divorce. So you do not say even
for a joke. And the reason the way
		
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			you can abstain from saying it
accidentally is by not
		
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			entertaining it in your mind.
Right? May Allah subhanaw taala
		
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			give you an eye all the Tofik to
preserve our marriages enhance
		
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			them, because the one person that
is going to be with you in
		
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			Paradise is going to be your
spouse. You won't be with your
		
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			mother or your daughter or your
son or your father or your uncle
		
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			or whoever it is. You will be with
your wife. You won't be with your
		
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			girlfriend or boyfriend for that
matter.
		
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			If you're even if we're even in
paradise for that, but you will be
		
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			with your spouse Subhanallah
		
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			make it go well make it go well,
may Allah give us all the Tofig
		
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			that we both can enter into
genetic videos, both us and our
		
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			spouses. And may Allah subhanho wa
Taala give us Tofik welcome