Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Making Sense of the 73 Sects and the Ahl alSunna wa’lJama’a

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The history of Islam is discussed, including the split of vertical lines and ideologies used. Personal virtue and criteria for statement made are also discussed. The "the" concept is discussed, with one speaker suggesting that the majority of practitioners consider the same group of people to avoid distraction and confusion. The "the" theory is discussed, with one speaker suggesting that the majority of practitioners consider the same group of people to avoid distraction and confusion.
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Now,

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if we look at the various different sects, in light of the

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Hadith that we just looked at the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa

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sallam said that this ummah will

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separate into 73 sects. Now, what are these 73 sects have there? Has

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there been anybody who's actually listed all of them who's done a

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study of history and listed all of them? Absolutely. It's happened

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many times. In fact, they did this as earlier on as the fourth and

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fifth century. In fact, I would consider the fifth century 400,

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and something to be one of the years of the greatest development.

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Some say that a lot of the sectarian stuff came up when,

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during when the conquest of Islam stopped. When the conquest by the

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Muslims stopped and people were lazy, they decided to take on

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different ideologies, they decided to bicker between them. And this

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gave rise to much of this ideological dissension that we see

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Allah knows best. That is.

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If we look at the various sectarians, you have Abdullah Al

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Baghdadi, Shara Stanyan,

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others who've tried to

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list the 73 sects. Now, from what we studied, we've seen about 56789

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sects, but the thing is that if you look at the martyrs, the

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lights, they divided into about 10 different sects and

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very different from each other. The thing that unites them all,

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were maybe some of the faith principles, rational approach to

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things.

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But it got to such a level that some of them even considered other

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sects within the martyrs delights to be Garfield to be out of the

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fold of Islam. That's how serious it became even between them. If

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you look at the Shiites, you have everything from people who

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consider the Oliver the Allahu Akbar, God, Allah. And when he had

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some of these people burned, that reinforced their faith, because

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they said only Allah can punish it with fire, and thus you must be

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Allah. So you had people at that extreme, and then others who said

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that he was the rightful Prophet and then others said he was the

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rightful first leaf, to the level of those who have mine to show

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you, as they call it, which is that they just prefer it to the

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alarm over with one or the other. They believe that responder the

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alarm is the rightful third belief and added to the honor is the

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fourth Khalif, but in terms of personal virtue, it really alone

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is superior to Earthman whereas the majority opinion there is that

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with the man or the Allah one has greater virtue than it with the

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Alonso individually speaking, though individual speak in terms

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of individual virtue, it really alone may have a virtue like

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bravery, which was more than a bucket of the islands virtue of

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bravery, likewise, with humanity alone may have a level of higher

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which may be higher than the level of aroma or the Allah in that

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regard. But collectively speaking, in terms of collective virtue, Abu

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Bakr is the most superior, followed by Omar followed by

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Earthman, followed by Ali Radi Allahu Anhu. Marine

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Sheikh Khalid Mohammed, Sahara and booty in his commentary on this

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hadith in Abu Dawood, he says a very interesting thing, which

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really sums up because you're talking about Abdullah Al Baghdadi

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from Baghdadi from the fifth century,

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if no hasn't been is Mohalla from earlier, who's writing about the

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73 sects after that, so many sects have appeared, and so many

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probably will continue to appear until the hereafter. So if you

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were to record every single, small, large, great set, you've

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probably come up with hundreds. So what does this hadith mean?

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The thing is that whenever somebody makes a statement, they

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have a criteria in mind. There's a certain criteria in mind, when the

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prophets of Allah Islam said this, there must have been some criteria

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in mind. Nobody asked him exactly. Nobody asked him, How big will the

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SEC be, or each of these sets how strong will they be? How powerful

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How long will they endure for nobody really asked him. So now

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it's a matter of HDR to determine exactly who these 73 sets are,

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that were referred to by the Prophet sallallahu Sallam clearly,

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there is a overarching message in this sectarianism is wrong, and

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the only saved sect will be the one that is on the path of my

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sunnah and that of my companions.

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So what Monica Lena when Sahara and booty says is that the

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prophets Allah ism had a proper criteria in mind of a certain kind

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of sect that would have a certain kind

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of influence, a certain number of amount of following. And only

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Allah knows exactly what that refers to. But we can say for

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sure, based on this hadith that there will be 73 Such sets of a

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quantifiable nature as that. But if you can't every single variant

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ideology, then clearly they will live, they will move into

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hundreds. So I think we'll have to leave it at that. And we just have

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to try to stick to that, which is the Sunnah and the Jamar. That's

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where this name and Asuna will Gemma have formed? So it's based

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on the Hadith. So it's not an innovation, but that's what it is

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Arsenal Gemma.

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And today the fight is that who is the Arsenal drummer that

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everybody's fighting to be in that Allison novel? Gemma?

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Can you consider the * to be careful?

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This is a discussion that will have more in detail when it comes

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to the issue of the career. But in general,

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it's very difficult to consider

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all innovators in ideology. This is a new concept in the sense that

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we normally understand innovation in action in deeds, innovation in

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practices.

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But there is also an innovation in Aqeedah. And such innovation until

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it doesn't lead to kufr is an innovation is an abhorrent

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reprehensible innovation.

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That's why you don't see that the majority of orlimar considered,

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for example, all the Shiites to be careful, those who are extreme

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among them that led to Kufri beliefs, or that held Kufri

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beliefs, they were clearly labeled Gaffer, those of the martyrs the

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lights, the aroma of the Maharana transaksi Aina, they considered a

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group of them consider the martyrs like Scarface that's because the

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delights of that area

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considered

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human to be absolutely independent in his actions,

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which is highly abhorrent opinion, which means taking Allah subhanaw

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taala out of the picture there. Whereas others may have not

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reached that level of innovation of of ideological divergence, and

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thus, they were just innovators. That's why there's no no blanket

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fatwa, from the majority of scholars of any given time that

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all monitors they like to look after, despite all of these

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strange opinions of this, because

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it's very dangerous to do prefer to do the fear of somebody. So

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that's something we'll cover more in detail in the tech field

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section. But this is just to put us put things in perspective, if

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you're ever asked about a particular group, unless that

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group has been known to have a clear, explicit belief that is

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absolute disbelief. And the other might have agreed to that, for

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example, the Qadiani is that's a fatwa that's given by everybody,

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that unless it's a group like that, which is clearly out of the

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fold of Islam, you would rather say that if somebody holds this

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belief, for example, if somebody holds the belief that swearing at

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the Sahaba is permissible, then that's Cofer. So that is the way

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the element normally responded. If anybody believes that Allah has

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human form, then that's Cofer.

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Right, that's Cofer. If anybody believes that, Allah subhanaw

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taala does not know the particulars of things. He only

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knows the universals of things that Schofer so you'd rather give

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an answer

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on the actual Kufri belief rather than condemn an entire group

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unless an entire group has been absolutely known to hold explicit

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belief

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