Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Khatams and Donating Rewards to Others (Isal alThawab)

Okay, let's first start with a silo throw up. He saw the thought

is where can you donate something of what you're doing good deeds to

another person. Now, there's a number of levels of about this.

Firstly, can I perform a physical hedge on behalf of another person

who hasn't performed it yet? And now has no chance to perform it

because they've died or the very old

right? Yes, you can because the Prophet sallallahu sallam said you

can a person came to Brazil awesome, said my mother's died.

And I know she would have done how much can I do? How much on our

behalf? He said, Absolutely, you can do it. So we have a clear

Hadith to that effect. Hajj is a monetary and a physical worship.

Now, you don't generally have anything about praying Salah on

behalf of another, somebody's got called up prayers. Can we do cover

prayers on their behalf? Can I do you know, tarot cards to the gods

for the cards, whatever, for some, you know, for my mother if she

missed them, so now they can't do that. That's not established.

However, what is established is you can get video for it.

Payment for it. But with hedge, you got a special dispensation to

actually do the hedge. Likewise, I can't fast on somebody else's

behalf to fulfill their fasting, but I can pay on their behalf. I

can't pay off a hedge, you have to make somebody do the hedge. Now,

that's doing a worship for somebody else the worship is for

someone else. So there's a distinction in that between

hygiene and other things. When it comes to what we're talking about

here donating the rewards, so I'm doing my own fasting, nothing

fast. I'm doing my own reading of the Quran. I'm doing my own

knuffel Hajj, but I decided that you know, all this reward that

I've got from this reading, or from this fast or from this

charity, I want to give that to somebody, can you do that or not?

So now, there was some disagreement in the earliest

scholars about Quran reading, and it's its reward, they agreed on

certain things and not another things which will be mentioned

here. Right?

Essentially, majority have come to the conclusion that yes, you can

donate the reward. Now, that is for example, I've read I finished

the Quran. So I want to give that reward the reward of it to my

mother, will I also get the reward or not. So some of the other must

say that since your since you're transferring the reward over to

them, you you got no reward left, of course, you got the reward of

doing the act of giving somebody a reward, but actual reward of your

reading the Quran is gone. Other say that, that is the rule. That's

the principle that's the understanding, but inshallah you

Allah will also reward you for it. And we hope from Allah that that's

the case. But either way, you obviously want to give it to

somebody who, for some reason, has left this world or for any other

reason you can give it to a person who is alive or dead, it doesn't

make a difference. Because you're just asking Allah to give it. Now

the one thing which nobody can argue with is Dwars on behalf of

somebody else I always accepted because that's clearly mentioned

the Hadith. So even those who did not agree, initially, in the early

times with the transferring your reward, they could not have any

problems with saying Oh Allah, making a DUA, not just an

intention to make an O Allah of this reward that I've got when you

transfer it over does not want them to have that reward for them.

That should not be a problem.

But anyway, it's generally not seen as a problem anymore. Now,

there are some manifestations of this, which are an issue

which is where, you know, the operational light opera

operationalization of it is an issue. For example, somebody

passes away, and you keep a huddle, which means a special

program and a session in which everybody is invited.

And you all sit and read something like you finish your Quran your

written test be heard or your scene or whatever it is, and then

you say, Oh Allah take the reward of this and give it to the

deceased person. Is that allowed or not?

Per Se Yes, it is allowed. But it becomes problematic due to other

reasons. Number one, the Sahaba never did that. So you could all

sit in your houses and do it. That's why nowadays a lot of

people what they do is they just send it down on WhatsApp. One of

the positive uses of WhatsApp my mother's died. Can you please

everybody take us apart if they can address if they can? Somebody?

Okay, I'll take number one, I'll take number two out there's no

obligation. I'll take this I'll take this. I'll take this Okay,

call us. You guys read it by this time and then I'll make the one

reward. No problem with that. There's no obligation. The problem

is that in many cultures, it's an obligation to do on particular

days. The third the 10th, the 40th the year and, and so on, number

one. Number two, if you don't come

They'll break ties with you.

Right? That is totally wrong. They obligate you to go from here to

Manchester, for example. And you don't really want to go but you're

going because they're gonna cut ties with you. So your petrol

money is all wasted. Your entire day is wasted and you didn't get

any reward for it because you're doing it just to show

rather than that.

If for example, you know, generally after the after somebody

dies in your house,

and people are gonna gather together for what, three days

anyway. So what I think is a good idea is to keep some Carranza keep

some, you know, those separate edges of those separate pots, some

Yacine, some DSP hats, keep them there. And whoever it is, Will

will start reading themselves don't force anybody to read.

They'll take it they'll just be sitting then the three guys are

reading then there's going to be quite foolish for others to start

talking because otherwise they talk about everything under the

sun afterwards. So I found that to be a very useful way there's no

obligation there's no necessity of food, and so on and so forth. And

there's no hard feelings. So as long as there's no hard feelings

in them casually like in some massage and they do this I was in

Mufti Cheb yourselves Masjid in Blackburn and after Salah there

was an announcement we're going to have a Yacine Hutton for so and so

anybody who will can stay stay. So we stayed read Yasin whoever wants

to walk out go there's no obligation as long as there's no

hard feeling it's okay. Because it is a new thing. It is a new thing.

It wasn't done to sort of Lhasa but every new thing is not wrong

to do unless you make it obligatory, or you make it kind of

extra rewarding. We're just facilitating this is not extra

reward. It is facilitation for extra reward. So it's a Waseda

it's a facilitation just kind of make it easy. We're here together

anyway, let's do something for our mother.

Allah