Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Is it Haram for the Wife to take her Husband’s Surname

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the issue of biological father claiming to be the culprit and the negative consequences of it, including problems related to her claim and negative personal attributes. They stress the importance of privacy and privacy-related issues in privacy and privacy-related issues, including the use of surnames in certain cultures and the importance of knowing the end of births. They also mention a woman named Zou who was married to someone in the past and the possibility of her being adopted by someone else.

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			is related to a common question
that's going around and some
		
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			people are getting really extreme
in this regard. The issue is about
		
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			whether the wife can take the
husband's surname, or should she?
		
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			Should she not? Can she? Is it
permissible? Is it necessary or is
		
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			it prohibited? That's what I want
to quickly deal with today. Now,
		
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			first and foremost, with regards
to this issue, what is prohibited
		
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			is that a person claims to be
biologically the child of an
		
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			individual that is not their
biological father. That's really
		
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			what's prohibited. Because if we
look at a hadith, the Prophet
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wa salam, in the
Hadith, the Prophet sallallahu
		
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			alayhi wa sallam mentions that
		
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			the person who
		
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			claims to be a descendant claims
to be a child of the offspring of
		
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			a certain individual,
		
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			paternity, claiming to be the
child of somebody, and he knows
		
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			that he's not, or she knows that
she's not, then that that's the
		
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			warning is about that, that they
will, they will have an issue,
		
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			whoever claims to be the son of
other than his own biological
		
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			father, knowing that he is not,
then paradise is deep is denied
		
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			for that person. So that is the
basis of this right? There's,
		
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			there's a number of Hadith about
this, this is not the only one.
		
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			This particular one is related by
Bukhari and Muslim. There's others
		
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			in Bukhari and Muslim and others
where it speaks. So on the same
		
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			level, that once you attribute
yourself to other than your real
		
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			father, then, you know, trying to
give that image that I am his son,
		
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			I am you know, his daughter, then
this is where paradise becomes
		
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			denied on such a person. Right?
That's our basis. Now, what we
		
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			need to look at is a wife taking
her husband's surname, why is it
		
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			done? And does it fall under these
warnings? And will it deprive a
		
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			person from Jannah? If they do
that? So the question the answer
		
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			to that is in our current
situation, with the culture that
		
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			we have, right? It's not going to
Inshallah, this, the husband, the
		
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			wife taken her husband surname, is
not going to fall into the purview
		
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			of this hadith. Where it would,
is, for example, if this was not
		
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			the culture, so if the culture was
that the woman kept her own
		
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			surname, and the man kept his
surname, obviously, right, but
		
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			then this one individual came up,
and she decided to, because maybe
		
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			she didn't like her family, or
whatever the case was, she decided
		
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			to change her surname to her
husband's surname, giving people
		
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			the impression that she is from,
you know, she, her background is
		
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			in this family, that's who you
know, she's a daughter of this
		
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			family, this particular family or
tribe, then in that case, it would
		
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			be problematic, but in our case,
like, for example, in, in the
		
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			English, you can say, culture, and
also in the Gujarati culture, in
		
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			particular, because most
Pakistanis don't do this. And
		
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			neither do most Bangladeshis do
this. And many Arabs don't do this
		
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			either. It's primarily the
Gujarati culture. And there may be
		
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			other cultures as well, that I
don't know about. But it's
		
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			primarily the Gujarati culture.
It's not even the up culture, as
		
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			far as I know, to do this, right,
which means in other parts of
		
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			India, it's the Gujarati culture
to do this way they did they take
		
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			their husband's surname. Now, I
don't know if they would do this
		
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			in India as well. But they
definitely do that in the West.
		
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			They, as soon as they get married,
they take their surname. Now, it
		
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			seems like you know, they're
following the English trend,
		
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			because I can't see any other
reason for doing it. However, just
		
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			because they're doing that it
doesn't make it you know, it
		
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			doesn't make it haram, they
obviously had some considerations
		
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			for why they did this, they
probably did this to make it kind
		
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			of easier to fill in forms, et
cetera, uniformity of a family
		
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			uniformity of a family name that,
okay, the whole family is like
		
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			this, you know, there's not two
different surnames in the family,
		
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			and there's no confusion about it,
they could have had their
		
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			considerations, whatever those
were. So that's why, because it
		
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			doesn't lead to any kind of
confusion or real Miss
		
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			attribution. That's why it's not
haram. It's not haram at all.
		
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			Having said that, though, what you
have to realize is that if If a
		
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			woman wants to keep her surname,
or if a husband insists to her
		
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			that you know, you keep your
surname, then that that should be
		
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			the way it is. She should not be
forced by the extended family, you
		
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			know, because they'll have no
particular reason for doing it
		
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			except culture. She should not be
forced to do that, because it's
		
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			not Islamic to do that. Right.
I'll just give you my own personal
		
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			opinion is that my wife has her
own surname, right. She that she
		
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			is not she is not Mangueira. She
is has her own surname, and I'm
		
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			very happy with that. Because at
the end of the day, that's the
		
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			family she came from. Right and
knowing that has certain benefits,
		
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			because the Allah subhanaw taala
says in the Quran, we created you
		
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			with your CompTIA Ruben Wakaba
Elita our Rafo in a chroma command
		
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			Allah here at Qualcomm that we
created you in in tribes we
		
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			created
		
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			As different tribes and so on,
that's why those people who keep
		
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			you know, when you ask them where
they're from, or whatever, and
		
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			they say, you know, we're from
God's earth, and we're Muslim
		
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			only, and they don't want to give
any other attribution. And it's a
		
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			bit ridiculous because Allah tells
us himself, that this is the way
		
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			it created you so that you can get
to know each other, you can get to
		
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			understand each other, you can get
to identify each other, identify
		
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			where people are coming from this
inherently in it is kind of, you
		
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			can say, giving us an
understanding that, you know, it's
		
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			a recognition of people's
different cultures, as long as
		
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			they don't contradict anything
religious and Islamic in the
		
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			faith. So it's to recognize that
okay, they come from this
		
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			particular family or whatever they
known, you know, like in the
		
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			Arabs, certain different tribes
are known for different qualities
		
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			or characteristics or weaknesses.
So when you know that you will be
		
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			careful about this. So now,
		
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			if, if this is happening, it's not
necessary to change the surname,
		
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			so nobody should insist on anybody
else, that they should change
		
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			their surname. Right. So that's,
that's the first thing that's very
		
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			important to understand. It's very
important to understand number to
		
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			give you an example.
		
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			For those who are changing it.
		
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			And I mentioned that, it's as long
as there's no confusion, it's
		
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			okay. If somebody insists on doing
it in the towel, Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu. Some, you have
numerous examples, although the
		
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			majority kept their own father's
names and their own tribal
		
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			affiliations even after they got
married. And you know, many of the
		
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			Sahaba and many women in that time
they were, you know, they were
		
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			married to somebody then they got
married to somebody else. It was a
		
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			divorce or death. It was very
easy. It was very casual to do
		
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			this in those days. And plus, they
were, you know, multiple wives
		
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			were possible that time as well.
So now what, in that case, what
		
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			you have is, let's, if you look at
some of the wives of Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wasallam It's
famous about zebra the Allahu Ana,
		
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			Zainab bint geohash. Right, Xena,
Zainab bint geohash. She's She's
		
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			got her own, you know, name Ben
geohash. She doesn't become you
		
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			know, any other name essentially.
Right. Number two, Fatima Alma
		
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			Zou. Mia. She's got her own tribal
affiliation of being among zoomy
		
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			Imran Joanie. She is from the
bundle Joan. She is from the
		
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			Joanie, you know that the Joanie
tribe. You've heard DJ Khaled, she
		
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			is married to Rasulullah
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, she's
		
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			got her own name Khadija been
coilette. However, on the other
		
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			hand, for certain reasons, you
have others who may have been
		
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			ascribed to other than their
father, you know, not necessarily
		
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			the husband, but other than the
Father, for example, the one
		
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			example that I could think of, and
I came up with, and then maybe
		
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			others as well, was, there's a
person called us word. Actually,
		
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			there's a person called Myka dad,
his father, his real biological
		
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			father was MyKad was amor, mica,
Dad ignore hammer. So he was the
		
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			son of Mr. McDonough, the son of
Mr. McDonough, Ebner hammer,
		
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			McDonough ignore hammer, but
because he'd been adopted by
		
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			somebody else whose name was
password, so he had become known
		
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			as MC that YBNL S word. However,
when the order came down in the
		
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			Quran, that you should not call
your adopted sons by you know,
		
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			your own name like the Prophet
salallahu alayhi. Salam had an
		
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			adopted son as such, whose name
was Zaid, right, so he was called
		
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			Zaid, ignore Mohammed because that
was the the trend of the day the
		
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			culture of the day to who if you
adopted somebody, you gave them
		
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			your name, they took your name,
and it came became like this.
		
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			Islam prohibited that that's why
these Hadith came down, right,
		
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			that do not do this. So that's why
zayde is now known as Zaid, ignol,
		
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			Haritha ZDm, no Haritha and not
Zaid, ignore Mohamed, because that
		
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			had to be made very clear. So when
this prohibition was revealed,
		
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			even Mick Dodd, he declared Mick
doll, I am Myka. Dodd, ignore
		
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			hammer, he made it very clear, but
because people had become used to
		
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			quoting MacDonald, so that's why
if you look at many of them,
		
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			aerations, etc, you'll see
metadata S word, but people knew
		
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			that he's not really a sweat, he's
actually this. So it's just like,
		
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			you know, to get a another name
that becomes famous for somebody.
		
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			So that's completely fine. So
likewise, with the majorities,
		
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			etc, and anybody else for that
matter? Who does this? It's not
		
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			haram to do it. But it should not
be insisted on if somebody refuses
		
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			to do so I just wanted to clarify
that because I get a number. I've
		
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			been getting a number of emails
saying, you know, that look,
		
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			they're making it out that it's
haram to do this, because they're
		
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			equating it, to making it as
though they're equating it to as
		
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			if the woman is attributing her
paternal, you know, her paternity
		
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			to somebody else. And that's not
the case. This is not what's
		
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			happening. It's just a cultural
thing that that people are doing.
		
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			There's another issue though,
there's two more issues that I
		
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			want to quickly, you know,
complete cover here. One is that
		
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			there are many, there are many
other cultures in which there's no
		
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			concept of a surname. In fact, a
surnames change from every
		
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			generation, and I find that really
weird. I find that really strange
		
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			because you can't really
		
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			Tell where a person is strong,
what kind of family is strong, you
		
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			can't really make any connections.
And I believe making connections
		
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			is very Islamic to do right to to
understand who's who paternity
		
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			ancestry, the prophets of Allah,
some himself knew his ancestry
		
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			until I had none. He said up to
that we know 400% Sure, you know,
		
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			this, this, you know, the this 20
people or however many it was,
		
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			it's very important, but when, in
some cultures, it's the son will
		
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			take the Father's name as his
surname. So now the father's
		
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			surname will now be lost. Right,
then when this person has a son,
		
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			or daughter, son, really, then he
will take his father's surname,
		
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			you've got people, even within the
Gujarati culture and other
		
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			cultures, that they have these
kind of generic surnames that are
		
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			supposed to be first names, they
don't make, you know, they don't
		
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			give you any kind of distinction
as to, you know, where you're from
		
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			what, in fact, some people abandon
their family surnames, I believe,
		
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			and again, this is just this is
not necessary. Again, this is not
		
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			necessarily but this is just I
think that in keeping in line with
		
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			nisab, and ancestry genealogy, I
think they should be a family
		
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			name, you should be proud of
whichever family you're from
		
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			Subhanallah because that's, that
is Allah subhanaw taala speaks
		
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			about the Cabal and Sherborn
Cabal, as I mentioned.
		
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			So now that to avoid that
confusion, we need to understand
		
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			that you can't just take on some
kind of generic surname, right or
		
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			generic name. It's, you should
attribute yourself to your parents
		
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			as much as possible and to your
family as possible.