Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Imam Abu Hanifa the Theologian
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My dear respected brothers, my dear respected aroma, and my dear
respect is just as a Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
hamdulillah just, I've just arrived and seeing seeing this
crowd, it's really pleasing. It's about time that we got together
under this banner, if not under any other banner, at least under
this banner. And it's about time that we began to respond in, in a
proactive way, in a proactive way to
some of the allegations that have been taking place. Now mashallah,
I think the aroma before me they've already probably covered a
number of different angles, and the aroma that are to speak after
me that will cover a number of the remaining angles. I'm going to go
off on a bit of a tangent, and I'm going to speak about something
that's normally not spoken about. And that is a whole different
dimension of this multifaceted personality. Imam Abu Hanifa Rahim
Allah,
see majority of us, in fact, probably all of us know him as the
great fucky, the great Imam of fic, and jurisprudence. Very few
of us know that he was actually a multicolumn, or a theologian and
an alum or a scholar of all sorts of Deen, a scholar of the
fundamentals of faith before he was a scholar of faith and
jurisprudence. And that's the angle I want to speak about,
because this personality was a person with poverty, he was a
person with, with ability, a God given potential, which, which also
gained acceptance and Kulia. You see, because each one of us has
some probability has some ability. The big question is that is that
poverty going to be attaining Apulia as well? And that's what's
important, because when you look at the Hanafi madhhab, and its
proliferation throughout the countries, where you can safely
say that 50% of the Muslim world even till today for our followers
of the Hanafi school of filk, despite the fact that the Hanafi
school did not originate in Makkah and Madina Munawwara but it
originated in Kufa, it originated in currently Iraq. Kufa, part of
the extended Muslim empire during the time of Oman overthrow the
Allahu Anhu.
That is where this originated. When you when I say as a mother,
obviously the the knowledge was brought by the Sahaba from Makkah
from Makkah and from from Madina, Munawwara to Kufa it had numerous
Sahaba de Gouveia had numerous Sahaba. Now Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah
this was a genius of a personality when he met with him on Malik
Rahim Allah Imam Malik said, when asked about to describe him Abu
Hanifa he said that this is such a man that if he says that this
pillar if he claims that this pillar is made of silver or gold,
for example, then la cama Bihu Jetty he, he will be able to
establish the evidences that will prove such a thing. This man was a
genius a genius according to according to some according to
some aroma. They said that he was so intellectual that even in his
standing way and his process of sitting down, you could just see
that this man was an amazing intellectual, because in the way
he did everything. So first he starts off as a businessman
because that's what his family heritage was. His family heritage
was in business as a trader. And thus he begins as a businessman
and mashallah a successful businessman. It looks like
anything he touched turned to gold, as we say. So he starts off
as a businessman, he's he's not 14 or 15 years old, he's matured, you
know, he's probably in his 20s or so. And one day he goes, pass
hammer, be Sulayman Rahim Allah the great majority of the time,
the great fucky of the time, the jurist of the time, and Hama just
looks at him and he says that, you know, who do you go to? Who do you
go to now in the, in the lingo of the students and, and, and the
people of knowledge, it was like, which teacher Are you studying by?
Because it wasn't like today where you've got, you know, where you
have to call somebody like me from London to come and speak in
Birmingham. That's ridiculous. Right? You had local scholars in
multitudes, great experts in each area. And, you know, basically,
that's, that's the kind of thing that we need for this Muslim
community to really, really thrive. And Allah subhanho wa
Taala give us the Tofik. So he also you're going to
So I'm going to such and such a trader.
And he says he says like, that's not what I'm asking you about. Now
he must have noticed something in Mr. Abu Hanifa. For him to have
asked this question is that that's not what I'm talking about. I'm
saying which college you go to which modulus do you go to for
your knowledge? It is I don't go too much in this for knowledge.
Instead, I think you should because I see a sign of intellect
in you Hammad had insight he had Furiosa. He had, he had great
foresight. And he, he puts him on the right track. And according to
many this was the inspiration for Mr. Abu Hanifa. Undertaking his
studies, he was a successful businessman, he was able to, he
was able to modify his process in his business such that others will
be able to take care of it while he went into studying. Initially,
the first thing he started to study was not fit was not
jurisprudence. He started to study the soul of the dean, he started
to study the fundamentals of the faith. He began to study, the
theology, the Tawheed, and everything related to that, and
his focus was on debating with the sectarians of his time, his focus
was on dealing with the with the heretical groups of the time, the
martyrs Isla de Mirage, the Hava bridge and the Kataria in various
different forms. The proponents of absolute free will the Jamia and
so on and so forth. Now, he lived in Kufa, Kufa was considered to be
a place of turmoil as well later on his earlier on as well because
you have to remember, Hussein Radi Allahu Anhu was deceived by some
of the people of Kufa. So Kufa has history as well. A busser was a
place where many of these sects grew, where many people would give
you an idol ideologies grew. I mean, this place is right now that
I like that as well. I mean, I don't want to say Birmingham is a
place like that, but this place is they just they've got they've just
got this propensity, this, this kind of potential to just harbor
sectarian ideas. You know, I don't know why that case is, you know,
and I think Allah subhanaw taala should protect Birmingham anyway.
And all the other cities you should do, you should protect all
of us. But basically, you had Basra it had it had extreme
Shiites, you know, it had extreme Shiites it had it had it had all
you know, it had a whole spectrum of different ideologies. So Imam
Abu Hanifa himself says that I went into Basra 27 or more times,
and sometimes I stayed there for two months, sometimes for three
months. And sometimes for a year, because I was in debate with
somebody, and he silenced many of these many of these groups. I
mean, this man was just such a genius. I mean, you've all heard
the famous story. You know, you've all heard the famous story that an
atheist, he wanted to debate with him, Abu Hanifa, new Abu Hanifa
said, Okay, meet me at such and such a place at such and such a
time. And the atheist is there with a whole group of people,
spectators, and so on. And there's no Imam Abu Hanifa. Finally, am
Abu Hanifa comes late. And then he tells his long story, right, I'm
sure you've all heard that story. The long story is that I was
coming and there was a stream or a river in between and I couldn't
get over. And then suddenly, I saw this tree fall into the water on
its own. And it made itself into a raft came in front of me, I got in
on gone on top of it. And it took me across and the atheist is just
looking at him with absolute disbelief. And then the Abu Hanifa
said, Well, if you can't even agree with this, and you can't
believe in this such a small miniature action than a micro
action, then how can you believe that its entire dunya the
universe, the heavens and the earth, the sublunary and the super
luminary world can work without a creator without a maker in the
macrocosm of things. When you hear the story, it just doesn't go
according to his flick. It just doesn't. You know, when you
normally hear us or anything, he's a fucky what's he doing? Dealing
with an ace this, but now it's put in perspective, because he was a
scholar of Aqeedah before he was a scholar of fic. And I'm gonna read
a few quotes here. I mean, he himself says that
Imam Abu Hanifa himself says I studied Kaname so deeply that I
reached the status where people would gesture to me that point to
me with their fingers. In all this, like that's the man, you
know, that's the man who can debate anybody. That's the man who
convinces them. That's the man who who beats them in their, you know,
in their in their debates, and he convinces them. We used to sit
close, he said that we used to sit close to the class of her mother
and OB Sulaiman. Now he tells the story here. Right, he tells a
story here of his conversion to Fick. Right? And I think it's very
important for us to understand this, are you thinking, why am I
talking about this? Well, the reason is that when you understand
that this person is a comprehensive personality, very
multifaceted individual such in such that he's a master of any
science that he touches that he touches that how can you think
that he only knew 15? Hadith? I mean, that's just such an absurd
thing to say. Right? Doesn't matter who said it? Because when
he touches Aqeedah, he becomes a master in that. I mean, he could
have started a school, but there was no need for a school at that
time. All he had
to do is go and go and debate with these people, right but he
solidified his foundation in that and then he touches fic and he
becomes an absolute master in that such that until today 1400 years
or so later you've got half of the Muslim world that follow him or
that follow his interpretation. I mean it's not was not ordinary
man. So then after that when he focuses on Hadith you think he's
gonna be left with like 15 Hadith Come on, man, is that a joke?
Right? That's that's what we really need to understand today to
understand this comprehensive personality that Allah subhanaw
taala gifted. Now, there's a number of sorry about this.
There's a there's a number of scholars, for example, more FAAC
he relates in his monarchy from Abu Hafsah Seville, that Abu
Hanifa studied Kalam, he debated with the people until he became
proficient and a master in it. The orangerie says that Abu Hanifa
would lead a class in in in Arpita, he would lead a class I
mean, he was a teacher of Aikido. Before studying under hammer, he
had a class in Aikido. He also relates to how they feel that Abu
Hanifa said, I was possessed of the skill of skill in theological
debate and a period of time passed like this. The people of
argumentation and debate were mostly imbecile for which I
entered Buster more than 20 times. Sometimes I would stay for a year,
I mean, the left everything is going there for the for the
establishment of the truth.
I will stay there for a year, sometimes less than other times
more. I would debate with the various groups the coverage, the
body, the suffering and the groups of the harsher we are. Then he
relates how he turned to jurisprudence. Now there's there's
two stories that's related about him turning to Jerusalem. One is
that a woman came to him one day and she asked him a question she
said that what is the Sunnah way of a husband divorcing his wife?
So he said, You know, I don't know but go to Hamad. Ignore this
dilemma and the fuck the jurist asked him this question when you
get when you get a response, then come and inform me as well. She
came back and she informed him that Hamadan, ob Sulaiman said
that when a man wants to divorce his wife according to the Sunnah,
he should divorce her during her purity period in which he has not
had any, any intimate any sexual * with her. And then
after that, he should let her be like that until three menstruation
cycles pass. And then on the third one after she has had a muscle a
bath out of her third menstruation that she is free to go and marry
somebody else and that's the way of the Sunnah
Imam Abu Hanifa. He says, I've got no need now for I've got no need
now for my for these for these classes and for these debates in
Akita, he went, he took his shoes, and he went and he sat in the
class of Hamedan OB Sulayman. And in a very short time, he says that
whenever Hamedan OB Sulayman would explain anything would explain a
mother would explain a ruling or an issue. I would memorize it, I
would memorize his words. And the next day when he would be asking
what did I say yesterday half the people would make an error, and I
would know exactly what he said. After a short while Hammad said
that this special place he gave him a special place and nobody
should sit here except her mother and obesity man. I'm sorry,
acceptable. Hanifa not amount of love. It's Rahim Allah.
Now, Imam Abu Hanifa. He excelled in such a way that even while his
students while his teacher was alive, Hamid,
he could have started his own classes. Me this man. This man was
of a very high caliber. He could have started his own class but out
of respect for a chef he didn't. When his when when the chef passed
away. There was there was nothing else that people could do except
to push him forward to be the teacher. And that's when he began
to teach. And then he created all these great Imams like Imam Abu
Yusuf and Mr. Mohammed a che Bernie and Imams refer an Imam
Hassan, and a number of others, Joakim Noah Jarrah, and numerous
others were in his gathering, Abdullah Abdul mubarak for the
iluminar er, I mean, you had a massive group of 30 of 30 scholars
that were with him. And working in your genre later said that how can
you say that Mr. Abu Hanifa makes a mistake. If he was to make a
mistake. He's got 30 specialists, people proficient in their
knowledge around him. If he makes a mistake, they'll they'll,
they'll they'll direct him in the right way. Because you had the you
had for the Illuminati off some of the greatest ascetics, you had
unbelievable borrow some of the greatest had the theme. And again,
another ascetic, right Majah hit him. I mean, just just an amazing
man again, and then you had Zophar and you had Muhammad and you had
the mama we use so many you have so many others. The thing about
the Hanafi school
is that it's a community effort. It's a it's a, it's an effort of a
modulus of at least 30 to 40 scholars, and it says that for
sometimes they would they would debate for 33 months on a
particular issue if they could not agree on something. And afterwards
they would, they would just jot it down as okay Abu Hanifa says this
Mr. Wu Yusuf says this, And Imam Muhammad says this, and that's why
you have the differences of opinion in the whereas with the
other math hubs, it's normally Imam Malik's opinions. Right? It's
the Imam Malik was a single man effort, and so was Imam a chef
Mr. Mohammed have no humble laters. Obviously the school
developed and it's not as simplistic as I'm making it, but
the Hanafi school has great flexibility. But anyway, getting
back to our our point under discussion,
Imam Abu Hanifa was a great multicolumn. Now, just as in fact,
the Hanafi school is known for many hypothetical hypothetical
mosyle, which is that they would debate and discuss a number of
issues that had not necessarily occurred yet, but would occur
later on, they could just see the foresight, they could foresee
them, and they discussed it. I mean, Hanafi school is uniquely
known for that in Aqeedah issues as well. He did something similar,
right, because he was such a such a great, you know, he could see
where the trends were going. He could see where the fitna was
going, and he was able to deal with a lot of these things. That's
why some people they say that there's no way that the five books
that are attributed to Abu Hanifa now not you know, when you look at
Aqeedah in Abu Hanifa has five books that are attributed to him,
he's got the Alpha called Akbar he's got another which is
sometimes called fecal Akbar sometimes called fecal absorbed,
right? The reason the this book is called fecal Akbar filk means
understanding science. Right? Learning knowledge, Akbar means
the greatest knowledge, the reason he wrote alphacool Akbar is to
explicate and expound on the greater knowledge which is of
Aqeedah. Right as opposed to a fickle Asgar or the the smaller,
fake or the lower thick, which is that of Messiah and jurisprudence,
which he then embarked on later on. Right? So you've got to figure
out what the other one is called Alfie Kohn upset which means the
extensive knowledge because it's a lot larger than he had. He had an
animal motor and limb and then the fourth book was was his rissalah
was his a pistol to Earth the manual but the and I'll be
referring to that later on. And then the fifth one was, was his
guitar will rasiya now there is some I'd like to mention this
because as soon as you go out here, somebody's gonna say well,
this, these books were not Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah. So I want to
explain that a bit. In terms of these books being in Abu Hanifa
not there's a difference of opinion about each one of them.
Right. Even the orientalist would agree that will make an upset is
definitely mobile Hanafis. And so is his his results with Ronald
Bertie, regarding the famous selfie clockwork, that mug Aneesa
we and Melania cardi has a has a commentary on the one. That's the
one that was translated recently. That one, there is a difference of
opinion. However, without going into too much detail about whether
it is his or not one thing that pretty much everybody agrees with,
right, everybody agrees with is that it definitely reflects his
opinions. what's contained in there is what his opinions were
transmitted to us as being so that that thing is different. And we're
not going to waste time in trying to say it is not it doesn't
matter. Right. The book is a great book. I will be referencing it
later on. What it does, what this book does is that it puts in Abu
Hanifa squarely into the realm of the self in archy. That when you
talk about the self, you're talking about the first five
generations, Imam Abu Hanifa was squarely in the sub he passed away
in 115. Well, before Imam Buhari well before Mr. Muslim, right,
well, before all of these grades were well before him, I don't know
humble. I mean, you know, humble pasta in 241. That's about 91
years after him Abu Hanifa. Right, this man was of the self and he
makes that very clear. In fact, I don't think even those people who
like to slander Mr. bonnafon. Other things, what needs strangely
do is they try to find every single point they can, right in
some places, they'll use him against us. And in some places,
they'll they'll basically slander him. It's kind of very strange the
way people do this, because on the one hand, what they take is they
take a few few few excerpts from his book, right? Where he says,
for example, he says, What are your call in the year the who
could or not whether you call in the year, the who could roto Oh,
never too late. And if he thought of CIFA, right, Mr. Boniva says in
his in his free Calaca bar, that it should not be said that the
Hand of Allah is his Qudra his power, or his NEMA his bounty,
meaning you shouldn't explain it in a metaphorical sense in the
figurative sense. Because if you do that, then that then you are
invalidating the attribute of Allah subhanaw taala.
He was on the message of the salon. There was nobody that that
I mean, that was the general trend at the time, that was the practice
that was the apostle that was the original way of dealing with any
verse in the Quran, for example, where it talks about, wherever you
face you will face the wedge of Allah, the countenance the face of
Allah, right? If I'm allowed to translate to like, there's some
people who are against even translating these words, but the
majority do allow it right as long as you don't do any. We'll. Now
Now what happens and I want to make this clear, because this is
where many people get confused.
Some people will take this a bar will take this text and then
they'll say to you that why do you do that? Well, number one, every
common person on the street the common Muslim today doesn't go
around doing that we'll write that will means interpreting. So let me
let me let me take a step back and explain this issue to you. Allah
subhana wa Tada in the Quran. He
Use the number of words he said that the Hand of Allah right. For
example, it says that Allah has hand is above this. In the in the
Hadith it says that Allah's hand is with a group yet Allah He mal
Gemma in another place, it says that wherever you turn, you will
see you will face the countenance of Allah, you will find the
countenance of Allah, the Witch of Allah. So you got number of these
things. Now what happened is that you've had some literalist. Right,
some would just Sima, right, anthropomorphise, you call them.
What they did was they took this and they said, Well look, you
know, the Allah is going to form like a human form. Right because
he says it. Mi La hawla wala Quwata illa Allah they missed the
main idea, the main eyes laser committee, he che which governs
all of this, which is that there is nothing like Unto Allah. So if
Allah is saying something in the Quran, which gives you an
impression in our mind, because shaytan is always there to try to
misguide us. That gives you an impression that there's something
else like Allah that Allah has a hand like the hand of the people
that hola La Quwata illa biLlah then you must remember that that's
not the case because you must have absolute than z and transcendence
you must think Allah above all of these things.
So you've got you've got these times you had this extreme group
who said that you had another group right who late initially
they were completely just Sima. But after shaker Islamic no Tamia
Rahim Allah and I'm gonna give him that because he was a great Imam
when it came to fixing things. When it comes to Aqeedah. Many
people had many problems with him and people went as far as doing
tech fear. I mean, we're not gonna go that far. Right. But in terms
of in terms of Fick, he was a master in terms of Aqeedah. There
were a number of things that many of the great roadmaps that that he
stumbled on. And one of these is what gives rise to many problems
today. Many of the polemics today are based on based on that. Now,
after his time, you had less overt majeste schema. It was like taken
underground. A study will show that afterwards it became more
hash a Ouija or crypto anthropomorphise, hidden
anthropomorphise. And that is basically people who will insist
now listen to this very carefully, let me explain the method of the
self, the true first generations, the Sahaba, and the terrible
enough to them, the great Imams the way they dealt with, with
words like this terms like this that were mentioned in the Quran,
they would say we leave it to Allah, we believe in it the way
Allah subhanho wa Taala has intended it, but we leave it to
Allah, we're not going to go in there and make that wheel and
interpret it and all the rest of it. Right? We're not going to do
that.
Now, today, you have people who say that the method of the seller
was not that, but it's a different method. They said that the method
today that that was the method of the seller, according to them,
they're projecting this onto the seller, onto the true seller. Is
that you must think you must believe that there's a that this
word Yeah, don't or wedge phone is literal. It's Hachiko that Allah
has a hand. We're just not going to describe it.
Some of them went as far as saying and ignore Josie I will follow
general Georgia great humbly scholar who Alhamdulillah was not
on the hasha Ouija path. He said my skin my hair stands on end when
I hear some of my fellow humble is saying that you can say that Allah
subhanaw taala has a face. He has a hand he runs because all of
these things are mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah. But you can't
say he's got ahead.
I mean, can you imagine telling that to a crowd, what you're
literally doing is that you're making them visualize a form. You
can see he's got a face, you can see he's got this data, you can
see he's got ahead, what kind of a creature you're trying to create
the hola cote LaVilla. Why do you even need to get to this level? I
mean, there's sort of never spoke about it at that level. Right? I
mean, some when you I mean, some of the some of these deviants went
even further, right, but I'm just going to focus on what the focus
is today. The way of the sell off is that you just leave them the
way they are you consign their knowledge to Allah subhanaw taala
what these people say, is that no, if you just consigned the matter
to Allah, and you say, we don't know what it means, it means that
the Quran has terms that are useless, that are redundant,
superfluous, that there's no meaning to them. In order for the
Quran to have meaning you must establish a literal meaning. So
when it says hand, he's got a hand when he's got a face. He's got a
face, but we're gonna say it's not like the face of the human beings.
It's not like the hand. Why do you even go that far? As I said, it
kind of went underground. Instead of being clearly Allah's got a
hand he's got a face. It's like a human form. They went underground
to say they take you right there, and then they stop. It's very
difficult Believe me, because the shaytaan is always there when you
tried to kind of envisage that he's he's got a hand but it's not
like the human being hand. It's just a place not to go
Now the latest callers of the understandable GEMA. Reason number
three this. I'll go into that a bit, very, very soon. But what
they said, what happened is that because of the fitna created by
this, these majeste, Sima the those who gave a lot of form,
people began to question you see once you create a suspicion in the
minds of people curiosity in the minds of people and shaytaan takes
over, right? So they had to give something to the people to, to
hold on to. So they thought very hard. So the whole of the latest
scholars, they agreed among themselves, that out of the many
interpretation, because people are asking for interpretation, and
they won't just sit back and say, Okay, leave it to Allah. Right?
Because there was just so much development in people's thoughts.
And they became a lot more philosophical and they were not so
simple anymore. Imam Ghazali mentioned that the majority the
people who will go fastest into Paradise will be the Bella the
simple people who don't you know, who who don't question much of
these things. You know, I've had people who come and they want to
convert to Islam, you sit them down, and you ask them like, you
know, ask you a question. Some people, they'll go, they've got
numerous questions, there was one brother,
he came to every single one of our Bionz in the masjid, every single
program is more regular to the programs in the masjid than any of
the other Muslims in the area. And it was only after seven months
that he knocked on my door after us or one day he goes, I've got
I'm ready now. Right? But then there's other people I've had I'm
like asking, Do you have any questions because it's not a good
idea to just throw everybody into Islam, they don't know what
they're doing. And then they go back out because that's worse.
Right now. We're living in a from a different America. You don't
want that you want them to have an educated entry into into
somebody's some very simple people who don't care about this kind of
sophisticated ideologies and so on. They've got their hearts are
clean, their hearts are clear, they're pure. They sound you know,
carbon Salim, they just enter into the faith.
Right, so that's what Imams has already mentioned. But, you know,
what you had is you had Islam spread through Persia, right? You
had a lot of philosophy, Greek philosophy, peripatetic
philosophers coming in Neoplatonic ideologies and so on, so forth
coming in, people had questions. So there are animals that we can't
just tell them to leave it now. So what they decided somebody is
great scholars of the Chinese and the matter is what they decided is
that we will try to give an interpretation. And some of this
actually relates to from a blockbuster The Allah who won yo
yo chef who unser Finn, with ona in a sujood feather is to your own
sort of noon, Allah subhanaw taala. So the kalam Allah subhanaw
taala mentions that in the Quran even above the Allah Who does
interpretation that he explains what she does he he gives an
interpretations for the word sock, which literally means Shin, right?
So they weren't completely doing something new. They weren't
innovating something completely new. They made it very clear that
to follow the method of the salon, which was that just leave it to
Allah that is the safest course. That is the safest course. But in
light of today's fitna in the curiosity that people have and in
the deviancy in the direction of deviancy, they're going we are
allowing, we are allowing some amount of that wheel that's
appropriate rather than rather than some kind of strange,
redundant wheel that makes Allah subhanaw taala a creature that,
you know, La hawla wala Quwata illa Allah that anybody could kind
of fabricate in their minds. So they allowed it but they all the
time they stressed now this is I'd like to clarify that most of the
Hanafis are normally from the military, the school. Okay, right.
I don't want you to go out there and make a big fitna about this.
Alright, if you've never heard about it before, I want you to
make it bigger than what are your brother Matthew did yesterday. I
don't want you to do that. Because it doesn't matter. As long as
you've got the correct are key that that's what's important. All
right. So I don't want to make this another another point. But I
know that there's going to be people who will confuse you all
the ash it is a deviant. In fact, when you've got these the title on
the internet, Marshall has proliferated with with these
dictionaries and encyclopedias of the deviant groups. And one of
them is always a shady is in the military these and the handoff is
on the shelf is in a Malik is on the Hamleys, right? And it's just
like these are doll mobile. And these are this that another.
That's what I'm trying to explain this. Normally, when you look at
the military, what happened is that when the group like the
martyrs, Allah Now this was another group, right? This was
another group, they had an idea that what you had to do was, if
the human being thought that something was good, then Allah has
to also think that thing is good. And if the if the human being some
thinks that something is bad, then Allah has to also consider that
thing to be bad. It's like the intellect of the human being is
dictating on Allah, what is good and what is bad, is a
rationalists. Right. And then what they tried to do is they try to
amalgamate right combine Islam and Greek philosophy, wherever they
would be, wherever it would be irreconcilable. They would they
would take the philosophical point of view, in many cases. That's why
they said that you won't see Allah in the hereafter. That's
impossible. It goes against the Oneness of Allah that you could
see him so they denied what's clearly mentioned.
In the Sunnah in the Hadith that you will see him like you see the
moon on the 14th tonight, right? So they denied that and they had a
number of other opinions. One another opinion they had was that
if a if a movement a believer commits a major sin, then he's not
a believer anymore. So what is he? Oh, he's not even a Kaffir. He's
in between somewhere. It's called Manzella banal. Manziel attained
the intermediate status between the two. Right? Then you had
another group that went a step further, they said, and these were
the tech theories. In a sense, they hated Muslims that didn't
apply that didn't.
That didn't adhere to them and their way of understanding then
they did go far, right.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning all of these things, you might be
wondering, why do I bring up this history? The reason is that there
are remnants of all of these groups today, not as an organized
group. But they will be individuals. For example, as a
professor in University of UCLA, University of California, Los
Angeles, he considers himself a martyr. zeolites there's another
British author who considers himself a mortality, right? You've
got people who go around doing takfeer of everybody if you if you
commit a major sin, it's like, you know, you're you're not a Muslim
anymore, your your watchable, totl, or your permissible to kill,
in fact, you know, it's obligate is obligatory to kill you. So
you've got the takfiri groups as well. I'm not saying all of the
people who go around doing Techfit are the same. There's many shades
in them. Right.
So you had this Hawaii marriage, what they said was that any
Muslim, any believer who commits a major sin, right for decades,
steals, then he becomes they took him right to go further. They
said, Forget this between between status this hybrid, right? He is
right. He's a Kafir. Right? Now, in response to that you had all
these strange ideas coming up in response to that you had the
merger. These were a group they said, What's holistic fear going
on? What's this taking everybody out of the faith? They went to
another direction. They said that
it doesn't matter what sin you commit as long as you're believer
brother, you're fine. Right? And you hear this a lot more. And
that's what I think the bigger fitna today is of secular Islam,
progressive Islam, modernist Islam, because what they're going
to do is at least others are saying go back to the Sunnah
destroy everything in between. Forget what the Imams said, Forget
what all these great immunomodulators Kalani and others
said, go back to the Hadith brother, the Sunnah brother,
right. But you know that there's some village that means that at
least they're not going out of the faith. There's others who just
like saying, No, don't take anything. As long as you're a
Muslim. As long as you consider yourself a Muslim. That is
sufficient. You can sin as much as you want. It won't affect your
iman. Good deeds won't make you any better. It's just a good thing
in terms of a social sense. But in terms of your deen law, you do
rule ly do rule ZombiU I adore you know, your your sins will not will
not harm you. You had another group who, when they saw the
Howard bridge,
making people come condemning them to disbelief. They said that's
wrong. I mean, the position of the Illuminati Jamar, which everybody
should agree with, is that anybody who is a believer who's accepted
the faith, then it doesn't matter how many sins he has done. If he
seeks forgiveness, Allah will forgive him. sha Allah, right,
we've got the hope in Allah because Allah is forgiving. If he
does not seek forgiveness and he dies as a sinner. He is a
believer, but he's a sinner, and he is what the famous term is
tattle. mushiya is under the will of Allah. Allah says in the Quran,
in Allaha la El Faro, a new Shaka by way of Pharaoh Medina directly
Manisha, Allah does will not forgive, that should be made with
him, you important with him that you ascribe partners to Him, but
He will forgive every other sin. And if you say that that means in
the world and that means in the hereafter Well, of course in the
hereafter because if you've done shake in this world, then you've
become a believer, you're not a mushrik anymore. So there's no
shift to deal with in the hereafter. So it has to refer to
people who die as a mushrik and those who die as sinners, but
meaning that hallucinate Well, Gemma we believe that anybody who
dies a sinner, but a believer, Allah subhanho wa Taala will deal
with them, according to he which the way he wishes and there's many
Hadees that, that explain that.
If he wills, He can punish him, and it will be completely out of
his justice to do that. If he doesn't want to punish him and he
likes a single act that he did, he will forgive every single sin of
his and send him into paradise. It's entirely up to Allah. You
know what the martyrs Allah said? They said that Allah has to give
you reward as much as is as much as you did only he can't give you
a bonus. He can't give you extra he can't just forgive you. He has
to punish you for your sin. They like obligate these conditions and
they put Allah in all of these conditions. Right? deviant group,
however, is they'll just take you completely out of Islam. Right now
the merger what
What the deviant monitor the deviant what you call them the
postpone as the anti normies? I mean, the Christians have dealt
with it from Paul Paul is considered antinomian. I mean,
these are people. I mean, you heard that you heard the
Christians all the time Jesus died for you on the cross, you bus up
Maseko, you know, you can do what you like, as long as you know, you
kind of just go and sing on Sunday and have a bit of wine and
bread, right? You'll find it creates this, it creates this
laxity, it creates this antinomian tendency, which is that it's okay.
It doesn't matter. As long as you got faith, you're fine. You hear
so many people today, especially people who consider themselves
intellectual, intellectual Muslims, right, that sense of the
term. They say, as long as you got a good heart. As long as you got a
good heart, it doesn't matter what you do. It's like do whatever you
want in your bedroom. It's okay. Right La hawla wala Quwata illa
biLlah. I believe that this is a greater threat. Because as more
people go into academics, in our in this country as more of our
Muslims, they, they have to be really careful, because academics,
which is we're going to have to go into to make any difference in
this country. But the people who will go into it, have to be very
careful, because when you become a bit overawed by the various
philosophies that you will learn and the various different
ideologies, you have to be very firmly grounded in your Kedah and
your understanding, otherwise, you may adopt something else and you
will come back and relook at Islam. And you will then adjust it
modified to suit your to suit to suit what you think is correct.
The Prophet sallallahu Lisanna mentioned that a time will come
when a person will have some food.
Have a nice full stomach and he will say that let's talk on the
base of the Quran. Forget the Sunnah. I'm paraphrasing. The
aroma mentioned that the reason he mentioned the food there is
because it will normally be people who will be well off.
I'm not saying is that to be well off, the professor loathsome said,
That's so so virtuous is halal wealth in the hands of a pious
person. The problem is that when people are relaxed, they don't
have to struggle where Allah comes out of the picture then, because
then they become dependent on their wealth. And then they start
thinking of things rationally, because that's what the shaytaan
once and that's a major fitna, that's a greater fitna, believe
me, that's going to be a greater fifth 19 years, because America is
already there. We're not there yet, because of Hamdulillah, we
have stronger connection with our masajid. But you will see that
people will move out as the communities grow the children
combine the seminary people, it's expensive, people will go out to
other areas, you won't be so close to the masjid anymore, you won't
be so close to your other ma anymore. And then you start
thinking for yourself. Because you're an intellectual. Now you're
an academic, right? You know, you've got a degree.
I'm not saying it's bad, we have to do that. But you have to be
strongly in your tradition, you have to be strongly with your LMR.
Otherwise, in 10 years, you will see the knife scene in America
that kind of questions. You know, in America, you couldn't even
start off with saying that, you know, for example, if somebody
said is music, what's the status of music in Islam, you couldn't
say music is haram. They just walk away they think this guy does know
what he's talking about. You would have to start by first explaining
the negatives of music, modern research and how it shows the
music is harmful. Then after you've kind of explained it from a
scientific point of view, right and open the door to their heart
or mind. Right then you can say anymore, Malik Malik Rahim Allah
call it the bottle. And by the way, it's also haram in Islam.
Right, seriously, this is a major problem that we have, this is a
bigger problem that we have. And we have to really study these
personalities greatly. So anyway, going back to him Abu Hanifa we
had this this merger. Some people call him Abu Hanifa a merger. Now
again, this is one of those things where they just try to find
anything and everything. Okay? 15 Hadith, they don't look at
irrationally this great man, great scholar of soul, great scholar of
fit, you know, 15 Hadith. I mean, was he tricking the whole world is
50% of the world. Dumb, deceived, but I guess that's what they think
anyway. Right? You're talking about 14 million or more people in
in China, the Hanafis. And they've been following this. You had the
great scholars, I mean, great intellectual people like the
Howey. Right, who became a Hanafy because they saw in it, what they
thought was the closest to the Quran and the Sunnah. So now you
had this monitor. There was a You see, when all this coverage
problem happened. They were the hallucinogen Allah came Abu
Hanifa. He made it very clear, this is what he said. He says,
What are not cool, we don't say the annulment law, the guru who
has Donald we don't say that. If men commit sins that he won't be
harmful to him. Meaning we consider sins to be harmful to a
believer. What are not cool. And no hula. Yet Hold on. Now, we're
not going to say that he's never going to enter the Hellfire
because that's what the module said. That as long as you're a
believer, you're your paradise. You're saved.
Well and cool and no, you have to fear but we all
So don't believe that they will be forever in the Hellfire as the
whole rich set. Right? And then he said, What in kind of a second,
but at the origin, minute, dunya moment and as long as he came out
of the dunya as a believer with some faith, even though he was a
fantastic transgressor, and he was a he was unrighteous.
Well, I know cool. In the Hassanal in the Hassanal Bula. We don't say
that all of our good deeds are certainly accepted by Allah, it's
up to Allah. Because when we do our good deeds, we ask them, Allah
to accept them. It's not like the martyrs the law would like, you do
a good deed, he has to accept him, he has to reward you, according to
a meter. You know?
What's the name of fura? Or that our
all that our bad deeds are definitely forgiven. We don't say
that. It's up to Allah got Oh, little merger, as the merger has
said he makes it very clear what the Moto G has said. And he
distances himself from this. How can you Abu Hanifa be a moto?
I'll tell you, he was a merger, but not this merger. And this is
where the confusion is. But people can't even investigate that. They
take it from somewhere. And they just attribute it because it
sounds bad. Like when you're arguing with somebody, this is
what why arguments and quarrels are so bad. Professor Lawson said
that. If you leave quarreling, while you're on the wrong, Allah
subhanaw taala will give you a place on the outskirts of
paradise. And if you leave arguing with somebody, even if you're on
the right, you will get a place in the middle of paradise or in the
highest places of paradise. Because quarreling is so bad even
when you're in solid. And the guys next you're going to be thinking
of
points about him, the way he prays or whatever, right. That's what
argument argumentation doesn't disputation. That's why it's, it's
just so bad in the deen. Right, those kinds of raw polemics. So
now, what happened is that the they were the Jamar, those who are
clear, because the Abu Hanifa made it very clear, he said that, what
are these coverage talking about? actions are not part of faith in
the sense that if you don't do good deeds, that you're a golfer,
as long as you believe in your heart and you confess with your
tongue, you are a believer. Yes, if you do good actions, your
quality of faith is very, very good. Right? And you got a lot of
good deeds. The how are they just saying no, the person goes out of
email. It's like the person doesn't have any man in his heart.
So you might when he first said that, you know, Iman, is
conviction in the heart and confession with the tongue. So
what the Hermitage label in Abu Hanifa as a merger is that you're
a merger you're they said you are a postpone, because you are saying
that leave the decision to Allah because that's what we say leave
the decision to Allah. So you're on board. Yeah. Because what Moto
G means people who put judgment behind them, don't be judgmental,
but it's not the extreme. And so that's why the other might have
separated the merger into two groups. The merger of the Aluna
Well, Jamar, which any great artist of any any any person of
the Elsinore Gemma would be a merger in that sense, because they
won't insist that your sins will take you to hellfire.
But and then the second group or the merger of the innovators, the
reprehensible innovators, right, which Mr. Boniva speaks out about.
So what happens is that orientalist, I mean, they're the
ones who are still talking about the mobile phone, as a mortgagee
and so on because they like to discuss everything. So these
people find themselves before the merger. And in their concept, the
merger is one of the bad mergers. So that's where the problem comes
from. So when next time you hear that inshallah you will be able
to, you'll be able to explain that merger just means to postpone
because the hallucinogenic as you also say that if you do a sin,
it's under the will of Allah. That's what maggio means,
according to the understandable jemar, the sectarian merger,
that's a whole different story.
Now, the other thing I want to explain is that normally, it's the
Usher ideas who are condemned and the merger seemed I'm sorry that
the Matri these they kind of get out scot free. Let me explain a
bit of history in the time of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam
who who Allah who had certainly floss was sufficient.
People were just so pure the prophets Allah some being the fool
who Allah who had was more than enough Aki, that that was the
Akita you started, you didn't have one of these other questions?
Where is Allah? You know, this constant questioning of where is
Allah and brother, you know, do you understand the three different
types of Tawheed you believe in him? You know, we should believe
in all of the different types of mojito who here who will be a
smell Siefert but to have every person on the street, know these
things and be able to like repeat them, you know, at a bidding, it's
like in France, you know, the if you if you're not a French person,
you have to pull your identity cards out. It's like, brother, you
know, subhanAllah I was sitting in the role of the Prophet salallahu
Alaihe Salam, and it was one of those guys that stand outside
protecting the grave. Right, mobile rock, and this this was a
nicer person. He had a smile on his face, right? And he would tell
you nicely, and he'd actually have people look inside to say
But there's nothing there. It was his way of telling them you don't
need to do anything. Right? I just sat there and then eventually he
started speaking to me. And what happened is
within Wallahi within about a minute or something,
if I remember correctly, he he said brother
in Allah, where is Allah? So I said, the mister where eyelash
Carlos subhanaw taala Mr. Ware Allah, Allah subhanho wa Taala is
on his arch Allah subhanho wa Taala is mystery his his is
established on his throne is the well on the arch. It was okay.
Right and then I said well Allah subhanaw taala also says in Allah
in the law amount of CBD and Allah is with the patient people is with
the patient people who are accountable in a common herbal
where it is closer to you than your jugular vein. So it goes on
and the Salafi Are you a Salafi SDDS hamdulillah right. So
hamdulillah and then I believe that him on this point, we still
are because I think he had some doubts. I think he had some doubt.
So he said, Mister when she animals the Quran, Allah, Allah
Hello, la cote La Villa, because what they do is they take this
word sdwa Allah, which means clearly just establishment on the
throne, that's the closest translation we can get to even
that's not a perfect translation, Allah made sdwa on the arch,
whatever that means. Allah subhanaw taala knows best.
But they say is the word we have to make that as istikhara which
means to find a place to find settle, right? That connotes
physical sitting. Right? And that's what some of them said that
Allah is touching the arch, not from the above but from below. And
it's a whole lower quality LaVilla Can you imagine that? As Abu
Hanifa says earlier the Allah and said that Allah was Allah was
existence when there was no Arash, Allah subhanho wa Taala created
the Arsh Allah is the creator of Darcy Hanifa makes it clear in his
Kitab rasiya.
So the person said, Mr. Kiran, Allah, I immediately I said to
him, that you're doing that we'll because you're not leaving it the
way Allah subhanaw taala stated, but you're saying that it still
has to mean is the Quran which means resting?
I got him on that. I don't think he ever came across that response.
Right. And that, and I want to just mention the if anybody asks
you, where is Allah, right in Abu Hanifa makes it very clear. Well,
number one, the first answer is that
the question does not apply to Allah. Because Aina means fie AIIM
icon, in which place is he? Allah is out of place. Allah is beyond
place, he created place and time so he's not in time or place
number one, number two, answer and the answer to this is from the
Quran. Allah subhanho wa Taala ma sabihin. Allah subhanho wa Taala
is with the people who have Taqwa, Allah subhanho wa Taala is muster
when Allah and you just refrain from going beyond that.
So clearly, I mean, just to just to finish off, now you understand
this personality, who was multifaceted in the sense that
he's not just a great 40 which he became most prominent as, but he
was also a great scholar of Aqeedah. But according to the
other story, he said that I noticed that it was just getting
me into too many arguments. I was wasting a lot of time in that and
I found out that it wasn't a worthy cause to go into the
argumentative side of it. So I left it and I went into the study
of fifth. Now how can you call somebody like that? To be ignorant
of Hadith any subject he touched, he became a master in that. Allah
subhanho wa Taala give us the Tofik Allah subhanaw taala give us
the understanding of this great Imam and I'm sure we'll be
enlightened a lot more by the shoe after she you have to me about the
mama honey position.