Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – How Does a Loving God Send Calamities and Suffering (Theodicy)

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speaker discusses the issue of Jesus's desire to love and manifest his beauty as a driver of evil, which can cause people to die and lose their lives. The speaker suggests that Jesus's desire to love and manifest his beauty is a driver of evil, and that non-M-th anti-maskers find it difficult to understand people when he loves them. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of having a strong point of view and not just trying to convince others.

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			Now this is quite a complex
question to answer. If there is
		
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			justice, if there is a loving God,
then how is it that we have so
		
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			called injustice and difficulties
and calamities in the world? I
		
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			think the fundamental question
		
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			is where the problem lies.
		
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			Yes, he is a loving God.
		
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			He's a loving, compassionate,
merciful God. But who said that
		
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			that was all that he was?
		
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			Right? So the issue here is that
you see, anytime somebody asks you
		
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			a question.
		
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			They're setting parameters for you
to answer within the binding you.
		
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			And sometimes that's where the
problem lies. The logic is false
		
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			from the beginning, the initial
premise is wrong.
		
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			So what we have to do is,
		
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			Allah has more than 99 names, just
as He is the merciful loving one.
		
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			He is also the Avenger. He's also
the Punisher is also the one who
		
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			gives harm, and so on and so
forth. So once you've understood
		
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			the comprehensiveness of Allah and
the God and His being, and how he
		
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			wants to do things, sometimes he's
gonna use his Jellal sometimes
		
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			he's gonna use his Jamal,
sometimes he's gonna manifest His
		
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			beauty sometimes gonna manifest
His might, sometimes it's gonna
		
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			manifest is His Majesty. So
		
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			then there's no question about it.
Now, why these things happen.
		
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			Obviously, they happen for a
reason. Sometimes they happen
		
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			because Allah subhanaw taala wants
to by people, like let's take an
		
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			example, a tsunami, people die in
the many people dying. For a
		
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			person from a faith that only
believes God is merciful, nothing
		
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			else is going to shake their
faith, because they can't see
		
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			mercy that
		
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			the way we look at it, is that
there's an element of Mercy here,
		
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			there could be an element of
punishment as well. There's people
		
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			living in that area who pour
		
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			sick of life is better for them to
be martyred in a in a tsunami
		
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			and be relieved of that problem.
		
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			And be honored as a martyr. But
there's other people there who are
		
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			fit to be punished. So they've
been punished.
		
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			And there's others who Allah
subhanaw taala wants to raise
		
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			their status. So he's taken their
home away. When Allah loves
		
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			somebody, non Muslims find it very
difficult to understand this. And
		
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			you know, I only discovered that
about two months ago.
		
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			I was in Switzerland, and a new
Muslim, who'd become a sim about
		
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			four or five years ago. Right?
		
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			He told me, and so while you can
learn a lot from him, because many
		
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			of us who are born as Muslims, we
take things for granted.
		
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			Right? We take things for granted
in understanding stuff and
		
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			everything. He says, Before I knew
this, I used to think that every
		
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			difficulty everybody's gonna have
setbacks and difficulties in their
		
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			life. Nobody's life is always 100%
Perfect. There's always going to
		
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			be some difficulty or the other.
		
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			Now, if you think if you start
becoming a believer in God, and
		
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			then you get difficulties and you
don't know that Allah tests people
		
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			that way, and that actually, he
wants you to do subpar. You start
		
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			you start thinking that God hates
you. That's why you're having
		
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			calamities. He said, I used to
think that every calamity
		
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			difficulty challenge I used to
come I used to think God hates me
		
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			so I used to wonder what I'm doing
wrong.
		
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			When I then discovered that
		
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			I'm BIA I should do home Bella and
the Gambia, given the most test
		
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			and then those who are closest to
them and when Allah loves somebody
		
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			epistola who
		
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			Allah subhanaw taala tested when
he loves them,
		
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			to to really purify them.
Sometimes the persons at Mal and
		
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			his actions or her actions are not
high enough, puts them through
		
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			some difficulty, so that they have
patience and they shoot up without
		
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			having to do anything. Why did the
Prophet salallahu Salam have pangs
		
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			of pain before he passed away? And
when faulty malady Allah Juana
		
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			said we're carrabba Abba. Oh, the
pain of my father he says, la
		
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			curbar Allah be converted the
herbalism after today there will
		
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			be no pain on your father. So why
would you have to go with that? We
		
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			generally hear that sinners are
given a painful death. He's
		
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			actually death was painless. But
this was before that. This was
		
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			leading up to that time, the end
moments not the actual soul
		
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			extraction. That was easy. All
believers. for them. It's easy,
		
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			the good believers. But this is
all final pushing, final ways to
		
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			elevate his status and punishment.
That's why he says all ACC gamma
		
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			you aku ethnonym income
		
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			I get the pain of fever etc, like
to have you do
		
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			that's how much is given to me but
then my rewards are double as
		
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			well.
		
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			So I was once in an interfaith
program, and we then broke up for,
		
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			into small groups
		
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			to discuss with each other.
		
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			So I was sitting there with I
think there was an older woman and
		
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			I can't remember though to other
people, and everybody was going to
		
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			contribute something from their
religion. So I remember the Hadith
		
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			that a believer his status is
quite amazing. The browser wasn't
		
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			an adjuvant the men for in Amara
who kulula who hide all of his
		
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			situation, all of his states,
they're all really good. Because
		
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			if he's afflicted, and he makes
sober, that's good for him. And if
		
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			he is rich, if there's bounties
coming, whenever there's
		
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			prosperity, and he gives thanks,
then that's good for him. And life
		
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			is only these two situations are
in between. And that woman just
		
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			reveled at this until the end, she
was like, that's such a beautiful
		
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			statement. Because it tells you
how to deal with life, the way
		
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			life is sober and sugar. So there
is going to be difficulty in this
		
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			world and Allah wants to see how
we will deal with it. He is not
		
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			promised that he was going to be
easy for you. That's Jana. This is
		
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			difficulty and there's different
reasons why Allah provides that
		
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			difficulty.
		
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			So why is the difficulty despite
the fact that the gods are
		
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			merciful Lord, because he's not
just merciful. He also has other
		
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			attributes that he manifest in the
world, and purely from that
		
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			principle position, let's say the
other thing is that he is the
		
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			owner of everything, he can do
what he wants, just because we've
		
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			got a bit of intelligence. It's
like, you know, this ball of woods
		
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			is fine, I can throw it or I can
drop it down. I can do whatever I
		
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			want with it. It's mine. It's not
mine, but if it was mine, right.
		
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			We are all Allah's in gnarly law.
He were in LA he Raji Arun, he can
		
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			do what he wants with us. Now
we're trying to judge him. We're
		
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			trying to provide some way of
justice that he needs to abide by.
		
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			It's, it's very foolish, but if
you want to understand this from
		
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			this purely rational, humanistic
way that is possible. And if you
		
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			don't, then you will never
understand it, but why, but why
		
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			you will never understand it's
just one of those issues. But this
		
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			is I'm quite satisfied with this.
		
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			And we can't, you know, we can't
convince everybody. That's that
		
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			I'm very satisfied with