Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – How Does a Loving God Send Calamities and Suffering (Theodicy)

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speaker discusses the issue of Jesus's desire to love and manifest his beauty as a driver of evil, which can cause people to die and lose their lives. The speaker suggests that Jesus's desire to love and manifest his beauty is a driver of evil, and that non-M-th anti-maskers find it difficult to understand people when he loves them. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of having a strong point of view and not just trying to convince others.
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Now this is quite a complex question to answer. If there is

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justice, if there is a loving God, then how is it that we have so

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called injustice and difficulties and calamities in the world? I

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think the fundamental question

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is where the problem lies.

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Yes, he is a loving God.

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He's a loving, compassionate, merciful God. But who said that

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that was all that he was?

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Right? So the issue here is that you see, anytime somebody asks you

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a question.

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They're setting parameters for you to answer within the binding you.

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And sometimes that's where the problem lies. The logic is false

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from the beginning, the initial premise is wrong.

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So what we have to do is,

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Allah has more than 99 names, just as He is the merciful loving one.

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He is also the Avenger. He's also the Punisher is also the one who

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gives harm, and so on and so forth. So once you've understood

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the comprehensiveness of Allah and the God and His being, and how he

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wants to do things, sometimes he's gonna use his Jellal sometimes

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he's gonna use his Jamal, sometimes he's gonna manifest His

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beauty sometimes gonna manifest His might, sometimes it's gonna

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manifest is His Majesty. So

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then there's no question about it. Now, why these things happen.

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Obviously, they happen for a reason. Sometimes they happen

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because Allah subhanaw taala wants to by people, like let's take an

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example, a tsunami, people die in the many people dying. For a

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person from a faith that only believes God is merciful, nothing

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else is going to shake their faith, because they can't see

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mercy that

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the way we look at it, is that there's an element of Mercy here,

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there could be an element of punishment as well. There's people

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living in that area who pour

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sick of life is better for them to be martyred in a in a tsunami

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and be relieved of that problem.

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And be honored as a martyr. But there's other people there who are

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fit to be punished. So they've been punished.

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And there's others who Allah subhanaw taala wants to raise

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their status. So he's taken their home away. When Allah loves

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somebody, non Muslims find it very difficult to understand this. And

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you know, I only discovered that about two months ago.

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I was in Switzerland, and a new Muslim, who'd become a sim about

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four or five years ago. Right?

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He told me, and so while you can learn a lot from him, because many

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of us who are born as Muslims, we take things for granted.

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Right? We take things for granted in understanding stuff and

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everything. He says, Before I knew this, I used to think that every

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difficulty everybody's gonna have setbacks and difficulties in their

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life. Nobody's life is always 100% Perfect. There's always going to

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be some difficulty or the other.

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Now, if you think if you start becoming a believer in God, and

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then you get difficulties and you don't know that Allah tests people

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that way, and that actually, he wants you to do subpar. You start

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you start thinking that God hates you. That's why you're having

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calamities. He said, I used to think that every calamity

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difficulty challenge I used to come I used to think God hates me

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so I used to wonder what I'm doing wrong.

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When I then discovered that

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I'm BIA I should do home Bella and the Gambia, given the most test

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and then those who are closest to them and when Allah loves somebody

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epistola who

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Allah subhanaw taala tested when he loves them,

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to to really purify them. Sometimes the persons at Mal and

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his actions or her actions are not high enough, puts them through

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some difficulty, so that they have patience and they shoot up without

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having to do anything. Why did the Prophet salallahu Salam have pangs

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of pain before he passed away? And when faulty malady Allah Juana

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said we're carrabba Abba. Oh, the pain of my father he says, la

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curbar Allah be converted the herbalism after today there will

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be no pain on your father. So why would you have to go with that? We

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generally hear that sinners are given a painful death. He's

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actually death was painless. But this was before that. This was

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leading up to that time, the end moments not the actual soul

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extraction. That was easy. All believers. for them. It's easy,

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the good believers. But this is all final pushing, final ways to

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elevate his status and punishment. That's why he says all ACC gamma

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you aku ethnonym income

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I get the pain of fever etc, like to have you do

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that's how much is given to me but then my rewards are double as

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well.

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So I was once in an interfaith program, and we then broke up for,

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into small groups

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to discuss with each other.

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So I was sitting there with I think there was an older woman and

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I can't remember though to other people, and everybody was going to

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contribute something from their religion. So I remember the Hadith

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that a believer his status is quite amazing. The browser wasn't

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an adjuvant the men for in Amara who kulula who hide all of his

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situation, all of his states, they're all really good. Because

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if he's afflicted, and he makes sober, that's good for him. And if

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he is rich, if there's bounties coming, whenever there's

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prosperity, and he gives thanks, then that's good for him. And life

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is only these two situations are in between. And that woman just

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reveled at this until the end, she was like, that's such a beautiful

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statement. Because it tells you how to deal with life, the way

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life is sober and sugar. So there is going to be difficulty in this

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world and Allah wants to see how we will deal with it. He is not

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promised that he was going to be easy for you. That's Jana. This is

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difficulty and there's different reasons why Allah provides that

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difficulty.

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So why is the difficulty despite the fact that the gods are

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merciful Lord, because he's not just merciful. He also has other

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attributes that he manifest in the world, and purely from that

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principle position, let's say the other thing is that he is the

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owner of everything, he can do what he wants, just because we've

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got a bit of intelligence. It's like, you know, this ball of woods

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is fine, I can throw it or I can drop it down. I can do whatever I

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want with it. It's mine. It's not mine, but if it was mine, right.

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We are all Allah's in gnarly law. He were in LA he Raji Arun, he can

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do what he wants with us. Now we're trying to judge him. We're

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trying to provide some way of justice that he needs to abide by.

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It's, it's very foolish, but if you want to understand this from

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this purely rational, humanistic way that is possible. And if you

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don't, then you will never understand it, but why, but why

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you will never understand it's just one of those issues. But this

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is I'm quite satisfied with this.

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And we can't, you know, we can't convince everybody. That's that

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I'm very satisfied with

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