Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Fabricating a Hadith or Lying about the Prophet (S) (Hadith Commentary from Zad alTalibin)

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the importance of identifying narratives in various narratives, including the Hanahahah and the Newahahah, as it is centered around a deity or person. They stress the need to verify sources and be careful with the use of negative narratives. The speakers also touch on the concept of " reliable" and the difference between these concepts, emphasizing caution in the use of these narratives.

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			The next Hadith again is a very
popular narration that's mentioned
		
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			it's one of those which are
considered to be motivated.
		
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			Continuously narrated from us all
allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
		
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			over the generations through
numerous
		
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			chains, numerous Sahaba men kadaga
Allah Yamata ammidon Forget about
		
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			what Nakada who Mina now, whoever
intentionally lies about me should
		
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			take his seat in hellfire
		
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			Buhari and Muslim, so they should
know for themselves that they've
		
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			done such a bad deed they should
just be prepared to go to the
		
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			hellfire.
		
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			And the reason for that is very
clear. Our Deen revolves around
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu It was
simple. If it wasn't for him, we
		
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			would not be guided because the
Quran that came to him, it's the
		
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			words of Allah subhanaw taala but
it was revealed to the Prophet
		
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			salallahu alayhi wa sallam and all
the explanation that he has
		
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			provided an older has provided an
all the other Quran, the Hadith,
		
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			the Sunnah, that he has
demonstrated, and one of the
		
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			explanations that he has provided
the guidance that he has given,
		
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			what are those from us, all of us
have Allahu alayhi wa sallam. So
		
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			if anybody is then saying that oh
Rasulullah sallallahu sallam said
		
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			this, or there's a narration in
which it says this from Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu they're making
something up for whether it's for
		
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			pious gain or for any reason a
fabrication is a fabrication. The
		
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			Rasul Allah says, he should just
consider that he's got to sit in
		
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			the Hellfire
		
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			because it is when a person
attributes falsely to Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wasallam even if
he thinks is for a pious end, it's
		
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			just you do not do that. The
reason is that everything was sort
		
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			of lost that allows him said as
Allah says in the Quran, in her
		
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			Illa wagon you have it's a way
that Allah subhanho wa Taala it's
		
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			a way that is being revealed to
the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa
		
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			sallam, Ma Yun dico Anil Hawa, he
does not speak just out of his
		
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			whims and desires. Everything he
says when it's related to the deen
		
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			is from Allah subhana wa Tada. So
if we're saying that the province
		
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			of Allah Himself said this, or
this, about this, or that, then we
		
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			are essentially saying that Allah
said this, and this is what Allah
		
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			wants. So it is both an aggression
and a violation against the rights
		
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			of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi
wasallam, and also the rights of
		
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			Allah subhanaw taala. Now you can
imagine that if a person is
		
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			committing a falsehood against or
attributing falsehood to Allah
		
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			subhanaw taala, that he did this
or he said this, whereas he
		
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			didn't, you can imagine the sin
for that. And one of the main
		
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			reasons for this is
		
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			when a person lies, this is not a
personal deed that they're doing.
		
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			It isn't the harms of it are not
restricted to themselves, because
		
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			clearly they are lying to others.
What this is not referring and
		
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			this would be far fetched, for it
to be taken to mean that a person
		
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			is lying to himself that oh
Rasulullah sallallahu sallam said
		
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			this to himself, that will be a
different story. That's where the
		
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			shebang overcomes a person a
person enters into doing better
		
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			and innovations, reprehensible
innovations, this is clearly
		
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			speaking about conveying to others
something that Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu did not say, making up
something like that, that is what
		
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			that does, then is you are then
spreading falsehoods, you are
		
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			giving a distorted understanding
of the D you are providing
		
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			something which you know, that is
totally wrong.
		
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			Now, if somebody mistakenly does
this is her narration from
		
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			someone, and he thought the person
was reliable, and he passed it on,
		
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			then clearly there, there wouldn't
be that would be an excuse. But a
		
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			person needs to be careful needs
to be very careful before relating
		
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			narrations, especially those ones.
Having said that, every time you
		
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			get a text message, or an email
one of those forwarded text
		
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			messages or emails that say, Oh,
the price of aluminum said this,
		
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			and there's no reference or proper
referencing for it. Ask the
		
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			person, can you please verify the
reference before you send this
		
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			out? Because these things become
viral? Right? Some people have
		
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			this habit of sending out a hadith
every week on Joomla, for example,
		
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			or some other day, where it just
goes viral like that. I remember a
		
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			number of occasions.
		
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			And these are really decreased.
Because every time somebody sent
		
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			me one, I'll first ask, can you
please verify this narration?
		
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			Right? I've never heard it before.
Can you please verify where it's
		
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			strong? Oh, I'll get a response.
Oh, somebody else sent it to me.
		
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			So I'm just sending it on as
though that's an excuse.
		
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			So I think commonly we need to
understand just because you got
		
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			free SMS or text messages. You
don't just forward this stuff on
		
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			because you may be doing it in sha
Allah with the with an intention
		
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			of piety.
		
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			But what happens is, you're
committing a major deed, a major,
		
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			major sin in this if it's a
fabricated duration,
		
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			a spirit
		
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			As narration a problematic
narration, or misunderstood
		
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			narration, or whatever it may be,
so always verify your sources.
		
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			Having said that, we must then
become
		
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			extremely suspicious about
everything to the level where if a
		
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			hadith or if we reject it as some
people do today, that's not the
		
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			point. Right? That's not the
point. The point is that when you
		
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			don't know the source of
something, make sure you find out
		
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			a lot. A lot of the time when
people get text messages from
		
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			people that are unknown, you all
you see is the number you don't
		
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			know who's from could be shaytaan,
some shaytaan out there doing
		
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			this, we don't know. Somebody just
and it might sound very pious, you
		
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			may think that oh, it leads to
good things, encouraging people to
		
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			do something good. But isn't this
sufficient in what Rasulullah
		
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			sallallahu has told us? Or
couldn't you say these encouraging
		
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			words even if they're nice, wise
words, because there are many of
		
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			these narrations, which are
considered to be a very high level
		
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			of wisdom? Very wise statement?
Don't say Thomas, will allah
		
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			sallallahu Sallam just say it's
been reported from somewhere, some
		
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			wise man said, no problem. A wise
man said it is a Hadith of
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu. And well,
he's a wise man. And you have to
		
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			be careful. That's why some of the
Sahaba was so careful, like I do,
		
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			like the minister or the Hola,
Juan. Once he was relating a
		
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			narration and he said, Call her
soul allies and Allah Almighty or
		
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			Salam, professionalism said, and
then he used some words he made a
		
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			you know, he related what he
thought, then he said, Oh, call or
		
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			he said, and then he related
another statement, using UTF,
		
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			eight to the same point with
different words. He says, Oh,
		
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			girl, and then he just started
shaking, because he couldn't he
		
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			became very confused as to exactly
what words we use about us, well,
		
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			Allah and Allah is Allah and his
policy or his methodology, rather,
		
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			his practice was rewire belove.
There are two types of rewire in
		
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			general, one is reliable love, and
there is reliable mariner. And
		
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			clearly the reader might have come
to a decision like amongst you
		
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			mentioned very clearly in step
three, that if they were
		
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			restricted
		
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			from relating
		
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			the meaning of what was related,
or what they had heard from
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, and
if they were forced and obligated
		
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			to relate only verbatim words, and
the words exactly as heard from us
		
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			or allah sallallahu Sallam and
then from the next Sahabi and so
		
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			on, then we would not have the
number of a hadith narrations that
		
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			we do, it would have been very
difficult to maintain the faith,
		
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			because it is so difficult to
remember the exact words, but the
		
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			majority accepted reliable manner,
which means the majority accepted,
		
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			narrating you narrating the
meaning as long as the person
		
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			understood what the sahabi
Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam had
		
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			said, majority of narrations are
like that. That's why you have so
		
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			many differences. That's why you
will take the narrations of some
		
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			Sahaba over others, if there's a
dispute between them. For example,
		
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			if Abdullah Masuda day alone said
something, and Abdullah, Abu
		
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			Huraira, the Allahu Anhu said, to
speak at about the same point. But
		
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			there's a difference between the
two, you'll take Abdullah numbers,
		
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			are they alone because he was a
jurist. He'd stayed longer with
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, he
would sit closer to us what Allah
		
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			salAllahu alayhi salam insalata
and so on. So he had a better
		
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			position, he was in a better
position to have understood
		
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			correctly, what sort of loss of a
loved one had said, whereas Abu
		
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			Huraira the alone was not as great
a jurist as I believe, most older
		
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			their loved one was, so there's a
way to deal with these things. But
		
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			Abdullah was already on the he's
known that he among some other
		
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			Sahaba as well, who buckler, the
hola Juan he destroyed all the
		
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			Hadith that he had collected in
writing, because he became
		
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			slightly doubtful about exactly
the words and things. So he he he
		
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			destroyed them.
		
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			But not all the Sahaba did that.
Otherwise, it'd be very difficult.
		
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			Like that's what you call reliably
loved a whoo hoo. Abdullah
		
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			certainly alone become very
preterm, we become very scared,
		
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			very frightened. That Am I really
relating the exact words of
		
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			Rasulullah sallallahu. Some are
not. But as I mentioned, the
		
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			majority say it's okay, to
reliable manner to reliable minor.
		
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			Having said that, going back to
the issue of these, these text
		
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			messages when you do get them next
time, the only way we can stop
		
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			this and curb this is to actually
write back instead of forwarding
		
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			on and say, Can you please find
out about this? And if it's
		
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			something that you don't get a
positive answer, or an accurate
		
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			answer, whatever, and you really
think it's something that people
		
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			could benefit from, we'll just
change it slightly. Don't take off
		
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			that Rasulullah sallallahu you can
say it has been said, or it's a
		
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			report that's been mentioned or a
wise person said, or something of
		
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			that nature, or these are some
beautiful things. You could do it
		
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			or do something like that, because
one has to be very careful that
		
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			this is a narration you know, when
you look at Hadith narrations,
		
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			you've got
		
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			mutawatir you've got my show and
so on. For example, Elijah Looney
		
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			Angelou and I believe today's in
Jordan, north of Jordan,
		
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			Middle East sham area, he compiled
an entire collection called, it's
		
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			called Cashville hover or Mozila
il bas I'm Masha Allah, middle
		
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			Hadith Allah al Synod Enos. So
this is to open up or to reveal to
		
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			reveal the
		
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			the obscurity to clarify or clear
the obscurity and remove the
		
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			confusion, right about those
narrations that are popularly
		
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			related on the tongues of people.
Because this has always been a
		
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			tradition, someone says something
that was sounds kind of wise. And
		
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			then somebody just picks it up
from them. And then they spread
		
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			it. They don't know where it
really came from, what exactly the
		
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			status of that narration is. So in
there, he's collected all of these
		
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			narrations that are popularly
mentioned, that will probably be
		
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			mentioned. And he's mentioned that
you know, which are accurate,
		
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			which are reliable, which are
Saheeh, which are not which are
		
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			fabricated, he mentioned who they
are more classical Huseynov
		
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			Alhama. So, he is another one. He
did he was before he loony and he
		
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			did some work in that there are
other books as well of that
		
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			nature.
		
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			Essentially, what you have is most
of the Hadees that we have are not
		
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			necessarily narrated from 10 or 15
Sahaba, meaning the same narration
		
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			with 10 or 15 Sahaba. There are
many narration that for example,
		
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			the first hadith of Buhari, which
is in the Malama Rubinius. In that
		
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			particular way, is related from
Burma with the Allah one. Right,
		
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			it's rated for Ramadan, the Allah
one. So
		
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			then you've got some narrations
which may be ranging from two or
		
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			three, then you've got very few
narrations, which, maybe 10,
		
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			numerators, 10, Sahaba, 1520,
Sahaba have related, and then from
		
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			the next generation, about at
least 2030 people are related the
		
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			next generation 2030. So which has
a widespread narration in every
		
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			single generation, there are very
few Hadith like that, because you
		
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			can have some that were very
popular before, but then only one
		
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			or two people have them related to
the next generation, from the
		
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			second generation to the third
generation, for example, or
		
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			sometimes you've got a real
narration, which is only once a
		
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			hobby narrated or two, and then
after that many students related
		
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			it from them, so it became more
proliferated afterwards. But if
		
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			you've got a constant,
		
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			widespread narration in every
generation, that's what the Hadith
		
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			which you call mutawatir, and this
is one of those Hadees, which are
		
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			Mutata. And it actually has a
bearing on the meaning as well.
		
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			It's a multilateral Hadith, and it
also shows that you have to be
		
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			careful about the kind of things
that you relate