Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Do Not Do Takfir

The next point he brings up

is woman happy Lucky. Lucky Allah Yuka Pharaoh who hasn't been what

O'Connor or whatever then so be it la Topher Tiller to Allah in us a

young Phil Kaname whereas automatically to Jimmy and alpha

mobility Yuka Furby * in some water clear kamikaze Shipley sama

Sookie maroon ha?

A condom Murphy here and the borrower and inserting a new

Harley don't fit now, let's actually ally, Islam Luffy hayati,

what are the Marathi and this is another writer one brother over

the other

is that you do not make the field,

you do not charge them with disbelief for any sin that they

commit. Even if people begin to believe that the person has

committed it,

you do not charge unless there's a proof that they've done an act of

disbelief.

Why? He says, clearly, people are not very scrupulous these days in

what they say. So be very careful when somebody say something.

They've said something and you've charged him with disbelief, they

may have made a mistake. In the stand, they may have made a

mistake.

And it's very difficult, he says, to know exactly what kind of

expressions statements and words

become a word of disbelief, people, especially some people who

have a lot of harshness in them would like to give it to us and

they're not qualified.

You know, who goes on during the career of others. If you if you

check online,

most of those who are doing the career of others are not scholars.

Some unfortunately are or they claim to be learn the people, but

most are not. They just people who kind of are really hyped up about

some movement, that is a very touchy feely style movement.

They've got shit that in them, generally, these people you'll see

by their nature, they are extremists, just by their nature.

It just happens that they are in this particular group. If they

were another group, they'd be extremists. In another sense, they

are generally also people who came from a very bad background. And

another extreme is background of taking drugs and all of these

kinds of things. And now they found this. So they take it to

another extreme, they just have extreme mentality, their site, the

whole psychology and their approach to the world is an

extremist one. A lot of them, I can't speak to everybody, but a

lot of them are like this, they just extreme nature. So they just

happen to be extreme mentioned, in this case, as well.

So a lot of the expression of extremism that you see out there

is based on a person's extreme nature and his fitrah rather than

he's just using whatever it is the ideology or the group or whatever.

He's just using that as an excuse to justify his extreme nature and

to give that to his extremism. That's essentially what it is. So

he's saying, Look, how can you do the career of somebody, you have

to give them the benefit, you don't even know what makes the

career and what doesn't.

But you see what these people will say that no, this that's just a

senior turn of this guy, he's, there's a person Subhanallah, he,

I noticed that he doesn't make salaam to me, I see someone

wanting to kind of stay silent.

And then after that, I realized one day, he came in asked me about

my Arpita about with allies.

And then I had a big discussion with him and everything like that.

And the problem with selfies who are on this point, I don't like to

quote the name of the groups generally. But this is a very kind

of self extreme set of eating of hungry a lot of selfies have

calmed down a lot. But there's still some especially the new

converts the the worst sometimes, because they've got the ship there

with them anyway. So they've got the extremism in them anyway. So

this is using in this case. So the problem itself is that you cannot

argue with them.

Because they just feel they just see the world in one particular

way. They're not appreciative of the other opinion or you want to

listen to it. They just think everything else is wrong. It's

just a very bad ideology to be in because your world becomes very

dark. Your will become very restricted, despite despite its

vibe of vastness, the Dean becomes

a liability despite the merciful nature of it. That's what happens

in people who are like, that's why a lot of them dry out eventually,

and just lose it.

So, after a long discussion, I realize I'm not getting anywhere.

So he says, No, I understand. I can't pray behind you. But at that

time, I'd left the moment anyway, I'd left being the Imam. I said,

you got a problem because you're both massages close to you. Both

Imams believe in the same ideology that I have. So then he knew he's

cornered, he says, but I haven't heard them myself. So I can't you

know, I'm still gonna pray there. Allahu Akbar. Well, good for him.

At least he's praying. But I know that he still does not make sense

to

I mean, he just comes with this face and just walks past. Allah

help and assist all of us, Allah help and assist all of us.

I was just trying to tell him, just open your mind to understand

the other opinion. That's it. Just open your mind to just understand

where the other people are coming from. You don't have to agree with

it. But at least you will find in yourself the ability to understand

why they think that way. So that at least the harshness that you

feel towards them will be diminished. And at least there'll

be unity that will be created in the Muslim community. Because this

is what creates the most disunity. That's why our Mujahideen these

countries cannot do anything because of this disunity.

Afghanistan got messed up that way, Syria is getting messed up in

the same way. It's the disunity that's creating them. This the 3d

attitude, this not appreciate you don't have to agree with what

somebody else's, but just listen to why they're saying what they

say. That's the important thing.

You know, like there's many cases where I'm convinced that I'm

right. But you have to listen and Subhanallah there have been many

cases where you start to understand why somebody else is

doing. And you sometimes understand that they've got a bit

of truth to what they say, and you enrich yourself better.

And that is very important. So nobody's telling you change your

opinion, but at least appreciate. At least the venom will come out,

at least you will no longer will be a venomous snake. So at least

let's detoxify the situation. We can still get along, continue

praying the way you do no problem. But at least we can detoxify the

situation. So then he says that she called Islamist Sookie one of

the great he was the sheikh with some of his time and the great

scholars him and his son,

some great scholars at that time. So she called her son Sookie.

He says that the Creed is Amarin height, it's a very dangerous

thing to do.

Very dangerous. He says, what's the minimum effect that the key

rule what is the minimum effect of it the minimum effect is you are

essentially saying to somebody who you think is gotten. I mean, you

know a lot of people who think they should do the clear, they

think they should do it as a responsibility. Shall

irresponsibility think they need to do it.

Now what are they doing? Essentially, they are saying

essentially, see, when you say you're a Catholic, it doesn't seem

to be a big deal because it's become so cheap. What does it

mean? If I call somebody a Catholic? What am I saying about

them? I am saying that you are going to be in * forever. I'm

saying you are in * forever. You should not be treated as a

believer in this world or in the Hereafter. That's essentially what

it means to do that fear of somebody. Now doesn't that become

a bit more serious? When he's calling somebody covered? Big

deal. And I don't think I mean, those words even mean anything

today the way people use them. But when you say to somebody, you're

going to be in * forever. And you are not to be treated as a

Muslim in this world and the next now things started becoming a bit

more serious. When you say Cafe you're used to people who you

think are coffee, you know, for the people in this mindset. He is

used to people Garfield's praying with them, because he thinks the

rest of the guys in the masjid or kafir, right? There's some people

like this, believe me, or at least he thinks they may because it

doesn't hurt them. It's a very bad situation. There's two extremists

we've got. We've got some extremists who go to Makkah Makara

Madina Munawwara. And do not pray behind the Imams there or have a

doubt in their prayer behind the Imams there because they are ultra

selfies. Well, because the Imams are selfies and because these

people on the other side. So they have a miserable time in Madina,

Munawwara karma karma. And there's another group of people who are I

don't know which ones worse really, because there's another

group of people who cannot pray in the majority of mosques around the

country, because they're not

there Salafi mosques or whatever was there, you know, whatever

other ideologies there are, which one is worse, the one who goes to

Makkah and Madina, Munawwara and feels out of water fees. Is my

prayer really valid or not, you know, praying behind the Imams

there? Or is it the one who has a problem praying in the majority of

mosques in America or UK or India or Pakistan or anywhere in the

world, for that matter anywhere in the world, for that matter?

Which one's worse? That's the other.

That's punishment for your extremism, that you don't feel

comfortable. And that's not that's not how Islam is supposed to be.

Because if you think that the majority of people are corrupt,

Garfield corrupt, you know, you are the most corrupt of them.

That's what the prophets of Allah Islam said. You say people are

fasted and corrupt and you're the most corrupt of them.

What what are you why are you so special that you've got the truth?

and nobody else the majority doesn't you got the truth

How did you get it? And the majority didn't get it is that

Allah's Rama on the OMA? Allah loves this OMA, you think he's

gonna get the majority of the be Garfield's and Deviance the way

you say they are?

And how did you get chosen?

You just became Muslim, got caught up in the wrong group, and they

brainwashed you this way and gave you an exclusive this mentality.

That's what it is. That's the reality of it. Again, I'm not

saying you need to, you know, you need to change your opinion, but

at least appreciate the other person's opinion and tolerate it.

And finally, under the cute issue, the Prophet sallallahu sallam

said, there's a heavy three Hadith mentality

when you call somebody a calf, each one of you is going to have

to take ownership of that name of that title of the coffee. So if

the person you're calling a coffee is a caffeine according to Allah,

then you're fine. It's like imagine this you've said, you are

careful. These words, they become like a bird or something. And they

go towards that individual. If he is a golfer, and they find their

place colors finish, you're out of it. They are covered. If that

person is not a golfer, according to Allah, then those words come

back, they go left, right, trying to find a place to settle. If they

don't find any coffers to settle on meaning the one you directed to

a comeback comes back to you. Now you may not be a golfer, but you

get the sin of gopher because of that.

That's why it's very dangerous. So I'd rather err on the side of

caution a

lot of people use this you know that they say to you that but why

are you so

restraint and getting these? You know why you being so cautious

about it for it? It's better to be cautious, to be honest