Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Dealing Islamophobia

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the challenges faced by Muslims in their beliefs, including cultural differences and racism. They emphasize the importance of facing these challenges through a method of challenging them and bringing up issues that make the world a better society. They also discuss the negative impact of negative press and comments on society and the need for people to contribute to society. The speakers emphasize the importance of praying with Allah and attending spiritual gatherings for spiritual support.

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			Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al
hamdu Lillahi wa Salatu was Salam
		
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			ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa ala
alihi wa sahbihi wa Baraka was
		
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			seldom at the Sleeman kefir on Eli
o Medina, Amma beret.
		
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			My apologies first because I can't
see any of you. This light is too
		
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			much I can't see yours.
Unfortunately, I'll have to just
		
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			imagine that you're all sitting
there.
		
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			The first thing I want to mention
is that this is my you can see my
		
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			first
		
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			my first visit to Holland, the
Netherlands, the land of the
		
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			Dutch, whatever you want to call
it. And initially, for the last
		
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			several years, the idea that I
can't I can only speak for myself
		
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			and maybe a few others.
		
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			The idea we had of this country,
		
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			oh, Marshall, I can actually start
seeing some of you now.
		
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			The idea we had of this country
was a representation of this creek
		
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			wilderness. He defines who
Netherlands is for the people
		
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			outside. So we've thought it's a
really racist place and I really
		
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			felt sorry for the Muslims. All of
your brothers and sisters that are
		
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			here. I felt really sorry for you
all this time, and traveled to
		
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			many other countries but never to
this country. However, mashallah,
		
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			it's been a pleasant surprise.
After coming here, flying into
		
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			Amsterdam, doing a little tour of
Amsterdam. By the way, the tour of
		
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			Amsterdam meant the big masajid
not anything else. And
		
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			I was completely and utterly
surprised by the size of the
		
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			masjid that you have. For example,
the ISO film was the brand new
		
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			most that's recently built. You
know, when around Europe, I've
		
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			traveled a number of countries
both around Europe, I've lived in
		
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			America and other places and the
sheer size and the prominence the
		
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			imposing nature of your masajid
it's really something that you
		
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			must be thankful about. Because
this is a really important symbol.
		
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			I'll give you an idea Switzerland,
a place like Sweden, which is
		
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			supposed to be where Geneva where
the UN is, it's supposed to be
		
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			such an international kind of
city. I know you have the the den
		
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			hug or whatever you call it to the
Hague. But still Geneva is, you
		
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			know, one of the more prominent
cities in that regard. Still, they
		
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			have an issue with minarets. It's
just too much of a symbol of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			Moscow, I have some friends in
Moscow, there's about 2 million
		
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			Muslims apparently in Moscow, but
only about three or four messages.
		
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			Apparently. You go to France,
which has so many Muslims and they
		
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			have to pray in basements and and
you know, that they're Subhanallah
		
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			I was really pleasantly surprised.
You know, even after coming to
		
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			Rotterdam and seeing the big
minarets, you know, the Ottoman
		
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			minarets in Europe that was quite
surprising for me. So we after
		
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			speaking to a number of brothers,
it does seem that mashallah you do
		
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			have a lot of rights here as
Muslims and Muslims are
		
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			comfortable Muslims mashallah are
allowed to practice their faith.
		
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			Look, we have challenges, we have
challenges everywhere, England,
		
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			this is that's where I'm from. We
have challenges there. I've lived
		
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			in Muslim countries, we have
challenges there in Muslim
		
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			countries. I don't think there's a
single country in the world where
		
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			people don't have challenges.
Challenges is the nature of this
		
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			world, this dunya as long as we're
in this dunya, there's going to be
		
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			challenges. Hopefully in the
hereafter. If it's genital fear
		
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			those, that's when it will be a
life without challenges. The way
		
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			to deal with this world is to try
to deal with the challenges in a
		
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			successful way. So that in sha
Allah, no challenges continue, all
		
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			our challenges are done in this
world, we're free of challenges.
		
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			Then in sha Allah, we get accepted
Salah when either you come in
		
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			genital fear those insha Allah by
the angels.
		
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			Now, one of the I want to speak
about a number of different things
		
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			in a very short time that I have.
		
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			So the first thing I want to speak
about is the challenge of living
		
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			in a western paradigm, not just
the Western paradigm, but a time
		
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			of great liberalism, which becomes
the dominating ideology. If you
		
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			look around you,
		
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			you have many ideas around you,
and ideas can be discussed openly,
		
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			nobody should have a problem with
ideas being discussed. For
		
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			example.
		
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			An idea is the idea of justice,
		
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			idea of macro economics,
economics, marriage, gender
		
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			rights, these are generally
considered ideas and people can
		
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			talk about them, play about with
them, disagree with aspects about
		
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			them. These things are absolutely
possible. However, you then have
		
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			another nother thing which is
called an ideology, an ideology.
		
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			an ideology is something very
different. When you challenge
		
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			somebody
		
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			ideology that is not as easy as
challenging an idea, a generic
		
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			idea, I want you to stay with me,
I'm going to try to make it as
		
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			simple as possible Inshallah,
because this is something that I,
		
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			you know, I'm interested in
ideology is different, what is
		
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			ideology? ideology is about the
background of your brain, the way
		
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			you see the world, the way the
lens by which you see the world,
		
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			even without realizing how you see
the world.
		
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			It is very inherent within us,
it's very essential. It's so close
		
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			to us that we can't even see it.
We don't even realize many
		
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			aspects. It's very deep rooted.
That's an ideology. The only time
		
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			that you become aware of your
ideology is generally when you're
		
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			made aware of your ideology. For
example, there were some tests
		
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			done on people, a section of
people were taken, and they were
		
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			asked that are you racist. And
they all said, clearly, we're not
		
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			racist, we have who we have
absolutely nothing to do with
		
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			racism. We don't agree with any
kind of discrimination racism.
		
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			However, when they were actually
put under certain test conditions,
		
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			they realized that the inherent
racism that they had within them,
		
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			there were very few people without
any kind of racism. I mean, think
		
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			about it. If you're a Moroccan,
you will have some ideas about
		
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			people from Somalia. If you're
Somalian, you may have ideas about
		
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			people from Morocco, from India or
Pakistan, for that matter.
		
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			Sometimes these words come out.
Sometimes these thoughts come in
		
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			the mind, we don't realize that
we're being racist without
		
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			realizing it. So an ideology is
something very deep rooted.
		
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			So basically, you may believe in
something without even realizing
		
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			that you believe in that thing, or
that's the way you think.
		
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			Among all of the places in any
country, it's generally
		
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			universities, which will be the
place that will have the most
		
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			liberalism, the place of
liberalism, in any culture. So
		
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			generally, the ideology in any
university, is generally
		
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			liberalism. Now, when we say
University, I could also say many
		
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			workplaces, if you are working
with many people of other
		
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			religions, in a western capital or
a Western country, this is what
		
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			you're going to come to face, face
to face with as Muslims.
		
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			Generally speaking, we're not
going to, we are not going to
		
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			share a lot of the ideology.
		
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			Right? This is where the tension
comes. You we find it so difficult
		
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			to try to make people realize why
we believe in certain things that
		
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			we believe in why a woman has to
be covered. Right? Why do we have
		
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			to just drop everything and pray
five times a day? It's an ideology
		
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			issue.
		
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			The best way,
		
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			basically, if you don't understand
that this is the basis of the
		
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			conflict, then it's going to be
very difficult to deal with this
		
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			conflict. We're constantly on the
defensive, putting out fires, we
		
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			can never objectively explain
ourselves. We are constantly
		
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			having to answer for things that
people bring up in the media. And
		
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			then we have to say, no, it's like
this or like that. Some people get
		
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			it right in the answers, while
others get it wrong.
		
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			The way to deal with this,
strangely enough, is to actually
		
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			discuss these things with people
to openly discuss these people to
		
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			overtly discuss these things,
bring them up, even if they don't
		
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			want to discuss it. This is what's
going to make a healthier society.
		
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			Questions that people don't even
consider to be questions because
		
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			it is just so so settled in their
mind that this is the way the
		
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			world has to be. This is the idea
we're speaking about.
		
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			This is important. Universities
generally are supposed to be the
		
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			best places for these things,
because it's a place where ideas
		
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			are discussed, ideologies should
be discussed as well. And this
		
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			works out to be very good for
people, you know, you see the
		
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			people who become Muslim reverts.
The reason is that somebody has
		
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			challenged their ideology. They've
started thinking of the world
		
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			different so many new Muslims you
will meet, who will say this is
		
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			what we felt about Islam before I
could never see myself as a
		
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			Muslim. Then what happened? What
changed? Somebody challenged their
		
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			fundamental ideas and managed to
let them see it in a more
		
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			objective fashion.
		
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			Basically, what is liberalism?
Liberalism, which is pretty much
		
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			the dominant idea of the West, and
it's a global idea right now, is
		
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			the idea that humans should not be
constrained and limited in any way
		
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			whatsoever by anything, not by
religion, nor by tradition. So if
		
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			you tell them this is my
tradition, this is my culture.
		
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			This is my religion. People just
think that is just so old
		
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			fashioned.
		
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			This is the first response, they
just think it's all fashion. Why
		
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			do you how can you still believe
in this? Have you heard they say,
		
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			a man from 1400 years ago, you
still believe in a religion that
		
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			came down 1400 years ago? How is
that possible world has moved on.
		
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			This is the idea of liberalism,
the only thing they say that can
		
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			constrain us in our laws, or
public life, or inform our
		
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			morality etc, is reason, rational
argument only, not traditional
		
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			religion, only reason. Sometimes,
they prove this, you know,
		
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			sometimes they use rational
arguments, empirical arguments,
		
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			nobody should judge anything
except through reason, through
		
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			human reason alone only. Now,
let's take a simple example of
		
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			this. One of the manifestations of
this, one of the examples of this
		
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			very amateur way of looking at it
is, there's an idea out there,
		
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			which is very much ingrained in
liberalism is that you can do
		
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			anything, as long as you do not
harm others. Have you heard that
		
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			you're allowed to do anything as
long as you don't harm anybody
		
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			else. Now, this is something we're
all aware of, right? This is a
		
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			general kind of idea. If you do
something in the privacy of your
		
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			bedroom, that's fine. If you do
something outside that is going to
		
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			harm somebody else, it's an issue.
That's why you get so many people
		
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			who will say, you know, I don't
believe this, that and the other
		
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			as long as you're a good person,
as long as you don't think evil of
		
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			anybody else, as long as you let
people live and do what they want.
		
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			This is the way of harmony in this
world. Sounds like a, you know, a
		
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			great idea in that sense. However,
let's look at it from a rational
		
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			perspective. If you take this idea
that you are free to do as you
		
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			want, you are free, or you have
the right to do as you want, as
		
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			long as you do not hurt or harm
anyone. Now, this seems to be a
		
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			very simple statement, and most
people will just accept it, most
		
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			will just accept it.
		
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			However, let's look at this
carefully. This statement is so
		
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			full of number of assumptions,
number of assumptions, which many
		
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			people think that they are,
there's no other way about it. For
		
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			example,
		
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			take the first word, you have
		
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			the last word in here, which is as
long as you don't harm or hurt
		
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			anybody. What does harming or
hurting mean? How much hurts? Are
		
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			you speaking about? Who is going
to be hurt? Who is hurt? Are you
		
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			speaking about? Is that something
that is agreed upon? Or is that
		
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			something that is open to
interpretation? For example, you
		
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			have the right to do whatever you
want, as long as it doesn't harm
		
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			anybody or hurt anybody? If Muslim
hearts are hurt by depictions of
		
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			the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
sallam, then should that still be
		
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			a right or not? And the next
point,
		
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			what is the right? Okay, so let's
understand the right as being a
		
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			human right? A human right is
basically all those rights that a
		
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			human should have, because they
are human beings, every one of us
		
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			who decides that, let's look to
the UN. So many, many decades ago,
		
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			there's the Human Rights charter
of the UN. And within that number
		
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			19, I think it says you have the
freedom to express whatever you
		
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			want, express your religion,
express your ideology, express
		
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			what you believe what you love,
whatever you want to do, this is a
		
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			fundamental human right that they
should be able to express what
		
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			they want. Right. Now, there's
another article number 29, which
		
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			says that these rights can be
limited, or curbed or restricted
		
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			for the purpose of morality, or
public order, for example of
		
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			public safety. So now, we
understand that the rights that
		
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			you're supposed to have of saying
whatever you want, that suddenly
		
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			becomes restricted.
		
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			Now, who's going to restrict it?
Each country and its laws can
		
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			restrict these rights. So now, for
example,
		
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			who makes these decisions as to
what the dominant ideology should
		
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			be of the time?
		
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			Is it going to be certain
countries? Or is it going to be an
		
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			overall group of people or whoever
it is? Who is it going to be? I'll
		
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			give you an example.
		
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			France doesn't allow the veil.
Right? There's been massive issues
		
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			there about the veil. However, it
does allow * on the beaches.
		
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			Right? Okay, that's fine. There's
a freedom of right there that they
		
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			say but this one no, because of
whatever reason. Now, let's go to
		
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			America. In America, if you've got
a man and he wants to go jogging,
		
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			he is allowed to go jogging and
take his top of so he is allowed
		
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			to go jogging *, it's not
against the law. However, if a
		
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			woman wants to do that in America,
not in France, but in America, is
		
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			it allowed in the majority of
states probably all over
		
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			For America, that is not allowed,
they will, they will, she will be
		
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			reported the police will come. So
in a country like America, where
		
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			it is allowed to wear the veil,
		
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			it is allowed for a man to be
*, but not for a woman to be
		
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			*, you go to France. And
it's the other way around. These
		
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			decisions are being made by the
individual countries.
		
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			So what is really human rights,
then who decides what the human
		
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			right is? At the end of the day,
it's the ones who are in power,
		
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			who have the most influence who
have the media on their side, the
		
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			greatest propaganda machines, etc,
they will decide, and everybody
		
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			will have to agree to that, or be
considered to be backwards or
		
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			whatever the case is. So for
example, let's take another
		
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			example of Egypt, Egypt, for
anybody who's been there recently
		
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			in the last 15 years, right?
Because I know in 1950s, it was
		
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			different. But in the last 510 15
years, about 85% of the women,
		
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			they wear the hijab, the head
covering the hijab, right? We're
		
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			not discussing the niqab, yet.
We're discussing the head cover.
		
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			But how many people how many women
wear hijab? They're
		
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			about 85%.
		
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			Are you? You guys following? 85%?
How many do not? How many do not
		
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			observe the hijab? That means 15%?
Now, is that an overwhelming
		
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			majority or not? Now, I'm not
saying this, but imagine that they
		
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			decided that in front, sorry, in
Egypt, because 85% of the women
		
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			wear hijab anyway, let's make a
law mandating hijab for everybody,
		
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			for every woman. Do you think
that's gonna go down? Well, in the
		
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			international community, will that
be considered to be fine with
		
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			human rights? Or will that be
considered to be against human
		
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			rights?
		
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			Right now in America isn't an
against human? And again, I'm not
		
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			vouching for this. I'm not
proposing I'm not proposing this.
		
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			But isn't there a gender
discrimination there in that
		
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			sense, but people have just
accepted it, they haven't thought
		
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			about it too much. They've
accepted it. So whoever has the
		
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			power, the prevailing influence,
they're going to determine these
		
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			things? That is why
		
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			because things do not conform to a
western culture and ideology.
		
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			Egypt would not be would have a
very hard time in mandating
		
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			something like this as an example.
It's a hypothesis.
		
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			Questioning an ideology, though,
living in the West, in
		
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			universities, with our colleagues,
people, we see our neighbors, etc,
		
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			and a friendly discussion, you
know, over maybe some Buchla, or
		
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			whatever the case is, right? Or
biryani, if that's what you do.
		
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			Right?
		
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			Questioning that ideology, in a
nice friendly sense. This is what
		
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			we're going to have to do to
survive. And that is the way we're
		
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			going to be able to contribute to
a better society.
		
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			And questioning such deep rooted
and blind assumptions are going to
		
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			sound very ridiculous and absurd
to many people. Like your question
		
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			that idea. I've never thought
about this is something that I was
		
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			born with something I've been
believing all my life. You know,
		
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			these are things for example,
there was a reporter that came to
		
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			our masjid, our place of prayer in
America when I was an imam there.
		
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			And he he obviously sat on the
men's side. Afterwards, he wrote a
		
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			really nice article. Now, any
reporter that comes they're gonna
		
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			go, you know, in one direction or
the other. Mashallah, he really
		
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			understood he said, this is I
found myself sitting
		
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			for the first time since I was a
very young boy in an all male
		
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			gathering. And it's, it was so
unusual, it seems so strange. But
		
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			then this is what he said. He
said, I guess that's just our
		
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			perspective. Because we are now so
used to even teenage pregnancies,
		
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			we see no problems with them. So
he sees where he's coming from.
		
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			And he's able to enlighten himself
that this is a different way of
		
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			doing things. Right. This is
what's important to challenge
		
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			people on an intellectual basis.
What's their thoughts? Why do they
		
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			believe that? Can you not
appreciate that somebody else
		
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			believes something different? And
for the health of a any Western
		
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			society, this is going to have to
happen? Why is it going to have to
		
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			happen? Because if you I was in
Oslo recently, one in 10 people in
		
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			Oslo is a Muslim. I came back to
London and I started thinking
		
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			after reading that statistic, in
London, one out of every eight
		
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			people is Muslim, Rotterdam, I'm
sure it's more than that, in terms
		
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			of how many people are Muslim in
terms of the percentage of Muslims
		
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			in this country in this city, in
this town or whatever you want to
		
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			call it? And for us to be able to
get along with each other in a
		
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			respectable way.
		
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			We're not trying to shove Islam
down people's throats, we just
		
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			want that we be respected for our
ideology as well, while being
		
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			contributing citizens, citizens
that contribute not just consume,
		
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			I know we've had problems. I don't
know if it's this country or
		
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			another country, where people were
very open minded about immigrants
		
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			coming in. But certain people
among our immigrants came in and
		
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			started to milk the system, abused
the system, mashallah free money,
		
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			you know, free welfare system. So
let's do some work, but also claim
		
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			claim claim. And thus, people
began to be angry to say why these
		
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			foreigners coming and taking our
work, are we taking our money away
		
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			for free, they're driving no
Mercedes, right, they get really
		
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			angry about these things. So when
when people have issues and they
		
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			see other people cheating the
system, it gives a bad name.
		
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			That's why Muslims are gonna,
we're not saying we just want our
		
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			rights and we don't contribute, we
have to contribute. We can't be
		
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			passive individuals just
consuming, consuming, consuming,
		
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			we have to contribute. And that's
what that's what's going to be
		
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			different. So for example,
		
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			if you are working somewhere and
you want time off for Joomla,
		
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			and, or for any normal prayers, or
prayer, for example, and you go
		
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			and say, This is my right, as a
Muslim, whatever, you know, I need
		
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			to be able to pray, but you go
late for work, you leave 510
		
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			minutes before you don't do your
projects properly. You don't do
		
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			your work properly. You don't you,
you know you discount here and
		
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			there? Are you going to get any
respect is there going to be any
		
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			respect for us, there's going to
be no respect for us. If you are a
		
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			contributor, a person of value, a
true Mohammadi, a true person of
		
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			integrity, then people are going
to respect what you have. I'll
		
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			give you a simple example. I had a
friend who worked in an
		
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			engineering firm, a firm, he was a
he was an engineer for
		
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			superconductor technologies. This
was right in the 90s. In the early
		
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			2000s, when, you know the mobile
phones, the cell phones had just
		
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			come out and they needed the
superconductor technology. He
		
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			mashallah was a very good
engineer, very humble man, a half
		
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			Egyptian, half Palestinian, and
he's working in America in this
		
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			firm, he would refuse to go, he
would refuse to go to the annual
		
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			general meetings because they
would serve wine in the annual
		
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			general meetings. But he was an
asset to the company. After about
		
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			two, three years, he says his
supervisor came to him and said to
		
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			him, we'd like you to come to the
annual general meeting this year,
		
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			it's in, you know, a few weeks or
whatever. He said, You know, he
		
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			mentioned his name, he said, Paul,
or whatever, you know, I can't
		
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			come because as you know, I've got
an issue I can't sit, you know,
		
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			with with wine being served. And
you know, what his supervisor
		
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			tells him, as soon as it tells him
that, you know, we've changed the
		
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			policy this from this year, we're
no longer we're no longer going to
		
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			serve wine anymore in our annual
general meetings. Now, if you
		
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			think to yourself that, how can I
do something I know, we're not
		
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			hoping for miracles like this all
the time. But what I'm trying to
		
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			say is that if you are an asset,
and you're a Muslim, at the same
		
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			time, then you will be able to in
people's minds link success to
		
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			Islam, not failure to Islam, which
the media is putting through,
		
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			which basically, unfortunately,
many of our people seem to be
		
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			contributing towards as well
around the world, a failure story,
		
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			unfortunately, that's what's going
on. I want to provide some
		
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			optimism here, that the idea is
that if you are in a good position
		
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			in countries like Holland and
England and Norway and America and
		
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			other places where you have
rights, where you can work in
		
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			different fields, well educated
Muslims are generally well
		
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			educated, right? At least a second
generation. Mashallah, right? I
		
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			was just speaking to a brother,
his father's a taxi driver, but he
		
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			himself is a dentist, his
brother's a doctor, his sister's a
		
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			pediatrician. I think his other
sister is a doctor as well. I
		
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			mean, this means that we're gonna,
we're gonna have some huge assets,
		
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			right? We're going to have some
huge assets, but that comes with
		
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			responsibility. Are those huge
assets? All this learning all this
		
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			education? Is it going to just
live the Western dream as such of,
		
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			of this liberalism that do as you
wish, do as you want? Forget your
		
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			deen your tradition and so on and
so forth? Or are you going to hold
		
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			fast onto your deen and, and
contribute? That's the difficulty.
		
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			That's the difficulty. So what we
have to do is we have to challenge
		
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			assumptions in friendly
discussions. Give you another
		
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			example.
		
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			One of the biggest things that
we're dealing with today is that
		
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			Muslims are violent people. So
there's concepts of Muslim
		
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			violence, Islamic violence, and so
on and so forth. I guarantee you,
		
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			every one of us is beaten with
this stick all the time. Right. In
		
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			fact, so many Muslims, I've
actually started to believe that
		
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			we have violent people, and they
try to say, I'm not the one
		
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			majority maybe but I'm not the
one. It's become such a concept,
		
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			such an ideology that's becoming
so ingrained in people that it's
		
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			even become ingrained in many
wisdoms. They start using the same
		
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			lingo. Now, let's let's look at
some statistics here. The reason
		
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			why we get beaten with this stick
		
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			And people make us believe this is
the case is because we don't know
		
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			statistics. So if we take how
many, let's give me an idea of how
		
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			many Muslims exist in the world
today. Okay? All right, the range
		
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			is between 1.5 to 1.8 billion.
That's the range. So let's take
		
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			the lowest range 1.5 billion to
make it easy. 1.5 not even
		
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			1.8 1.5. How many Muslims have
been incriminated on any kind of
		
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			terrorism charge throughout the
world?
		
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			In the last, you know, 1015 years
or whatever. Do you know what the
		
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			percentage is? And when we say
terrorism, I'd say take the
		
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			broadest definition of terrorism,
not not the most restrictive form,
		
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			but take the broadest for anything
that is you know that anybody
		
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			labels terrorism, consider that
out of 1.5 billion Muslims. How
		
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			many Muslims throughout the world
have been incriminated in any kind
		
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			of terrorism charges? Do you know
what that percentage is?
		
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			Okay, Marshall, there's some seems
to be some enlightened people here
		
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			who are taking some either really
good wild guesses, right? Or they
		
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			know their statistics. Right? But
basically what it is, is that
		
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			maybe you're exaggerating a bit
more, but 2.8 point 00 6%.
		
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			Point 00 6%, not even 1%.
		
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			So then, why do we are we led to
believe that Muslims are the
		
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			violent people? Why is it that
when a Muslim does something, or
		
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			tries to do something, or is
caught with something
		
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			incriminating, it becomes big
news, but when others do it, it's
		
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			just a small idea, a small write
up a small article, a small
		
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			mention,
		
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			this is what it is because we are
being led to believe the same
		
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			thing. And this is very, this is
very bad for our deen, because
		
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			this takes people away from
wanting to be Muslim, because then
		
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			they start thinking Islam is
violent, not just some Muslims.
		
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			Yes, some Muslims are violent,
they spoiled it for the rest of
		
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			us. They think they're doing some
great mission by going and killing
		
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			a few innocent people here and
there. And then for the rest of
		
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			us, we get checked at airports, we
get, you know, we get bullied, we
		
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			get discriminated against the 1.51
point 8 billion Muslims then take
		
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			the brunt of that force. And these
people think that they've got some
		
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			kind of shahada, and they've gone.
		
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			That's the problem here. Now,
let's take another quick example.
		
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			Before I move on to another topic.
They keep saying that Muslims
		
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			don't speak out against terrorism.
Nobody says, you know, nobody
		
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			talks about terrorism. Nobody says
we were against terrorism, they
		
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			keep telling us that Subhanallah
there's a non Muslim Professor
		
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			Charles Kurzman. If you go on his
website, search for Charles
		
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			Kurzman.
		
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			If I'm saying that name, right, K
u r, Zed ma N, he's got the whole
		
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			list of people who've, who voiced
the you know, who voiced something
		
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			against terrorism, including
everything from Sheikh Yusuf al
		
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			Qaradawi to the Mufti of Egypt to
the Mufti of, of Saudi Arabia,
		
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			right. And to Darwin, they were
born in India, he's got
		
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			everybody's name listed down
there, a huge list of people. Now,
		
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			if we're not aware of that, and
we're challenged by this, Hey, how
		
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			come you guys don't speak? You
just think about your local imam
		
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			in the masjid. But you should look
at the big voices, and all of
		
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			these things are there, okay? The
main example?
		
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			Muslims, they they're gonna say
that Muslims justify the killing
		
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			of innocent people. Now, let's say
they obviously mentioned al Qaeda
		
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			and bin Laden, etc. Maybe that's a
bit of an old story right now,
		
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			because they they came into
Afghanistan and messed with the
		
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			Taliban Taliban then became al
Qaeda or the al Qaeda were
		
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			created, then there was the whole
thing against al Qaeda, then they
		
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			created the Islamic so called
State
		
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			mashallah, and I get a smile at
the end of it as well. Okay, that
		
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			means,
		
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			by the way, I'm Indian. And in
places like this, you get a lot of
		
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			things that are allowed for
Indians that are generally not
		
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			allowed for Moroccans or Turkish
people. So I guess I think I can
		
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			take a few more minutes.
		
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			You just wasted another minute.
		
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			Anyway.
		
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			So let's just take they generally
quote bin Laden's
		
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			justification or argument for
killing innocent people in
		
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			American New York? What is the
what is the argument? The argument
		
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			is that because they voted for the
government, they are also implicit
		
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			in that regard. Now, again, that's
sounds like an Islamic argument.
		
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			Anybody who voted it's a
democratic argument, really, at
		
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			the end of the day, Sunday Sunday
argument. However, you can argue
		
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			about that all you want.
somebody's done it already. Now,
		
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			how would you argue this case? For
example, if you keep abreast with
		
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			these things, there is a very
famous law professor at Harvard,
		
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			right one of the top universities
of America, whose name is Alan
		
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			dosha pitch, he is very a great
proponent of Israel and so on and
		
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			so forth.
		
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			When Israel bombed Gaza, you know,
two years ago, three years ago,
		
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			whenever it was recently, his
idea, his argument for the
		
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			justification of killing innocent
people in which more innocent
		
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			people who killed it and others,
who said it's justified. Why?
		
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			Because they voted for Hamas. They
support Hamas. That's why isn't
		
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			that the same argument that bin
Laden so called used for killing
		
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			innocent people in in America? If
that's bad, isn't this bad? But
		
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			no, this is a celebrated scholar
who says,
		
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			we have so many of these cases, we
have so many of these inequalities
		
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			in a sense, but unfortunately,
liberalism is supposed to be a
		
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			doctrine of tolerance. That's how
it started. Because of the
		
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			religious repression in Europe.
Liberalism became the new
		
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			ideology, right after a lot of
hard work and a lot of a lot of
		
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			oppression no doubt that there was
a lot of oppression in Europe
		
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			through the church. It's supposed
to be a doctrine of tolerance. But
		
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			however, today, unfortunately,
liberalism has, how much is it
		
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			willing to tolerate anything but
itself, for example, it's becoming
		
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			very coercive, it's becoming
militant, in some ways, you must
		
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			have such an such a curriculum,
this is what we're dealing with in
		
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			England, right, you must have such
and such a curriculum, you must
		
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			have this and that view, about
alternative sexualities about
		
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			gender, et cetera, et cetera,
increasing number of boxes,
		
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			Muslims having to tick tick
wherever they go. And the whole
		
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			idea and premise of liberalism was
to open up people's horizons. But
		
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			that's unfortunately not
happening. We have to help this,
		
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			we have to be proponents of this
idea, in that sense, help people
		
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			think about others, because it's a
reality that we're going to live
		
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			with a lot of Muslims are strange
people around us. Now, there's
		
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			another very interesting, you
know, Europe's xenophobia against
		
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			immigrants and different
traditions. One of the arguments
		
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			of where that comes from, is
because of liberalism, and
		
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			modernity, and postmodernity,
where anything goes the old
		
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			traditions of even Europe,
Victorian England, Edwardian
		
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			England, I don't know, the
equator, the you know, the, the
		
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			equivalent in, in Dutch, so, you
know, forgive you for that. But
		
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			all of those traditions of those
times have gone, it's all about a
		
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			bottomless endless possibilities.
That's what liberalism is about,
		
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			you can think and do whatever you
want. It's a very fluid kind of
		
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			system with no boundaries or ends.
That's how you can make money out
		
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			of thin air today, you know,
because of the banking sector, the
		
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			stock exchange, and so on and so
forth. However, a lot of these
		
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			people, they are base fitness,
they sense
		
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			a feeling of loss of their
tradition of good old, maybe Dutch
		
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			traditions or whatever it was that
that had been replaced. And, you
		
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			know, the only people that they
see who are different is that
		
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			Muslim that Turkish guy with that
darkness, you know, I mean,
		
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			subhanAllah you travel around
Rotterdam, all you see is keep up,
		
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			keep up. And you see his shawarma.
And you see, what do you call it?
		
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			I don't see I didn't see. But to
be honest, I didn't see so much
		
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			biryani, right. I just saw keep up
and show Arman donor and this done
		
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			and other hamdulillah but where's
the where's the, you know, I still
		
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			haven't had any Dutch food,
		
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			you know, SubhanAllah. So it's
really strange
		
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			area that we're living in. So now
to finish off, I'm going to have
		
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			to really
		
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			move on and finish this off.
		
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			We have to really, really wizened
up to these issues. Because
		
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			this concept we're dealing with
has no soul. Because it has no
		
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			Osona no fundamentals, anything
goes whatever, you know, whatever.
		
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			Whatever goes. That's why to be
honest, Muslims have a hard time
		
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			dealing with this because Muslims
believe in certain fundamentals,
		
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			we believe in certain things which
are black and white, in you know,
		
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			there's a lot of gray matters
well, but there's a lot of black
		
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			and whites, And subhanAllah many
of the things which are considered
		
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			to be orthodox positions that are
accepted in our liberal societies
		
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			today, in another 50 to 100 years,
those may become outrageous,
		
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			that's the way things are moving
with everything that we see around
		
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			us, you know, technology,
ideology, everything. It's a very
		
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			hard task for Muslims to deal with
these things and to maintain their
		
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			faith. That's why in the two
minutes that I've got to finish
		
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			off, I just want to mention one
final inshallah positive note
		
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			because we need a heart that will
be able to stay with Allah
		
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			subhanaw taala because we may lose
everything of this world and I
		
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			don't say it's that bad.
Inshallah, right, we've still got
		
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			a lot of things, and I'm very
hopeful, but we must have a
		
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			connection with Allah subhanaw
taala. And in that regard, I just
		
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			want to leave you with five very,
very, very, very simple
		
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			Little things that if you do on a
daily basis, then inshallah you
		
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			will remain strong inside your
hope and your trust in Allah will
		
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			remain. And in sha Allah you will
feel at least not depressed and
		
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			you will feel very hopeful. First
and foremost 100 is still far in
		
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			the morning and evening. I know
this is going from academic
		
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			talking to like some aspect of
spirituality. But this is because
		
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			we are spiritual beings, right we
have a connection with Allah 100
		
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			So far in the morning and evening.
The benefit of this is that if
		
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			whatever we've done wrong in the
daytime will be forgiven if we do
		
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			the 100 is take part in the
evening stuff with Allah Hara beam
		
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			equilibrium we wanted to but then
in the morning we do another 100
		
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			So everything from the nighttime
that gets forgiven. So now we're
		
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			forgiven and pure Insha Allah,
then we need some baraka and
		
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			blessing. So we do number 200
salawat and Rasulullah sallallahu
		
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			alayhi salam Allahumma salli ala
Sayyidina Muhammad wa early so you
		
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			dinner Mohamed El verde crystal
Lim 100 times morning and times
		
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			evening. The benefit of that is
you get some blessing, you get
		
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			baraka and we need baraka and
blessing one by one blessing from
		
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			ALLAH is sufficient, so we get 100
That's wonderful. Number three
		
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			Quran if you can only read half a
page a day or one page a day Hello
		
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			has no problem but read at least
that much a day where they be on
		
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			your phone or somewhere else read
at least that much whether you're
		
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			in the tram on transit wherever
you're going, make that a habit
		
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			number three, number four. Number
four, spend some time with Allah
		
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			every day. That means just private
time with Allah. Unfortunately,
		
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			our salads were very distracted in
our salah, even those of us who
		
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			are pray, who pray we Allahu
Akbar, and then we go on automatic
		
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			pilot As salam o aleikum wa
rahmatullah you have arrived.
		
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			Right? So we spend five to 10
minutes in just thinking about
		
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			Allah, one very simple way to do
that, sit in a quiet place, head
		
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			down, close your eyes. Imagine
that Allah has Rama and mercy is
		
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			coming down on your heart because
his mercy is everywhere. Imagine
		
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			you're attracting it to your
heart. And then you're, it's, it's
		
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			dealing with all of the darkness
of our hearts. And then our heart
		
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			just begins to say, hola, hola,
hola. And that we just thinking
		
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			about Allah with our heart, not
with our tongue, just, you know,
		
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			really just think about Allah for
five to 10 minutes, this will be
		
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			very, very powerful. And number
five, the last one, so 100 is too
		
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			far, seeking forgiveness 100, the
Salawat and Rasulullah sallallahu
		
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			alayhi salam, one page of the
Quran number five was this
		
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			meditation or Morocco or whatever
you want to call it vicar of the
		
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			heart. And number five, at least
once a week, go and attend any
		
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			kind of spiritual gathering that
makes you closer to Allah. Not a
		
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			not a Isaac MSA gathering or group
gathering or discussion but
		
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			something that takes you close to
Allah and today you have YouTube,
		
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			right? With all the crazy stuff on
YouTube, there's some really good
		
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			stuff on YouTube, you can have any
shape that you want, he's at your
		
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			bidding, you can make him faster,
you can make him slower, you can
		
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			stop him, you know, you can change
him just Subhanallah so whatever,
		
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			whatever gives you that spiritual
boost, you need spiritual not
		
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			talking about a fit classes are
important. I've seen classes are
		
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			important. But we need something
that that incorporates within. So
		
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			if there's a tough C class that's
also spiritual, then take that
		
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			one. I leave us with this. I leave
us with this. My time is up. But I
		
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			am really really, really thankful
to our brothers and sisters of
		
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			this of the towhead group. All the
other speakers and of course all
		
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			of you who have taken this time
out on a very valuable Sunday,
		
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			Sunday is a very valuable that
people do all sorts of things on
		
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			Sunday for you to come here and do
this. May Allah allow all of your
		
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			other chores and responsibilities
to be fulfilled as well with
		
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			Baraka because you spend some time
for the sake of Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala make us Allah allow us all
to be turned away from here
		
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			forgiven and inspired and in sha
Allah, better people who will who
		
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			will will do something for the
Ummah who will be accepted with
		
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			Kabuli inshallah for the OMA May
Allah accept all of us working
		
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			with that Alana and Al hamdu
Lillahi Rabbil Alameen