Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Dealing Islamophobia

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the challenges faced by Muslims in their beliefs, including cultural differences and racism. They emphasize the importance of facing these challenges through a method of challenging them and bringing up issues that make the world a better society. They also discuss the negative impact of negative press and comments on society and the need for people to contribute to society. The speakers emphasize the importance of praying with Allah and attending spiritual gatherings for spiritual support.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi wa Salatu was Salam

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ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi wa Baraka was

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seldom at the Sleeman kefir on Eli o Medina, Amma beret.

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My apologies first because I can't see any of you. This light is too

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much I can't see yours. Unfortunately, I'll have to just

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imagine that you're all sitting there.

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The first thing I want to mention is that this is my you can see my

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first

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my first visit to Holland, the Netherlands, the land of the

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Dutch, whatever you want to call it. And initially, for the last

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several years, the idea that I can't I can only speak for myself

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and maybe a few others.

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The idea we had of this country,

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oh, Marshall, I can actually start seeing some of you now.

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The idea we had of this country was a representation of this creek

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wilderness. He defines who Netherlands is for the people

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outside. So we've thought it's a really racist place and I really

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felt sorry for the Muslims. All of your brothers and sisters that are

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here. I felt really sorry for you all this time, and traveled to

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many other countries but never to this country. However, mashallah,

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it's been a pleasant surprise. After coming here, flying into

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Amsterdam, doing a little tour of Amsterdam. By the way, the tour of

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Amsterdam meant the big masajid not anything else. And

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I was completely and utterly surprised by the size of the

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masjid that you have. For example, the ISO film was the brand new

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most that's recently built. You know, when around Europe, I've

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traveled a number of countries both around Europe, I've lived in

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America and other places and the sheer size and the prominence the

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imposing nature of your masajid it's really something that you

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must be thankful about. Because this is a really important symbol.

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I'll give you an idea Switzerland, a place like Sweden, which is

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supposed to be where Geneva where the UN is, it's supposed to be

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such an international kind of city. I know you have the the den

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hug or whatever you call it to the Hague. But still Geneva is, you

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know, one of the more prominent cities in that regard. Still, they

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have an issue with minarets. It's just too much of a symbol of

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Islam.

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Moscow, I have some friends in Moscow, there's about 2 million

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Muslims apparently in Moscow, but only about three or four messages.

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Apparently. You go to France, which has so many Muslims and they

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have to pray in basements and and you know, that they're Subhanallah

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I was really pleasantly surprised. You know, even after coming to

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Rotterdam and seeing the big minarets, you know, the Ottoman

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minarets in Europe that was quite surprising for me. So we after

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speaking to a number of brothers, it does seem that mashallah you do

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have a lot of rights here as Muslims and Muslims are

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comfortable Muslims mashallah are allowed to practice their faith.

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Look, we have challenges, we have challenges everywhere, England,

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this is that's where I'm from. We have challenges there. I've lived

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in Muslim countries, we have challenges there in Muslim

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countries. I don't think there's a single country in the world where

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people don't have challenges. Challenges is the nature of this

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world, this dunya as long as we're in this dunya, there's going to be

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challenges. Hopefully in the hereafter. If it's genital fear

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those, that's when it will be a life without challenges. The way

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to deal with this world is to try to deal with the challenges in a

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successful way. So that in sha Allah, no challenges continue, all

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our challenges are done in this world, we're free of challenges.

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Then in sha Allah, we get accepted Salah when either you come in

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genital fear those insha Allah by the angels.

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Now, one of the I want to speak about a number of different things

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in a very short time that I have.

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So the first thing I want to speak about is the challenge of living

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in a western paradigm, not just the Western paradigm, but a time

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of great liberalism, which becomes the dominating ideology. If you

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look around you,

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you have many ideas around you, and ideas can be discussed openly,

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nobody should have a problem with ideas being discussed. For

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example.

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An idea is the idea of justice,

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idea of macro economics, economics, marriage, gender

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rights, these are generally considered ideas and people can

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talk about them, play about with them, disagree with aspects about

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them. These things are absolutely possible. However, you then have

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another nother thing which is called an ideology, an ideology.

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an ideology is something very different. When you challenge

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somebody

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ideology that is not as easy as challenging an idea, a generic

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idea, I want you to stay with me, I'm going to try to make it as

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simple as possible Inshallah, because this is something that I,

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you know, I'm interested in ideology is different, what is

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ideology? ideology is about the background of your brain, the way

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you see the world, the way the lens by which you see the world,

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even without realizing how you see the world.

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It is very inherent within us, it's very essential. It's so close

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to us that we can't even see it. We don't even realize many

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aspects. It's very deep rooted. That's an ideology. The only time

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that you become aware of your ideology is generally when you're

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made aware of your ideology. For example, there were some tests

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done on people, a section of people were taken, and they were

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asked that are you racist. And they all said, clearly, we're not

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racist, we have who we have absolutely nothing to do with

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racism. We don't agree with any kind of discrimination racism.

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However, when they were actually put under certain test conditions,

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they realized that the inherent racism that they had within them,

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there were very few people without any kind of racism. I mean, think

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about it. If you're a Moroccan, you will have some ideas about

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people from Somalia. If you're Somalian, you may have ideas about

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people from Morocco, from India or Pakistan, for that matter.

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Sometimes these words come out. Sometimes these thoughts come in

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the mind, we don't realize that we're being racist without

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realizing it. So an ideology is something very deep rooted.

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So basically, you may believe in something without even realizing

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that you believe in that thing, or that's the way you think.

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Among all of the places in any country, it's generally

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universities, which will be the place that will have the most

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liberalism, the place of liberalism, in any culture. So

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generally, the ideology in any university, is generally

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liberalism. Now, when we say University, I could also say many

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workplaces, if you are working with many people of other

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religions, in a western capital or a Western country, this is what

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you're going to come to face, face to face with as Muslims.

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Generally speaking, we're not going to, we are not going to

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share a lot of the ideology.

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Right? This is where the tension comes. You we find it so difficult

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to try to make people realize why we believe in certain things that

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we believe in why a woman has to be covered. Right? Why do we have

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to just drop everything and pray five times a day? It's an ideology

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issue.

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The best way,

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basically, if you don't understand that this is the basis of the

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conflict, then it's going to be very difficult to deal with this

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conflict. We're constantly on the defensive, putting out fires, we

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can never objectively explain ourselves. We are constantly

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having to answer for things that people bring up in the media. And

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then we have to say, no, it's like this or like that. Some people get

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it right in the answers, while others get it wrong.

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The way to deal with this, strangely enough, is to actually

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discuss these things with people to openly discuss these people to

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overtly discuss these things, bring them up, even if they don't

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want to discuss it. This is what's going to make a healthier society.

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Questions that people don't even consider to be questions because

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it is just so so settled in their mind that this is the way the

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world has to be. This is the idea we're speaking about.

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This is important. Universities generally are supposed to be the

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best places for these things, because it's a place where ideas

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are discussed, ideologies should be discussed as well. And this

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works out to be very good for people, you know, you see the

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people who become Muslim reverts. The reason is that somebody has

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challenged their ideology. They've started thinking of the world

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different so many new Muslims you will meet, who will say this is

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what we felt about Islam before I could never see myself as a

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Muslim. Then what happened? What changed? Somebody challenged their

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fundamental ideas and managed to let them see it in a more

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objective fashion.

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Basically, what is liberalism? Liberalism, which is pretty much

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the dominant idea of the West, and it's a global idea right now, is

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the idea that humans should not be constrained and limited in any way

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whatsoever by anything, not by religion, nor by tradition. So if

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you tell them this is my tradition, this is my culture.

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This is my religion. People just think that is just so old

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fashioned.

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This is the first response, they just think it's all fashion. Why

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do you how can you still believe in this? Have you heard they say,

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a man from 1400 years ago, you still believe in a religion that

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came down 1400 years ago? How is that possible world has moved on.

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This is the idea of liberalism, the only thing they say that can

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constrain us in our laws, or public life, or inform our

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morality etc, is reason, rational argument only, not traditional

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religion, only reason. Sometimes, they prove this, you know,

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sometimes they use rational arguments, empirical arguments,

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nobody should judge anything except through reason, through

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human reason alone only. Now, let's take a simple example of

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this. One of the manifestations of this, one of the examples of this

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very amateur way of looking at it is, there's an idea out there,

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which is very much ingrained in liberalism is that you can do

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anything, as long as you do not harm others. Have you heard that

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you're allowed to do anything as long as you don't harm anybody

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else. Now, this is something we're all aware of, right? This is a

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general kind of idea. If you do something in the privacy of your

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bedroom, that's fine. If you do something outside that is going to

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harm somebody else, it's an issue. That's why you get so many people

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who will say, you know, I don't believe this, that and the other

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as long as you're a good person, as long as you don't think evil of

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anybody else, as long as you let people live and do what they want.

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This is the way of harmony in this world. Sounds like a, you know, a

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great idea in that sense. However, let's look at it from a rational

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perspective. If you take this idea that you are free to do as you

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want, you are free, or you have the right to do as you want, as

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long as you do not hurt or harm anyone. Now, this seems to be a

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very simple statement, and most people will just accept it, most

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will just accept it.

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However, let's look at this carefully. This statement is so

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full of number of assumptions, number of assumptions, which many

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people think that they are, there's no other way about it. For

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example,

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take the first word, you have

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the last word in here, which is as long as you don't harm or hurt

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anybody. What does harming or hurting mean? How much hurts? Are

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you speaking about? Who is going to be hurt? Who is hurt? Are you

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speaking about? Is that something that is agreed upon? Or is that

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something that is open to interpretation? For example, you

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have the right to do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't harm

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anybody or hurt anybody? If Muslim hearts are hurt by depictions of

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the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu sallam, then should that still be

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a right or not? And the next point,

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what is the right? Okay, so let's understand the right as being a

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human right? A human right is basically all those rights that a

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human should have, because they are human beings, every one of us

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who decides that, let's look to the UN. So many, many decades ago,

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there's the Human Rights charter of the UN. And within that number

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19, I think it says you have the freedom to express whatever you

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want, express your religion, express your ideology, express

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what you believe what you love, whatever you want to do, this is a

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fundamental human right that they should be able to express what

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they want. Right. Now, there's another article number 29, which

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says that these rights can be limited, or curbed or restricted

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for the purpose of morality, or public order, for example of

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public safety. So now, we understand that the rights that

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you're supposed to have of saying whatever you want, that suddenly

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becomes restricted.

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Now, who's going to restrict it? Each country and its laws can

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restrict these rights. So now, for example,

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who makes these decisions as to what the dominant ideology should

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be of the time?

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Is it going to be certain countries? Or is it going to be an

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overall group of people or whoever it is? Who is it going to be? I'll

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give you an example.

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France doesn't allow the veil. Right? There's been massive issues

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there about the veil. However, it does allow * on the beaches.

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Right? Okay, that's fine. There's a freedom of right there that they

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say but this one no, because of whatever reason. Now, let's go to

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America. In America, if you've got a man and he wants to go jogging,

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he is allowed to go jogging and take his top of so he is allowed

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to go jogging *, it's not against the law. However, if a

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woman wants to do that in America, not in France, but in America, is

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it allowed in the majority of states probably all over

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For America, that is not allowed, they will, they will, she will be

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reported the police will come. So in a country like America, where

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it is allowed to wear the veil,

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it is allowed for a man to be *, but not for a woman to be

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*, you go to France. And it's the other way around. These

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decisions are being made by the individual countries.

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So what is really human rights, then who decides what the human

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right is? At the end of the day, it's the ones who are in power,

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who have the most influence who have the media on their side, the

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greatest propaganda machines, etc, they will decide, and everybody

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will have to agree to that, or be considered to be backwards or

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whatever the case is. So for example, let's take another

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example of Egypt, Egypt, for anybody who's been there recently

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in the last 15 years, right? Because I know in 1950s, it was

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different. But in the last 510 15 years, about 85% of the women,

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they wear the hijab, the head covering the hijab, right? We're

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not discussing the niqab, yet. We're discussing the head cover.

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But how many people how many women wear hijab? They're

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about 85%.

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Are you? You guys following? 85%? How many do not? How many do not

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observe the hijab? That means 15%? Now, is that an overwhelming

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majority or not? Now, I'm not saying this, but imagine that they

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decided that in front, sorry, in Egypt, because 85% of the women

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wear hijab anyway, let's make a law mandating hijab for everybody,

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for every woman. Do you think that's gonna go down? Well, in the

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international community, will that be considered to be fine with

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human rights? Or will that be considered to be against human

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rights?

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Right now in America isn't an against human? And again, I'm not

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vouching for this. I'm not proposing I'm not proposing this.

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But isn't there a gender discrimination there in that

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sense, but people have just accepted it, they haven't thought

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about it too much. They've accepted it. So whoever has the

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power, the prevailing influence, they're going to determine these

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things? That is why

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because things do not conform to a western culture and ideology.

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Egypt would not be would have a very hard time in mandating

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something like this as an example. It's a hypothesis.

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Questioning an ideology, though, living in the West, in

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universities, with our colleagues, people, we see our neighbors, etc,

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and a friendly discussion, you know, over maybe some Buchla, or

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whatever the case is, right? Or biryani, if that's what you do.

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Right?

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Questioning that ideology, in a nice friendly sense. This is what

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we're going to have to do to survive. And that is the way we're

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going to be able to contribute to a better society.

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And questioning such deep rooted and blind assumptions are going to

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sound very ridiculous and absurd to many people. Like your question

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that idea. I've never thought about this is something that I was

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born with something I've been believing all my life. You know,

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these are things for example, there was a reporter that came to

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our masjid, our place of prayer in America when I was an imam there.

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And he he obviously sat on the men's side. Afterwards, he wrote a

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really nice article. Now, any reporter that comes they're gonna

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go, you know, in one direction or the other. Mashallah, he really

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understood he said, this is I found myself sitting

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for the first time since I was a very young boy in an all male

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gathering. And it's, it was so unusual, it seems so strange. But

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then this is what he said. He said, I guess that's just our

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perspective. Because we are now so used to even teenage pregnancies,

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we see no problems with them. So he sees where he's coming from.

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And he's able to enlighten himself that this is a different way of

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doing things. Right. This is what's important to challenge

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people on an intellectual basis. What's their thoughts? Why do they

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believe that? Can you not appreciate that somebody else

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believes something different? And for the health of a any Western

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society, this is going to have to happen? Why is it going to have to

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happen? Because if you I was in Oslo recently, one in 10 people in

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Oslo is a Muslim. I came back to London and I started thinking

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after reading that statistic, in London, one out of every eight

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people is Muslim, Rotterdam, I'm sure it's more than that, in terms

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of how many people are Muslim in terms of the percentage of Muslims

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in this country in this city, in this town or whatever you want to

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call it? And for us to be able to get along with each other in a

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respectable way.

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We're not trying to shove Islam down people's throats, we just

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want that we be respected for our ideology as well, while being

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contributing citizens, citizens that contribute not just consume,

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I know we've had problems. I don't know if it's this country or

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another country, where people were very open minded about immigrants

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coming in. But certain people among our immigrants came in and

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started to milk the system, abused the system, mashallah free money,

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you know, free welfare system. So let's do some work, but also claim

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claim claim. And thus, people began to be angry to say why these

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foreigners coming and taking our work, are we taking our money away

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for free, they're driving no Mercedes, right, they get really

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angry about these things. So when when people have issues and they

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see other people cheating the system, it gives a bad name.

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That's why Muslims are gonna, we're not saying we just want our

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rights and we don't contribute, we have to contribute. We can't be

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passive individuals just consuming, consuming, consuming,

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we have to contribute. And that's what that's what's going to be

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different. So for example,

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if you are working somewhere and you want time off for Joomla,

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and, or for any normal prayers, or prayer, for example, and you go

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and say, This is my right, as a Muslim, whatever, you know, I need

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to be able to pray, but you go late for work, you leave 510

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minutes before you don't do your projects properly. You don't do

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your work properly. You don't you, you know you discount here and

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there? Are you going to get any respect is there going to be any

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respect for us, there's going to be no respect for us. If you are a

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contributor, a person of value, a true Mohammadi, a true person of

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integrity, then people are going to respect what you have. I'll

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give you a simple example. I had a friend who worked in an

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engineering firm, a firm, he was a he was an engineer for

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superconductor technologies. This was right in the 90s. In the early

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2000s, when, you know the mobile phones, the cell phones had just

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come out and they needed the superconductor technology. He

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mashallah was a very good engineer, very humble man, a half

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Egyptian, half Palestinian, and he's working in America in this

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firm, he would refuse to go, he would refuse to go to the annual

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general meetings because they would serve wine in the annual

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general meetings. But he was an asset to the company. After about

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two, three years, he says his supervisor came to him and said to

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him, we'd like you to come to the annual general meeting this year,

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it's in, you know, a few weeks or whatever. He said, You know, he

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mentioned his name, he said, Paul, or whatever, you know, I can't

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come because as you know, I've got an issue I can't sit, you know,

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with with wine being served. And you know, what his supervisor

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tells him, as soon as it tells him that, you know, we've changed the

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policy this from this year, we're no longer we're no longer going to

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serve wine anymore in our annual general meetings. Now, if you

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think to yourself that, how can I do something I know, we're not

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hoping for miracles like this all the time. But what I'm trying to

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say is that if you are an asset, and you're a Muslim, at the same

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time, then you will be able to in people's minds link success to

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Islam, not failure to Islam, which the media is putting through,

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which basically, unfortunately, many of our people seem to be

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contributing towards as well around the world, a failure story,

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unfortunately, that's what's going on. I want to provide some

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optimism here, that the idea is that if you are in a good position

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in countries like Holland and England and Norway and America and

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other places where you have rights, where you can work in

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different fields, well educated Muslims are generally well

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educated, right? At least a second generation. Mashallah, right? I

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was just speaking to a brother, his father's a taxi driver, but he

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himself is a dentist, his brother's a doctor, his sister's a

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pediatrician. I think his other sister is a doctor as well. I

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mean, this means that we're gonna, we're gonna have some huge assets,

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right? We're going to have some huge assets, but that comes with

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responsibility. Are those huge assets? All this learning all this

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education? Is it going to just live the Western dream as such of,

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of this liberalism that do as you wish, do as you want? Forget your

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deen your tradition and so on and so forth? Or are you going to hold

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fast onto your deen and, and contribute? That's the difficulty.

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That's the difficulty. So what we have to do is we have to challenge

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assumptions in friendly discussions. Give you another

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example.

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One of the biggest things that we're dealing with today is that

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Muslims are violent people. So there's concepts of Muslim

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violence, Islamic violence, and so on and so forth. I guarantee you,

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every one of us is beaten with this stick all the time. Right. In

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fact, so many Muslims, I've actually started to believe that

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we have violent people, and they try to say, I'm not the one

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majority maybe but I'm not the one. It's become such a concept,

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such an ideology that's becoming so ingrained in people that it's

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even become ingrained in many wisdoms. They start using the same

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lingo. Now, let's let's look at some statistics here. The reason

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why we get beaten with this stick

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And people make us believe this is the case is because we don't know

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statistics. So if we take how many, let's give me an idea of how

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many Muslims exist in the world today. Okay? All right, the range

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is between 1.5 to 1.8 billion. That's the range. So let's take

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the lowest range 1.5 billion to make it easy. 1.5 not even

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1.8 1.5. How many Muslims have been incriminated on any kind of

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terrorism charge throughout the world?

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In the last, you know, 1015 years or whatever. Do you know what the

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percentage is? And when we say terrorism, I'd say take the

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broadest definition of terrorism, not not the most restrictive form,

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but take the broadest for anything that is you know that anybody

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labels terrorism, consider that out of 1.5 billion Muslims. How

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many Muslims throughout the world have been incriminated in any kind

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of terrorism charges? Do you know what that percentage is?

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Okay, Marshall, there's some seems to be some enlightened people here

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who are taking some either really good wild guesses, right? Or they

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know their statistics. Right? But basically what it is, is that

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maybe you're exaggerating a bit more, but 2.8 point 00 6%.

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Point 00 6%, not even 1%.

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So then, why do we are we led to believe that Muslims are the

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violent people? Why is it that when a Muslim does something, or

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tries to do something, or is caught with something

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incriminating, it becomes big news, but when others do it, it's

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just a small idea, a small write up a small article, a small

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mention,

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this is what it is because we are being led to believe the same

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thing. And this is very, this is very bad for our deen, because

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this takes people away from wanting to be Muslim, because then

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they start thinking Islam is violent, not just some Muslims.

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Yes, some Muslims are violent, they spoiled it for the rest of

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us. They think they're doing some great mission by going and killing

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a few innocent people here and there. And then for the rest of

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us, we get checked at airports, we get, you know, we get bullied, we

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get discriminated against the 1.51 point 8 billion Muslims then take

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the brunt of that force. And these people think that they've got some

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kind of shahada, and they've gone.

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That's the problem here. Now, let's take another quick example.

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Before I move on to another topic. They keep saying that Muslims

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don't speak out against terrorism. Nobody says, you know, nobody

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talks about terrorism. Nobody says we were against terrorism, they

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keep telling us that Subhanallah there's a non Muslim Professor

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Charles Kurzman. If you go on his website, search for Charles

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Kurzman.

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If I'm saying that name, right, K u r, Zed ma N, he's got the whole

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list of people who've, who voiced the you know, who voiced something

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against terrorism, including everything from Sheikh Yusuf al

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Qaradawi to the Mufti of Egypt to the Mufti of, of Saudi Arabia,

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right. And to Darwin, they were born in India, he's got

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everybody's name listed down there, a huge list of people. Now,

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if we're not aware of that, and we're challenged by this, Hey, how

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come you guys don't speak? You just think about your local imam

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in the masjid. But you should look at the big voices, and all of

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these things are there, okay? The main example?

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Muslims, they they're gonna say that Muslims justify the killing

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of innocent people. Now, let's say they obviously mentioned al Qaeda

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and bin Laden, etc. Maybe that's a bit of an old story right now,

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because they they came into Afghanistan and messed with the

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Taliban Taliban then became al Qaeda or the al Qaeda were

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created, then there was the whole thing against al Qaeda, then they

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created the Islamic so called State

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mashallah, and I get a smile at the end of it as well. Okay, that

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means,

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by the way, I'm Indian. And in places like this, you get a lot of

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things that are allowed for Indians that are generally not

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allowed for Moroccans or Turkish people. So I guess I think I can

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take a few more minutes.

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You just wasted another minute.

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Anyway.

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So let's just take they generally quote bin Laden's

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justification or argument for killing innocent people in

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American New York? What is the what is the argument? The argument

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is that because they voted for the government, they are also implicit

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in that regard. Now, again, that's sounds like an Islamic argument.

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Anybody who voted it's a democratic argument, really, at

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the end of the day, Sunday Sunday argument. However, you can argue

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about that all you want. somebody's done it already. Now,

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how would you argue this case? For example, if you keep abreast with

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these things, there is a very famous law professor at Harvard,

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right one of the top universities of America, whose name is Alan

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dosha pitch, he is very a great proponent of Israel and so on and

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so forth.

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When Israel bombed Gaza, you know, two years ago, three years ago,

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whenever it was recently, his idea, his argument for the

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justification of killing innocent people in which more innocent

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people who killed it and others, who said it's justified. Why?

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Because they voted for Hamas. They support Hamas. That's why isn't

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that the same argument that bin Laden so called used for killing

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innocent people in in America? If that's bad, isn't this bad? But

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no, this is a celebrated scholar who says,

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we have so many of these cases, we have so many of these inequalities

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in a sense, but unfortunately, liberalism is supposed to be a

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doctrine of tolerance. That's how it started. Because of the

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religious repression in Europe. Liberalism became the new

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ideology, right after a lot of hard work and a lot of a lot of

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oppression no doubt that there was a lot of oppression in Europe

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through the church. It's supposed to be a doctrine of tolerance. But

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however, today, unfortunately, liberalism has, how much is it

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willing to tolerate anything but itself, for example, it's becoming

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very coercive, it's becoming militant, in some ways, you must

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have such an such a curriculum, this is what we're dealing with in

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England, right, you must have such and such a curriculum, you must

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have this and that view, about alternative sexualities about

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gender, et cetera, et cetera, increasing number of boxes,

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Muslims having to tick tick wherever they go. And the whole

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idea and premise of liberalism was to open up people's horizons. But

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that's unfortunately not happening. We have to help this,

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we have to be proponents of this idea, in that sense, help people

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think about others, because it's a reality that we're going to live

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with a lot of Muslims are strange people around us. Now, there's

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another very interesting, you know, Europe's xenophobia against

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immigrants and different traditions. One of the arguments

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of where that comes from, is because of liberalism, and

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modernity, and postmodernity, where anything goes the old

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traditions of even Europe, Victorian England, Edwardian

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England, I don't know, the equator, the you know, the, the

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equivalent in, in Dutch, so, you know, forgive you for that. But

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all of those traditions of those times have gone, it's all about a

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bottomless endless possibilities. That's what liberalism is about,

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you can think and do whatever you want. It's a very fluid kind of

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system with no boundaries or ends. That's how you can make money out

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of thin air today, you know, because of the banking sector, the

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stock exchange, and so on and so forth. However, a lot of these

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people, they are base fitness, they sense

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a feeling of loss of their tradition of good old, maybe Dutch

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traditions or whatever it was that that had been replaced. And, you

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know, the only people that they see who are different is that

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Muslim that Turkish guy with that darkness, you know, I mean,

00:33:07 --> 00:33:10

subhanAllah you travel around Rotterdam, all you see is keep up,

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keep up. And you see his shawarma. And you see, what do you call it?

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I don't see I didn't see. But to be honest, I didn't see so much

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biryani, right. I just saw keep up and show Arman donor and this done

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and other hamdulillah but where's the where's the, you know, I still

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haven't had any Dutch food,

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you know, SubhanAllah. So it's really strange

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area that we're living in. So now to finish off, I'm going to have

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to really

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move on and finish this off.

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We have to really, really wizened up to these issues. Because

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this concept we're dealing with has no soul. Because it has no

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Osona no fundamentals, anything goes whatever, you know, whatever.

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Whatever goes. That's why to be honest, Muslims have a hard time

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dealing with this because Muslims believe in certain fundamentals,

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we believe in certain things which are black and white, in you know,

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there's a lot of gray matters well, but there's a lot of black

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and whites, And subhanAllah many of the things which are considered

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to be orthodox positions that are accepted in our liberal societies

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today, in another 50 to 100 years, those may become outrageous,

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that's the way things are moving with everything that we see around

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us, you know, technology, ideology, everything. It's a very

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hard task for Muslims to deal with these things and to maintain their

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faith. That's why in the two minutes that I've got to finish

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off, I just want to mention one final inshallah positive note

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because we need a heart that will be able to stay with Allah

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subhanaw taala because we may lose everything of this world and I

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don't say it's that bad. Inshallah, right, we've still got

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a lot of things, and I'm very hopeful, but we must have a

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connection with Allah subhanaw taala. And in that regard, I just

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want to leave you with five very, very, very, very simple

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Little things that if you do on a daily basis, then inshallah you

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will remain strong inside your hope and your trust in Allah will

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remain. And in sha Allah you will feel at least not depressed and

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you will feel very hopeful. First and foremost 100 is still far in

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the morning and evening. I know this is going from academic

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talking to like some aspect of spirituality. But this is because

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we are spiritual beings, right we have a connection with Allah 100

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So far in the morning and evening. The benefit of this is that if

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whatever we've done wrong in the daytime will be forgiven if we do

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the 100 is take part in the evening stuff with Allah Hara beam

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equilibrium we wanted to but then in the morning we do another 100

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So everything from the nighttime that gets forgiven. So now we're

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forgiven and pure Insha Allah, then we need some baraka and

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blessing. So we do number 200 salawat and Rasulullah sallallahu

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alayhi salam Allahumma salli ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa early so you

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dinner Mohamed El verde crystal Lim 100 times morning and times

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evening. The benefit of that is you get some blessing, you get

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baraka and we need baraka and blessing one by one blessing from

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ALLAH is sufficient, so we get 100 That's wonderful. Number three

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Quran if you can only read half a page a day or one page a day Hello

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has no problem but read at least that much a day where they be on

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your phone or somewhere else read at least that much whether you're

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in the tram on transit wherever you're going, make that a habit

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number three, number four. Number four, spend some time with Allah

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every day. That means just private time with Allah. Unfortunately,

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our salads were very distracted in our salah, even those of us who

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are pray, who pray we Allahu Akbar, and then we go on automatic

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pilot As salam o aleikum wa rahmatullah you have arrived.

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Right? So we spend five to 10 minutes in just thinking about

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Allah, one very simple way to do that, sit in a quiet place, head

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down, close your eyes. Imagine that Allah has Rama and mercy is

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coming down on your heart because his mercy is everywhere. Imagine

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you're attracting it to your heart. And then you're, it's, it's

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dealing with all of the darkness of our hearts. And then our heart

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just begins to say, hola, hola, hola. And that we just thinking

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about Allah with our heart, not with our tongue, just, you know,

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really just think about Allah for five to 10 minutes, this will be

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very, very powerful. And number five, the last one, so 100 is too

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far, seeking forgiveness 100, the Salawat and Rasulullah sallallahu

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alayhi salam, one page of the Quran number five was this

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meditation or Morocco or whatever you want to call it vicar of the

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heart. And number five, at least once a week, go and attend any

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kind of spiritual gathering that makes you closer to Allah. Not a

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not a Isaac MSA gathering or group gathering or discussion but

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something that takes you close to Allah and today you have YouTube,

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right? With all the crazy stuff on YouTube, there's some really good

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stuff on YouTube, you can have any shape that you want, he's at your

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bidding, you can make him faster, you can make him slower, you can

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stop him, you know, you can change him just Subhanallah so whatever,

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whatever gives you that spiritual boost, you need spiritual not

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talking about a fit classes are important. I've seen classes are

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important. But we need something that that incorporates within. So

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if there's a tough C class that's also spiritual, then take that

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one. I leave us with this. I leave us with this. My time is up. But I

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am really really, really thankful to our brothers and sisters of

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this of the towhead group. All the other speakers and of course all

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of you who have taken this time out on a very valuable Sunday,

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Sunday is a very valuable that people do all sorts of things on

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Sunday for you to come here and do this. May Allah allow all of your

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other chores and responsibilities to be fulfilled as well with

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Baraka because you spend some time for the sake of Allah subhanaw

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taala make us Allah allow us all to be turned away from here

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forgiven and inspired and in sha Allah, better people who will who

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will will do something for the Ummah who will be accepted with

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Kabuli inshallah for the OMA May Allah accept all of us working

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with that Alana and Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen

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