Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Can we pray jumu’ah before its beginning time

Smilla rahmanir rahim.

This is a question that comes up quite frequently, especially

because when you're at university, you have certain times when you

can pray. Normally there's a default lunchtime between 12 and

one o'clock, which normally works, it works in winter. But when it

comes to summer, it becomes more problematic because a lot in this

country and many other places in the world comes in after one

o'clock. So what do you do? I mean, number one, I as far as I

understand, it's actually supposed to be a right, a religious right

for you to be able to take off to make your Juma prayer. But there's

also other ways of doing it. Aside from the fact that the salah time

will come in late in summer, it also stays for longer, so the time

of the Lord will actually stay for longer. So you've got more

flexibility, because you might have a class, you might have a one

and a half hour session or something starting at one o'clock,

but then you know, you could pray at 230, you could pray at three

o'clock. One of the issues that we're having in one place, for

example, is that the people who are in charge of the MSA or the

Isaac as such, they are insisting that everybody there follow the

one opinion that's available with regards to concession of making

Joomla before the time of the hire actually arrives on Friday. That

is an opinion in the humbly school, but it's only in the

humbly school. It's a minority opinion. The Shafia is Hana fees,

and Maliki's don't agree with that opinion. Allah subhanaw taala says

in the Quran, in the Salah to granite island, Marina Kitab and

Mahkota that very solid is prescribed or legislated

in very specific, specific times or specified times. And thus a

salad should remain in its time, especially in this case, where

it's only a minority opinion that allows it to be performed before

the Zavala such or before the sun moves from its zenith or Meridian

at noon. Because that's when a lot of time comes in. But in the

humbly school it's allowed before that. But you cannot impose that

everybody I mean, it's okay for those who want to follow the

humbly school or the humbly opinion. But you can't really

insist that everybody else actually follow that as as you

know, by force. They want to that's their problem, but you

can't force it. So those who follow other schools of thought,

it's also very demoralizing for them to kind of feel that we are

being forced by our MSA leaders or Isaac lead leaders to pray earlier

than it's time. It's not valid for us. I mean, can you imagine living

with that week in and week out throughout the summer, it's just

very demoralizing. That's why I think people need to be very open

minded about this, if you've been put in a position of authority,

then there is something which is considered a desire to love edible

FDLR for the Ayatollah enough, which is that you go with the more

stricter opinion so that it's big, the worship actually becomes

permissible, according to all. So what I would suggest in that is,

is that you actually delay the Juma prayer to a time when it's

comfortably permissible, possible and permissible for all of your

congregants to perform. Because for those who think it's

permissible to pray, according to the humblest could be, first of

all, before the moon, the sun moves from its meridian, clearly

it's going to be permissible to for them to pray at the time

itself at three o'clock, for example. But if you think that

that's difficult, and you won't get enough of a turnout and

enough, you know, there will also be people who won't be able to

pray at that time. Well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with

having to do more press than because for those who time doesn't

enter for 12 o'clock to one o'clock, they're not allowed to

pray at that time. And you can't, you know, nobody can really force

them to do it, because it's just not in their field to do that. And

you can't force them to come out of their field, especially when

they can pray it afterwards. So there is nothing wrong. And it's

not disunity. Unity, and disunity is something of the mind. You

know, we're all different in terms of different ethnic backgrounds,

different languages, different food choices, so on and so forth.

But if you don't, don't make that a point of difference, and if you

don't make that something significant, there's nothing wrong

with it. So I think those if it's impossible, or improper, very

difficult to actually make the salad later on. And everybody

gathered together in a time when it's permissible for everybody and

valid for everybody, then if you can't do that, then allow that to

be to join us. And there should be nothing wrong with that. We've had

cases. I mean, I know the case in South Africa, where you had a chef

at your congregation, you had a Hanafy congregation, and they

would have to withdraw solids, but there was nothing wrong with it.

In fact, they would each celebrate each other about it there would be

absolutely nothing wrong with it. Then they got an imam who was very

strict and who said no, you should you should just have one and he

forced the chef is to pray according to the Hanafi way which

is three records consecutively without a Salaam in between. And

for all of these years 20 3040 years that they've been praying

without a problem. Separate witters Tara we will be together

then winter

wouldn't be separate one after the other. I can't remember the exact

details of it. But when they were forced to pray together that

started causing disunity. So although there was external unity

as such, in the in the Salah that was being performed, there was

actually internal disunity that was being created, really

something from the heart. And people have misunderstood this.

And what people are really doing here is trying to impose their

minority opinion on everybody else, which is wrong. And you just

can't do that, because it's very demoralizing. If it's any other

solid. Well, you've got enough time to pray. The problem with

Joomla is that you have to make it in congregation. So try to make it

so that everybody's happy about it, that everybody's happy about

it, then you'll you'll get more unity unity comes when people are

happy about the way they do things, even if they do think

separately. And one must understand that otherwise, this

argument about unity, distant external, external unity and

disunity that that could provide many other things and cause many

other problems. So hopefully that's understood that in the in

the Hanafi, Maliki and Shafi opinions Joomla time does not

enter into thorough time enters even on Friday and it's not valid

to perform it beforehand. That is an opinion that humbly school but

if you look at the representation here, the humbly school has the

smallest representation to start with. There's more Shafi is more

Malik isn't more Hanafi is proportionately speaking anyway.

So it's a very minority opinion, it's a later opinion to minority

opinion. And thus, I don't think you can impose that on anybody.

But as I said, unity is is important and the way of unity is

that let everybody do it the way they want and they can be happy

with each other about it and you can still continue to do other

programs together. So may Allah subhanaw taala give us insight.

May Allah subhanaw taala allow us to overcome these problems. And

may Allah subhanaw taala guide us all, just like Allah here