Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Can we pray jumu’ah before its beginning time
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The speakers discuss the importance of praying during the summer and the difficulty of obtaining it. They suggest allowing people to pray at a time when it's safe, and stress the importance of not forceing others to pray at certain times. They also mention a recent incident where a chef was forced to pray without a problem, but it was a later opinion and caused disunity. The speakers emphasize the importance of unity in their approach to praying and encourage individuals to allow others to pray in a appealing way.
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Smilla rahmanir rahim.
This is a question that comes up quite frequently, especially
because when you're at university, you have certain times when you
can pray. Normally there's a default lunchtime between 12 and
one o'clock, which normally works, it works in winter. But when it
comes to summer, it becomes more problematic because a lot in this
country and many other places in the world comes in after one
o'clock. So what do you do? I mean, number one, I as far as I
understand, it's actually supposed to be a right, a religious right
for you to be able to take off to make your Juma prayer. But there's
also other ways of doing it. Aside from the fact that the salah time
will come in late in summer, it also stays for longer, so the time
of the Lord will actually stay for longer. So you've got more
flexibility, because you might have a class, you might have a one
and a half hour session or something starting at one o'clock,
but then you know, you could pray at 230, you could pray at three
o'clock. One of the issues that we're having in one place, for
example, is that the people who are in charge of the MSA or the
Isaac as such, they are insisting that everybody there follow the
one opinion that's available with regards to concession of making
Joomla before the time of the hire actually arrives on Friday. That
is an opinion in the humbly school, but it's only in the
humbly school. It's a minority opinion. The Shafia is Hana fees,
and Maliki's don't agree with that opinion. Allah subhanaw taala says
in the Quran, in the Salah to granite island, Marina Kitab and
Mahkota that very solid is prescribed or legislated
in very specific, specific times or specified times. And thus a
salad should remain in its time, especially in this case, where
it's only a minority opinion that allows it to be performed before
the Zavala such or before the sun moves from its zenith or Meridian
at noon. Because that's when a lot of time comes in. But in the
humbly school it's allowed before that. But you cannot impose that
everybody I mean, it's okay for those who want to follow the
humbly school or the humbly opinion. But you can't really
insist that everybody else actually follow that as as you
know, by force. They want to that's their problem, but you
can't force it. So those who follow other schools of thought,
it's also very demoralizing for them to kind of feel that we are
being forced by our MSA leaders or Isaac lead leaders to pray earlier
than it's time. It's not valid for us. I mean, can you imagine living
with that week in and week out throughout the summer, it's just
very demoralizing. That's why I think people need to be very open
minded about this, if you've been put in a position of authority,
then there is something which is considered a desire to love edible
FDLR for the Ayatollah enough, which is that you go with the more
stricter opinion so that it's big, the worship actually becomes
permissible, according to all. So what I would suggest in that is,
is that you actually delay the Juma prayer to a time when it's
comfortably permissible, possible and permissible for all of your
congregants to perform. Because for those who think it's
permissible to pray, according to the humblest could be, first of
all, before the moon, the sun moves from its meridian, clearly
it's going to be permissible to for them to pray at the time
itself at three o'clock, for example. But if you think that
that's difficult, and you won't get enough of a turnout and
enough, you know, there will also be people who won't be able to
pray at that time. Well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with
having to do more press than because for those who time doesn't
enter for 12 o'clock to one o'clock, they're not allowed to
pray at that time. And you can't, you know, nobody can really force
them to do it, because it's just not in their field to do that. And
you can't force them to come out of their field, especially when
they can pray it afterwards. So there is nothing wrong. And it's
not disunity. Unity, and disunity is something of the mind. You
know, we're all different in terms of different ethnic backgrounds,
different languages, different food choices, so on and so forth.
But if you don't, don't make that a point of difference, and if you
don't make that something significant, there's nothing wrong
with it. So I think those if it's impossible, or improper, very
difficult to actually make the salad later on. And everybody
gathered together in a time when it's permissible for everybody and
valid for everybody, then if you can't do that, then allow that to
be to join us. And there should be nothing wrong with that. We've had
cases. I mean, I know the case in South Africa, where you had a chef
at your congregation, you had a Hanafy congregation, and they
would have to withdraw solids, but there was nothing wrong with it.
In fact, they would each celebrate each other about it there would be
absolutely nothing wrong with it. Then they got an imam who was very
strict and who said no, you should you should just have one and he
forced the chef is to pray according to the Hanafi way which
is three records consecutively without a Salaam in between. And
for all of these years 20 3040 years that they've been praying
without a problem. Separate witters Tara we will be together
then winter
wouldn't be separate one after the other. I can't remember the exact
details of it. But when they were forced to pray together that
started causing disunity. So although there was external unity
as such, in the in the Salah that was being performed, there was
actually internal disunity that was being created, really
something from the heart. And people have misunderstood this.
And what people are really doing here is trying to impose their
minority opinion on everybody else, which is wrong. And you just
can't do that, because it's very demoralizing. If it's any other
solid. Well, you've got enough time to pray. The problem with
Joomla is that you have to make it in congregation. So try to make it
so that everybody's happy about it, that everybody's happy about
it, then you'll you'll get more unity unity comes when people are
happy about the way they do things, even if they do think
separately. And one must understand that otherwise, this
argument about unity, distant external, external unity and
disunity that that could provide many other things and cause many
other problems. So hopefully that's understood that in the in
the Hanafi, Maliki and Shafi opinions Joomla time does not
enter into thorough time enters even on Friday and it's not valid
to perform it beforehand. That is an opinion that humbly school but
if you look at the representation here, the humbly school has the
smallest representation to start with. There's more Shafi is more
Malik isn't more Hanafi is proportionately speaking anyway.
So it's a very minority opinion, it's a later opinion to minority
opinion. And thus, I don't think you can impose that on anybody.
But as I said, unity is is important and the way of unity is
that let everybody do it the way they want and they can be happy
with each other about it and you can still continue to do other
programs together. So may Allah subhanaw taala give us insight.
May Allah subhanaw taala allow us to overcome these problems. And
may Allah subhanaw taala guide us all, just like Allah here