Abdullah Hakim Quick – Seerah Of Prophet Muhammad Muhammad #02 Idol Worship In Pre-Islamic Arabia

Abdullah Hakim Quick
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The speakers discuss the worship of the creator through idols and the preference of Christian kingdoms for those who want to worship it. They also touch on cultural and political aspects of Mecca, including the importance of religion and the lack of spirituality. The speaker emphasizes the importance of leadership and service in setting boundaries and creating a community within Mecca. The speaker also discusses the history and lineage of the prophet sallavi alaihi wa sallam and the lineage of the Mahdi, Hamar, and Hashemite.
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There was, for instance, in a particular tribe,

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a great teacher who taught them the belief

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in one God. And when he died,

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then people wanted to continue, you know, so

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they would talk about him. The next generation

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comes along and, would say, okay. Could you

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draw a picture of him or some sort

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Real minus of him. And then eventually, they

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would make a why why don't you make

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a statue of him so he can actually

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know how he looked? The next generation comes

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along and the only thing they have left

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Is the statue. Of this teacher is the

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statue, so they start to worship the statue.

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And many idol worshipers will tell you that,

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we're not just worshiping the idol. We're we're

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worshiping the creator through the idol.

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Shaha'Dalla.

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Welcome back.

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Very exciting time for us to talk about

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the seed of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa

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sallam. Today, I actually wanna

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get right into it, Bina Laha'u'llah,

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and let's talk. The last time we talked

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about Mecca, we talked about how he came

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about, we talked about,

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a little bit about the building of the

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Kaaba, but I kind of want to get

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into more details of that inshallahahu ta'ala.

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The prophet

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was a religious leader. He's the one who

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called people to an actual specific religion. What

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was the religion of the people, before the

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prophet came about?

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When you look at human beings, you will

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find that there's a natural

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belief in one God. And prophets were sent

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to all the nations and the tribes around

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the world.

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But there's a tendency for people to worship

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material things. Mhmm. And,

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it is a human weakness in the sense

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that you

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follow your senses, your taste, your smell, your

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sight, you know, your hearing. Yeah. And so

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sun worship was one of the biggest

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forms of worship in the ancient world

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and also idol worship.

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Now, places where people live near rivers,

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they would tend to worship the river itself.

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Places like in West Africa, they have this

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baobab tree. Mhmm. It has a very big

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base.

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They would worship this tree trees.

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In the desert itself,

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because you don't have a lot of physical

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objects in front of you, they would tend

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to move toward,

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sun worship

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or they would

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create their own

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idols.

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So literally, they would form structures

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because they didn't have the trucks structures like

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the baobab tree or Yeah. Or the great

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river or things like that. So they would

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form structures,

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and and they would worship to the sun

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through these structures.

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Or eventually, they would actually worship

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the structure itself.

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There are some,

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traditions that say that

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there was, for instance, in a particular tribe,

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a great teacher who taught them the belief

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in one god and when he died,

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then people wanted to continue, you know, so

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they would talk about him. The next generation

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comes along and, would say, okay. Could you

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draw a picture of him or some sort

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of him. And then eventually, they would make

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a why don't you make a statue of

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him so he can actually know

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how he looked? The next generation comes along,

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and the only thing they have left Is

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the statue. Teacher is the statue, so they

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start to worship the statue.

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And many idol worshipers will tell you that,

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we're not just worshiping the idol, we're we're

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worshiping the creator through the idols,

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And that's shirk.

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Mhmm. So that is when you associate partners

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with God.

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You do believe in a in a in

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a an eternal being. And the word Allah,

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the concept of Allah was amongst the Arabs.

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But they went through the different,

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idols

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and the demigods that they had in order

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to get,

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to the creator and that is classical,

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polytheism. So even though,

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the Kaaba itself was established by prophet Ibrahim

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alaihi salam for the belief in one God,

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with this generational weakness that people have,

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they went back into this idol worship

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in order to deal with the different issues

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facing them. So that's just in in modern

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in in Arabia, really, is really what you're

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talking about. Can we talk a little bit

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more about, I guess, really outside of Arabia

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now at this point? So I guess, really,

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in Arabia, they they worship idols.

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How about,

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the Christian kingdoms? How about the those kingdoms

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that were surrounding the Arabia? Like, did they

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know about, did the Arabs know about Christianity?

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Did they know about Judaism? Did they know

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about,

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Persians, for instance, and how they worshiped and

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so on? Yeah. Well, the Arabs who traveled

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north,

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and did business with the, Byzantines, with the

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Romans and the Greeks Yeah. They came in

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contact with Christianity because we recognize the fact

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that in 325

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AD,

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Constantine,

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who was the Roman,

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emperor.

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Okay? The power of Rome shifted from Italy

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to Constantinople.

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And Constantine brought the bishops together.

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In 325,

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they put together the modern day bible. They

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chose the trinity as their belief, and they

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began to spread this with Roman power. Mhmm.

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So the Roman missionaries went all the way

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up the Nile,

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and they reached Ethiopia.

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All that region there in Africa, they they

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were in different places.

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And the remnants of those Christians who did

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not

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accept the trinity,

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they also hid and ran away to different

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parts of the world. So therefore, the Arabs

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who were in the middle and, you know,

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they would

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they had some contact,

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you know, with the main trinitarians

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of the Byzantines. Yeah. But they also met

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Christians

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who believed in one god.

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So there was no unified teachings

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that, that they had at that time, but

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they had come in contact with them. What

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did they How did how did they think

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of them? Did they think highly of them?

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Like, did the Arabs think highly of Christians,

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or did they just thought that they were

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they were crazy, that they were just worshiping?

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Like, I I kind of want to know

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the perception of how the Arabs saw

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those people of of the book who came

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before the prophet because that's really important on

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how they accepted the prophet himself. Right? Well,

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we we we have to recognize the fact

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that,

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communication was very weak at the time. Yeah.

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So the Arabs living in the Arabian Peninsula

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did not have that much of an understanding

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of what Rome actually was.

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They did not have that much of an

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understanding of Persia itself.

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Now the Arabs who who went on the

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on the peripheries, on the borders,

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they came in more contact,

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you know, with Rome and Persia,

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and and with Ethiopia. But in the center,

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they looked at them as

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foreigners,

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who are coming from different lands, people do

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business with. Yeah.

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They had their own beliefs, but they didn't

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really give much prominence,

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to it. We don't have written literature,

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you know, from amongst it. And from the

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oral literature,

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that has come in the poetry

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that there's not much,

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discussion about Christianity itself,

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you know,

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as a way of life. Yeah. Because we

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do know that, like, you have certain Arab

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tribes that, you know, the Hassan, for instance,

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those are the ones that lived in there.

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They were actually Christians, right, for for a

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long long even during the times that the

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prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, just when they

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came and visited him. Right?

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That,

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so that's why I was kind of just

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wondering, how how at that time okay.

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Okay. So that's how they worshiped Sheikh.

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So clearly then, I guess, at that time,

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there was,

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I guess, clear

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freedom of worship, if you if I wanna

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say if I if I can even say

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that. Right? Because people worship whatever they want

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to worship. Even if you want to make

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your own god,

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you would do it.

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What was religion like, what was the importance

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of religion itself as an actual thing to

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do for for human beings?

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In the Arabian Peninsula, especially in Mecca and

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Hejaz area,

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religion is tied with economics.

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Mhmm. Because Mecca itself

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was not only a religious center,

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where the people put their idols because,

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the Kaaba eventually had 360 idols put in

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it. People would take a stone even from

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Mecca or the Kaaba area, take it back

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to their village and make an idol out

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of it. Mhmm.

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But they would also do business.

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So so religion was connected to their business.

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We couldn't say that they had much spirituality

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in the sense. Yeah. They didn't really care.

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They figured you live and you die and,

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you know, it's based on power. Yeah. We

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don't really get much spirituality

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coming from,

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the people, you know, living in in the

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center of Arabia. Yeah. But again, the peripheries,

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the people on the peripheries,

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they did come in contact with other nations,

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and they started to change Yeah. To the

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point where

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just before the time of prophet Muhammad,

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there were people called the Hanif, the Hunaf.

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So these were people who were not idol

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worshipers.

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They believed in 1 God.

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They were not mainstream Christians. They were not

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Jews. They believed in 1 God.

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And,

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but they didn't have an actual identity itself.

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You also have in the south, in the

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Yemen because because of Yemen being in the

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south and the trade

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routes. At some points, they were conquered by

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the Persians. Mhmm. And there is discussion about,

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a a Jewish king,

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you know, who took over in the Yemen

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area. So Judaism was there. And then the

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the Christianity

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of the the Ethiopians,

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came across.

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So down in the south,

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there was contact that's different than in in

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Arabia. But because of the lack of communications,

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what goes on in Yemen,

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doesn't affect the people Yeah. Really in the

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center of Arabia.

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Maybe every 2, 3 years, you you get

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some information,

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you know, about what happens,

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in the Yemen. But they didn't have direct

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contact. Yeah. But generally, people were actually, I

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guess, really then you would say open to

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new ideas, open to challenges to their own

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religion and so on. I think this is

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important to actually set because when the prophet

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came and talked about a religion, this wasn't

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a new thing to them. It wasn't like

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we've never heard of a prophet before. Right?

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They actually kind of this before. Okay. This

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is really wonderful.

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So, that's, I guess, really the story of

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Mecca and how it became a major hub.

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I guess, the next thing that I want

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to talk about is

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the style of leadership within Quraish itself. How

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did they there's a society itself. How did

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they rule each other? How did they,

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work with one another? What what what I

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mean, just just generally, how how do they

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live as a society within Mecca? Generally speaking,

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when we look at Mecca and again the

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nobility which is coming out of the family

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of Ishmael alaihi salam, you know, who had

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a number of sons. He had like, you

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know, 12 sons, 10, 12 sons.

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You know? So from his family and then

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Jeroham,

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you know, and and the other tribes, because

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there were other Arabel Araba from the Yemen

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who were coming into Mecca as well. Mhmm.

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And you even have struggle that goes on

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between the different tribes of the Arabel Araba.

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So so so it is within this milieu,

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this

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mixture of people that the Quresh,

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took the leadership.

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And one of the descendants of Ismail in

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particular, whose name was Kosei. Mhmm. And, Cosei,

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was a very organized

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type of person.

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So he actually developed,

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ministries

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where where he would give ministries for

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feeding people, for giving water,

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you know, military,

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political.

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So he he sort of set ministries there,

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which is the basis of our organized,

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society.

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And then, you know, it it is through

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his,

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descendants,

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that these

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ministries,

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started to actually take fall.

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And out of Husay's sons,

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you see different people who are ruling,

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the ministries.

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It's a long complicated story, but basically,

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his one of his sons, Abdou Manaf,

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he was able to

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seize authority

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and to be one of the major,

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if not the major leader,

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in

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Mecca at the time,

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and he

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especially

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was in charge of,

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feeding pilgrims

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and giving water.

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And, obviously, when you're in a desert,

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water and food is one of the most

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important thing,

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in life. It's more important than clothing or

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anything like that. You have to survive. So

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Abdu Manaf

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really, you know, organized,

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himself and that leadership that was coming from,

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you know, Pusse coming from the Quresh because

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this is all part of the Quresh lineage.

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Yeah. They are the prominent people,

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you know, who are in charge of the

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leadership.

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You have the the the masses of the

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people who are there,

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but the ones who control the ministries

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are coming from

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the the the Quraysh,

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coming from Abdul Manaf's family.

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They even struggle with each other.

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Some of them, and Abdul Uzzah, they know

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that they struggle with Abdul Manaf. Yeah. You

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know, overpowered. Even prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa

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sallam even witnessed the struggle that went on,

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you know, between

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the different,

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families of Quresh or sections of Quresh

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that that were were power groups because they

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were controlling ministries.

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Mhmm. So so this really, Sheikh. Sorry, Sheikh.

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So you you seems to me like you're

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describing,

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a leadership style that

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is in the service of the people. Right?

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Like, not

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like like, I mean, these guys, they didn't

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tax people. They didn't do any any of

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these things. The leadership was actually a position

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of,

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service. Like, you if you're the leader, then

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you have to feed the people. If you're

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the leader, then you have to, you know,

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you're responsible for the sub day. Right? If

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you're the leader, you're responsible for the cleaning

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of the,

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of the And I kind of just want

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to really, I guess, really kind of unpack

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that a little bit about the style of

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leadership, right? Because when we talk about, the

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prophet's family, for instance, we know that they

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were noble, respected

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families, but they weren't rich. Right? Like, that

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wasn't a thing that they were actually talking.

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So if you could just talk a little

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bit about that, Shifan, so we can kind

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of get a better understanding of what these,

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what what they saw at that time. Well,

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this is important because when you look at

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the different,

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areas of leadership Yeah. Whether it be the

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the the the water, the water, or feeding,

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or whether it was a, was it was

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the political leadership, Liwa Yeah. Which is really

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military leadership.

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It sort of shapes personalities.

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And so and so the people who control

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the political leadership

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and the military leadership,

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they ruled more with power and fear.

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But the people who control the water and

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the feeding,

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they would be they would be loved by

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by the masses of the people. Oh, yeah.

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And that is where,

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the great descendant,

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of Ishmael

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coming out of Abdul Manaf,

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that is his son Hashem

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where Hashem comes in. Hashem is a key

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individual

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because he took over,

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as the leader of

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the the the feeding, you know, of of

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the people giving water. And because of this

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and something within his personality, some even say

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there was something about the look,

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you know, of this particular son and and

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his descendants.

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People gravitated toward them. Mhmm. So he was

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really,

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the first to establish

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organized

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trade routes from north to south.

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Okay? So this very important thing that, you

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know, that he did, it was there before

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from time immemorial. But he really organized it,

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and he really made it a key part

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of of the economics, you know, of,

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Mecca itself. And so he was he was

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beloved by the people. He eventually,

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went north.

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He married a woman, Salma, you know, from

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Yasserib was was Medina. And then surprisingly enough,

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he died in Gaza.

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So that's how important Gaza is to us.

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You can never forget Gaza. Mhmm. So he

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actually died, up there, you know, in that

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area on the coast. He was doing his

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trade.

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Mhmm. Okay? And so this is how that

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connection was there. And these are very important

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points because,

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the younger our younger generation has to make

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the connection

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between what is happening in Palestine today,

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in Gaza, other parts. You have to connect

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it directly with our history, with sira, with

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the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, so that these

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places, no matter what happens to them physically,

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they will never be forgotten

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because they are a key part of our

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history

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and a key part, of the lineage

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of our beloved prophet Muhammad, sallallahu alaihi wa

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sallam. These are the things that unite us

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as Muslims. I think it's really important to

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also note that that the name Hashim,

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is really basically the actual the the the

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family name of the prophet, you know, they're

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considered Banu Hashim.

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But I also just want to mention, I

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don't know why I thought of this, but

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the name Hashim itself means the one who

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breaks food. Right? Like, that's the actual name.

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So, he was the one who anybody would

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depend on for food, right, if they actually

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knew him? Yeah. So this is a very

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important point. Because, again, you know, he he's

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breaking up the food and making Yeah. You

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know, porridge or whatnot. Hamar. His name was

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Hamar, actually. Yeah. Hisself. But then he takes

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on that name, and and and Hashem is

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important.

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If you get a Jordanian passport, it says

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the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. That's right. If

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you are a king in Morocco,

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you say that you're, you know, a Hashemite.

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Mhmm. The Ayatollahs

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in Iran that wear black turbans,

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they claim to be Hashemites. Yep.

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The Mahdi

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that we believe will come at the end

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of time, you know, will be coming from

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Enu Hashim. From Enu Hashim. I mean, so

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this is very important concepts that we link,

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these together with what is happening to us

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today. And I think it's also important, Shafa,

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to to to understand the fact that these

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are, like, were noble men. But, again, I

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just wanna press on that point. They're considered

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noblemen based on the service that they were

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giving to the community as opposed to,

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the way that they were ruling with tyranny

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or the way that they because they didn't

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have it. They didn't have armies. They didn't

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they were just families, basically. And, obviously,

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the larger the family, the more the more

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you'll have of it. Okay. So, this is

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really actually important. Jazakulokel. This is the lineage

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of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. Next

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time, inshallah, we'll get into more deeper, discussion.

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