Abdullah al Andalusi – UK TV show attacks Muslims for being anti-British values but gets EXPOSED by Muslim guest in the end

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The conversation covers Nigel Farage's comments on Muslim voters not subscribing to British values and the rise of fascism in the political climate. The speakers also discuss the rise of anti- admission movement and the confusion surrounding the anti- admission movement. The discussion touches on the issue of protecting religious sensitivities and the use of "we" in media. The speakers express concern about the negative consequences of the new President and recent protests, and encourage those who are unable to attend demonstrations to bring their evidence. They emphasize the importance of privacy and privacy for citizens.

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			Welcome back now at the start of the
		
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			show. We ask you, was Nigel Farage right
		
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			to say Muslim voters don't share Britain's values?
		
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			Well, here's what he had to say. William
		
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			tells us, I totally agree with Nigel.
		
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			We are losing our country and fast. And
		
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			Mick says this. Maja Faraj is stating what
		
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			most people believe. There are thousands of British
		
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			Muslims who do not subscribe to our values.
		
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			Speaking the truth is not allowed anymore
		
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			in this woke country. And another viewer adds
		
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			this.
		
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			I think it's a loud vocal minority that
		
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			caused the most shouting over this, and most
		
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			people here are
		
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			peaceful
		
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			and tolerant. Now before the break, we were
		
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			hearing from Nigel Farage
		
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			following his comments about parts of the Muslim
		
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			population not subscribing
		
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			to British values. He said there was a
		
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			deep sense of unease, and here's a stark
		
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			warning
		
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			Nigel gave when he spoke to me just
		
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			a few moments ago.
		
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			Fact is, I mean I mean, goodness me,
		
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			on this channel, the number of Muslim lawyers,
		
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			business people that we have on talking about
		
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			things that have got their own private observance
		
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			of religion but are fully integrated part of
		
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			the community. And you can see this with
		
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			the Jewish community. You can see it with
		
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			the Hindu community.
		
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			You know, where where people have different origins
		
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			and faiths but
		
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			we have commonality and we all get on.
		
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			This is a particular problem
		
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			in Islam.
		
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			You know, it is a minority but it's
		
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			a growing minority.
		
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			And if we don't talk about it,
		
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			we're gonna finish up with sectarian politics with
		
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			people voting along religious lines in a very
		
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			big way. And I know I'm old enough
		
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			to remember what sectarian policies did in Northern
		
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			Ireland. I don't wanna see anything like that
		
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			in England.
		
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			K. It's time for debate on this now,
		
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			and joining me in the studio to debate
		
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			night's explosive interview as the media commentator Rafe
		
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			Hadel Mankou and also Abdullah Al Andalusia, the
		
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			cofounder of the Muslim debate initiative. Let's start
		
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			with you, Ab Abdullah.
		
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			So,
		
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			the cat's been perminous of pigeons once again
		
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			by Nigel Farage. A lot of people saying,
		
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			his comments were horribly Islamophobic
		
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			and racist. Would you agree with that?
		
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			I would say that, many people have described
		
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			what he said as, race baiting or religious
		
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			baiting
		
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			because most people who are Muslim in this
		
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			country,
		
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			were from immigrant background or recent immigrant backgrounds,
		
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			and so they are convenient target.
		
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			150 years ago, Oswald Mosley, a Nigel Farage
		
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			of his time, one might argue, for the
		
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			British Union fascists argued that Jews were a
		
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			problem in this country and that there was
		
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			a large population who weren't assimilating or didn't
		
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			follow British values. So here we are, in
		
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			somewhat repeating history, again with this. And the
		
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			one most dangerous things I I noticed from
		
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			Nigel Farage's comments was he was criticizing,
		
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			anti genocide, anti apartheid protest in Palestine.
		
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			Is it British values then? If if they
		
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			are the ones who are meant to be
		
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			against British values, is Nigel Farage saying that
		
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			to be British is to be supporting genocide
		
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			and apartheid? Well well, hang on. I think
		
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			that's that's very worrying. The the anti semitism,
		
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			the rise of fascism on British streets, it
		
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			isn't coming from people like Nigel Farage. It's
		
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			coming from the Islamists.
		
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			Well, fascism is to is to say that
		
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			the country is more important than, individual rights
		
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			or or and so on. So anyone who
		
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			says that this country should come first beyond,
		
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			people's individual rights or freedoms is by definition
		
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			or the state should come first is by
		
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			definition of fascist. So that wouldn't apply. Secondly,
		
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			anti semitism
		
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			show 1 just show one clip of someone
		
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			attacking all Jews,
		
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			insulting Jews, or inciting people to to hate
		
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			Jews in any one of these demonstrations. We
		
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			all hear a lot of rhetoric. Somebody said,
		
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			guess the Jews. Somebody's wearing a Hamas sign.
		
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			Children dressed, dressed as fancy dress. Hamas, terrorists.
		
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			We have then we have to see the
		
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			video show the video where someone said gas
		
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			to Jews. Right? Because I because I would
		
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			equally condemn that like anyone else here. This
		
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			is that would be abhorrent, but we haven't
		
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			seen any evidence. All we hear It's not
		
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			that it happened on days. Rumors with rumors.
		
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			It's not rumors. It's that. Everything here is
		
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			crystal clear. Then show the video. Well, we
		
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			are glad to see the video. You can
		
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			Google it. Ravehael or Mankook. Do you wanna
		
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			counter this? Yeah. Well, I mean, look. It
		
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			goes without saying that the majority of Muslims
		
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			in this country are well integrated and adjusted,
		
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			and that should be celebrated. But people constantly
		
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			say, oh, it's a small minority who are
		
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			like this. It's not. It's a very
		
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			sizable minority of the Muslim population of this
		
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			country hold views,
		
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			attitudes, and beliefs that run contrary completely contrary
		
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			to our civilization
		
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			and our culture. And it's not getting better.
		
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			People used to say, oh, well, this is
		
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			just first immigration Muslims. Their children and grandchildren
		
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			were very different. On the contrary, it's the
		
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			children today who hold far more radical views
		
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			than their parents or grandparents.
		
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			I mean, you know, there was one poll
		
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			done by the, policy exchange that showed this
		
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			is quite unbelievable.
		
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			1 third of young British Muslims aged 16
		
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			to 24 believe
		
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			ex Muslims should be put to death for
		
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			apostasy. This is quite amazing.
		
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			A majority of British Muslims believe that homosexuality
		
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			should be illegal compared to 5%
		
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			of the broader population.
		
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			3 quarters of British Muslims in this last
		
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			poll do not believe that Hamas committed murder
		
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			and *
		
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			on October 7th. Now you might think that's
		
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			that's a bizarre thing for them to believe,
		
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			but actually, it's in keeping with previous polls.
		
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			31
		
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			percent of British Muslims believe that America was
		
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			behind,
		
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			9 11.
		
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			7% believe it was the Jews. Only 4%
		
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			believe it was Al Qaeda, which, of course,
		
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			we know. More Muslims also believe that Diana
		
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			was killed because she wanted to marry a
		
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			Muslim than believe she was killed in an
		
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			accident. Now those are just the most bizarre
		
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			things. But then you go you look further
		
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			and you and you see that 62% of
		
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			Muslims want to restrict free speech in order
		
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			to protect
		
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			religious sensitivities.
		
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			52%
		
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			believe that there should be no picture of
		
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			Mohammed shown.
		
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			Every gauge you look at,
		
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			most scarily, 9% of British Muslims, 400,000
		
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			people identify
		
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			as being Islamists
		
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			and supporters of terrorism,
		
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			and 15%
		
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			sympathize with terrorism
		
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			compared to compared
		
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			to 6%
		
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			in in in France and Germany. And 81
		
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			percent 81 percent of British Muslims identify as
		
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			Muslim first and British second, whereas it's only
		
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			66%
		
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			in Germany, and it's only 46%
		
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			in France. We have a real issue here
		
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			which we need to address, and we can't
		
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			keep covering these things up. Abdulla, that's a
		
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			barrage of data. How do you respond to
		
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			that? Okay. Yeah. And in this very same
		
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			poll,
		
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			twice as many,
		
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			the non Muslim public, British public that was
		
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			polled were likely to support ISIS than Muslims.
		
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			That's in the that's in the same poll.
		
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			Right? These are 5 poll. We're talking about
		
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			the one you referenced. So in this poll,
		
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			you get some very weird data coming out,
		
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			but that that's beside the point. The point
		
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			is that, Muslims, if you ask some religious
		
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			Jews who have very similar laws and beliefs
		
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			to Muslims, will say very much the same
		
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			thing. They're going to say they're Jewish first
		
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			and maybe British second. It's a big debate
		
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			amongst Jews. Fraud is kind of fraud for
		
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			many decades. And there are sizeable portions of
		
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			Jewish people that believe that they're Jewish first,
		
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			and they even have gone to the Israel.
		
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			Let me finish. It's double the 3rd 1st.
		
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			They have gone to, to participate
		
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			in the Israeli defense forces
		
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			to fight as reservists for Israel. Yeah. Absolutely.
		
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			But they're not reservists in Britain. They would
		
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			not fight for Britain or they have not
		
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			fight for for fought for Britain. These very
		
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			same people. Why don't you see what any
		
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			complaint against their patriotism Well their nationalism? Because
		
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			I don't recall people. They recall Jews throwing
		
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			themselves up. I don't recall Jews hitting anybody.
		
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			I don't recall Jews flying planes into buildings.
		
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			So that's okay. We're we're we're we're not
		
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			one of the differences that we're not we're
		
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			not we're not let's not let's not talk
		
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			about Jews here. But but Zionists have
		
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			in the past killed British politicians,
		
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			throughout the palace the Palestine struggles. They could
		
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			they called it. They supported actual terrorism, blowing
		
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			up King David Hotel. They they supported
		
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			and funded internationally
		
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			At the terrorist operations against British If we
		
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			army in in Israel and you in Palestine.
		
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			You know that? At the if we pull
		
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			this into the here and the now Right.
		
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			Rather than dredging through history, the violence on
		
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			British streets, the unrest on British streets, the
		
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			the the the the traffic of the Fox
		
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			hunting protests and demonstrations that led to 60
		
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			police officers coming on. 60 police officers going
		
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			into the Every Saturday in Britain, we are
		
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			seeing the protests now. We're seeing soaring anti
		
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			semitism. We're seeing politicians being forced out of
		
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			office. We're seeing politicians in David Amess
		
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			being killed. There is a commonality
		
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			amongst that. Yep. You must admit. These figures
		
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			are damning. And I particularly want to ask
		
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			you, why is it that young British Muslims
		
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			seem to be especially radicalized when compared to
		
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			the older
		
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			Muslims. I I find that surprising. Why is
		
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			that happening?
		
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			Firstly, I think that this is, all a
		
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			a red herring. People are entitled to religious
		
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			views,
		
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			in England. No. They're false. These these religious
		
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			views,
		
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			might be what you might call conservative or
		
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			or ultra orthodox, depending on and they will
		
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			be at odds with, the liberal ideals of
		
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			liberal values. Shariah law as an orthodox That's
		
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			the point. That's against the law of the
		
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			law. Not on non Muslims. Right? And then
		
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			no one ever said they wanted to live
		
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			by Sharia law. Jews want to live by
		
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			halakkal or Jewish law, and they even have
		
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			baked deans, which is a Jewish courts,
		
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			that resolve disputes in this country. No one
		
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			complains about that. Well, at least not now.
		
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			The the the British, you know, fascist a
		
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			150 years 20 years ago did complain about
		
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			that. And, of course, we're seeing history repeat
		
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			itself. The issue is this, if Jews can
		
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			have these things, if Jews can live in
		
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			Stanford Hill, Gold is Green, and have their,
		
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			and have, their own their own culture, and
		
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			relatively, they even have their own, like, a
		
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			security sort of force called the.
		
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			And that's not a problem. And great. And
		
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			I I support them. Okay. And I think
		
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			most of them why can't Muslims have the
		
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			same? I wanna pull this conversation out, if
		
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			I could, back to Nigel Farage's comments. I
		
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			know Yeah. You put a post out about
		
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			that extraordinary. It's been taken down. I put
		
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			a tweet out of the Nigel Farage, and
		
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			all I did was I provided some of
		
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			the same statistics. And simply for telling the
		
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			truth today, you get silenced. Because I think
		
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			it's almost as if the establishment elite understand
		
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			that multiculturalism
		
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			has failed and that Islam is a tinderbox
		
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			waiting to go off, and they're treading on
		
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			eggshells around it. And it reminded me precisely
		
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			of the last 30 years in Rotherham and
		
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			Oldham when the police, the social services, the
		
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			councils were petrified by political correctness and so
		
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			beholden to this ideology of multiculturalism
		
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			that they allowed the industrial scale * of
		
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			young British girls by Pakistani Muslims
		
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			for fear of inflaming community tensions. That's why
		
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			Nigel Farage and I are getting silenced for
		
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			speaking the truth. We have imported vast numbers
		
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			of people into this country who have no
		
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			intention of assimilating.
		
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			They leave segregated lives in Islamic silos with
		
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			whose daily lives pass with little or no
		
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			interaction. The borders green as a silo. Wider
		
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			British society. Would you And and they they
		
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			exist in a world that's almost like a
		
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			Would you say start for the One second.
		
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			Let me finish the slide. Hello. In these
		
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			communities, they're like petri dishes where cultural abhorrent
		
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			cultural practices are being practiced,
		
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			forced marriages,
		
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			honor killings. Britain is now the global center
		
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			of acid attacks. We've already spoken about the
		
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			grooming gangs that are taking place. These are
		
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			abhorrent practices. We know full well that Muslims
		
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			living in these communities are twice as likely
		
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			to be as extremists
		
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			as those living in non segregated communities,
		
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			and we're only making this worse by continuing
		
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			gas immigration. Final words you add to that.
		
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			I wanna try and get to respond to
		
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			what Nigel Farage said. Nigel Farage speaking out.
		
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			He's put the cat amongst the pigeons. Is
		
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			it helpful? Yes or no? What I'm saying
		
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			is that I feel that, he's scared to
		
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			use those same standards he levels against Muslims
		
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			against Jews for doing exactly the same thing
		
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			in terms of, what you might call it
		
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			in in gold is green and so on.
		
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			Would you call that a silo? You wouldn't
		
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			you wouldn't dare because you'd be called anti
		
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			semis and you'd you'd you would, hate Well,
		
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			how many asset attacks in gold is green?
		
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			You said if if if English is the
		
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			global the global,
		
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			leader in asset attacks, then then then and
		
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			it's not the Muslim world, then clearly that
		
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			it's not gonna have to do with Islamist.
		
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			Asian king. Anyway, I think I have a
		
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			discussion.
		
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			But, anyway, to Please address what Nigel said.
		
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			Is it helpful or not? I mean, he
		
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			speaks the truth, but Well well, I think
		
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			we have to ask ourselves. Is is Nigel
		
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			out for the rights of the British citizen,
		
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			the rights of British citizen to protest and
		
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			demonstrate? No police are injured or attacked every
		
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			week on the Palestine demonstration of protest. Yeah.
		
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			And Fox hunting, the the demonstrations that he
		
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			attended, in one case, there was a riot
		
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			in Parliament Square where 60 police were injured.
		
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			Plea MPs were housed were barricaded by fox
		
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			hunting protesters. Right?
		
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			Anti, anti ban protesters.
		
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			And yet he supports that, but yet peaceful
		
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			protests go out for Palestine, and he wants
		
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			to clamp down. The question is, does he
		
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			have Britain's British rights British citizen rights in
		
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			his mind as his number one concern? Does
		
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			he have Israel or other foreign countries government
		
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			shutdown?
		
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			Ideas that he wants to have a all
		
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			I'm saying. All I'm saying is, I I
		
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			pleaded
		
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			with the police to stop people putting that
		
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			that sign on Big Ben when it happened
		
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			from River to the Sea. I said to
		
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			them, that's a projector. Go and take it
		
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			down. They would not. What's wrong with it?
		
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			Soft, sobered. People find it grossly offensive, and
		
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			many feel it shavenly. Guess what? Guess what?
		
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			Guess what? Guess what rights and freedoms are
		
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			world? Private freedom is to do to have
		
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			a freedom to do something even despite people
		
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			find it grossly offensive. Looks like you
		
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			guys, have issue of British values. It's not
		
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			a British. Not Muslim
		
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			because you're facing freedom and liberty.
		
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			Of course. All GB News does It talks
		
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			about banning this, banning that, the problem, there's
		
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			a problem with that, and that they should
		
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			clamp down on this on on the rise
		
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			of brief citizens to protest or demonstrate when
		
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			there's clearly no antisemitism there. Not what single,
		
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			smoking gun you can present on camera. Just
		
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			rumors. Oh, we hear this antisemitism
		
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			happen. Not a single not a single time.
		
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			Not a single image you can show. Okay.
		
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			So that gas the Jews comment, was in
		
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			in Australia, I believe, it was broadcast But
		
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			we were talking about we're talking about Britain.
		
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			But the but the but the the the
		
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			children dressed as Hamas terrorists, that was very
		
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			much in Britain. In fact, the police imposed
		
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			the pictures with them. We have to leave
		
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			it there. It was the first time in
		
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			the demonstrators attacking physically attacking British and rising
		
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			students at UCO in America. We don't talk
		
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			about that. We have to leave it there.
		
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			Raef Helmanku and Abdullah
		
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			Andalusi, cofounder of the Muslim debate initiative. A
		
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			live debate. Thank you both very much, gentlemen.
		
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			GB News were alleging that there were children
		
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			dressed as Hamas posing with police officers
		
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			at UK demonstrations.
		
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			This is the picture that was actually cited
		
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			to be this case by some pro Zionist
		
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			accounts on Twitter.
		
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			As you can see that's not the case.
		
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			It's a little kid who's not dressed in
		
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			military uniform or combats,
		
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			holding a Palestine national flag
		
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			with this phrase save our children
		
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			and is having a kefir,
		
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			which is a Palestinian
		
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			head cloth
		
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			and is wrapped around the face. Presumably like
		
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			every other demonstrators
		
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			not trying to show the face.
		
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			Nowhere is this showing a Hamas fighter. The
		
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			kefir is common to everybody in Palestine. It
		
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			is a national symbol you could say of
		
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			Palestinians. It's why the police didn't mind posing
		
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			with some such individuals and no one got
		
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			arrested. No one got prosecuted for this. So
		
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			this is false and bogus information on behalf
		
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			of GB News. But also they alleged that
		
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			there was people chanting gas to Jews at
		
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			a demonstration in Australia. Now even though I
		
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			mentioned that we were talking about UK demonstrations
		
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			that Nigel Farage was criticizing,
		
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			even then in this demonstration
		
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			out of 100 of demonstrations in calling Australia,
		
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			but even this one demonstration,
		
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			no one was actually saying gas to Jews.
		
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			The police investigated this
		
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			and found out that it was not saying
		
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			gas to Jews. But it was this unverified
		
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			video that appeared to take the hatred to
		
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			a potentially criminal level.
		
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			Now after months of analysis, investigators say there's
		
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			no evidence those specific words were said in
		
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			that clip.
		
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			Emphatically,
		
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			our expert has said that is, where's the
		
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			Jews? Police investigating whether violence was incited at
		
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			the protest sent the video to a biometric
		
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			science expert who found the subtitles were incorrect.
		
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			Therefore, GB News are again are touting lies,
		
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			even though the Australian police have clarified it.
		
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			It's for that reason that GB News didn't
		
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			want to show any clips to me
		
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			on the show because they knew that I
		
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			would call them out or that it would
		
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			be quite blatant that what they are claiming
		
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			isn't indeed the case. It should also be
		
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			noted that GB News has always been unable,
		
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			despite my repeated challenges to them whenever I'm
		
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			on their show, to show where these anti
		
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			apartheid, anti oppression,
		
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			anti genocide marches
		
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			are ones where people are told to chant
		
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			or have placards or posters
		
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			where they are calling to attacking or killing
		
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			or hating all Jews which they never are
		
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			able to do so. They only can only
		
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			find 1 individual
		
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			crackpot that might attend but they will never
		
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			ever find people who come to these demonstrations
		
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			in groups
		
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			to chant and be told to chant and
		
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			be told to condemn or attack or hate
		
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			Jews. And therefore, it should always be noticed.
		
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			And GB News should always be held to
		
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			account and always be asked to bring such
		
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			footage.
		
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			Anyway, hope you enjoyed the show.
		
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			If if any Jew in London is feeling
		
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			uneasy and unsafe about the situation, I encourage
		
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			them to come out here. You can come
		
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			with your kippas, and you'll face nothing but
		
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			love from the people here.