Abdullah al Andalusi – UK TV show attacks Muslims for being anti-British values but gets EXPOSED by Muslim guest in the end
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The conversation covers Nigel Farage's comments on Muslim voters not subscribing to British values and the rise of fascism in the political climate. The speakers also discuss the rise of anti- admission movement and the confusion surrounding the anti- admission movement. The discussion touches on the issue of protecting religious sensitivities and the use of "we" in media. The speakers express concern about the negative consequences of the new President and recent protests, and encourage those who are unable to attend demonstrations to bring their evidence. They emphasize the importance of privacy and privacy for citizens.AI: Transcript ©
Welcome back now at the start of the
show. We ask you, was Nigel Farage right
to say Muslim voters don't share Britain's values?
Well, here's what he had to say. William
tells us, I totally agree with Nigel.
We are losing our country and fast. And
Mick says this. Maja Faraj is stating what
most people believe. There are thousands of British
Muslims who do not subscribe to our values.
Speaking the truth is not allowed anymore
in this woke country. And another viewer adds
this.
I think it's a loud vocal minority that
caused the most shouting over this, and most
people here are
peaceful
and tolerant. Now before the break, we were
hearing from Nigel Farage
following his comments about parts of the Muslim
population not subscribing
to British values. He said there was a
deep sense of unease, and here's a stark
warning
Nigel gave when he spoke to me just
a few moments ago.
Fact is, I mean I mean, goodness me,
on this channel, the number of Muslim lawyers,
business people that we have on talking about
things that have got their own private observance
of religion but are fully integrated part of
the community. And you can see this with
the Jewish community. You can see it with
the Hindu community.
You know, where where people have different origins
and faiths but
we have commonality and we all get on.
This is a particular problem
in Islam.
You know, it is a minority but it's
a growing minority.
And if we don't talk about it,
we're gonna finish up with sectarian politics with
people voting along religious lines in a very
big way. And I know I'm old enough
to remember what sectarian policies did in Northern
Ireland. I don't wanna see anything like that
in England.
K. It's time for debate on this now,
and joining me in the studio to debate
night's explosive interview as the media commentator Rafe
Hadel Mankou and also Abdullah Al Andalusia, the
cofounder of the Muslim debate initiative. Let's start
with you, Ab Abdullah.
So,
the cat's been perminous of pigeons once again
by Nigel Farage. A lot of people saying,
his comments were horribly Islamophobic
and racist. Would you agree with that?
I would say that, many people have described
what he said as, race baiting or religious
baiting
because most people who are Muslim in this
country,
were from immigrant background or recent immigrant backgrounds,
and so they are convenient target.
150 years ago, Oswald Mosley, a Nigel Farage
of his time, one might argue, for the
British Union fascists argued that Jews were a
problem in this country and that there was
a large population who weren't assimilating or didn't
follow British values. So here we are, in
somewhat repeating history, again with this. And the
one most dangerous things I I noticed from
Nigel Farage's comments was he was criticizing,
anti genocide, anti apartheid protest in Palestine.
Is it British values then? If if they
are the ones who are meant to be
against British values, is Nigel Farage saying that
to be British is to be supporting genocide
and apartheid? Well well, hang on. I think
that's that's very worrying. The the anti semitism,
the rise of fascism on British streets, it
isn't coming from people like Nigel Farage. It's
coming from the Islamists.
Well, fascism is to is to say that
the country is more important than, individual rights
or or and so on. So anyone who
says that this country should come first beyond,
people's individual rights or freedoms is by definition
or the state should come first is by
definition of fascist. So that wouldn't apply. Secondly,
anti semitism
show 1 just show one clip of someone
attacking all Jews,
insulting Jews, or inciting people to to hate
Jews in any one of these demonstrations. We
all hear a lot of rhetoric. Somebody said,
guess the Jews. Somebody's wearing a Hamas sign.
Children dressed, dressed as fancy dress. Hamas, terrorists.
We have then we have to see the
video show the video where someone said gas
to Jews. Right? Because I because I would
equally condemn that like anyone else here. This
is that would be abhorrent, but we haven't
seen any evidence. All we hear It's not
that it happened on days. Rumors with rumors.
It's not rumors. It's that. Everything here is
crystal clear. Then show the video. Well, we
are glad to see the video. You can
Google it. Ravehael or Mankook. Do you wanna
counter this? Yeah. Well, I mean, look. It
goes without saying that the majority of Muslims
in this country are well integrated and adjusted,
and that should be celebrated. But people constantly
say, oh, it's a small minority who are
like this. It's not. It's a very
sizable minority of the Muslim population of this
country hold views,
attitudes, and beliefs that run contrary completely contrary
to our civilization
and our culture. And it's not getting better.
People used to say, oh, well, this is
just first immigration Muslims. Their children and grandchildren
were very different. On the contrary, it's the
children today who hold far more radical views
than their parents or grandparents.
I mean, you know, there was one poll
done by the, policy exchange that showed this
is quite unbelievable.
1 third of young British Muslims aged 16
to 24 believe
ex Muslims should be put to death for
apostasy. This is quite amazing.
A majority of British Muslims believe that homosexuality
should be illegal compared to 5%
of the broader population.
3 quarters of British Muslims in this last
poll do not believe that Hamas committed murder
and *
on October 7th. Now you might think that's
that's a bizarre thing for them to believe,
but actually, it's in keeping with previous polls.
31
percent of British Muslims believe that America was
behind,
9 11.
7% believe it was the Jews. Only 4%
believe it was Al Qaeda, which, of course,
we know. More Muslims also believe that Diana
was killed because she wanted to marry a
Muslim than believe she was killed in an
accident. Now those are just the most bizarre
things. But then you go you look further
and you and you see that 62% of
Muslims want to restrict free speech in order
to protect
religious sensitivities.
52%
believe that there should be no picture of
Mohammed shown.
Every gauge you look at,
most scarily, 9% of British Muslims, 400,000
people identify
as being Islamists
and supporters of terrorism,
and 15%
sympathize with terrorism
compared to compared
to 6%
in in in France and Germany. And 81
percent 81 percent of British Muslims identify as
Muslim first and British second, whereas it's only
66%
in Germany, and it's only 46%
in France. We have a real issue here
which we need to address, and we can't
keep covering these things up. Abdulla, that's a
barrage of data. How do you respond to
that? Okay. Yeah. And in this very same
poll,
twice as many,
the non Muslim public, British public that was
polled were likely to support ISIS than Muslims.
That's in the that's in the same poll.
Right? These are 5 poll. We're talking about
the one you referenced. So in this poll,
you get some very weird data coming out,
but that that's beside the point. The point
is that, Muslims, if you ask some religious
Jews who have very similar laws and beliefs
to Muslims, will say very much the same
thing. They're going to say they're Jewish first
and maybe British second. It's a big debate
amongst Jews. Fraud is kind of fraud for
many decades. And there are sizeable portions of
Jewish people that believe that they're Jewish first,
and they even have gone to the Israel.
Let me finish. It's double the 3rd 1st.
They have gone to, to participate
in the Israeli defense forces
to fight as reservists for Israel. Yeah. Absolutely.
But they're not reservists in Britain. They would
not fight for Britain or they have not
fight for for fought for Britain. These very
same people. Why don't you see what any
complaint against their patriotism Well their nationalism? Because
I don't recall people. They recall Jews throwing
themselves up. I don't recall Jews hitting anybody.
I don't recall Jews flying planes into buildings.
So that's okay. We're we're we're we're not
one of the differences that we're not we're
not we're not let's not let's not talk
about Jews here. But but Zionists have
in the past killed British politicians,
throughout the palace the Palestine struggles. They could
they called it. They supported actual terrorism, blowing
up King David Hotel. They they supported
and funded internationally
At the terrorist operations against British If we
army in in Israel and you in Palestine.
You know that? At the if we pull
this into the here and the now Right.
Rather than dredging through history, the violence on
British streets, the unrest on British streets, the
the the the the traffic of the Fox
hunting protests and demonstrations that led to 60
police officers coming on. 60 police officers going
into the Every Saturday in Britain, we are
seeing the protests now. We're seeing soaring anti
semitism. We're seeing politicians being forced out of
office. We're seeing politicians in David Amess
being killed. There is a commonality
amongst that. Yep. You must admit. These figures
are damning. And I particularly want to ask
you, why is it that young British Muslims
seem to be especially radicalized when compared to
the older
Muslims. I I find that surprising. Why is
that happening?
Firstly, I think that this is, all a
a red herring. People are entitled to religious
views,
in England. No. They're false. These these religious
views,
might be what you might call conservative or
or ultra orthodox, depending on and they will
be at odds with, the liberal ideals of
liberal values. Shariah law as an orthodox That's
the point. That's against the law of the
law. Not on non Muslims. Right? And then
no one ever said they wanted to live
by Sharia law. Jews want to live by
halakkal or Jewish law, and they even have
baked deans, which is a Jewish courts,
that resolve disputes in this country. No one
complains about that. Well, at least not now.
The the the British, you know, fascist a
150 years 20 years ago did complain about
that. And, of course, we're seeing history repeat
itself. The issue is this, if Jews can
have these things, if Jews can live in
Stanford Hill, Gold is Green, and have their,
and have, their own their own culture, and
relatively, they even have their own, like, a
security sort of force called the.
And that's not a problem. And great. And
I I support them. Okay. And I think
most of them why can't Muslims have the
same? I wanna pull this conversation out, if
I could, back to Nigel Farage's comments. I
know Yeah. You put a post out about
that extraordinary. It's been taken down. I put
a tweet out of the Nigel Farage, and
all I did was I provided some of
the same statistics. And simply for telling the
truth today, you get silenced. Because I think
it's almost as if the establishment elite understand
that multiculturalism
has failed and that Islam is a tinderbox
waiting to go off, and they're treading on
eggshells around it. And it reminded me precisely
of the last 30 years in Rotherham and
Oldham when the police, the social services, the
councils were petrified by political correctness and so
beholden to this ideology of multiculturalism
that they allowed the industrial scale * of
young British girls by Pakistani Muslims
for fear of inflaming community tensions. That's why
Nigel Farage and I are getting silenced for
speaking the truth. We have imported vast numbers
of people into this country who have no
intention of assimilating.
They leave segregated lives in Islamic silos with
whose daily lives pass with little or no
interaction. The borders green as a silo. Wider
British society. Would you And and they they
exist in a world that's almost like a
Would you say start for the One second.
Let me finish the slide. Hello. In these
communities, they're like petri dishes where cultural abhorrent
cultural practices are being practiced,
forced marriages,
honor killings. Britain is now the global center
of acid attacks. We've already spoken about the
grooming gangs that are taking place. These are
abhorrent practices. We know full well that Muslims
living in these communities are twice as likely
to be as extremists
as those living in non segregated communities,
and we're only making this worse by continuing
gas immigration. Final words you add to that.
I wanna try and get to respond to
what Nigel Farage said. Nigel Farage speaking out.
He's put the cat amongst the pigeons. Is
it helpful? Yes or no? What I'm saying
is that I feel that, he's scared to
use those same standards he levels against Muslims
against Jews for doing exactly the same thing
in terms of, what you might call it
in in gold is green and so on.
Would you call that a silo? You wouldn't
you wouldn't dare because you'd be called anti
semis and you'd you'd you would, hate Well,
how many asset attacks in gold is green?
You said if if if English is the
global the global,
leader in asset attacks, then then then and
it's not the Muslim world, then clearly that
it's not gonna have to do with Islamist.
Asian king. Anyway, I think I have a
discussion.
But, anyway, to Please address what Nigel said.
Is it helpful or not? I mean, he
speaks the truth, but Well well, I think
we have to ask ourselves. Is is Nigel
out for the rights of the British citizen,
the rights of British citizen to protest and
demonstrate? No police are injured or attacked every
week on the Palestine demonstration of protest. Yeah.
And Fox hunting, the the demonstrations that he
attended, in one case, there was a riot
in Parliament Square where 60 police were injured.
Plea MPs were housed were barricaded by fox
hunting protesters. Right?
Anti, anti ban protesters.
And yet he supports that, but yet peaceful
protests go out for Palestine, and he wants
to clamp down. The question is, does he
have Britain's British rights British citizen rights in
his mind as his number one concern? Does
he have Israel or other foreign countries government
shutdown?
Ideas that he wants to have a all
I'm saying. All I'm saying is, I I
pleaded
with the police to stop people putting that
that sign on Big Ben when it happened
from River to the Sea. I said to
them, that's a projector. Go and take it
down. They would not. What's wrong with it?
Soft, sobered. People find it grossly offensive, and
many feel it shavenly. Guess what? Guess what?
Guess what? Guess what rights and freedoms are
world? Private freedom is to do to have
a freedom to do something even despite people
find it grossly offensive. Looks like you
guys, have issue of British values. It's not
a British. Not Muslim
because you're facing freedom and liberty.
Of course. All GB News does It talks
about banning this, banning that, the problem, there's
a problem with that, and that they should
clamp down on this on on the rise
of brief citizens to protest or demonstrate when
there's clearly no antisemitism there. Not what single,
smoking gun you can present on camera. Just
rumors. Oh, we hear this antisemitism
happen. Not a single not a single time.
Not a single image you can show. Okay.
So that gas the Jews comment, was in
in Australia, I believe, it was broadcast But
we were talking about we're talking about Britain.
But the but the but the the the
children dressed as Hamas terrorists, that was very
much in Britain. In fact, the police imposed
the pictures with them. We have to leave
it there. It was the first time in
the demonstrators attacking physically attacking British and rising
students at UCO in America. We don't talk
about that. We have to leave it there.
Raef Helmanku and Abdullah
Andalusi, cofounder of the Muslim debate initiative. A
live debate. Thank you both very much, gentlemen.
GB News were alleging that there were children
dressed as Hamas posing with police officers
at UK demonstrations.
This is the picture that was actually cited
to be this case by some pro Zionist
accounts on Twitter.
As you can see that's not the case.
It's a little kid who's not dressed in
military uniform or combats,
holding a Palestine national flag
with this phrase save our children
and is having a kefir,
which is a Palestinian
head cloth
and is wrapped around the face. Presumably like
every other demonstrators
not trying to show the face.
Nowhere is this showing a Hamas fighter. The
kefir is common to everybody in Palestine. It
is a national symbol you could say of
Palestinians. It's why the police didn't mind posing
with some such individuals and no one got
arrested. No one got prosecuted for this. So
this is false and bogus information on behalf
of GB News. But also they alleged that
there was people chanting gas to Jews at
a demonstration in Australia. Now even though I
mentioned that we were talking about UK demonstrations
that Nigel Farage was criticizing,
even then in this demonstration
out of 100 of demonstrations in calling Australia,
but even this one demonstration,
no one was actually saying gas to Jews.
The police investigated this
and found out that it was not saying
gas to Jews. But it was this unverified
video that appeared to take the hatred to
a potentially criminal level.
Now after months of analysis, investigators say there's
no evidence those specific words were said in
that clip.
Emphatically,
our expert has said that is, where's the
Jews? Police investigating whether violence was incited at
the protest sent the video to a biometric
science expert who found the subtitles were incorrect.
Therefore, GB News are again are touting lies,
even though the Australian police have clarified it.
It's for that reason that GB News didn't
want to show any clips to me
on the show because they knew that I
would call them out or that it would
be quite blatant that what they are claiming
isn't indeed the case. It should also be
noted that GB News has always been unable,
despite my repeated challenges to them whenever I'm
on their show, to show where these anti
apartheid, anti oppression,
anti genocide marches
are ones where people are told to chant
or have placards or posters
where they are calling to attacking or killing
or hating all Jews which they never are
able to do so. They only can only
find 1 individual
crackpot that might attend but they will never
ever find people who come to these demonstrations
in groups
to chant and be told to chant and
be told to condemn or attack or hate
Jews. And therefore, it should always be noticed.
And GB News should always be held to
account and always be asked to bring such
footage.
Anyway, hope you enjoyed the show.
If if any Jew in London is feeling
uneasy and unsafe about the situation, I encourage
them to come out here. You can come
with your kippas, and you'll face nothing but
love from the people here.
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