Abdullah al Andalusi – Right-wing news channel attacks Mohammed Hijab & UK Muslims to distract from Gazan genocide

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The conversation discusses the negative views of Sharia law in Britain, including those of Muslims who want to see the prophet's face and want Sharia law. The potential for viral videos to penetrate and harm young people more easily than traditional hate clerics is also addressed. The discussion touches on the concern of women's rights in the UK where the majority of Muslims are opposed to Sharia law. The importance of mental maturity in Islam is also addressed, along with the age limit for sexual activities and the use of Sharia law. The speaker suggests that the British public may be hesitant to switch to a different approach to the issue.

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			It's 9 PM. I'm Patrick Christes. Tonight
		
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			Stay at home. Women's job is to stay
		
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			at home. They only come out when there
		
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			is a need.
		
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			Some Muslims back Hamas want Sharia law around
		
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			women to stay at home. Devastating polling reveals
		
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			the truth.
		
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			Also, we have to face facts. There is
		
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			a big problem with the views that too
		
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			many Muslims hold in Britain.
		
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			Here are those facts.
		
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			Only 1 quarter actively don't want Sharia law
		
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			in the UK.
		
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			52%
		
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			want it to be illegal to show a
		
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			picture of the prophet Mohammed.
		
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			57%
		
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			want halal food to be compulsory at all
		
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			schools and hospitals.
		
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			Only 28%
		
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			are opposed to making homosexuality
		
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			illegal. On homosexuality,
		
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			it's hardly surprising when you've got people spouting
		
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			stuff like this online.
		
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			We're sitting next to a guy who's gonna
		
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			go and penetrate and *
		
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			another guy tonight.
		
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			And you're gonna you're gonna expect a lot
		
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			to give you victory because you're standing next
		
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			to a guy who's gonna literally insert his
		
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			* into another man's back
		
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			passage. We've spoken a lot on this show
		
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			about the desire for a Muslim political party.
		
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			Well, it turns out that only
		
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			16% of British Muslims would be opposed to
		
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			that. Hamas is a prescribed terror group. They
		
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			are a terrorist organization.
		
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			Well,
		
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			46%
		
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			of British Muslims have more sympathy for Hamas
		
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			than Israel, and only a quarter of British
		
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			Muslims apparently think Hamas committed * and murder
		
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			on October 7th.
		
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			This is stark,
		
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			but here are the statistics that show that
		
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			unless something changes, Britain is frankly
		
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			doomed. Here are the stats for young British
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			18 to 34 year olds tended to have
		
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			the most extreme views.
		
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			53% of them sympathize with Hamas apparently.
		
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			They are the most likely
		
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			to want to make Islam a national religion,
		
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			and they are the most likely to want
		
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			to impose
		
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			Sharia law. I think this is probably the
		
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			nail in the coffin for integration and assimilation.
		
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			It also appears that Muslims who were born
		
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			and raised in Britain, who had exposure to
		
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			our way of life and our culture
		
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			are more likely
		
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			to have
		
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			more extreme views.
		
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			So what is happening there?
		
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			I suspect that viral videos online are penetrating
		
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			and poisoning young minds
		
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			more easily than traditional hate clerics in mosques
		
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			ever could, for example. We have young, high
		
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			profile Islamic scholars appearing to justify having sexual
		
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			relations with children.
		
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			If you look just at the Quran,
		
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			you will get
		
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			the indication that you can have sexual *
		
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			with a 5 year old. No. The reason
		
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			why it's haram to have sexual * with
		
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			a 5 year
		
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			old is not found in the Quran at
		
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			all.
		
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			If you just read the Quran, it is
		
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			halal. It would just it would be halal
		
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			to have sexual * with 5 year old.
		
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			Chapter 65
		
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			verse 4.
		
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			Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us who you
		
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			can divorce and who you cannot divorce.
		
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			And then he says, and
		
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			the ones who had never
		
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			been pubescent before.
		
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			I think most people will find that concerning.
		
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			We have people preaching about women being whores.
		
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			A woman who comes out of her house
		
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			perfuming herself,
		
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			every single eye that looks at her.
		
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			She's an adulteress woman.
		
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			Clips like that show that this really should
		
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			be a women's rights issue. The pushback,
		
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			I think, should be on women's rights if
		
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			nothing else.
		
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			What would women's rights be in this man's
		
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			version of Britain?
		
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			Well, that brings down governments because what?
		
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			When men men and women start free mixing.
		
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			Allah destroys the government.
		
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			Islam is reportedly the fastest growing religion in
		
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			the UK, and there is a surge in
		
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			young white British boys converting.
		
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			The latest figures show that the generation of
		
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			British Muslims coming through now are apparently
		
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			more extreme than we've seen before. Look. People
		
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			can make their own minds up about this.
		
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			I mean, do you honestly think that the
		
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			so called religion of peace is here to
		
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			assimilate
		
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			and blend in or not? Well, let's get
		
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			the thoughts now, and I'm looking forward to
		
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			this, With Abdullah
		
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			Al Andalusi,
		
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			who's cofounder of the Muslim debate initiative. Look.
		
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			Thank you very, very much. I know a
		
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			lot of people, myself included, are concerned when
		
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			we see figures and stats coming out like
		
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			that. Is there a concern
		
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			with assimilation? Do you think assimilation has failed?
		
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			I think you've, perhaps forgotten the the supposed
		
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			traditional values of Britain. Britain doesn't is not
		
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			meant to care what you believe.
		
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			Many of the beliefs that you cite for
		
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			Muslims have held by traditional Christians,
		
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			Jews, and many other religions in this in
		
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			this society. In fact, for the majority of
		
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			English history, they've probably been more aligned to
		
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			Muslim views than your post Christian and more
		
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			atheistic secular worldview.
		
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			Oh, have we still got him? I think
		
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			we might have lost him. I'll just trouble
		
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			chat. Sorry. I'm not sure if we might
		
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			have lost you there. I'm just gonna ask
		
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			you another question just to make sure. Do
		
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			you think it's a concern? Do you think
		
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			have we lost him? Okay. Alright. Well, look.
		
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			Let me go to my panel. That's a
		
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			shame. Hope we will try and get him
		
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			back. Let's get to my panel now. Daily
		
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			Express columnist Carol Malone, journalist
		
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			and broadcaster, Benjamin Busworth, and political commentator,
		
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			Susanne Evans. Hopefully, he'll be able to bring
		
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			Abdullah back very, very shortly. But, look, Carol,
		
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			I will start with you on this now.
		
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			I think there is a concern, isn't there?
		
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			When we look at some of the statistics
		
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			that we've seen there
		
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			about the number of people, for example, who
		
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			would like to make it illegal to show
		
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			a picture of the prophet Mohammed. I mean,
		
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			that is blasphemy laws, isn't it? That yeah.
		
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			That's the truth. Yeah. Absolutely.
		
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			You know, I'm shocked by what I just
		
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			saw there. I mean, those people should be
		
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			behind bars now. Advocating * with 5 year
		
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			olds. My god.
		
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			Yeah. For the people who want Sharia law,
		
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			no, Sharia
		
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			law directly
		
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			undermines
		
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			liberal democracy. It's an it's an extreme
		
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			oppressive law, which mainly hurts women and children
		
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			by the sound of it from from your
		
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			film there. You know, it it it has
		
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			no place in this country. These people, you
		
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			know, who are advocating this, they they you
		
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			can't have 2 laws running in one state
		
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			because what they want is a state within
		
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			a state, and that's called a caliphate, Patrick.
		
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			Alright. Alright. We're just gonna park with that
		
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			because I believe that we can just bring
		
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			back in now Abdullah Andalusi. Yes. Thank you
		
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			very much. Sorry that we knocked you there
		
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			for a second. Look.
		
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			More than
		
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			57
		
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			57% apparently want things like compulsory use of
		
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			allowed food. I think I'm a bit less
		
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			bothered about that, to be honest with you.
		
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			I mean, I think things like, for example,
		
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			52% of people making it illegal to show
		
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			a picture of the prophet Mohammed. I mean,
		
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			that is turns out to a blasphemy law,
		
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			isn't it? Would you be in favor of
		
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			that?
		
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			Well, Britain had a blasphemy law, actually, only
		
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			until very, very recently. It was, it was,
		
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			against the law to blaspheme the trinity
		
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			and so on. So this was actually part
		
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			of the British statute, a traditional British laws
		
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			for for centuries. Not that now.
		
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			So well, okay. So you wanna if you
		
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			would change your mind, that's up to you,
		
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			you know, but the issue is this that
		
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			in England, you should have the right to
		
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			have your beliefs as long as you don't
		
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			violently force anyone else to change theirs. Why
		
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			is that not acceptable for Muslims to to
		
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			to hold this? We a 100 years ago,
		
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			they were complaining about Jews not assimilating and
		
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			doing that. That Jews were having a separate
		
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			society, ghettoizing themselves, having, belief that were on,
		
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			un British as Oswald Mosley, the the union
		
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			of British fact the the the British Union
		
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			fascists leader said. And now we're having repetition
		
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			of the same arguments, but now it's the
		
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			Muslim's turn, to be asked these questions. Can
		
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			I just ask you, is that is that
		
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			fundamentally true, though? I mean, when I look
		
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			at these things now, like, younger Muslims are
		
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			the most likely to sympathize with Hamas, which
		
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			are a prescribed terror group, or that younger
		
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			Muslims are most likely to want to declare
		
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			Islam as a national religion. There is, I
		
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			think, a concern
		
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			that potentially the younger generation is becoming, dare
		
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			I say it, more radical?
		
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			No.
		
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			A national religion, not the national religion. Look
		
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			at the questions that was asked by the
		
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			Henry Jackson Society, a society who's, associate director
		
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			previous one, Douglas Meyer, was famous for saying
		
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			that conditions for Muslims must be made harder
		
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			across the board.
		
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			Some might say that it's an attempt at
		
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			race baiting a religious demographic whose opinions
		
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			are shared by many across the British demographic
		
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			spectrum. I do think that this poll is
		
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			a red herring to divert people's attentions away
		
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			from the more impressing issue of a current
		
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			genocide and and, and 40,000 dead Palestinians
		
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			as well as UN reports of systematic *
		
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			of Palestinian women by the Israeli Defense Force.
		
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			Cater to how the people could be able
		
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			to respond to saying that the Quran
		
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			justifies you having * with a 4 or
		
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			5 year old.
		
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			Okay. So this is, someone I know, Mohammed
		
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			Al Jabbar. If you watch the entire video
		
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			clip, he doesn't say that you can have
		
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			* with a 5 year old. He he
		
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			then makes you you cut it. Alright. Continue
		
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			seeing the rest of the clip. He actually
		
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			explains that when you look at the other
		
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			evidences that Islam has, it it is clarified
		
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			the age limit when you can have, when
		
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			you can get married to somebody. Age limit?
		
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			Well, in in traditional Islam as well as
		
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			in, Judaism and so on and so forth,
		
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			it is, it is puberty and mental maturity.
		
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			So once you have mental maturity and the
		
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			the body is physically capable of reproduction with
		
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			no health, issues,
		
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			that's which can can depend on on on
		
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			the individual and society, what have you,
		
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			then that's what's the there's no hard and
		
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			fast that It must be 60 or 80
		
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			years old. What would would is is that
		
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			what would happen then? So under sharia law,
		
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			would the law of the land be
		
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			that interpretation?
		
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			Because,
		
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			only 1 in 4, apparently, Muslims say that
		
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			it would be undesirable to have Sharia law,
		
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			which the implication would be that they will
		
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			be quite happy to have that in this
		
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			country as the law. Well, when when you
		
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			ask a Muslim, do do you want Sharia
		
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			law? You're you're basically asking them, do you
		
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			want to live under like, you're asking a
		
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			Christian. Do you want to live on the
		
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			Christian values? You're asking a Jew. Do you
		
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			want to live on the Jewish lines?
		
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			The Sharia law only applies to Muslim. It
		
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			doesn't it's never ever applied even for the
		
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			the medieval Islamic caliphates. It never applied to
		
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			Christians, Jews, and others. It's only for Muslims.
		
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			There's no point making Jews and Christians follow
		
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			Sharia Sharia law. It's not going to improve
		
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			their their Muslimness.
		
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			Right? So, the key the case is that,
		
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			Sharia law is only a a work to
		
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			get Sharia. So because what Sharia just means
		
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			law.
		
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			Sharia is only for Muslims. And, of course,
		
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			Muslims want to live well. Just even if
		
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			they're not following Sharia
		
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			by by being polite and I do appreciate
		
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			what you're saying. I do understand what you're
		
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			saying. And and, you know, I do really
		
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			appreciate you coming on. I I do wanna
		
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			just drill down on this. It's the final
		
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			point there, which is the yeah. If we
		
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			do have only 1 in 4 people saying
		
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			it will be undesirable to live under Sharia
		
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			law, And if under Sharia law, it would
		
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			be okay to engage in sexual acts with
		
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			someone of puberty or or mental capacity. Do
		
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			you not think that's a concern?
		
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			Well, you're saying you're saying it's a concern
		
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			if you have a a law that allows
		
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			people who are both mentally mature, so they're
		
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			mentally adults,
		
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			and they're physically adults, to engage in consensual
		
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			relations. So what what would be your contention
		
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			against that?
		
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			Well, be that the law of the land
		
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			at the moment is that you have to
		
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			be of consenting age, which will be 16.
		
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			Well, you're currently 16, but in all the
		
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			European countries, it varies between 14 to 18.
		
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			In some European countries, in some place, even
		
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			20 years old is the age limit. And
		
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			6 and 16 is is sleeping with a
		
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			minor, so to speak. So British might be
		
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			the British might be So you're not you're
		
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			not against it being younger than that. You
		
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			know, you wouldn't be against it. I'm I'm
		
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			simply saying that the the you're asking Muslims
		
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			what is the the Muslim belief is in
		
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			this poll. Right? So they're going to explain
		
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			it to you. They're not gonna say that
		
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			they want to change the law of the
		
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			land, law of Britain Oh. To make it
		
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			into whichever system. That that wasn't in there.
		
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			But but also, you see the thing is
		
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			this, the the the poll brought out some
		
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			really strange results. Because if you're arguing that,
		
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			we have to follow the majority opinion in
		
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			whatever poll. According to this poll, 56% of
		
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			the British public said that they don't trust
		
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			trust Jewish community leaders in the UK when
		
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			they talk about, Palestine and Gaza. That's actually
		
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			in the poll. So do we have to
		
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			follow the majority then?
		
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			Also in the poll, apparently, the wider British
		
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			public is,
		
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			is twice, expressed 6% of the British public
		
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			has expressed a positive attitude towards ISIS.
		
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			Right? So where's the outcry about this? Is
		
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			the wider bridge possible? There is I think
		
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			there is quite a I think, to be
		
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			fair, there is quite a lot of outcry
		
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			on that. I mean, I've had I've certainly
		
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			expressed a lot of outcry about that on
		
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			the show. But, look, thank you very much.
		
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			Abdullah, I would like to talk to you
		
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			again, and I hope we can do that.
		
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			So Abdullah and Lucy, though, is the cofounder
		
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			of the Muslim debate
		
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			initiative.