Abdal Hakim Murad – Sukayna bint alHussein Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
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The transcript discusses the history and cultural differences between the 20th century and the early stages of Islam, including boundaries in religion and diversity in religion. It also touches on political and cultural events, including political changes, political upheaval, and political upheaval. The "monster" or "monster" in the Middle East represents a "monster" or "monster" in the western world and its significance in literature, while the "monster" or "monster" in the western world represents a "monster" or "monster" in the western world and its significance in the writing of literature.
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Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salatu salam ala Rasulillah while he was

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off, be He, woman well.

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So back to our consideration of paradigms of leadership. For those

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we've indicated perhaps too many times, it's not really an Islamic

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category but being exemplary. Being a model of sweat one, Asana

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is the kind of concept we're reaching for. And perhaps by now,

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having looked at more than a dozen of these

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distinctive individuals who represent the aspirations and the

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transformations of the Ummah, various points in its history,

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we've recognized that

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these people do not represent a single form of Muslim oneness, but

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rather represent ways in which as it were, the light of revelation

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passing through the original prophetic exemplar then becomes

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prismatic and a whole spectrum of different human types emerges.

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Very important nowadays to recognize this because ours is an

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age not really of Deen, but of ideology.

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The 19th century, one of the big transformations that happened in

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the Islamic world was that the traditional diversities and the

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tolerance of diversity which was normative throughout our history,

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and particularly in the earliest times, was challenged by

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scientific and Western and nationalistic paradigms. And the

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intimidated Muslims in places like North India, Egypt and elsewhere,

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I felt that they had to retreat into a single singular definition

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of Muslim selfhood.

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So 18th century Indian Muslims almost has no resemblance to 20th

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century Indian Muslims. And whereas once the tradition was

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embracing of difference and a multiplicity of human types and

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approaches to religion and med hubs and apart

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and civilizational difference.

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In the 20th century, increasingly, Islam became reshaped as ideology

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which tends to be a unitary type of thing.

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Communism Nazism, ideology is really not very good at providing

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an indefinite set of boundaries of affiliation. Science becomes the

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paradigm and science likes to have one answer to everything. It's not

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a culture of ambiguity. We've already refer to Thomas Bauer's

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great book the culture of ambiguity in which he maps the

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creation of the modern Muslim soul traces it back to those

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transformations in the 19th century where Muslims still

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colourful, enjoying their culture of ambiguity were confronted by

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stony faced black cloud, Victorian missionaries, who really didn't

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like the diversity and the splendor and the havoc of the

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East. And as a result, Muslims retreated into defensive and often

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puritanical

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life forms. So we could say that part of our project is to see how

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Islamic authenticity is measured, not in a defensive and reactive

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singularity, but rather in the affirmation of what the early

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Muslims called retire to feel. If

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you read the very early sources of FIP. You'll see that one of the

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preoccupations of the great honor that like Imam Malik was right, it

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will kill off making sure one is a shepherd for diversity, and

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multiplicity. And this is something that in our sectarian

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and narrow and fearful world, where fear rather than hope has

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become the preponderance subject of sermons has become difficult to

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reach for. But we will today be going right back into that primal

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formative period, we're not looking at some 20th century

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mauler. We are going back to the age of the seller themselves.

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The best three generations Cairo Rooney colony to the Hadith,

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Thurman Medina, yeah, Luna home, Thumbelina Yolanda home, the best

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of generations is mine, and then that which succeeds mine, and then

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that which succeeds that generation. So the first three

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generations of the sainted exemplary generations of Islam and

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nobody in the history of Islam has doubted that.

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So when we look at that period,

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we can look at it with the eyes of classical Islamic civilization,

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which Surah net, Imam Malik's world of immense fill F and

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diversity and also the effulgence as we've said, the rainbow like

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differentiation of different human types, or we can see it with a

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modern fearful defensive AI, which wants to see them as kind of Foot

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Soldiers of some ideological revolution, all of them more or

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less trying to be the same thing.

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And what we look for

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tends to be what we find. But in fact, if you look at the earliest

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sources,

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rewind to the earliest books of the Autopia, the more the winner,

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the malware Zia, the more you will find enormous diversity, and the

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respect for diversity, and a recognition that very often one

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can't come to a conclusion at all about things. In the city, the

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scholars came to Imam Malik all the way from Iraq and asked him 40

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questions that they come to ask him. And out of those 40. He said,

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I don't know, that entry to 36 of them.

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That was how the earlier generations were. And in our age,

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where everybody is saying, hey, let's follow the self. That's the

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reality of it, and awareness of

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the fact that perhaps one doesn't know. And this reality feed if

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this recognition, this shepherding of difference. So we're going to

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be going back into that sated center centered apostolic age. And

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looking at one of its most

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spectacular individuals, and the very many of them are

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extraordinary. People, not least because of the difference between

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them, you see this in the Sahaba, and the tabber. A, and these are

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not the foot soldiers of some Communist Party who all try to be

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exactly like the party leader. No, this is an emulation

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that produces the spectrum and this diversity. So if we have the

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courage to put aside the modern, fearful insistence on Muslims,

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sameness, and a policing of boundaries, and to get back to the

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age of the self themselves, if we are courageous enough to see our

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religion as a space, where differences something natural and

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to be celebrated, then we can start to get into the world, which

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is the world of the story that we're going to be tracing today.

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And the individual I want to look at

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is Hazzard or cedar Sakina binte, unforeseen, Sakina. unforeseen, so

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the daughter of Emmanuel Hussein, so she's from the third

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generation, great granddaughter of the Holy Prophet himself. From the

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athletic baits, particularly pure and absolute lineage to elevate

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today, if they're descended from Sakina will very much describe

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themselves proudly in those terms because her lineage continues. So

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from the self and from the athlete beat daughter of Al Hussein. Love

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about Alia, as the Arab say no dust settles on her name.

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And as we chopped her story, we will see how shallow and

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reductionist and miserable is the modern Islamic attempt to reduce

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Islam to nothing other than a kind of dull fundamentalist killjoy

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Puritanism, the Salaf were not that they were diverse.

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So the story here begins. And it really is,

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even though she's not remembered primarily for her life story. But

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for Actually, her contributions to Arabic literature, is one of the

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things we'll be focusing on later on. So Kane, as a great literary

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critic. The story begins with a famous meeting during the filler

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for of Omar Abdullah hottub, where he's together with great Sahaba

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and amongst them are Imam Ali and Imam Ali's two sons and some of

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the other Sahaba and they're talking about these amazing things

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that are happening to Islam in the time of Imam Ahmad, the expansion

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of Islam to become a great world power symbol to simultaneous

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conquest of Persia and Byzantines and those other places and the

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move into North Africa. It's phenomenal talking about this and

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say, Well, what, what does this mean?

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During this Majlis somebody, nobody seems blue comes to the

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door and says, Can I come in and this is not the green zone in

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Baghdad with face recognition technology in this scene, the

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artist stranger, welcome. Might have been let him come in. So the

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man comes in.

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Nobody's seen him before.

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At this has it been husband, John Herat and Saba Lara, one of the

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good things about focusing on the biography of Sita Sakina is that

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we actually have a lot of information about her. Part of the

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problem we have in in determining the life story of a lot of Muslim

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women in the history of the Ummah is that usually through their own

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preference, it's kind of private and doesn't, doesn't get written

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down, but partly because of her contribution to Arabic literature

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and partly because she's the daughter of Imam Hussain.

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We have a lot of facts so here's Ibn hasm jumping around and

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solving ROP tells the story with particular clarity so the stranger

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comes Allah and the whole mechanic hillside will be a Barbie Hatter

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to Allah kabhi to Allah to be he'll absorb well jolla to Hatari

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carbon this eel Khalifa. Leo Kadima illegal to hire. So the man

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comes in and then suddenly everybody is looking at him.

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While he's stepping over people's shoulders and sitting on the floor

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in the traditional way, in order to convey his greetings to the

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Khalifa we're UNSECO Oh more annual Hadith. Everybody falls

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silent

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will be woody hem low Yachty fauna Menya coronal Heather Rajul. Ella

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the tab to Allah He seemed to shut off was subdued. And they want to

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know who is this man who really seems so dignified and of

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aristocratic bearing.

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And the Khalifa asks who he is. And he replies I am in case even

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Id even out while Hina is in rfl como fi he say that Benny caliber?

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What can delay is Allah Allah nos Ron Yeti so the penny drops is

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before Instagram people have here heard of famous people, they don't

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know who they are, what they look like. And they realize this is the

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Lord of the Benny Kilbourne with the big tribes of Arabia and also

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one of the top Arabic poets of the kind of pre Islamic period

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imminent case. And we still have

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is more Aloka ODEs. Remember that in the Hajj season before the

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arrival of Islam, the big thing that Arabs had in their culture.

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The only thing in their culture really was the poetry and the

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great poets would compete at the market of all cars and the winning

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parents will be held, will be honored by being suspended from

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the drapes of the caliber. So in case a great poet is here, that's

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like, I don't know, Brad Pitt or some other big influence.

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celeb is here.

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But it's not some stupid Hollywood

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character but somebody who has really got to the depths of

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poetry, his capacity to invoke beauty and that poetry was was

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great. What can delay is no Alan Nasir on the Yeti he's still a

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Christian. Not pagan, but But Christian.

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So Omar, amiably engages him in conversation, but of course, he

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has just one thought in his mind. Or you claim hula hoop and yet who

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is even Hadi al Islam the allah God? Will God honor the Khalifa by

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being the one on whose hand in case Eben rd is going to take his

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Shahada. This is of course the way the Khalifa thinks, well as lemme

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say, you do Benny kelp. And the chief of the tribe of kelp, in

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rock base, takes his shahada in that spot.

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And then, you see, this really is about leadership, although we

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haven't done said no more yet. What is their Columbia turret that

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Ameerul Momineen fie and yaki de la Holywell element SMM in Kedah,

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RB Shem. At that moment,

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the Commander of the Faithful appoints him to be the general

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over the tribes of Gwadar, who are in Syria.

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Without Omar be Rompin, Waka Letta, who here and Omar sends out

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for a lance, and in a symbolic gesture, invest him with this

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lots.

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So this,

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of course, amazes everybody, because this is a major

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position of responsibility. So

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if we look at the Arabic Coltrane stick close to the sources, this

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time

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How could there be a wall in your car? Well, easily Rajamouli Saba

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coffin is learned this is on the first meeting. And the man has no

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precedent in Islam. The tradition was that the MaHA Julene and then

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the Tsar that the length of your Islam was a major factor in being

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appointed to a high position that this guy has been a Muslim for a

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few seconds.

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Oh, come on, Allah often hurried and Moray somebody who was there

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have been hydrogen. Well, can a Yama II then be the Mejlis for

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Allah Hemara ayto Raju LAN LEM, your son Li Li la Hira cotton cots

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O'Meara Allah Jamaat in mineral Muslimeen public in real case,

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I've never seen a man who hasn't even prayed a single Racker given

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authority over a group of Muslims the way Christ was given this

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authority

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but

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Omar knew his man. Part of leadership is making the right

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appointments. And then something else happens in this Majlis which

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takes us closer to the subject of our story. So the historians

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report this Tamara I will go more Illa and Rocco Ali ibn Abi to Abi

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Talib Karim Allah Hawa. Yes, they know who Al Asad.

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So the guy leaves and then the people are still kind of dazed by

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the shock of this event. Brad Pitt takes his shahada and becomes a

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Field Marshal and they're processing this

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and then they see Ali ibn Abi Taalib takes his sons and go out

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to follow him or case

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the authority where feed led Harada where she can you hear me

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Lily workbench. echo.rb Sherm so this manager is gonna be carrying

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this Lance, and

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we'll have the ollie on Qatar who had the Andraka imra case. So Ali

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hurries until he catches up with him or case for still cover one

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more year. And he stops him and greets him thumbor to condemnor

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Illa here Hola. And then he goes over to him and says Anna Ali ibn

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Abi Taalib I'm Ali, Ibn Amira Sol Sol Allahu alayhi wa sallam was

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Sahara. I'm the cousin and the son in law of the Holy Prophet were

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her then what a shout out elhassan word for saying and these pointing

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to Al Hassan and Hussein Ebner Yeah, Ben Ben T for Zahara these

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are my two sons by his daughter Fatima

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for acapella in case I love him because he would share case went

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to him and in the courteous Arab tradition you do that to somebody

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but you turn with all of your face and address them so he's he's

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doing this

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what are how em let will I need him in early in the be led lamb

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yoke tabla who shut off or soft Betty he will now material and so

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he fills his eyes with the sight of the family of the Holy Prophet

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that El beit, when he had not himself had the good fortune of

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having been honored by the company of the Prophet and having had the

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blessing of seeing him.

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Whether the m&m be reseller de mundo la Huzzah, and whose

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messenger Hood he believed in

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just a few moments ago and that was his conversion was stotra Ali

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Baba Elan and Ali continues and says what are the raw rib nerf is

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slippery, kapha and Kepner.

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We want to be your relative so Mary into our family. So this is

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an even more startling thing for her tell Bethel Murtala Bertha

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imbroglio case and Carl Emeril case immediately says marhaba and

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become elevated Nebby uncuffed Okay, Ali EvenOr te l mafia. Sama

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Akbar Allah Allah ziptie are Rasul wa who are your live? And catoca?

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Yeah, Hassan sembler binte. In real case, one catoca Hussain,

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Allah Bab inreal case.

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So, Alison, I give you in marriage, my daughter, Selma, and

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FSH, I give you in marriage, my daughter rebab. But in our case,

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now that's in tuber eight, the great early porcelain historian,

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another kind of stunning event, but it's indicative of the

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spontaneity and the instant, Perspicuous judgment that those

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people were capable of. And the fact that if somebody was a new

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Muslim, didn't matter at all, nowadays, oh, my daughter wants to

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marry a convert, but I really think that you should learn blah,

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blah, blah. And that's the kind of Jamelia that we've reverted to.

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But you can see

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that was not the way of these people so

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How old was enamel Hussein, when he marries, I don't rub

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it seems he was eating

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but very famous already for something that usually associated

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with teenagers or Waqar, or dignity and also his physical

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resemblance to the Holy Prophet. People used to say if you want to

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know how to profit look like that. Go look at Al Hussein.

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They said they found the Prophet fragrance in him.

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Allah Bab it seems still a child. The marriage wasn't consummated.

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It's just an engagement. So he says I give you Selma. I'll give

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you our Bab but it's a pledge it's a betregal

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Hallas Hall facility Cindy her toilet that Jill Hallisey that

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will send you her donor tag

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deal with the word she was so young that they couldn't make

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haste to the marriage. So she remains still in her father's

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house and several years passed. And of course, this is the time of

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gigantic political transformations and particularly transformations

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which affect the Olympics, the prophetic house. Tensions in

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Islam, the fitness or kind of Benny Omega moving the Hello beats

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the hijas, Syria and externally on the frontiers as well, immense

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events taking place. So Islam is now on the throne of the Caesars

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and the chars of Persia, the Pharaohs of Egypt, the world is

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really changing.

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And then the Khalifa Ahmed omental, hottub. In year 23, is

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stabbed to death by Abu Lulu and of course, there's enormous

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political crisis. But under oath, man, as we saw in in that paradigm

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lecture, the conquests continue unabated. And in the year 27, and

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has a lot of saying join the army that's going into North Africa

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10,000 Will hygiene in I'm sorry, are in Africa under Abdullah

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inside ibn Abi Surah, one of those amazing genius generals. After

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about two years in the field, they returned victorious to Medina. And

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that's when the city is able to rejoice at the memorable scenes

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marriage to rebab. With all a very simple wedding.

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A child is dawn this is Abdullah ibn Al Hussein and also a

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daughter.

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And then another political shock of a different kind. Hazard off

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man is assassinated, India 35 And then Imam Ali is hailed as his

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successor,

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his two sons by his side, and then his assassinated by the Hawaii

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bridge.

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What Alia is now Khalifa al Hassan seeds authority to him in a formal

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pledging of authority hip nunley Dima in Muslim mean in order to

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save Muslim blood.

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Al Hussein pledges allegiance to more IWEA and joins him in the

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siege of Constantinople in the year 49, which is one of the most

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amazing things that the Sahaba do. They grew up in the desert and in

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Medina and and in their tents around Constantinople, greatest

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city of the world. And of course, the Sahaba buried there to this

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day. That's the the far horizons that these people had. And then he

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returned from the campaign and becomes a hadith instructor in the

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mosque.

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At some point in this time, although we didn't really have a

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date for so Qeynos birth, so kind of Intel Hussein is born you can

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more or less calculate since the historian say she died in the 117

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of the Hijra that she was probably born around 47.

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In other words, about seven years after Imam Ali's assassination and

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into the reign of more Alia, because we told you you died at

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about 70.

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Her name, everybody calls her Sakina there's a big shrine for

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her rather beautiful ancient building in the southern cemetery

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in Cairo. We're not with the added date. Say designup is the famous

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one but there's also a Satan, a FISA,

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and Satan and others. It's quite a beautiful place around the ancient

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Fatimid thought and it's obviously concerned with Alan Bates. So the

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buildings tend to be from the period. There's different names

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for her, which is not uncommon at the time. Sometimes she was called

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omega, which is a common Arabic girl's name.

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If it had been on her passport, of course, it would have been Amina

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Bintelli, for seen. Named after the Holy Prophets mother, Amina

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bint Wahab, but a mother rebab as mothers do when she was small gave

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her a nickname, The nickname was Sakina or sometimes Sakeena.

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Because the old Arabic texts are not given vows. We can't be

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entirely sure whether it's to Cana or Sakina.

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And here there is a kind of irony because Sakina Sakina is no Arabic

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word that indicates serenity and peace more than Sakina But

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actually she was throughout her life, an incredibly active and

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vivacious person and was we are told like that also as a child.

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Ursula delivered will

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always gazes and kisses came in her direction. We're told and she

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had she was famous for her mother. She was a child who really liked

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Have fun and games. So why would she give them the nicknames Cana

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Sakeena. Muslims now remember her by well, some some historians

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speculate that it's because she brought with her sort of fumbling

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around and have fun and games peace into the prophetic house at

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a time of external turbulence or that people felt Sakina peace when

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they looked at her.

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It was a time of trauma of course and her joyfulness was a great

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compensation when she was only three, her uncle Emmanuel Hassan

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died.

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We because we have, as I say, quite a lot of information about

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this even in terms of family life. It's clear that Imam Al Hussein

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was really really devoted to his women folk.

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And he was sometimes reproached for this. Some of the Arabs sort

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of absorbed uxorious nature is not really what we expect of a hero

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but he replied,

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with a poem which has been preserved from Imam

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Hossein la marina Nila or him Buddha and today for her Sakina

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tone wala babble, or hey boo, Huma Abdullah about an early release.

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Lila me fee her i terrible. Wallace Tula home in Otter, Boo

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Mati and piety, oh, your Eboni to rob boo, which means something

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like by my life, I love a house in whom, in which Sakeena and rebab

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are the guests. I love both of them, and I spend my money in

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their support. And I do not accept the reproach of anybody who would

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reproach me for that.

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And this is my life, and I will not obey the reproaches

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until the time when the dust

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covers me.

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This is narrated in many of the early texts of Arabic, Persian

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indicates that he clearly was not interested in the kind of sort of

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more tribal macho

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thoughts that you didn't really have a sort of strong affection

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for the women of your house.

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Sometimes it's thought that this reproach to remember has been

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spent a lot of time with his family is based on the idea that

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some people thought that he should have been taking a more active

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political interest in the affairs of his time he's spending all the

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time at home with your family and your little girl. You know that

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the Muslim ummah needs you that kind of reproach seems to have

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been around, but he's not going to

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put up with that. We know that Sakina actually in her kind of

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running about the house and playfulness, always tried to avoid

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discussing the things that visitors were discussing other

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political clouds that were gathering in order to give him

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some Sakina at home, but

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she was following the news and was very affected by the news because

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of the risks that it posed to her family. Well, kinder her mother

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saw me i Czechia wala wrote yet back here. She was never heard to

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complain, nor was she known to be tearful.

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Now, she has a sister, Fatima. And they're really, really different.

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Sometimes, if she was asked, why is it that you're both daughters

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of the same father, and you're so unlike forgotten or thought and

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has always in a corner, praying and remembering the akhirah and

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Sakina is kind of rolling around the house. Giggling as it was

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because of our names. You named Fatima after her grandmother, and

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you named me after Fatima's grandmother. She spent most of her

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life

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the Jackie Lyon world of poetry. So, Fatima was the the austere

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figure. An example of slightly edgy rip party that she was famous

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for. Fontenot is said to have been more beautiful than Sakina but

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didn't have her kind of playful spirit.

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There's various family reasons for that. Before the marriage, her

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mother had been through a very difficult divorce before that,

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that's one explanation that they offer.

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So she has a sister Fatima, who's very different. And she has her

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brother Abdullah, who we've already mentioned, she has her

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have brothers as well. Imam Hussein has other wives.

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These are important in the history of the debate. There's Al Akbar.

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His mother is woman called Leila Ben Abby model at a soccer field.

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And his mother is

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MIA Moana bent. Abby, Sophia and Ben harp, need to think about that

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if you look at their marriages, you can then start to step back

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from some of the later kind of conflict to a readings of what's

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happening at that period. We think all the Umayyads are against the

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added bait and they hate the Sophia needs and it's all kind of

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like two families feuding with each other.

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It's easy to forget that Imam Ali

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had a son called Abu Bakr and another son called Omar, this is

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mentioned by all of the historians, these later

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projections of a simple dichotomy between Sunni and Shia in this

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period, nobody would have understood any of that you might

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have your political preferences, I think he should be highly I think

00:31:05 --> 00:31:08

he should be ready for. But the idea that this was some kind of

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cosmic split or battle between light and dark was just just

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wouldn't have been recognized. And the later doctrines, the doctrines

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of the later infallible Imams and so forth in this generation, it's

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just

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a historical to say that these would have been understood. So

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note, Imam Hussain is marrying into women from Abu Sofia Ann's

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family, and that doesn't seem to be

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a problem.

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Yet another son, Ali Al Asad, Ali Akbar and Ali Asghar, the greater

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and the younger Ali, and Ali Al Oscar is no more usually as Ali's

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in Aladdin.

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And she's interesting because she's born to saliva, who is the

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daughter of Yezdi gear two is the last of the Persian Emperor's.

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So this is even marrying outside the Arabian world into the Persian

00:32:05 --> 00:32:09

world. So even though we think added baked the lineage purity,

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this is not what the excellent beat actually means. It's not some

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kind of perfectly maintained DNA.

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It's, even if it's half a drop of the prophetic blood that is fully

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sufficient to convey full membership of the ad and beat how

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that particular quality was transmitted. It's impossible to

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know but I've been to a village and in Bosnia, up in the cloud,

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central Bosnia, and the tradition there is that only the added baits

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are allowed to live in the village.

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You go to the village and all the kids have blonde hair and

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Allen bait

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so this has been an important spiritual principle in in the

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Muslim world. So the Persian blood is being honored by this marriage

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as well through Ali Xin Aberdeen.

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One of her sisters, Marissa, Mohammed, Ben had the backer, the

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son of Abu Bakr so again, the idea is, there isn't this kind of

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rivalry? It's about a political allegiance is not about anything

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else.

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So Alexandra Aberdeen is about eight or nine years older than

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Sakina known as a very austere child and like her play much he

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was called the Tsar head of the family. So remember for saying has

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four sons and two daughters, the daughters again for ultimate and

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so Cana, but it's pretty clear that Sakina is his favorite.

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Remember in his poem he says that AnnMarie in the little hippo data

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and tacos will be has to Cana turn water rabada I love any house

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which contains Sakina and his wife are a Bab

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now the politics are the cloud on the horizon for years before more

00:34:03 --> 00:34:08

Alia dies what how he appoints his son years Eid as his heir

00:34:08 --> 00:34:14

apparent, and this looks even more problematic in many mosque going

00:34:15 --> 00:34:21

circles in the year 60 years Eid takes over. Memel Hussain is in

00:34:21 --> 00:34:25

Makkah teaching Hadith not talking about politics

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but regarded as a potential rival by Yazeed and Sakina. Now, this is

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really when she comes

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into her own, not quite debutantes.

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1920s concept, but she's 13 and she's already known in Makkah as

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quite a personality.

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She used to roam around Macau, she loved to visit the places

00:34:52 --> 00:34:56

associated with the Sahaba and also learning from the city's

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great poetic heritage. She has a kind of mind that can Hoover

00:35:00 --> 00:35:03

up poetry and she's a very good critic.

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This is kind of aristocratic Millia. Many of the coloration,

00:35:09 --> 00:35:14

there are kinds of aficionados of poetry. And there is a strong kind

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of saddled culture of people sitting around and reciting poetry

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to each other. And really, really enjoying it.

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You can still see that in traditional Arab places, I very

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soon got out of my depth in Cairo when these old guys were sitting

00:35:30 --> 00:35:35

around, and somebody would recite along passleader, from some 12th

00:35:35 --> 00:35:40

century Iraqi poet. Another thing was that you could only interrupt

00:35:40 --> 00:35:44

that person, when you had another Crusader that was in the same

00:35:44 --> 00:35:49

meter, and was using the same figures, sort of alliteration or

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something, and then it was your turn.

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So I never managed to interrupt.

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But it is it's the great kind of cultural thing of the Arabs, their

00:35:59 --> 00:36:02

language and their poetry. And this was certainly something that

00:36:02 --> 00:36:03

she was getting into.

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In in Makkah, at the age of only 13, or the Hajj was a great

00:36:10 --> 00:36:13

opportunity to learn from poets coming from wherever and the

00:36:13 --> 00:36:16

Hydrangea 60 was a significant one, because of course, this is

00:36:16 --> 00:36:20

where the the hill effort is changing. And there's political

00:36:20 --> 00:36:26

emissaries, spies. fifth column lists store pigeons coming from

00:36:26 --> 00:36:30

Iraq and from Syria, just keep an eye on the hijackers and

00:36:30 --> 00:36:32

particularly on the debate.

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But she's not involved with that she's, as it were, having her

00:36:37 --> 00:36:41

career launched as a sort of literary phenomenon. And not just

00:36:41 --> 00:36:45

literary phenomenon. And here is where some modern Puritans might

00:36:45 --> 00:36:48

scratch their heads, even though it's documented in all of the

00:36:48 --> 00:36:53

history, she's a kind of style icon. All of the teenage girls in

00:36:53 --> 00:36:58

Makkah want to be like Sakina. When she walks in the way she

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dresses, and there's even a hairstyle, a toddler, so cania,

00:37:02 --> 00:37:07

which is a particular curl in the hair, and kind of all the girls in

00:37:07 --> 00:37:12

Macau want to be like that. So that the current sort of what you

00:37:12 --> 00:37:17

call influences nowadays, that you get on YouTube that you think is

00:37:17 --> 00:37:21

just a sign of the times, teenage girls do tend to do that kind of

00:37:21 --> 00:37:28

thing. So you know, this 16 year old who has 5 million views on

00:37:28 --> 00:37:30

YouTube or something and all she does is

00:37:31 --> 00:37:35

unbox a new handbag or something. And everybody's like, Oh my god,

00:37:35 --> 00:37:36

oh my god.

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That makes you despair. But it is part of human culture. And this

00:37:43 --> 00:37:47

was not being suffocated and Makana teenage girls, and NACA,

00:37:47 --> 00:37:51

considered Sakina to be the great influence her because she was just

00:37:51 --> 00:37:54

so stylish, and she knew poetry and she knew the songs and

00:37:55 --> 00:37:58

so that imitate her style of speech. And they'd like to poems

00:37:58 --> 00:38:00

and the songs that she would know.

00:38:02 --> 00:38:05

She was known to be really intelligent, very stylish, very

00:38:05 --> 00:38:06

cool.

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But, yeah, this the style, the Sakina style was a kind of

00:38:13 --> 00:38:18

phenomenon in the hijas in that time, and

00:38:24 --> 00:38:28

yep, so here's a historians account of when she was a young

00:38:28 --> 00:38:33

teenager what either candidate he said or what age at year one, and

00:38:33 --> 00:38:38

yet hood now under the balloon Melania, which Allah Tala or Nora

00:38:38 --> 00:38:43

Nebby forgot Bucky at La Nevada Delica and aka to her you can

00:38:43 --> 00:38:48

listen to her face almost a tongue. So all of the beautiful

00:38:48 --> 00:38:49

women of Quraysh

00:38:51 --> 00:38:57

were struggling to learn the nobility of her gestures and the

00:38:57 --> 00:39:03

majesty of her stature, posture perhaps, and the prophetic light

00:39:03 --> 00:39:04

which was in her

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and after that, they were fascinated by her elegance and aka

00:39:10 --> 00:39:12

your allegiance to her faithfulness to Tatiana they would

00:39:13 --> 00:39:18

emulate her elegance whenever they could, or share it told her it is

00:39:18 --> 00:39:23

to cania so this Sakina Sakina style of hairstyle became very

00:39:23 --> 00:39:28

widespread. For Linda by Wahida tone Minh Hana, learn to necec

00:39:28 --> 00:39:32

Shadow her Allah Namath and was status. So there wasn't a girl in

00:39:32 --> 00:39:35

Makkah who didn't rearrange her hair according to this new style,

00:39:36 --> 00:39:41

and love the IP to that IP to the ATO and her she Mia to hasna which

00:39:41 --> 00:39:46

is beautiful Hashemite girl had invented. What are humble stammer

00:39:46 --> 00:39:50

and mucky Yadi for V. Banerjee author on the mortgage of Fareed

00:39:50 --> 00:39:55

and every everyone in makin society was aware in their own

00:39:55 --> 00:39:59

daughters of the influence of this remarkable style leader

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Well, you'll see Allama Tanaka, Lu Amin and a lot of he had one or

00:40:05 --> 00:40:08

the other but he had the guillotine marry her. And the talk

00:40:08 --> 00:40:14

of the town was of her wit, and her jokes and her

00:40:17 --> 00:40:20

playful intelligence. So she's

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young but already

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an influencer. Of course, inevitably, all the young men in

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Macau want to marry her.

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The only one who took a practical step was somebody called Alison

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and Athena, who is the son and now of Imam Hassan so her cousin.

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So he goes along to Imam Hussain to try his chances and historians

00:40:48 --> 00:40:51

unfortunately didn't really tell us what happened in that

00:40:52 --> 00:40:57

encounter. But we know that Imam Hussain answered him like this.

00:40:58 --> 00:41:00

So he says, Can I marry your daughter

00:41:01 --> 00:41:06

miltefosine says if time to laka eternity Fatima for here, UK

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

thorugh Abner Teja. Chabot Han be all me fault him up into

00:41:09 --> 00:41:13

Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in the hair there to join

00:41:13 --> 00:41:14

in with Jamal.

00:41:15 --> 00:41:19

So he replies I've chosen for you. My daughter thought Emma. Because

00:41:19 --> 00:41:23

of my two daughters. She's the one who most resembles my mother

00:41:23 --> 00:41:26

Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Messenger.

00:41:27 --> 00:41:31

She is the mistress of religion and beauty.

00:41:32 --> 00:41:36

So we don't know what went wrong. Maybe the young man's confusion

00:41:36 --> 00:41:39

had forgotten to mention which daughter he wanted to marry.

00:41:41 --> 00:41:43

We don't really know. But this is Imam.

00:41:45 --> 00:41:49

Hussein's view. And then interestingly, look at what the

00:41:49 --> 00:41:52

girl's father then says we're enmasse Sakina.

00:41:53 --> 00:41:59

As for Sakina, for volleyball, and Elena is still an Akuma Allah for

00:41:59 --> 00:42:07

Allah TouchFLO. Holy Raju. She's overcome by her connection to God,

00:42:08 --> 00:42:11

and she is not suitable for any man.

00:42:14 --> 00:42:18

So all the teenage girls in Makkah think, Oh, my God, I want to be

00:42:18 --> 00:42:22

like Sakina. And she does this. The father who really knows her

00:42:22 --> 00:42:26

says she's with God, not suitable for marriage, at least not not at

00:42:26 --> 00:42:30

this time. So that seems paradoxical. But her father knew

00:42:30 --> 00:42:36

her and believed or saw that her kind of stylishness and her humor

00:42:36 --> 00:42:41

was reflex designed to raise the spirit of the family after the

00:42:41 --> 00:42:46

disasters that had befall and in other words, it was kind of put on

00:42:46 --> 00:42:50

to some extent, let me cheer up dad by telling him some crazy joke

00:42:50 --> 00:42:54

about a cow that fell over, who knows but just cheer him up

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

because he's getting so much bad news.

00:42:58 --> 00:43:02

And in private, it seems he recognized that she would throw

00:43:02 --> 00:43:06

herself into private devotions and steal the rock which means I'm

00:43:06 --> 00:43:11

drowning in devotion or the Divine Presence and it's really important

00:43:11 --> 00:43:16

to bear this in mind in order for sane was speaking frankly, and

00:43:16 --> 00:43:17

knew his daughter

00:43:19 --> 00:43:24

and didn't say no, she's she's in the tool or she has to superfood

00:43:24 --> 00:43:28

new. He said she's with God.

00:43:29 --> 00:43:32

And it's important because often later in the history of Arabic

00:43:32 --> 00:43:36

literature says remember this this kind of stylish

00:43:38 --> 00:43:43

fashion icon who really hangs out with poets and singers.

00:43:45 --> 00:43:50

Not very serious. But that wasn't her father's judgment and others

00:43:50 --> 00:43:56

do say that she was monitorable methyl fit Taku our Eman she was

00:43:57 --> 00:44:01

proverbially pious and believing.

00:44:04 --> 00:44:07

Now, some people say well she became

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11

she was passed on her father was alive and then he died. She got

00:44:11 --> 00:44:14

into poetry and singing and stuff but we know when she was an early

00:44:14 --> 00:44:17

teenager when she was still in remember Hussein's house that she

00:44:17 --> 00:44:17

was

00:44:19 --> 00:44:22

doing these things in in Morocco. In any case.

00:44:24 --> 00:44:28

It has an authentic that gets to marry Fatah that marriage does go

00:44:28 --> 00:44:34

ahead, so Cana stays in her father's house. Now everybody in

00:44:34 --> 00:44:40

Makkah now knows of Sakina let us know holy Raju she she's not

00:44:40 --> 00:44:44

suitable for any man with a memorable scene himself has said

00:44:45 --> 00:44:47

of his daughter so of course the young men are now

00:44:48 --> 00:44:50

kind of confused.

00:44:52 --> 00:44:55

And the interests of the young man movement diminish some thought she

00:44:55 --> 00:44:59

just above me and she's great granddaughter of the Prophet and

00:44:59 --> 00:44:59

she's you

00:45:00 --> 00:45:03

We need to prayer and stuff and all the teenage girls are into her

00:45:03 --> 00:45:07

shoes or whatever. But none of her saints they see something

00:45:08 --> 00:45:08

different.

00:45:09 --> 00:45:13

Some it said fell into yes or despair. They just couldn't bear

00:45:13 --> 00:45:18

it. She wasn't available. But others were cheering, cherishing

00:45:18 --> 00:45:22

the hope. And one of them was a really significant local young man

00:45:22 --> 00:45:27

called Musab ibn Zubayr. Who is this again from the family of Abu

00:45:27 --> 00:45:34

Bakr, Siddiq Zubayr. It's our opponents of the money or MATT

00:45:34 --> 00:45:39

Yeah, they're from Abu Bakr. And his father is Zubayr Obernai worm,

00:45:39 --> 00:45:44

who's one of the great Sahaba and who is the grandson of Hawaii

00:45:44 --> 00:45:49

lead, who is the father of Khadija. So many of these people

00:45:49 --> 00:45:53

are related and famous in a kind of traditional Arab way for his

00:45:53 --> 00:45:59

generosity, that his courage for his furusiyya is horsemanship, and

00:45:59 --> 00:46:04

for Moruga generally, the kind of chivalric male ideal virtue of the

00:46:04 --> 00:46:06

Arab. So it said that

00:46:07 --> 00:46:12

if he thought that drinking water would detract from his manliness,

00:46:13 --> 00:46:17

he'd give up water. People used to kind of always think he went to

00:46:17 --> 00:46:18

excess in

00:46:20 --> 00:46:23

in this sort of chivalric virtue. So

00:46:24 --> 00:46:26

three of his friends

00:46:27 --> 00:46:32

discover that he is in love with Sakina and has this kind of

00:46:33 --> 00:46:36

hopeless hope. One of his one is his brother, Ottawa. Urbanears

00:46:36 --> 00:46:42

debayer. Now the important Sahabi. But he doesn't venture to propose

00:46:42 --> 00:46:46

right away, perhaps because he can see that the family is really

00:46:46 --> 00:46:48

preoccupied with the political situation, he doesn't want to

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

trouble Imam Hussein, or perhaps because you know, she's still in

00:46:51 --> 00:46:53

her mid teens at the time, she's young.

00:46:55 --> 00:46:58

And then this news breaks that Fatima is going to get married.

00:46:58 --> 00:47:03

And that Memphis, Cena said of Sakina into her letter, sloppily,

00:47:03 --> 00:47:07

Raju, she's not suited. She's not eligible for any man.

00:47:08 --> 00:47:13

And then he changes his mind about proposing to her because he has

00:47:13 --> 00:47:18

this kind of pride and dignity. And he thinks that his reputation

00:47:18 --> 00:47:23

will be forever broken. If he's rejected, he can't stand the

00:47:23 --> 00:47:26

scandal, he goes to somebody asking for his daughter in

00:47:26 --> 00:47:30

marriage. And he's declined. And he said he could never carry that.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:36

So he says, he now has to fight his love, death would be better

00:47:36 --> 00:47:37

than rejection.

00:47:39 --> 00:47:44

And there's other stories of maca at the time, the sensation that

00:47:44 --> 00:47:47

she was causing, one of them is Ahmad ibn Abi Robbie,

00:47:48 --> 00:47:54

who is maybe the greatest poet of his early Islamic period. He is

00:47:54 --> 00:47:58

called Omar and actually his born on the day said that Omar dies.

00:47:59 --> 00:48:00

And

00:48:01 --> 00:48:05

there's an ongoing controversy in the study of Arabic literature as

00:48:05 --> 00:48:10

to whether his poems, which are all love poems, he doesn't have

00:48:10 --> 00:48:14

any other theme. And it's D word of poems from the great monument

00:48:14 --> 00:48:17

of Arabic literature is all about his exploits with with women,

00:48:18 --> 00:48:22

whether some of them are actually about Sakina. And this is a big

00:48:22 --> 00:48:26

argument in modern sort of Egyptian faculties of Arabic

00:48:26 --> 00:48:29

literature. Beginning of the 20th century, somebody called Zacky.

00:48:29 --> 00:48:34

Mubarak says, well, Omar actually was this kind of Don Giovanni and

00:48:34 --> 00:48:38

he's got all of these girls names in his poems. I mean, Ali, not

00:48:38 --> 00:48:42

Amin, Anta Hardin for morbid kyrou Or that Rodan Umrah Han femoral

00:48:42 --> 00:48:47

head Giro, you heard it enough cylinder cool fijo, Bihar, the

00:48:47 --> 00:48:52

tubular Alderaan, one Nacala to toe the Rosa. Yes, this it's great

00:48:52 --> 00:48:55

poetry and he's talking here about a girl called Nam. And he's

00:48:55 --> 00:48:59

talking to some random traveler, he meets on the road, have you

00:48:59 --> 00:49:04

come from the tents of norm? Has she got any answer for me? Even if

00:49:04 --> 00:49:06

it's no, that means that she's thinking about me this kind of

00:49:06 --> 00:49:12

stuff, and goes on and of course these things usually end unhappy.

00:49:16 --> 00:49:21

So there's, there's a verse in which she says, Every time I go

00:49:21 --> 00:49:25

near her tents, her relatives are crouching around like tigers

00:49:27 --> 00:49:31

and ends up and then the last third of the poem. This is rather

00:49:31 --> 00:49:33

beautiful description of the desert and the animals.

00:49:35 --> 00:49:38

A bit of a downer at the end, but all of his posts are like the anti

00:49:38 --> 00:49:42

sometimes names these women and in many cases, you can identify them

00:49:42 --> 00:49:47

with actual sort of famous, usually Qureshi beauties of the

00:49:47 --> 00:49:51

time. So there's a controversy. This guy's hacky Mubarak at the

00:49:51 --> 00:49:55

beginning of the 20th century on the second person initiative says

00:49:55 --> 00:49:56

yeah, this is how it was.

00:49:58 --> 00:50:00

Medina was in the

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

grip of a very sort of luxurious

00:50:05 --> 00:50:11

and indulgent age. And they were just doing solid women and fashion

00:50:11 --> 00:50:16

and why it's the Benny or Maya who wanted to keep them from thinking

00:50:16 --> 00:50:19

about politics or do send them slave girls and poets, and it kind

00:50:19 --> 00:50:24

of got distracted by this. Rather like if you're the king of Gulf

00:50:24 --> 00:50:26

country at the moment, and you want people to stop joining up,

00:50:26 --> 00:50:30

either you get Mariah Carey or somebody to sing, and somehow this

00:50:30 --> 00:50:32

is supposed to stop young people thinking about.

00:50:34 --> 00:50:37

So this is one one theory. But more recently,

00:50:38 --> 00:50:42

Tara Husayn for instance, mid 20th century, didn't like this quite so

00:50:42 --> 00:50:46

much. He thought it was a little unlikely. And then one of the

00:50:46 --> 00:50:47

great

00:50:48 --> 00:50:52

writers about early women in Islam, who actually has a book on

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

Sakina, if you know Arabic, I can recommend it. It's got a careful

00:50:55 --> 00:51:01

book. She was called. Abdurrahman known her nom de plume was been to

00:51:01 --> 00:51:06

shot it, the daughter of the Riverside because she was from

00:51:06 --> 00:51:11

Domi out which is one of the mounts of of the Nile. And she

00:51:11 --> 00:51:15

became a professor of literature, the girl's College of ancients

00:51:15 --> 00:51:19

University in Cairo, and writes about a lot of the early women of

00:51:19 --> 00:51:23

Islam. She has a book on cedars Xena, and also is one of the few

00:51:23 --> 00:51:26

women in Islamic history to have completed a full Tafseer of the

00:51:26 --> 00:51:27

Quran.

00:51:29 --> 00:51:34

And she pushes back against this she has this idea that men should

00:51:34 --> 00:51:36

never write biographies of women.

00:51:37 --> 00:51:39

Okay, she's professor of literature, but she's not a

00:51:39 --> 00:51:43

feminist. She's you can't really understand how women's lives

00:51:43 --> 00:51:46

operate unless you're a woman yourself. And so in her book, she

00:51:46 --> 00:51:47

often says

00:51:48 --> 00:51:51

the stories have been written by men. And they think she's some

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

kind of airheaded person who's into singing and fashion, but they

00:51:54 --> 00:51:57

don't really understand woman's experience and the

00:51:59 --> 00:52:01

woman's mind as she calls it.

00:52:02 --> 00:52:09

So this is a debate and for Ben to shut it off. Omar is kind of part

00:52:09 --> 00:52:10

of a culture of

00:52:11 --> 00:52:16

a sophisticated enjoyment of beauty, but it's not really

00:52:16 --> 00:52:21

talking about actual experiences. I lifted the flap of her tent, and

00:52:22 --> 00:52:26

that didn't happen. It's a kind of fiction.

00:52:27 --> 00:52:33

That is the basis for the subsequent history of Islam and

00:52:33 --> 00:52:36

amatory verse, which I want to talk about later on. We do the

00:52:36 --> 00:52:38

biography first, because

00:52:39 --> 00:52:42

unless we understand this literary context, we won't really get a

00:52:42 --> 00:52:47

sense of achievement and how she is remembered. So Ahmed, Ibn Abi

00:52:47 --> 00:52:54

Robbie, writes these amazing poems, and some of them maybe are

00:52:54 --> 00:52:58

about her. Maybe not, there aren't any solid manuscripts that

00:52:58 --> 00:53:03

indicate that her name so Cana is in any of his poems. Definitely.

00:53:03 --> 00:53:05

They seem to be in some manuscripts with any of another

00:53:05 --> 00:53:10

manuscripts in poem and it's not Sakina it's Seder. Nobody can

00:53:10 --> 00:53:11

really tell.

00:53:13 --> 00:53:16

But in any case, at this Hajj takes place and it's a great

00:53:16 --> 00:53:19

literary festival as well. And then famously during the Hajj.

00:53:19 --> 00:53:24

10,000 warriors of Iraq turn up some say 40,000 saying, we're

00:53:24 --> 00:53:30

going to defend the LGBT and Iraq from this guy years Eid in

00:53:30 --> 00:53:33

Damascus, come and join us in Kufa

00:53:35 --> 00:53:41

the Sahaba and it seems his family urged Imam Hussain not to do this.

00:53:42 --> 00:53:46

His brother Mohammed Abdullah Hanafi urges him not to do this

00:53:46 --> 00:53:48

Abdullah bin iBurst urges him not to do this but

00:53:49 --> 00:53:51

he brings his family

00:53:52 --> 00:53:57

on the long journey from Makkah to Kufa which is to where the

00:53:57 --> 00:54:02

governors of Iraq reside. So she has this last vision of of the

00:54:02 --> 00:54:06

city of Mecca from behind the curtains of the Howard edge the

00:54:06 --> 00:54:10

litter on which is riding on her camel and they go to

00:54:11 --> 00:54:16

Iraq and the story of Karbala is a little bit outside topic, but

00:54:16 --> 00:54:18

she's there so we need to mention it briefly.

00:54:20 --> 00:54:21

Which is one of the witnesses to what happened.

00:54:23 --> 00:54:27

They in camp outside Kufa or there's the Iraqi army.

00:54:28 --> 00:54:32

But the Iraqi army is not on this side. And they get this

00:54:33 --> 00:54:37

one of the most pathetic letters in history message from the people

00:54:37 --> 00:54:41

of Kufa saying Our hearts are with you, but our swords are against

00:54:41 --> 00:54:41

you.

00:54:44 --> 00:54:47

So it all for saying is there with the people have come with him said

00:54:47 --> 00:54:53

to be 73 and the Syrians and Iraqis and the 10,000 heroes you

00:54:53 --> 00:54:56

know, thinking better of their pledge of allegiance and

00:54:58 --> 00:54:59

we all know that can

00:55:00 --> 00:55:04

Amity that that happens and the enamel for signs women folk are

00:55:04 --> 00:55:07

there are above his wife is that in a tent in the middle of this

00:55:07 --> 00:55:14

little encampment. And as I said, sister zeyneb Is there and Sakina

00:55:14 --> 00:55:19

is and some other women. And the night before the battle,

00:55:20 --> 00:55:26

Xena goes out to famous story and she hears Alpha seine reciting

00:55:26 --> 00:55:29

poems that indicate that he's expecting death tomorrow, his

00:55:29 --> 00:55:33

there, sharpening his sword getting his armor ready and

00:55:33 --> 00:55:37

hearing this she screams. Middle of the night people hear sadism

00:55:37 --> 00:55:40

screaming and the other woman comes saying what's happening.

00:55:41 --> 00:55:45

And He then tells the women that if he dies, they are not to do the

00:55:45 --> 00:55:48

traditional morning things. They're not to slap their cheeks.

00:55:48 --> 00:55:51

They're not to tear their clothes. Well let her own the hedgehog

00:55:52 --> 00:55:56

don't say anything inappropriate. And the women lower their heads

00:55:56 --> 00:55:56

and agree.

00:55:58 --> 00:56:04

And then their silence. And then one of the women has had crying

00:56:04 --> 00:56:05

and it's Sakina.

00:56:06 --> 00:56:10

And obviously in reproaches her and says you're always the one

00:56:10 --> 00:56:14

who's to cheer me up. And then he tells her about to take care of

00:56:14 --> 00:56:19

her late teens, but Mum still has to do this. And then he leaves

00:56:19 --> 00:56:21

them stands up to pray.

00:56:22 --> 00:56:23

They're in the tent.

00:56:24 --> 00:56:29

And the next day the conflict begins. And they hear this noise,

00:56:29 --> 00:56:32

the clashing of swords and the screaming and the shouting and the

00:56:32 --> 00:56:36

chanting around the tent there in the tent quite dark because it

00:56:36 --> 00:56:37

tends to move camelhair and

00:56:39 --> 00:56:43

but around them, there's the heat and catastrophe and then the flap

00:56:43 --> 00:56:47

of the tent is roughly pooled, and they're told to get out.

00:56:49 --> 00:56:54

And so Cana sees the light of day, and she sees the bodies of the

00:56:54 --> 00:56:57

heroes lying everywhere. There's the body of her father. Remember

00:56:57 --> 00:57:04

Hussein, his uncle's brother, Abdullah Hussein is the dead

00:57:04 --> 00:57:09

brother half brothers Al Akbar Jafar other family members, which

00:57:09 --> 00:57:13

is a family goal. These are the people she loves most all dead.

00:57:15 --> 00:57:19

Some historians say that she threw herself on her father's body

00:57:19 --> 00:57:23

before the soldiers pull her away and make her walk

00:57:24 --> 00:57:27

barefoot with the other prisoners to Kufa.

00:57:30 --> 00:57:33

She recite some poetry and the interesting things about Seder

00:57:33 --> 00:57:37

Sakina is that even though she's in this poetic world, not much of

00:57:37 --> 00:57:42

her poetry has been preserved except laments, really, this is

00:57:42 --> 00:57:43

the one for her.

00:57:44 --> 00:57:47

While she has one for her father, and another a bab.

00:57:49 --> 00:57:49

The widow

00:57:53 --> 00:57:54

has also lost her son

00:57:56 --> 00:57:58

is reciting this on the way

00:57:59 --> 00:58:04

to Kufa in the lady Cannanore and you're stood out will be he be

00:58:04 --> 00:58:11

Karbala aka T lon virome at phony sympton the BU desert con la sala

00:58:11 --> 00:58:16

Hatton Anna, what do you need to Hassan and my wasini but currently

00:58:16 --> 00:58:23

jubbaland Saben ellos will be he will come to Cibona B RAF me what?

00:58:23 --> 00:58:29

Dini a contract has trouble now be rough me what? Dini manlier term?

00:58:29 --> 00:58:31

Woman Alyssa ed in a woman

00:58:32 --> 00:58:36

yovani why we Illa he couldn't your knee? Well, yet we Illa he

00:58:36 --> 00:58:41

called me skinny calling. So this is Rob ABS lament as she's going

00:58:41 --> 00:58:45

to Kufa and it's addressed to her dead husband.

00:58:47 --> 00:58:52

The one who was a light from which people sought guidance lies now on

00:58:52 --> 00:58:55

the field of Karbala, dead and unburied,

00:58:57 --> 00:59:02

the grandson of the Prophet, may God reward you in the best way on

00:59:02 --> 00:59:06

our behalf. And may you be spared any loss but the balance?

00:59:07 --> 00:59:12

For me you used to be a strong mountain, you are the one in whom

00:59:12 --> 00:59:18

I sought protection. And you used to keep my company with mercy and

00:59:18 --> 00:59:23

religion who now will help the orphans and the beggars and who

00:59:23 --> 00:59:24

will

00:59:25 --> 00:59:31

and who will now protect all of the poor. This is some of the

00:59:31 --> 00:59:32

poetry that

00:59:33 --> 00:59:37

to Martha is a an energy in Arabic. They go to Kufa and

00:59:38 --> 00:59:43

they're taken to Damascus and shown to Yazeed one of us eats

00:59:43 --> 00:59:49

courtiers asks if he can take Sakina as a slave and Yazeed won't

00:59:49 --> 00:59:53

go this far and refuses and finally lessons into retirement.

00:59:53 --> 00:59:58

They go back to Medina, the led by Ali's Angel Aberdeen, who has been

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

sick and doesn't

01:00:00 --> 01:00:04

Isn't killed at the massacre they enter the city and the crowds of

01:00:04 --> 01:00:10

course are there to welcome them. And then another of the women of

01:00:10 --> 01:00:15

the Elevate in Medina stands up in the crowd and she has a poem

01:00:17 --> 01:00:18

as well

01:00:21 --> 01:00:24

where's it gone so Zainab bint appeal even ABI Taalib

01:00:26 --> 01:00:32

mother taco Luna in Colin B EULA ko murder for two and a half year

01:00:32 --> 01:00:39

old umami. B it will be le Bardem of taka de min been home or Sara

01:00:39 --> 01:00:44

Wyoming Home Depot Brittany McKenna Heather just in the SatoLA

01:00:44 --> 01:00:49

calm and Turkey for navy. So in vita, we Rahimi

01:00:50 --> 01:00:51

which means something like

01:00:52 --> 01:00:57

what should you say? If the Prophet has said to you, what will

01:00:57 --> 01:01:03

you do when you are the last of the Omers by my family and by my

01:01:03 --> 01:01:10

kin, after this loss of them, now I see them as war captives, some

01:01:10 --> 01:01:12

of them stained with blood.

01:01:13 --> 01:01:18

This should not be my reward, after I have counseled you, that

01:01:21 --> 01:01:23

to look after my family after I am gone.

01:01:24 --> 01:01:28

This is a famous moment this see you there standing up in the crowd

01:01:28 --> 01:01:33

at Medina and reciting this poem. So in Medina, for about takes a

01:01:33 --> 01:01:39

house and Sakina stays there after about a year or about dies, and

01:01:39 --> 01:01:41

they say that she died of grief.

01:01:42 --> 01:01:46

Families really urging Sakina now to marry in order to have children

01:01:46 --> 01:01:51

continue that prophetic line. Felt Fatima is in the home of her

01:01:51 --> 01:01:53

husband at Hasson and within

01:01:54 --> 01:01:57

and so Cana does Mary and in fact Mary's quite a few times, which

01:01:57 --> 01:02:01

was quite normal in those days. And unfortunately here, the

01:02:01 --> 01:02:06

historians are really in a tangle and it's very hard to see who she

01:02:06 --> 01:02:11

marries first in what order or for how long. They tend to focus on

01:02:11 --> 01:02:15

interesting anecdotes about her life, some of her humor, and some

01:02:15 --> 01:02:20

of her poetry. It's really difficult to untangle this. The

01:02:20 --> 01:02:25

Kitab Avani, for instance, is one of the great medieval dozens of

01:02:25 --> 01:02:28

volumes collections of medieval Arabic songs and poems and stories

01:02:28 --> 01:02:29

about the poet

01:02:30 --> 01:02:33

gives five different lists of names of people of men who have

01:02:33 --> 01:02:37

married her so it's really hard to work it out. Most of the lists,

01:02:37 --> 01:02:42

however, include the name of Mossad, Ivanov Zubair remember the

01:02:42 --> 01:02:45

one who was thinking hoping to marry her earlier

01:02:46 --> 01:02:50

and even Callie can have many the historian say that probably he was

01:02:50 --> 01:02:55

her first husband, so we have this

01:02:57 --> 01:02:58

it seems to have been a happy marriage

01:03:07 --> 01:03:12

yeah, there's lots of poetry about his courage and his his manliness

01:03:12 --> 01:03:13

is virility

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or Badal Levin case or aka yet one of the great poems of poets of

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this group if this period and she knew him said in the Mermelstein

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once she had been mean Allah He to gentler on what she heals on

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metal. Vocal hormonal Coco what in Lisa V Jabba wrote on Allah He

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Kibriya who get tequila Halfhill Ohmori rocket F la Harmon can have

01:03:36 --> 01:03:37

you heard me heal it.

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It's just a praise poem about Musab Musab is a meteor from God,

01:03:45 --> 01:03:51

which illuminates the dark face of the earth. His strength is a true

01:03:51 --> 01:03:56

kingdom. But in it there is no oppression and no arrogance. He

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fears God in every matter

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and whoever is suffering from worry, will find success. When he

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comes to him. There's lots of other praise poetry about Messiah

01:04:11 --> 01:04:16

is really one of the heroes of the Arabs of the time. Remember again

01:04:16 --> 01:04:20

that Muslim seems to have not just proposed to her but actually

01:04:20 --> 01:04:24

fallen in love with her in Mecca. And

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there's a story in Ibn katiba Where you know Akbar which is

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really an early one of the earliest works of Arabic

01:04:33 --> 01:04:34

literature

01:04:36 --> 01:04:39

which inshallah we'll try and read the original

01:04:41 --> 01:04:44

says CMC library. It's quite a

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interesting kind of young men's bragging to

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each tema, Abdullah bin Omar will always urbanist Zubair or Musab

01:04:56 --> 01:04:59

ibn Zubair will Abdul Malik bin Marwan be

01:05:00 --> 01:05:05

United acaba. Okay so one day in the courtyard of the Kaaba, for

01:05:05 --> 01:05:09

men for young men get together, Abdullah bin Ahmed, second hurry

01:05:09 --> 01:05:14

for son, Ottawa urbanist Zubayr, another great heroes, Messiah,

01:05:14 --> 01:05:17

even as Zubair, his brother Mossad who's the one we're talking about,

01:05:17 --> 01:05:22

and Abdul Malik bin Mattawan, who's on Maya, who gets to be

01:05:22 --> 01:05:25

Khalifa. Eventually Abdul Malik, the one who built the Dome of the

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Rock.

01:05:27 --> 01:05:29

So they're kind of young men chatting together fuck Allah Who

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Messiah to men know. Most obsessed to them. What's your what's your

01:05:36 --> 01:05:39

dream? We'd say nowadays, what would you really like in your

01:05:39 --> 01:05:42

life? So they're kind of fantasizing for how long if that

01:05:42 --> 01:05:48

and they said you start for Carl Wilayat will Iraq? What is

01:05:48 --> 01:05:52

overdue, so Cana ignitor Hussain, where I should have been told her

01:05:52 --> 01:05:55

been Obaidullah baby Obaidullah.

01:05:58 --> 01:06:03

So, so, Muslim says what I would like is to be governor of Iraq,

01:06:03 --> 01:06:07

and to marry Sakina, Intel Hussein, and it should have been

01:06:07 --> 01:06:08

Tulsa.

01:06:11 --> 01:06:15

And then, Otto Ibn was the Bear says, fuck, what and you're from

01:06:15 --> 01:06:18

Allah and Hadith and to be a great and writer of Hadith.

01:06:19 --> 01:06:22

And Abdul Malik says, I want to be Khalifa.

01:06:23 --> 01:06:28

And Abdullah bin Omar says, I want to go to heaven. Gender is young

01:06:28 --> 01:06:33

man chatting. And the point of the story is that all of them actually

01:06:33 --> 01:06:37

got these wishes, even though it's this kind of young man's

01:06:37 --> 01:06:41

speculation out to marry both of the most beautiful sensational

01:06:42 --> 01:06:44

women in in the city.

01:06:45 --> 01:06:50

And then, shortly after this, the news of Karbala comes and he does

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marry Archbishop in Tulsa,

01:06:52 --> 01:06:58

who's another big personality of the period and he almost certainly

01:06:58 --> 01:07:04

is immortalized in one of Omar but I'd be happy as amatory poems and

01:07:04 --> 01:07:08

also other other poets like even places we quoted a few minutes

01:07:08 --> 01:07:13

ago. And these become kind of popular songs. Now should already

01:07:13 --> 01:07:16

be married to Abdullah bin Abdul Rahman bin Abu Bakr, Abu Bakr is

01:07:16 --> 01:07:21

grandson and marriage which I should have said Dierker had

01:07:21 --> 01:07:27

herself facilitated. The thing is she's from the tribe of time. And

01:07:27 --> 01:07:33

in the ancient Arabs, the women of time were really notorious for

01:07:33 --> 01:07:39

being constantly arguing and walking out on their husbands, but

01:07:39 --> 01:07:45

also for being extremely lovable. That was what you got. And there's

01:07:45 --> 01:07:46

lots of Proverbs about them.

01:07:49 --> 01:07:53

So famous for difficult women who are nonetheless beloved by the

01:07:53 --> 01:07:55

husbands okay.

01:07:57 --> 01:08:04

It's it said of, of of them in one Arabic proverb that they would

01:08:04 --> 01:08:08

argue with you when they were conceiving your child, they would

01:08:08 --> 01:08:11

argue with you when they were giving birth, but you would never

01:08:11 --> 01:08:15

love anybody more than you loved her. So that's their reputation.

01:08:16 --> 01:08:20

So she's already been married to Abdullah she has five children

01:08:20 --> 01:08:24

already Muslims interested and he sends to her famous singing girl

01:08:24 --> 01:08:29

of Makkah, as the Al may lap, goes to kind of check her out.

01:08:32 --> 01:08:37

And in return, she asks us to sing her a song and she was very happy

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

about this and as it goes back to Mossad and describes her

01:08:41 --> 01:08:45

and she does this in the context of another rather complicated

01:08:45 --> 01:08:49

recital, the implication of which is that the only thing that's

01:08:49 --> 01:08:52

really wrong with her is that she has big ears and big feet

01:08:54 --> 01:08:58

poem that is very appreciative but it makes this point so he agrees

01:08:58 --> 01:09:02

to marry her and these rich people than the dowry 500,000 silver

01:09:02 --> 01:09:08

coins and he gives her another gift of the same amount on top and

01:09:08 --> 01:09:10

she's always difficult and I don't know if we've got time to talk

01:09:10 --> 01:09:13

about the trials

01:09:15 --> 01:09:16

that she brought to her

01:09:20 --> 01:09:21

husband

01:09:26 --> 01:09:30

most and the most urban duck Hola Hola, Yo, man. We're here near

01:09:30 --> 01:09:30

EMA.

01:09:32 --> 01:09:38

Ma will Somalia look look at beam Atewa Sharona dinar for number

01:09:39 --> 01:09:43

one a thorough look look for Hijiri her for color. We're here

01:09:44 --> 01:09:49

to Shiho be what she has. Nobody can add a Hubbert helium in her

01:09:49 --> 01:09:53

look. Okay, so he's bringing her present. The present is precious

01:09:53 --> 01:09:54

pearls, eight poles.

01:09:55 --> 01:09:59

So he comes in and she's asleep siesta time.

01:10:00 --> 01:10:04

drops the pearls gently on her. When she wakes up and she sees

01:10:04 --> 01:10:07

what he's done, she said, No, my sleep was actually better than

01:10:07 --> 01:10:08

these pearls.

01:10:10 --> 01:10:15

Try the next anniversary. It's lots of stories about this. She's

01:10:15 --> 01:10:20

really, really hard work. And the ancient Arabs love to sort of

01:10:20 --> 01:10:21

slight terrace.

01:10:24 --> 01:10:27

Quite a piece of work, but it's great aspiration is to marry

01:10:27 --> 01:10:31

Sakina as well. She has now announced that

01:10:32 --> 01:10:35

after the death of her father she was willing to marry so it was

01:10:35 --> 01:10:39

right to Medina and visit Ali Zainul. Aberdeen

01:10:40 --> 01:10:45

saying he wants to become his brother in law. Ali agrees, ask

01:10:45 --> 01:10:49

Sakina Sakina consents, and according to a historian vinta

01:10:49 --> 01:10:53

shot at this happens in the year 67. Most about the time is

01:10:53 --> 01:10:57

Governor of Butler, so a big big cheese, she's about 20.

01:10:58 --> 01:11:03

So she goes back, but it's back to Iraq. So it's the same journey

01:11:03 --> 01:11:07

she's dealing with those memories. And she's she enters her new home

01:11:07 --> 01:11:10

and in the traditional style, she's met first by her co wife, I

01:11:10 --> 01:11:14

should have been told her who dresses herself magnificently for

01:11:14 --> 01:11:19

this and in the home of Musab. She resumes her old kind of bright and

01:11:19 --> 01:11:23

cheerful and carefree manner. Maybe if you want to psychologize

01:11:23 --> 01:11:26

this because she's back in Iraq, kind of Allah is not far away.

01:11:27 --> 01:11:30

Do you remember the humiliation of being taken in kind of rags and

01:11:30 --> 01:11:33

chains to the governor's palace in Kufa, this is another way of

01:11:33 --> 01:11:37

blocking out those bad memories and those assistant human

01:11:37 --> 01:11:42

psychological response. They say for instance, why? Why did the

01:11:42 --> 01:11:46

Jews have the best sense of humor, Jewish humors, everybody like

01:11:46 --> 01:11:50

Seinfeld, because of their dark history, it's a kind of

01:11:50 --> 01:11:53

compensation mechanism. So there's one explanation of why she's one

01:11:53 --> 01:11:59

of the great kind of Joker's and humorists of the Arabs. And of

01:11:59 --> 01:12:02

course, she's has this woman Aisha who's really making life * for

01:12:02 --> 01:12:06

her husband is not going to make things easy for Sakina either.

01:12:06 --> 01:12:10

It's a classic situation of the polygamous rivalry.

01:12:13 --> 01:12:18

Aisha constantly difficult, she goes out in bright clouds kind of

01:12:18 --> 01:12:22

shiny, silken things not really appropriate in the Muslim city,

01:12:22 --> 01:12:27

and it drives Muslim up the wall, but she says, God has given me

01:12:27 --> 01:12:30

this beauty and it's a great gift. So why should I deprive the world

01:12:30 --> 01:12:35

of it and it doesn't add to deal with that. So Kainat she's various

01:12:35 --> 01:12:40

engages in various manipulations to try and score one over on

01:12:40 --> 01:12:44

Sakina but Sakina it seems doesn't reciprocate in kind, but relies

01:12:44 --> 01:12:48

more on dignity and AdMob. Very often, they would argue,

01:12:49 --> 01:12:52

lots of stories about this. Who is the most beautiful

01:12:54 --> 01:12:56

so he resolves this one day

01:12:58 --> 01:13:04

by saying mnts or Cana for I'm Lahore minha. We're under NTR Isha

01:13:04 --> 01:13:04

for edge Mala

01:13:05 --> 01:13:10

As for us, so Cana, you are lovelier than her. As view our

01:13:10 --> 01:13:15

Isha, you are more beautiful. So this is going on all the time. But

01:13:15 --> 01:13:16

this is

01:13:17 --> 01:13:20

an interesting insight is is actually documented into the

01:13:20 --> 01:13:25

difficulties of a polygamous life in a society where everybody is

01:13:25 --> 01:13:28

doing this, a lot of men are killed on the field of battle. And

01:13:28 --> 01:13:33

this is better than widowhood. And is accepted as a sondland as

01:13:33 --> 01:13:38

normal pattern of life, but it's not easy. And these two really

01:13:38 --> 01:13:42

sort of conspicuous and strong willed women seem to have had this

01:13:42 --> 01:13:43

rivalry.

01:13:45 --> 01:13:49

But history books are full of interesting stories about Muslims

01:13:49 --> 01:13:50

relationship with

01:13:53 --> 01:13:57

with Aisha didn't tell her, but don't tell us anything, really

01:13:57 --> 01:14:02

about his relationship with Sakina. We don't know how they got

01:14:02 --> 01:14:05

in except at the end.

01:14:06 --> 01:14:12

When he goes out to fight as part of the Beirut rebellion against

01:14:12 --> 01:14:15

the Umayyads and his kind of Sham his manly virtue says it's not

01:14:15 --> 01:14:18

going to capitulate, he's going to do it but it looks like it's going

01:14:18 --> 01:14:21

to be another Karbala and of course it's okay No, thinks it's

01:14:21 --> 01:14:26

going to be another Karbala. We have this exchange which has been

01:14:26 --> 01:14:29

preserved so he's setting out

01:14:35 --> 01:14:39

limma Dhaka Allah Allah Sakina you will do her work with the higher

01:14:39 --> 01:14:41

allele Hello Julian Italia Abdul Malik.

01:14:43 --> 01:14:48

When he goes into see Sakina to say goodbye to her and was getting

01:14:48 --> 01:14:51

ready to go out to fight against Abdul Malik

01:14:52 --> 01:14:56

SAF admin Kulfi as he turned to leave, she shouted.

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

waffles now what I like most

01:15:00 --> 01:15:04

OB I'm really sorry about this Messiah.

01:15:05 --> 01:15:10

For taffeta, he lay her walk all our colon Heather Levy's callback

01:15:11 --> 01:15:15

that he turned to her and said, is all of that for me in your heart,

01:15:16 --> 01:15:20

Violet, a Walla Walla Quinto bookfi Athan fall and there's

01:15:20 --> 01:15:22

something hidden which is even greater.

01:15:23 --> 01:15:25

Now that indicates that she

01:15:26 --> 01:15:31

really loved him and was realizing this at that moment and of course

01:15:31 --> 01:15:32

he is.

01:15:35 --> 01:15:40

Does lose on the field of battle Abdul Malik manages to bribe most

01:15:40 --> 01:15:43

of his soldiers who abandoned Messiah

01:15:45 --> 01:15:49

who was killed and in the governor's palace the news reaches

01:15:49 --> 01:15:55

her and she's devastated but also furious against those who betrayed

01:15:55 --> 01:15:59

him it says Iraqis again and make promises and then change their

01:15:59 --> 01:16:01

mind. It looks like another Karbala. So

01:16:02 --> 01:16:08

this is a tragic life really. A grandfather has been killed a

01:16:08 --> 01:16:11

father has been killed now her husband has been killed in a world

01:16:11 --> 01:16:18

in which the options for women were fairly limited. So the people

01:16:18 --> 01:16:19

of Kufa

01:16:20 --> 01:16:24

haven't been on her side become the best turbans to offer their

01:16:24 --> 01:16:28

condolences. We're so sorry. So kind of Intel, Hossein.

01:16:29 --> 01:16:36

She knows that the snakes and the they've behaved reasonably so

01:16:36 --> 01:16:37

famously as they leave

01:16:40 --> 01:16:41

she has some words

01:16:42 --> 01:16:43

for them.

01:16:47 --> 01:16:54

Allahu Allah, any political cutter to JD Hollien or cartel to ABI Al

01:16:54 --> 01:17:00

Hussein was OG must urban phobia you watching tell Cooney

01:17:01 --> 01:17:07

ASM unknown Aneesa yet and Adam ateme to Mooney Selita 10. Animal

01:17:07 --> 01:17:13

to Mooney Kaviraj. So she's really angry with them and says God knows

01:17:13 --> 01:17:18

that I hate you. You killed my grandfather, Ali. And you killed

01:17:18 --> 01:17:23

my father Al Hussein, and my husband Musab. So how would you

01:17:23 --> 01:17:25

have the effrontery to stand before me?

01:17:27 --> 01:17:32

When I was a child, you made me an orphan. Now I am an adult. You've

01:17:32 --> 01:17:33

made me a widow.

01:17:35 --> 01:17:37

And then she marches out

01:17:38 --> 01:17:43

with Muslim, she's has had a daughter they argue about the

01:17:43 --> 01:17:47

name, but her choice which is rebab named after her mother

01:17:47 --> 01:17:54

prevails. And so after this new reverse in her life, she goes back

01:17:54 --> 01:17:55

with her daughter to maca.

01:17:57 --> 01:18:01

Asha the other widow the CO widow also returns

01:18:07 --> 01:18:12

and immediately people want to marry our Isha and

01:18:17 --> 01:18:22

yet says she, she marries again quite quickly and the Arab

01:18:22 --> 01:18:26

Chronicles and sort of gossip columns and are busy with her and

01:18:26 --> 01:18:30

her stamps. Commenting on her relationship with a new husband,

01:18:30 --> 01:18:34

who is the brother of Abdul Malik, who doesn't mind marrying the

01:18:34 --> 01:18:39

brother of the KDF who sent the army against her. Her late husband

01:18:39 --> 01:18:43

Sakina went into an editor and then seems to have been in a kind

01:18:43 --> 01:18:49

of extended mourning. Even though she's got this bright, witty

01:18:49 --> 01:18:55

temperament. She's maybe depressed. But we're told one day

01:18:55 --> 01:18:58

her servant girl banana, start saying

01:18:59 --> 01:19:03

it's actually this Melek Wellock she says to her what's wrong? Call

01:19:03 --> 01:19:07

it or hippo and RR feed dairy Jinba she said I really wish we

01:19:07 --> 01:19:09

could have a wedding party in our house.

01:19:11 --> 01:19:12

Maid is saying this.

01:19:13 --> 01:19:14

And

01:19:15 --> 01:19:16

so

01:19:17 --> 01:19:21

again, cutting through the tangle of the different durations.

01:19:25 --> 01:19:26

We can see

01:19:28 --> 01:19:33

what she does next. The dad said sukeena Molalla hat as it will be.

01:19:34 --> 01:19:38

We'll call it La. It's happy la Ibrahim Ibn Abdul Rahman been our

01:19:38 --> 01:19:43

facula Who in the La dee da NerdCon. But Bella Nephi

01:19:44 --> 01:19:48

Antioquia, Lulu Sula, sallallahu alayhi wa sallam fog tubes so

01:19:48 --> 01:19:48

Cana.

01:19:50 --> 01:19:55

So, she calls a client of hers kinsmen

01:19:58 --> 01:19:59

who she trusts and she says go to a

01:20:00 --> 01:20:03

Brahim and Abdul Rahman been out again the son of one of the great

01:20:03 --> 01:20:05

Sahaba I blocked him and been off

01:20:07 --> 01:20:13

and say to him, we used not to incline to you. But now we see

01:20:13 --> 01:20:16

your virtues. You are fond the maternal

01:20:17 --> 01:20:23

uncles of the Holy Prophet. So seek Sakina in marriage. This is

01:20:23 --> 01:20:27

the way she's doing it. It's the the groom that proposes but She's

01:20:27 --> 01:20:30

inviting the proposal.

01:20:34 --> 01:20:35

And

01:20:38 --> 01:20:42

after Mossad had died, he had already proposed it seems and she

01:20:42 --> 01:20:45

called him giving him a flea in his ear, but now she seems to have

01:20:45 --> 01:20:49

changed her mind and Ibrahim is happy so he calls all of his

01:20:49 --> 01:20:54

relations dozens of people to go to the house of Ali then Aberdeen

01:20:54 --> 01:20:58

to make the formal proposal and this crowd is noticed in Medina.

01:20:59 --> 01:21:00

The Gossip gets around

01:21:01 --> 01:21:05

and some are outraged her the hill Hancock to redo antitheism water

01:21:05 --> 01:21:06

Ibrahim been up the rock man.

01:21:08 --> 01:21:12

That stupid woman wants to marry that man Ibrahim been under a man.

01:21:12 --> 01:21:17

He wasn't really considered worthy of her. Even though her father

01:21:17 --> 01:21:20

undrafted and and it's one of the Osher Mubasher in Bill Jana, one

01:21:20 --> 01:21:25

of the 10 men explicitly promised paradise in in the Hadith. And so

01:21:25 --> 01:21:28

the families get together some of them have sticks and as a kind of

01:21:28 --> 01:21:36

fight outside Zeno Aberdeen's house, and the noise reaches

01:21:36 --> 01:21:40

okayness house and she tells her maid Are those your wedding party

01:21:41 --> 01:21:44

and the marriage is called off.

01:21:47 --> 01:21:50

This is interesting, the society is still tribal and the old kind

01:21:50 --> 01:21:54

of caste system is still understood. You notice that Sakina

01:21:54 --> 01:21:57

doesn't mind effectively taking the initiative and proposing to

01:21:57 --> 01:22:01

somebody who in the traditional hierarchy has some way beneath her

01:22:01 --> 01:22:06

doesn't really seem to matter but the society can't can't cope. And

01:22:06 --> 01:22:11

so she kind of gives up and gets another proposal from is bulk bin

01:22:11 --> 01:22:15

Abdulaziz bin Marwan who is the brother of the righteous or My

01:22:15 --> 01:22:20

khalifa, Omar bin Abdulaziz and this she accept. So see, again,

01:22:20 --> 01:22:26

the lack of kind of tribal concern isn't Umayyad from Abdulmalik

01:22:26 --> 01:22:30

firmly she's the elevator supposed to be a daggers drawn with the

01:22:30 --> 01:22:34

bunny or here's the daughter of a mama her saying she doesn't mind a

01:22:34 --> 01:22:37

proposal from an old maid and they married.

01:22:39 --> 01:22:45

At least it's kind of agreed the exchange vows cabal de jab.

01:22:46 --> 01:22:51

And she's his governor of Egypt at the time. And she says the air of

01:22:51 --> 01:22:55

Egypt is unhealthy they have fevers and things and so he says

01:22:55 --> 01:22:58

all I'll build a house for you. So we're healthy. So it goes to one

01:22:58 --> 01:23:03

of the hills now. Cairo as it is now and builds a mansion for her

01:23:03 --> 01:23:03

there.

01:23:05 --> 01:23:10

Then his uncle that made Khalifa Abdullah Malik writes to him

01:23:10 --> 01:23:12

saying no

01:23:13 --> 01:23:14

divorce her.

01:23:15 --> 01:23:20

He can remain as governor of Egypt, or he can remain as the

01:23:20 --> 01:23:24

husband of Sakina. That's the choice. So he thinks about this

01:23:24 --> 01:23:27

and he actually divorces her without the marriage ever having

01:23:27 --> 01:23:32

been consummated. Nice answer 20,000 gold coins by way of an

01:23:32 --> 01:23:36

apology. Why did Abdul Malik issue this order? Another upset in so

01:23:36 --> 01:23:40

Qeynos life? Some say it's because he was generous. Some say it's

01:23:40 --> 01:23:44

because he was angry at the money spent on constructing the mansion.

01:23:44 --> 01:23:47

We don't know another suitor comes along Abdullah bin Othman al his

01:23:47 --> 01:23:53

enemy Muslims nephew, another one from the Zubayr ID faction who

01:23:53 --> 01:23:58

have risen up against the the Umayyads in Makkah and in Iraq.

01:23:59 --> 01:24:02

This time, the marriage is considered by the sort of extended

01:24:02 --> 01:24:07

families and chattering relatives and Auntie's to be alright. And so

01:24:07 --> 01:24:10

the marriage does go ahead and there seems to have been a time of

01:24:10 --> 01:24:14

stability and security for her. She becomes a mother again. She

01:24:14 --> 01:24:19

has a son of men. And off man. Bun Abdullah is actually the ancestor

01:24:19 --> 01:24:22

of all her present day living descendants. That's where the line

01:24:22 --> 01:24:28

goes. The other son called Hakeem and then Robbie Ha, who marries

01:24:28 --> 01:24:33

abbess is the eldest son of another Umayyad Khalifa and Waleed

01:24:34 --> 01:24:38

is one of the great generals fights against the Byzantines in

01:24:38 --> 01:24:43

Asia Minor. So again, you see the added beat not hesitating to marry

01:24:43 --> 01:24:46

and to marry their daughters into the family of the bunny or Maya

01:24:46 --> 01:24:51

and a lot of modern day polarities find this very hard to conceive,

01:24:51 --> 01:24:55

because those hatreds are very deeply rooted as a result of

01:24:55 --> 01:24:58

various manipulations and misunderstandings. If you've ever

01:24:58 --> 01:24:59

been to Damascus and

01:25:00 --> 01:25:03

You go to the, the the graveyard though.

01:25:04 --> 01:25:06

There's the tomb of more outerwear. And there's the tomb of

01:25:06 --> 01:25:10

yours Eid. And they have been enormous steel cages around them

01:25:10 --> 01:25:14

because of the crazy people that want to attack and desecrate the

01:25:14 --> 01:25:18

graves because they were allegedly enemies of the prophetic house.

01:25:18 --> 01:25:21

Rather than just being politics, he gets a sense of the real

01:25:21 --> 01:25:24

unresolved tensions that are there. But if you look at the El

01:25:24 --> 01:25:28

bait, they married their daughters to all my kids. And

01:25:30 --> 01:25:34

they seem to have been very open hearted about this. There's other

01:25:34 --> 01:25:38

other things that we learn and I really want to get into her impact

01:25:38 --> 01:25:40

on the growth of Arabic poetry a bit.

01:25:42 --> 01:25:45

But I think these family things were important because we do here

01:25:45 --> 01:25:49

get an insight into a kind of messy human reality rather than

01:25:49 --> 01:25:52

some kind of idealistic. plaster. Saint is always praying, and the

01:25:52 --> 01:25:57

husband is perfect, and everything is lovely and Islamic. And this is

01:25:57 --> 01:26:00

a real life. And these are real circumstances and it's a difficult

01:26:00 --> 01:26:06

life. All of those bereavements have family members who she deeply

01:26:06 --> 01:26:11

loved husbands who die one after another. Political catastrophe is

01:26:11 --> 01:26:15

the difficulty of being added baked in in that time.

01:26:16 --> 01:26:21

precarious but she maintained, so high spirits more or less,

01:26:22 --> 01:26:24

throughout, so another suitor comes along.

01:26:26 --> 01:26:30

After Abdullah dies, they married for about eight years seems to

01:26:30 --> 01:26:33

have been a happy time for her. Somebody else comes it's always

01:26:33 --> 01:26:37

regarded in this traditional Arab societies as as kind of wronging a

01:26:37 --> 01:26:42

woman to leave her on her own as a single parent. It's part of her

01:26:42 --> 01:26:46

dignity that she should be married. But this time, it's a

01:26:46 --> 01:26:47

really strange story.

01:26:50 --> 01:26:54

This is aid bin Omar been off man been a fan. So his grandson of

01:26:54 --> 01:26:55

Othman.

01:26:56 --> 01:27:01

Again, the idea that added baiter against off man's family. This,

01:27:01 --> 01:27:05

the fact that it's offense, grandson does not concern her,

01:27:05 --> 01:27:07

she's probably in her late 40s by now.

01:27:09 --> 01:27:14

And he says he really wants to marry her, and she can specify any

01:27:14 --> 01:27:15

condition she wants.

01:27:17 --> 01:27:22

So she says there's three conditions, I'm going to be your

01:27:22 --> 01:27:25

only wife, and you won't touch any other woman.

01:27:26 --> 01:27:30

I have total access to all of your wealth, I can take whatever I

01:27:30 --> 01:27:33

want. And you never restrict my movements. I can go wherever I

01:27:33 --> 01:27:37

like and you facilitate that. And that well, that's kind of

01:27:38 --> 01:27:41

now in Sherry, as she's allowed to say things like that, even though

01:27:41 --> 01:27:45

it's kind of pushing at the boundaries. But in that position,

01:27:45 --> 01:27:48

she can put those things in the contract.

01:27:50 --> 01:27:52

And another thing that's odd

01:27:54 --> 01:27:59

is that his nickname is that he has up hello Quraysh is the

01:27:59 --> 01:28:04

meanest stingiest man. All of coloration is absolutely notorious

01:28:04 --> 01:28:08

for doing kind of shocking things. And the fact that she's now going

01:28:08 --> 01:28:12

to have the pin number of all of his bank accounts.

01:28:14 --> 01:28:16

But she's quite something he agrees.

01:28:19 --> 01:28:22

Enough third conditional, she's new wherever she likes, and he'll

01:28:22 --> 01:28:24

have to facilitate that that's, that's strange in that world. So

01:28:24 --> 01:28:27

some people nowadays in Arabic literature call her an Arab

01:28:27 --> 01:28:33

feminist bit anachronistic really, but certainly she did insisted on

01:28:33 --> 01:28:37

having very considerable power and autonomy. Now they'd has this

01:28:37 --> 01:28:38

reputation

01:28:39 --> 01:28:42

as being very tight and when they hear of these conditions is

01:28:42 --> 01:28:47

unlikely marriage. People in the UK are a little bit uncertain and

01:28:47 --> 01:28:50

anxious. But they get married. So there's lots of stories in Arabic

01:28:50 --> 01:28:53

literature, some of them even in the Arabian Nights about the kind

01:28:53 --> 01:28:57

of funny things happen between them, the greatest miser of

01:28:57 --> 01:29:01

Quraysh, married to this aristocratic, courageous woman who

01:29:01 --> 01:29:06

really likes to give money and to hold big parties. very hospitable,

01:29:06 --> 01:29:06

very generous.

01:29:08 --> 01:29:09

So for instance,

01:29:10 --> 01:29:14

an example of generosity and not really thinking about wealth is

01:29:14 --> 01:29:17

that when she did the Hajj one year, she had her seven pebbles

01:29:17 --> 01:29:21

for the Jamaat, she dropped one of them and how does she get it back?

01:29:21 --> 01:29:24

So she just pulls off a big ring and throws that instead.

01:29:25 --> 01:29:29

she just, she wants to do her obligation, and she really doesn't

01:29:29 --> 01:29:33

care about wealth, money flows to her

01:29:35 --> 01:29:38

finger serves aides meanness, they say that on the hedge,

01:29:40 --> 01:29:43

husband and wife come on the hedge with their own provisions, five

01:29:43 --> 01:29:47

camel loads of food. In the evening, she orders the table to

01:29:47 --> 01:29:51

be laid. And then some people come along say we'd like to greet Zaid

01:29:52 --> 01:29:57

nobleman of our people, can we greet him, and then Zaid knows

01:29:57 --> 01:29:59

that they're going to go for the food. And so he says

01:30:00 --> 01:30:03

Oh yes this terrible stomach ache and he said oh, I'm really not

01:30:03 --> 01:30:07

feeling well. Our hostility Oh my belly

01:30:08 --> 01:30:12

Bismillah it foul Tom take the food away her to Tiriac when

01:30:12 --> 01:30:16

they're ill her take the food away bring me some medicine and some

01:30:16 --> 01:30:20

hot water to the guests. Of course it was a good moment so they go

01:30:20 --> 01:30:23

away. After they're gone, the food comes back and we have a nice

01:30:23 --> 01:30:27

dinner together. So lots of stories about this.

01:30:28 --> 01:30:31

Yeah, and there's even another story which is kind of even more

01:30:31 --> 01:30:34

extraordinary but it is in may not be true.

01:30:36 --> 01:30:39

He has to go on Hajj with the new Khalifa Suleiman bin Abdul Malik

01:30:39 --> 01:30:44

is kind of his duty. But he has to get her permission. She's very

01:30:44 --> 01:30:48

much wearing the trousers in the family. She's okay, you can go but

01:30:48 --> 01:30:52

I will send one of my people with you. Because I don't want to

01:30:52 --> 01:30:56

marrying anybody else. Or visiting your slave girls and that farm of

01:30:56 --> 01:30:57

yours and in Medina.

01:30:58 --> 01:31:03

Okay. So they it goes off on the way back from the hudge. According

01:31:03 --> 01:31:08

to this Arabian Nights type story. He says to this servant of hers,

01:31:08 --> 01:31:11

it's called a Shabbos is kind of slightly if you know Don Giovanni

01:31:11 --> 01:31:16

this Leporello has the kind of slimy guy who arranges all of the

01:31:16 --> 01:31:18

dubious meetings. This is a Cheb

01:31:20 --> 01:31:25

I wouldn't mind visiting my farm just for one day. If you don't

01:31:25 --> 01:31:26

tell Sakina

01:31:27 --> 01:31:32

I'll give you 400 dinars golden coins, but you may have to swear

01:31:32 --> 01:31:36

because I know what she was like, I didn't do anything bad. So he

01:31:36 --> 01:31:41

says, All right. So he goes off day later, he comes back. And so

01:31:41 --> 01:31:44

they go back. And so quinoa is an ash Shabbos and she makes him

01:31:44 --> 01:31:47

swear that her husband has been good.

01:31:49 --> 01:31:55

And so I should have said yes, I swear I honorably swear, that has

01:31:55 --> 01:31:58

not been out of my sight. And he certainly didn't go near his farm.

01:31:59 --> 01:32:03

And then Zaid actually has a kind of conscience attack. That's it.

01:32:03 --> 01:32:07

No, I'm sorry. I did do it. He doesn't like to see this guy

01:32:07 --> 01:32:07

swearing.

01:32:09 --> 01:32:10

And he confesses.

01:32:12 --> 01:32:13

Then, according to the funny story,

01:32:15 --> 01:32:18

of course, she divorces him.

01:32:19 --> 01:32:26

And for Ashab, who's kind of treacherous Leporello she devises

01:32:26 --> 01:32:29

a strange punishment. She spends the money on a very competent 400

01:32:29 --> 01:32:30

dinars she takes from him.

01:32:32 --> 01:32:35

And she orders the carpenters of Medina to make this really

01:32:35 --> 01:32:41

complicated box in which she puts a few chickens eggs. And she says

01:32:41 --> 01:32:43

if any of these eggs don't hatch,

01:32:44 --> 01:32:48

you'll be for it. And so he has to physically keep the eggs warm into

01:32:48 --> 01:32:50

strange contraption until they hatch.

01:32:51 --> 01:32:52

That's his punishment.

01:32:54 --> 01:32:58

So very kind of unusual, which he will not and then the Khalifa says

01:32:58 --> 01:33:01

no, you can't be divorced. And so he ordered for them to get back

01:33:01 --> 01:33:04

together again. So let's

01:33:06 --> 01:33:10

think some more about what this means that I can kind of

01:33:10 --> 01:33:14

conventional view of the seller for no women being kind of like

01:33:15 --> 01:33:19

quiet nuns, and she's really not like that. And it's unlikely

01:33:19 --> 01:33:21

anybody would invented this personality because it's kind of

01:33:21 --> 01:33:25

doesn't fit, fit, fit fit the narrative or were told, for

01:33:25 --> 01:33:30

instance, that when she heard the Umayyads had ordered Ali to be

01:33:30 --> 01:33:35

condemned from the minibar during the hotbar. In Medina, she herself

01:33:35 --> 01:33:38

went to the mosque, and when this was happening, stood up in front

01:33:38 --> 01:33:43

of the preacher to solve that law who was Sakeena fisherton

01:33:44 --> 01:33:49

shettima. They had a little Skeena interrupted him and started

01:33:49 --> 01:33:54

insulting him for criticizing Imam Ali. She orders her servants all

01:33:54 --> 01:33:56

to come along and do the same. The preacher can't do anything to her

01:33:56 --> 01:34:02

but orders the police to beat her servants. And another story told

01:34:02 --> 01:34:05

about her because this is an age where medicine is primitive. She

01:34:05 --> 01:34:10

has something in her eye which is it seems under the surface of our

01:34:10 --> 01:34:12

eyeball and there's a swelling and it's affecting her looks and it's

01:34:12 --> 01:34:18

very painful. And she has a Greek servant called Ruffus who knows

01:34:18 --> 01:34:19

about medicine?

01:34:20 --> 01:34:25

And he says I can do an operation and get that thing out. But it's

01:34:25 --> 01:34:29

very painful. Can you bear the pain and stay sales still and she

01:34:29 --> 01:34:34

says Bella certainly. So he does this terrifying surgical operation

01:34:34 --> 01:34:37

on her eye and peels back the layers of skin until he gets to

01:34:37 --> 01:34:43

the thing that's lodged that and removes it was so Cana Wanda jaton

01:34:43 --> 01:34:48

that his wallet had to follow him in Iraq and Sakina was just lying

01:34:48 --> 01:34:54

there, not moving and not groaning until he had finished the

01:34:54 --> 01:34:57

operation. And according to the

01:34:58 --> 01:34:59

historians left a small

01:35:00 --> 01:35:03

marks on her eye which people considered to add to her beauty

01:35:08 --> 01:35:14

so known. Let's just talk briefly about the literary side of of it.

01:35:14 --> 01:35:22

She dies in 117736 in the city of Medina. And we mentioned

01:35:24 --> 01:35:25

Omar bin Abi Robbie,

01:35:26 --> 01:35:32

and the amatory verse. And again, people are puzzled when they're

01:35:32 --> 01:35:36

told that the great impact that Islam had on the poetry of the

01:35:36 --> 01:35:43

Arab Arabs was to create a huge tradition of romantic verse. And

01:35:43 --> 01:35:48

it's true, and these poets used to gather in her house.

01:35:49 --> 01:35:53

This is the age of Leila and metronome. It originates from that

01:35:53 --> 01:35:56

period and magic normally is said to have been real person called

01:35:56 --> 01:36:00

dice. And we have his Deewan and his kind of infatuation with

01:36:00 --> 01:36:04

Leila, which has given us that idea of courtly love because apart

01:36:04 --> 01:36:08

from a few verses, which may well be spurious, it generally is very

01:36:08 --> 01:36:12

chaste verse. There's no kind of explicit stuff.

01:36:13 --> 01:36:17

Mostly with it. Most of it is kind of silly localizing and encampment

01:36:17 --> 01:36:21

after the blob, it's gone. God knows well, remembering, happy

01:36:21 --> 01:36:22

days with her.

01:36:23 --> 01:36:25

This is the time of the poet

01:36:27 --> 01:36:28

Jamil

01:36:29 --> 01:36:34

and his beloved Athena, we have that Deewan. Still, this is the

01:36:34 --> 01:36:35

time of

01:36:37 --> 01:36:39

the poet cathedral,

01:36:40 --> 01:36:42

and his beloved Uzza.

01:36:43 --> 01:36:47

And of course, all urban Abbey, Robbie, all of these women whose

01:36:47 --> 01:36:53

beauty He describes, and people think what is going on here. This

01:36:53 --> 01:36:56

is the time of the self, or the literature that really everybody

01:36:56 --> 01:36:57

is enjoying

01:36:58 --> 01:37:00

is this stuff about?

01:37:02 --> 01:37:03

Love.

01:37:05 --> 01:37:09

This becomes very important in Islamic history because the idea

01:37:09 --> 01:37:10

of

01:37:11 --> 01:37:16

the quest for the beloved becomes probably the most popular mystical

01:37:16 --> 01:37:22

troop. Laila becomes the absent divine. And Rumi says he wants to

01:37:22 --> 01:37:26

unveil Leila to be reunited with Leila and his last turn is kind of

01:37:26 --> 01:37:31

spiritual nostalgia and that sort of all this platonic streak of

01:37:31 --> 01:37:35

love this nostalgia in Islamic civilization really takes its cue

01:37:35 --> 01:37:39

from that early period and it's not really much there in the pre

01:37:39 --> 01:37:43

Islamic Jahai verse which is rougher and more pessimistic.

01:37:44 --> 01:37:49

There is a genuine romantic dimension, what they call an

01:37:49 --> 01:37:51

Hogben, Audrey sort of chaste love

01:37:54 --> 01:37:58

present in this period and it's sensationally good poetry. And as

01:37:58 --> 01:38:03

we've seen the teenage girls in Makkah and everybody, and her

01:38:03 --> 01:38:07

house in Medina becomes a kind of literary salon. And she tries to

01:38:07 --> 01:38:09

get all of these people

01:38:10 --> 01:38:11

to

01:38:12 --> 01:38:13

recite for her.

01:38:16 --> 01:38:20

So there's a famous incident in which the three great sort of

01:38:20 --> 01:38:24

poetry singers at the time were resident in Medina at the time of

01:38:24 --> 01:38:28

the greater than urban sort of age, wanted the fourth greatest to

01:38:28 --> 01:38:33

us, honey nahiri, who lived in southern Iraq to come and join

01:38:33 --> 01:38:36

them so they could have this amazing session of all of the

01:38:36 --> 01:38:42

great poetry recitals together in smokiness house and hunting

01:38:42 --> 01:38:44

accepts the invitation

01:38:45 --> 01:38:46

comes to Medina.

01:38:47 --> 01:38:51

And they all go together to smokiness house and she has a big

01:38:51 --> 01:38:54

banquet prepared and then they ask her Nene to sing for them.

01:38:56 --> 01:38:59

And everybody in Medina wants to hear this. And of course, there's

01:38:59 --> 01:39:02

no microphone. So people get really close to the house and they

01:39:02 --> 01:39:04

climb up onto the roof of the neighboring house. So many that

01:39:04 --> 01:39:08

one of the house roofs collapse collapses and people are hurt. So

01:39:08 --> 01:39:12

these people are really celebrities, both Jared and far as

01:39:12 --> 01:39:15

duck. Two of the great early Arab poets

01:39:16 --> 01:39:19

who had this great rivalry between them half of their poetry is kind

01:39:19 --> 01:39:23

of poking fun at the other one saying is no good in battle. He's

01:39:23 --> 01:39:26

no good in love. And then the other one replies and it's this

01:39:26 --> 01:39:27

this knockout and

01:39:29 --> 01:39:33

that adversarial poetry of Julian philosopher some of the great

01:39:34 --> 01:39:39

masterpieces of Arabic literature and the Kitab. Avani preserves a

01:39:39 --> 01:39:44

kind of sense of what this would have been like. And it seems that

01:39:44 --> 01:39:46

when these poets were present,

01:39:47 --> 01:39:51

so Cana would very much be in charge of the naturalist. She

01:39:51 --> 01:39:57

would be behind a screen and she wouldn't speak herself. But she

01:39:57 --> 01:39:59

would write a question or request for a poem

01:40:00 --> 01:40:04

on a piece of paper and get her servant girl to take it around,

01:40:04 --> 01:40:05

and then she would

01:40:06 --> 01:40:10

read it out. And she would say, quote There Are you the one who

01:40:10 --> 01:40:14

said, and then you get the verse. And then cathedra would say, Yes,

01:40:14 --> 01:40:18

this is my poem, and then she would criticize it, it's not quite

01:40:18 --> 01:40:21

good enough, and this other poem is better. And if only you'd said

01:40:21 --> 01:40:24

that this is a little bit inappropriate. And she would

01:40:24 --> 01:40:29

always give them a gift at the end of it. And this is said to be why

01:40:29 --> 01:40:33

she preferred Jarier over foreign stuck in a very kind of famous

01:40:33 --> 01:40:38

standoff between the two in her in her presence in her absent

01:40:38 --> 01:40:40

presence. So

01:40:43 --> 01:40:47

we need to finally to think about what this means that the daughter

01:40:47 --> 01:40:51

of Monaco scene is patronizing these love poets, in this very

01:40:51 --> 01:40:55

Islamic and really very conservative society, where the

01:40:56 --> 01:40:58

prophetic mosque is next door.

01:41:01 --> 01:41:06

Now, what's going on probably is that this is the Near East

01:41:06 --> 01:41:14

celebration of the advent of a new era of attitudes to family life

01:41:14 --> 01:41:19

and the body. You have to remember what was there beforehand,

01:41:19 --> 01:41:23

basically, Christianity was dominant. And if we read books,

01:41:23 --> 01:41:26

like Peter brands, the body and society, you'll see what a

01:41:26 --> 01:41:30

gigantic transformation that had brought. The big impact that

01:41:30 --> 01:41:34

Christianity had on Near Eastern society was that whereas the kind

01:41:34 --> 01:41:34

of

01:41:35 --> 01:41:40

quite orgiastic sensuality of late Roman culture was suddenly

01:41:40 --> 01:41:48

replaced by monasteries, and convents, and celibate clergy, in

01:41:48 --> 01:41:52

the time was the Council of Carthage late fourth century.

01:41:52 --> 01:41:55

That's the thing that Pope Benedict and Pope Francis are kind

01:41:55 --> 01:41:57

of trying to get their heads around at the moment. And it's

01:41:57 --> 01:42:01

still a huge thing for most of the Christian churches and the Arabs,

01:42:01 --> 01:42:04

when they went around the Near East would find these hermitage is

01:42:04 --> 01:42:09

everywhere. There is a mortifying monk up there on the clifftop and

01:42:09 --> 01:42:12

there is somebody sitting on a pillar, and the whole landscape

01:42:12 --> 01:42:14

was full of these renunciant.

01:42:15 --> 01:42:19

And it became, as Peter Brown says, like a black sheet

01:42:19 --> 01:42:23

descending on the Near East, and everything was kind of like death

01:42:23 --> 01:42:28

or anticipation of death. And then it's long comes along, and

01:42:28 --> 01:42:30

suddenly the values change.

01:42:31 --> 01:42:34

Because of the example of the Holy Prophet, salallahu, alayhi

01:42:34 --> 01:42:38

wasallam, and the essentially world affirming message of the

01:42:38 --> 01:42:42

Quran, which is about the world of signs of God, everything becomes

01:42:42 --> 01:42:47

upbeat again. So I think you can understand this emergence of the

01:42:47 --> 01:42:51

romantic principle as central to Islamic literature and then

01:42:51 --> 01:42:54

becoming the preferred genre that Sufis and other devotional poets

01:42:54 --> 01:43:00

like to use in their metaphorical journeys to the Divine, as part of

01:43:00 --> 01:43:05

a general kind of cathartic reaction against the unnatural

01:43:05 --> 01:43:09

miseries of a world that was really her shirts and flange

01:43:09 --> 01:43:13

relations and the penitential lifestyle, De Niro is breathing a

01:43:13 --> 01:43:18

sigh of relief Hamdulillah we can get back to this, rather like the

01:43:18 --> 01:43:24

suddenness of the Renaissance in Western Europe, you go into, say,

01:43:24 --> 01:43:29

a palace of the Renaissance, but the Gothic thing has gone. And the

01:43:29 --> 01:43:32

image of the tortured saints have gone. And instead, you've got all

01:43:32 --> 01:43:35

of that kind of pagan deities naked flying around in the sky.

01:43:35 --> 01:43:38

Now, something very strange has happened to Christianity, but

01:43:38 --> 01:43:42

that's the kind of reflex they're snapping out of that unnatural

01:43:43 --> 01:43:46

ascetical mode. But the only language Western Europe could

01:43:46 --> 01:43:50

reach for was the language of pagan antiquity. So you have these

01:43:50 --> 01:43:54

real oddities you go into the clementine Hall in the Vatican.

01:43:55 --> 01:43:58

And everybody in the Vatican is kind of making war on the flesh

01:43:58 --> 01:44:02

and wearing scapulars and how shirts and pieces of barbed wire

01:44:02 --> 01:44:06

twisted around their leg and they're really into that. Although

01:44:06 --> 01:44:09

very polite people with it. And then you look at the way in which

01:44:09 --> 01:44:13

the renascence Pope's decorated these spaces in the ceiling of the

01:44:13 --> 01:44:17

clementine Hall is full of these kinds of fat pink ladies flying

01:44:17 --> 01:44:18

around in the clouds.

01:44:19 --> 01:44:24

This is this is an imbalance. And this is Europe moving back into

01:44:24 --> 01:44:27

paganism effectively it sensibilities.

01:44:29 --> 01:44:32

The Islamic world never experienced that there's no kind

01:44:32 --> 01:44:38

of desire on the part of Muslim princes at any point to return to

01:44:38 --> 01:44:42

the old Arab deities or the old Greek deities. There's no trace of

01:44:42 --> 01:44:47

that because that reflects against the monastic impulse the bear Nia

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didn't need to be there because the Quran had already brought a

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liberation from that false liberation. So I think one thought

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that we can

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do

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I entrust ourselves with is this idea that the whole idea of

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romantic love which you don't really get in, in classical poetry

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is not really in Ovid and Catellus, even though they have

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good love poetry, but the idea of real sort of romantic and literary

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verse

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compared to this period and this amazing sensitivity and sometimes,

01:45:23 --> 01:45:27

since you ality, Romans can't hold a candle to somebody like Omar and

01:45:27 --> 01:45:34

Abby, Robbie, and this, that Leila imaginal idea, eventually gets

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into Western Europe. And if you read

01:45:38 --> 01:45:43

several recent studies, Jeffrey unburden Islamic romanticism talks

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about how one of the key things that transformed Europe in the

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romantic age, at the time of the Enlightenment and onwards was the

01:45:52 --> 01:45:56

translation of Islamic classics, in Arabic and particularly

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Persian, into German and other European languages, giving them a

01:46:00 --> 01:46:07

Latter Day resuscitation of this early or mired, turn to romantic

01:46:07 --> 01:46:13

love as something that is positive and actually, even spiritually, a

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possibility. So I'm burdens viewers that without the existence

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of this Islamic idea of

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sort of Platonic that that real love, the whole Romantic movement

01:46:27 --> 01:46:30

in in Europe really couldn't have got going. And there's other

01:46:30 --> 01:46:34

studies of its impact on American literature as well, which is an

01:46:34 --> 01:46:36

interesting inversion of the stereotypes, isn't it when

01:46:36 --> 01:46:39

everybody thinks Middle East and Islam, it's all very kind of

01:46:39 --> 01:46:43

buttoned up and puritanical and monastic, but that may be a

01:46:43 --> 01:46:48

contemporary perspective, but as the life of Sita Sakina Bintan

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Hossein shows us, those people were diverse. And it was a time

01:46:52 --> 01:46:57

of, because it was a time of hope, a time of happiness, in the face

01:46:57 --> 01:47:02

of very considerable sometimes excruciating adversity and a time

01:47:02 --> 01:47:06

essentially, of the embrace of life, and of its brighter aspects.

01:47:06 --> 01:47:11

So that I think, does represent a paradigm of leadership. And one

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that in our rather darkening times, is one that we need to

01:47:15 --> 01:47:20

cherish rather than more than we do. God has not appointed the

01:47:20 --> 01:47:25

world, to be a kind of dangerous minefield, step on some dreadful

01:47:25 --> 01:47:29

thing, and God will send you to * forever. That's no, that does

01:47:29 --> 01:47:34

not do justice to the divine purpose, but rather the world is

01:47:35 --> 01:47:40

to be experienced as an extraordinary panorama of divine

01:47:40 --> 01:47:44

signs and beauty, or an is an aesthetic sizing document because

01:47:44 --> 01:47:49

through our sensibility to beauty, we recognize the divine in the

01:47:49 --> 01:47:52

physical world, which is an argument for God and therefore for

01:47:52 --> 01:47:56

revelation and for everything that matters in religion. So you can

01:47:56 --> 01:48:00

see her metabolism as being essentially

01:48:03 --> 01:48:09

resuscitation of the Quranic message. She is experiencing

01:48:09 --> 01:48:13

religion as something that gives us life you had to overcome uma

01:48:13 --> 01:48:18

your vehicle. The death focused Christianity, which Islam was

01:48:18 --> 01:48:22

replacing, was now swept away to be replaced by something that

01:48:22 --> 01:48:27

affirmed marriage and motherhood and life and biology and the

01:48:27 --> 01:48:31

normal functions of our created humanity. So not not Allah here I

01:48:31 --> 01:48:35

lay her in sha Allah, we will remember her with affection and

01:48:35 --> 01:48:38

respect. And if you do go to Cairo, it's worth going to the

01:48:39 --> 01:48:45

bazaar of Sita. Sakina saying a few words to one special place. So

01:48:45 --> 01:48:46

Monica, from

01:48:48 --> 01:48:52

Cambridge Muslim College, training the next generation of Muslim

01:48:52 --> 01:48:52

thinkers

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