Abdal Hakim Murad – Ebussuud Effendi Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
Share Page

AI: Summary ©

the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the
the the the
the the the
the the the
the the the
the the the
the the the the
the the the the
the the the the
the the the the the
the the the the the the the the the the the the the
the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the

AI: Summary ©

00:00:00 --> 00:00:05
			Smilla hamdu lillah wa salatu
salam ala Rasulillah while he was
		
00:00:05 --> 00:00:07
			a happy woman who Allah.
		
00:00:10 --> 00:00:11
			This has been a rather
		
00:00:12 --> 00:00:16
			varied journey through certain
		
00:00:17 --> 00:00:18
			interesting
		
00:00:19 --> 00:00:24
			bye biographical stories, taken
from the enormous length and
		
00:00:24 --> 00:00:28
			breadth historically and
geographically of the ummah. And
		
00:00:28 --> 00:00:32
			that's part of the point I suppose
to indicate that those who follow
		
00:00:32 --> 00:00:33
			the prophetic excellence,
		
00:00:35 --> 00:00:39
			have their own coordinates in
space and time and implement that
		
00:00:39 --> 00:00:44
			excellence in ways that are proper
to that particular location. This
		
00:00:44 --> 00:00:47
			is kind of obvious.
		
00:00:48 --> 00:00:53
			What I want to do today is to look
at somebody who is a leader in a
		
00:00:53 --> 00:00:56
			very distinctive context,
		
00:00:57 --> 00:01:00
			which is that of the Ottoman
bureaucracy.
		
00:01:02 --> 00:01:05
			A couple of months ago, we looked
at the figure of che hablo, honey
		
00:01:05 --> 00:01:09
			and Diablo see, it was as we saw
for a while, Mufti of Damascus,
		
00:01:09 --> 00:01:14
			which was an official Ottoman
appointment, but who by and large,
		
00:01:14 --> 00:01:20
			shunned the company of officials.
Even more so in our previous
		
00:01:20 --> 00:01:23
			lecture, the one we did in
Ramadan, on his on the Dean ollie
		
00:01:23 --> 00:01:28
			up the great saint of Muslim
Delhi, who had two doors in his
		
00:01:28 --> 00:01:31
			house, as you will recall, one
that it normally is and one that
		
00:01:31 --> 00:01:36
			it used to leave if any state
official should pay him a visit.
		
00:01:37 --> 00:01:40
			This is particularly the custom of
the,
		
00:01:42 --> 00:01:47
			of the Sufis in Islamic history
who prefer to take the side of the
		
00:01:47 --> 00:01:52
			population and particularly the
poor against the inevitable
		
00:01:52 --> 00:01:57
			depredations of Imperial
bureaucracies and civil services.
		
00:01:58 --> 00:02:04
			Not so easy a luxury however, for
those who work in the judiciary,
		
00:02:05 --> 00:02:08
			and Islam as a legal tradition
		
00:02:09 --> 00:02:14
			necessarily wishes to shape not
just the content, but also the
		
00:02:14 --> 00:02:18
			conduct and the procedural matrix
of the law.
		
00:02:20 --> 00:02:24
			In some contexts, such as that of,
say, 18th century, West Africa,
		
00:02:24 --> 00:02:28
			how was the land that was
administered in a very,
		
00:02:30 --> 00:02:36
			elemental, primordial, spontaneous
and bureaucratized way, the lack
		
00:02:36 --> 00:02:41
			of complexity in what was still
partly a nomadic society enabled
		
00:02:41 --> 00:02:46
			that, but in the context of North
India, under the great moguls,
		
00:02:48 --> 00:02:53
			with steep bureaucracy and their
propensity for shitty
		
00:02:53 --> 00:02:59
			elaborations, and the publication
of fatwah collections, and also in
		
00:02:59 --> 00:03:02
			the context of other Imperial
realities, such as the Ottoman
		
00:03:02 --> 00:03:09
			Empire, the procedures of the
judiciary and the ways in which
		
00:03:09 --> 00:03:14
			the Sharia apparently in its point
of origin, image emanating from so
		
00:03:14 --> 00:03:19
			different, a cultural and an
administrative context became a
		
00:03:19 --> 00:03:25
			matter of intense and inevitable
concern by jurists, they couldn't
		
00:03:25 --> 00:03:30
			like many of the Sufis just leave
by a backdoor. It was their
		
00:03:30 --> 00:03:36
			responsibility to step up and to
ensure as far as they could, the
		
00:03:36 --> 00:03:41
			ethical and Sharia compliant
application of the structures of
		
00:03:41 --> 00:03:44
			enormous creaking Imperial
bureaucracies and in the Ottoman
		
00:03:44 --> 00:03:48
			Empire. This was perhaps the
largest of them all, if you
		
00:03:48 --> 00:03:53
			venture into the moldering
corridors of the Ottoman archives
		
00:03:53 --> 00:03:59
			in Istanbul, you will see that so
much was retained maybe 110
		
00:03:59 --> 00:04:02
			million different files and
documents it said to be the
		
00:04:02 --> 00:04:07
			world's largest collection of pre
modern archives anywhere. Every
		
00:04:07 --> 00:04:10
			last thing was kept there, not
just in duplicate in the
		
00:04:10 --> 00:04:14
			provinces. Sometimes they
survived. Sometimes they didn't,
		
00:04:14 --> 00:04:20
			but many of them particularly from
the mid 15th century onwards, in
		
00:04:21 --> 00:04:27
			their crabbed Persianate civil
service, almost illegible
		
00:04:27 --> 00:04:32
			handwriting of a big Imperial
bureaucracy at the sublime port,
		
00:04:32 --> 00:04:35
			there be ally, it was a
bureaucratic state and needed to
		
00:04:35 --> 00:04:40
			be because of its size and
complexity and the fact that as
		
00:04:40 --> 00:04:45
			the early modern period dawns, the
Ottoman Empire was part of a
		
00:04:45 --> 00:04:50
			global world of trade, the
exchange of technologies and
		
00:04:50 --> 00:04:55
			information and simplicity was not
an option.
		
00:04:56 --> 00:04:59
			The longevity of the Ottoman State
the reasons for it
		
00:05:00 --> 00:05:04
			Continue to follow our brows. Why
is it that the British Empire
		
00:05:04 --> 00:05:09
			lasted maybe for 90 years, and
it's kind of established for the
		
00:05:09 --> 00:05:14
			Ottoman Empire lasted maybe for
600 years, still just about a
		
00:05:14 --> 00:05:19
			living memory for a few real old
timers in a few walk and Anatolian
		
00:05:20 --> 00:05:26
			places into our age. But it
emerged in the 13th century, which
		
00:05:26 --> 00:05:32
			is not bad for a single family. No
ancient Egyptian dynasty, father
		
00:05:32 --> 00:05:38
			to son lasted that long. So the
stability of this shadier centered
		
00:05:39 --> 00:05:44
			state and it's evident difference
from the original prophetic model,
		
00:05:44 --> 00:05:50
			the huge size of it, the variation
of languages and cultures, the
		
00:05:50 --> 00:05:55
			existence of things like
gunpowder, the necessity to
		
00:05:55 --> 00:05:58
			maintain a huge Navy, these were
things that are not part of the
		
00:05:58 --> 00:06:02
			original Syrah matrix for the
generation of the Shery and
		
00:06:02 --> 00:06:07
			required the careful exercise of
EHD had. So what I want to look at
		
00:06:07 --> 00:06:09
			today is to see how one of our
		
00:06:11 --> 00:06:16
			Muslim personalities, not
necessarily one without flaws,
		
00:06:17 --> 00:06:22
			existed in the context of that
enormous Constantinople civil
		
00:06:22 --> 00:06:28
			service, and was able to affect
change despite the enormous amount
		
00:06:28 --> 00:06:33
			of inertia that tends to affect
any large institution and to see
		
00:06:33 --> 00:06:38
			if we can offer some remarks about
how Islam was constitutionally
		
00:06:39 --> 00:06:39
			figured.
		
00:06:40 --> 00:06:45
			At the eve of modernity, what was
the interpretation and the
		
00:06:45 --> 00:06:49
			structures of Islam that were
inherited by the Muslims as
		
00:06:50 --> 00:06:53
			modernity starts to impact
firstly, through the advent of new
		
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56
			military technologies and the
printing press, and then the need
		
00:06:56 --> 00:07:01
			to embark in permanent treaty and
trading relationships with with
		
00:07:01 --> 00:07:04
			the concept of, of Europe, the
Ottomans are the ones who had to
		
00:07:04 --> 00:07:09
			deal with those questions before
anyone else did simply because of
		
00:07:09 --> 00:07:11
			their geography. They were a
European state.
		
00:07:13 --> 00:07:16
			The most prestigious core
provinces of the Ottoman Empire,
		
00:07:16 --> 00:07:18
			were taken to be the European
provinces.
		
00:07:19 --> 00:07:23
			Istanbul was a European city, the
previous capital adherence, there
		
00:07:23 --> 00:07:28
			had been a European city, they saw
themselves as rebellions in the
		
00:07:28 --> 00:07:31
			newest Anatolia, the other side of
the Bosphorus. And then after the
		
00:07:32 --> 00:07:36
			early 16th century, the Arab
provinces were added, but we need
		
00:07:36 --> 00:07:40
			to remember that the center of
gravity for colorful Islam was
		
00:07:40 --> 00:07:46
			taken to the European provinces,
Macedonia, Albania, Bosnia,
		
00:07:46 --> 00:07:49
			Hungary, these worth the
heartlands of kala for as long.
		
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55
			So let's see if we can use this
biography as an opportunity to
		
00:07:55 --> 00:07:58
			offer some reflections on
		
00:07:59 --> 00:08:04
			how that works. And to see the
extent to which classical, in this
		
00:08:04 --> 00:08:10
			case Hanafi, essentially 11th 12th
century horror, certainly some are
		
00:08:10 --> 00:08:14
			undone interpretations of the
Hanafi tradition,
		
00:08:15 --> 00:08:19
			successfully underpinned the
stability and that might have that
		
00:08:19 --> 00:08:23
			quality. And the extent also to
which it turned out not to be
		
00:08:23 --> 00:08:29
			practical, and indeed, of either
utilitarian or systematic HD had
		
00:08:29 --> 00:08:33
			based transformations. So let's
start to think about that. How
		
00:08:33 --> 00:08:37
			does the Sharia this seems to be
in many ways, the problem of
		
00:08:37 --> 00:08:41
			modern Islamic politics, which
emerges in specific space and time
		
00:08:41 --> 00:08:46
			in seventh century Arabia, and
which takes itself to be revealed
		
00:08:46 --> 00:08:51
			law and therefore, in principle,
not open to change, become the
		
00:08:51 --> 00:08:56
			successful Legal, jurisprudential
constitutional foundation and
		
00:08:56 --> 00:09:01
			fabric for a gunpowder Empire
almost 1000 years later, let alone
		
00:09:02 --> 00:09:07
			our modern world of big data and
globalization. So some
		
00:09:07 --> 00:09:10
			contemporary lessons here,
perhaps, but the person I want to
		
00:09:10 --> 00:09:15
			talk about specifically who is
really the parodic Matic Ottoman
		
00:09:15 --> 00:09:22
			Arlin, not just in terms of the
legal and the spiritual culture,
		
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25
			which he occupied, but the fact
that he is in a golden age is the
		
00:09:25 --> 00:09:28
			great scholar of the 16th century
stage of Solomon the magnificent
		
00:09:28 --> 00:09:35
			and Istanbul is the jewel of the
world. But also because, in many
		
00:09:35 --> 00:09:42
			ways, he understands the tension
that exists between local Imperial
		
00:09:42 --> 00:09:47
			pragmatism and the idealizing
discourse of the Sharia and is in
		
00:09:47 --> 00:09:50
			the Turkish memory at any rate,
regarded as the one who tries to
		
00:09:50 --> 00:09:56
			bring customary law, satanic
decree, together with the ideals
		
00:09:56 --> 00:09:59
			of the of the Hanafi Shediac. So
we'll see the
		
00:10:00 --> 00:10:05
			extent to which that is needed and
the ways that he found in order to
		
00:10:05 --> 00:10:08
			bring together that, in many ways,
		
00:10:09 --> 00:10:13
			difficult convergence. So this is
episode
		
00:10:14 --> 00:10:16
			ABC viewed as the taxi
		
00:10:18 --> 00:10:22
			generally regarded as the greatest
of the Ottoman scholars, which had
		
00:10:22 --> 00:10:26
			begun really with Gaudi ice at the
time of the first Ottoman capital
		
00:10:26 --> 00:10:30
			in in Iznik. In the 13th century
and ends with
		
00:10:31 --> 00:10:36
			Scheffel Islam was the for summary
in the early 20th century and the
		
00:10:36 --> 00:10:41
			abolition of the position of
Sheikh Al Islam may be a bigger
		
00:10:41 --> 00:10:44
			sort of constitutional earthquake
for the Muslims even though the
		
00:10:44 --> 00:10:49
			abolition of the the kala foot
because a Kaley foot in many ways,
		
00:10:49 --> 00:10:52
			as we will see is a kind of
symbolic figure
		
00:10:53 --> 00:10:57
			with very few executive and
religious functions, whereas the
		
00:10:57 --> 00:11:02
			Sheikh Al Islam was 100 years ago,
everybody was thinking about what
		
00:11:02 --> 00:11:05
			was the Schakel Islam's view on a
particular topic. And if you go to
		
00:11:05 --> 00:11:10
			Solomon's Great Mosque, which as
we'll see was really created in
		
00:11:10 --> 00:11:12
			partnership with apostles.
		
00:11:14 --> 00:11:18
			Next to the mosque is an empty
space, which is where the office
		
00:11:18 --> 00:11:21
			of the sheath of Islam was
located. If you're a British
		
00:11:21 --> 00:11:24
			Muslim in the 19th century, you
wanted to go on Hajj, and you were
		
00:11:24 --> 00:11:26
			called Toby or something.
		
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30
			The way to get that would be to
apply to the office of the
		
00:11:30 --> 00:11:31
			Scheffel Islam.
		
00:11:32 --> 00:11:36
			Not an Islamic papacy, but
certainly unanimously accepted
		
00:11:36 --> 00:11:41
			among Sunni Muslims as the highest
source of fatwa. So again, we'll
		
00:11:41 --> 00:11:45
			be thinking about what is the
legal system that has fatwas that
		
00:11:45 --> 00:11:49
			are not kind of executive
decisions, but a kind of
		
00:11:49 --> 00:11:54
			consultative or authoritative
statements? How does that fit so
		
00:11:54 --> 00:11:58
			Ataturk had the building,
demolished, of course, and the
		
00:11:58 --> 00:12:02
			last year when Islam was chased
into exile, and that kind of empty
		
00:12:02 --> 00:12:06
			space is sort of symbolic of
something that has caused many of
		
00:12:06 --> 00:12:11
			the decentralizing fissiparous
instabilities of the Muslim ummah,
		
00:12:11 --> 00:12:17
			ever since, I guess, 1926, the
post was, was abolished, and the
		
00:12:17 --> 00:12:22
			Kemalist were dancing on the grave
of the old Islamic constitutions.
		
00:12:22 --> 00:12:26
			So, Episode affendi, a little bit
of bio data, first of all,
		
00:12:28 --> 00:12:34
			and the bio data in the Ottoman
context comes from, in most cases,
		
00:12:34 --> 00:12:37
			although you can learn things
about the individuals by reading
		
00:12:37 --> 00:12:41
			their works, and particularly
their fat was anecdotes by
		
00:12:41 --> 00:12:44
			scholars of the day. But basically
the sources we have for the
		
00:12:44 --> 00:12:50
			hallmark of the Ottoman Empire
begin with a scholar called
		
00:12:50 --> 00:12:55
			Tashkent Rosada, who writes a book
called a Chicago, a nominee,
		
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00
			which is something like the purple
petals or something that really
		
00:13:00 --> 00:13:04
			like really flowery titles for
their books. And the writing is
		
00:13:04 --> 00:13:09
			quite extraordinarily Baroque and
florid as well. Not an easy read.
		
00:13:09 --> 00:13:12
			Tochka presided is one of the
great scholars of the 16th
		
00:13:12 --> 00:13:14
			century, puts together this work.
		
00:13:15 --> 00:13:18
			And he also writes a book if
you're familiar with Arabic
		
00:13:18 --> 00:13:21
			literature called a Mr. Harada,
which is very generally used, it's
		
00:13:21 --> 00:13:21
			in
		
00:13:23 --> 00:13:28
			Arabic, which is a list of all of
the grip sciences of Islam, and
		
00:13:28 --> 00:13:31
			those that have practice, not just
sort of Tafseer in Hadith, but
		
00:13:31 --> 00:13:35
			also geometry, what are the main
books on geometry and finding that
		
00:13:35 --> 00:13:39
			Qibla and all of these smaller
sciences, hundreds of them, as it
		
00:13:39 --> 00:13:44
			turns out, that Scripture is an
important scholar of the Ottoman
		
00:13:44 --> 00:13:48
			realm, and he organizes his book a
Chicago cannot earlier, not
		
00:13:48 --> 00:13:51
			according to the dates of the
scholars, but inconveniently
		
00:13:51 --> 00:13:55
			according to the reign of the
Sultan, in which each of the
		
00:13:55 --> 00:13:59
			scholars happen to die. So it
takes a bit of navigating
		
00:14:00 --> 00:14:05
			touchcare presided doesn't include
a notice on it pursued offended
		
00:14:05 --> 00:14:09
			because it's just too early. So
the main information that we have
		
00:14:09 --> 00:14:14
			for his life comes from his
successor, who is called no his
		
00:14:14 --> 00:14:19
			idea or thought you offended who
is also from Istanbul, but spends
		
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22
			much of his career in this group,
which is present day Scopia, which
		
00:14:22 --> 00:14:28
			is one of the great cities for the
ALA map and for judgeship, now the
		
00:14:28 --> 00:14:32
			capital of whatever they call it,
nowadays, northern Macedonia, but
		
00:14:32 --> 00:14:35
			still has some major Ottoman
structures there and it's
		
00:14:35 --> 00:14:40
			certainly a city worth visiting
and it still has a Mufti at the
		
00:14:40 --> 00:14:44
			moment is office but of course,
part of the national structure of
		
00:14:45 --> 00:14:47
			Macedonia sadly diminished.
		
00:14:48 --> 00:14:51
			But Muslims are 40% of the
population in Macedonia. They
		
00:14:51 --> 00:14:56
			survived the 20th century
massacres and it's still alive as
		
00:14:56 --> 00:15:00
			a Muslim place but many of the
great all about the altar
		
00:15:00 --> 00:15:04
			Minute by wood as part of the very
complex or almost ritualized
		
00:15:04 --> 00:15:07
			process of career progression,
spend some time in the great city
		
00:15:07 --> 00:15:12
			of this group. So I'll talk he is
in his group. And
		
00:15:13 --> 00:15:17
			partly during that time, he writes
his own book, which is a
		
00:15:17 --> 00:15:23
			continuation of touch could reside
this book, which he calls her dark
		
00:15:25 --> 00:15:28
			meadows of truths, which follows
		
00:15:29 --> 00:15:33
			the form of magic does translation
of touchcare Prasad is books, it
		
00:15:33 --> 00:15:38
			goes into Turkish and the same
old, annoying format, you have to
		
00:15:38 --> 00:15:40
			know the death dates of the
assault on and when the scholar
		
00:15:40 --> 00:15:43
			died before you can find the
notice. It's not alphabetical.
		
00:15:43 --> 00:15:46
			It's but these books are so widely
used by the scholars that
		
00:15:48 --> 00:15:50
			it was easy
		
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55
			if you are familiar with the
tradition to navigate, so we have
		
00:15:55 --> 00:15:59
			of course, as you would expect,
all of these books in the CMC
		
00:15:59 --> 00:15:59
			library
		
00:16:01 --> 00:16:05
			and here is his notice work read
all of it with all of its kind of
		
00:16:05 --> 00:16:08
			pulling out the organ stops of
Baroque
		
00:16:09 --> 00:16:14
			16th century prose but here we
are, and Manuel Azzam Ibusuki and
		
00:16:14 --> 00:16:19
			I Maddie and I Maddie is what they
call him but we don't really know
		
00:16:19 --> 00:16:24
			where this Eymard comes from. It's
they don't explain that who are
		
00:16:24 --> 00:16:29
			Dino and dunya so he he goes
trumpet blasts who I love so well
		
00:16:29 --> 00:16:34
			mana who will via to who was the
rebuttal all yours autonomo
		
00:16:34 --> 00:16:38
			facility in optimization was
removed till Annemie moved move
		
00:16:38 --> 00:16:43
			Neil bidder will certainly be at
the earland if toddy will is it
		
00:16:43 --> 00:16:46
			sorry Bill inertia, the ebony
sorry, Bill earshot blah, blah,
		
00:16:46 --> 00:16:50
			and then you get some complicated
poetry. So, it begins with his
		
00:16:50 --> 00:16:56
			fanfare, he is religion and to the
world. He is the expression and
		
00:16:56 --> 00:16:59
			the meaning of the expression. He
is the utmost limit. He has the
		
00:16:59 --> 00:17:04
			highest peak the soul time of the
commentators, the the vanguard of
		
00:17:04 --> 00:17:09
			the army of the latest scholars,
the Mufti of all nations, the
		
00:17:09 --> 00:17:14
			destroyer of innovations and sins,
the one who, whose robe
		
00:17:14 --> 00:17:20
			majestically trails the tech the
the train of generosity and
		
00:17:20 --> 00:17:28
			Felicity, you get the ideas is
very elaborate Baroque prose. And
		
00:17:28 --> 00:17:30
			he is Abu Hanifa Sani
		
00:17:32 --> 00:17:36
			he is the second Abu Hanifa. This
is what the Ottomans like to call
		
00:17:36 --> 00:17:41
			him because he's rising above the
parochialism, the pessimism about
		
00:17:41 --> 00:17:44
			what the latest scholars are able
to accomplish in Islamic history.
		
00:17:44 --> 00:17:48
			There's this kind of fatalism
about decline. But at the same
		
00:17:48 --> 00:17:52
			time, we the Ottomans have
produced another Abu Hanifa
		
00:17:52 --> 00:17:55
			Ottomans, of course,
overwhelmingly the heirs to the
		
00:17:55 --> 00:17:59
			Hanafi tradition. Hanafi tradition
really has it heartland,
		
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02
			particularly kind of formula
formulation.
		
00:18:03 --> 00:18:10
			earliest texts, it's Heartland in
Central Asia. Hola, San. The
		
00:18:10 --> 00:18:13
			Turkic speaking places Turkic
Farsi speaking some Afghans in
		
00:18:13 --> 00:18:14
			particular.
		
00:18:15 --> 00:18:19
			That's why 400 in Maori nanny
becomes one of the great
		
00:18:19 --> 00:18:24
			authorities for Ottoman is buried
very close to a man that already
		
00:18:25 --> 00:18:28
			who is really the founder of the
military, the tradition of Hanafi,
		
00:18:29 --> 00:18:33
			quasi rationalizing theology that
becomes the official doctrine
		
00:18:33 --> 00:18:39
			really, of the Ottoman state. So
the intellectual flow into the
		
00:18:39 --> 00:18:42
			Ottoman Empire is not from the
south from the Arab world, but
		
00:18:42 --> 00:18:46
			from the east. And there's
historical migratory reasons for
		
00:18:46 --> 00:18:50
			that. How did the Turks come to
the Anatolia and even the Balkans,
		
00:18:50 --> 00:18:56
			when they originate far to the
east, almost in Mongolia? Because
		
00:18:56 --> 00:19:00
			the Mongols are pushing them West.
Remember how Rumi leaves belt and
		
00:19:00 --> 00:19:04
			ends up in Konya? They're
refugees. Similarly, the Turks are
		
00:19:04 --> 00:19:09
			migrating to the west,
particularly the scholars. nomads
		
00:19:09 --> 00:19:12
			have been leaving for a long time,
and that's and working as kind of
		
00:19:12 --> 00:19:15
			bodyguards and henchmen and
heavies, and that's how they come
		
00:19:15 --> 00:19:18
			to dominate the Ambassade kala
efforts and even in the time of
		
00:19:18 --> 00:19:24
			bizarrely, these are the Seljuks
the Ottomans are the inheritors of
		
00:19:24 --> 00:19:28
			this east to west migratory flow
from places like Kashkari. Some
		
00:19:28 --> 00:19:34
			are kind sheshe which is now
Tashkent, Bukhara. Those are their
		
00:19:34 --> 00:19:38
			roots. They look to the east and
so overwhelming. It's a Hanafi
		
00:19:38 --> 00:19:42
			matter really tradition and in
herbal, so Old Settlers and legal
		
00:19:42 --> 00:19:46
			compendious, we don't really see
much reference to the other mega
		
00:19:46 --> 00:19:46
			hip.
		
00:19:47 --> 00:19:51
			Even though by his time the Arab
world, the shadowy world of Syria,
		
00:19:51 --> 00:19:56
			Palestine is part of Imperial
reality. And Sultan Solomon even
		
00:19:56 --> 00:20:00
			adds North Africa, Algiers becomes
an ottoman city which
		
00:20:00 --> 00:20:02
			He's Maliki, but it's a Hanafi
state.
		
00:20:03 --> 00:20:08
			So he's Abu Hanifa. The second now
		
00:20:09 --> 00:20:13
			we get the bio data then from,
I'll tell you fnd.
		
00:20:15 --> 00:20:17
			The most distinguished
		
00:20:18 --> 00:20:22
			contemporary presentation is
called an embodied form of magic
		
00:20:22 --> 00:20:26
			formula of Manchester University
episode The Islamic legal
		
00:20:26 --> 00:20:30
			tradition, which is really first
rate and actually quite accessible
		
00:20:30 --> 00:20:34
			explanation, not just of his life
and times, but also of the
		
00:20:34 --> 00:20:39
			intellectual challenges which he
faced as somebody who centuries
		
00:20:40 --> 00:20:45
			after the incipient of the Sharia
in Medina in the seventh century,
		
00:20:46 --> 00:20:50
			is seeing how it can still work in
a credible, justifiable way in the
		
00:20:50 --> 00:20:54
			context of this post Byzantine
Imperial structure. So I'm going
		
00:20:54 --> 00:20:57
			to be following Collins book
pretty closely
		
00:20:59 --> 00:21:05
			during the course of this journey,
so basic bio data we don't quite
		
00:21:05 --> 00:21:09
			know when he was born somewhere
around 1490.
		
00:21:11 --> 00:21:19
			And his early life is Anatolian
not rebellion. Romania is
		
00:21:19 --> 00:21:24
			basically the Balkan provinces of
the Empire rule many obsolete term
		
00:21:24 --> 00:21:30
			now, Romanian is the academic
world. Family is from a while the
		
00:21:30 --> 00:21:33
			minor place called a skillet,
which is kind of North Central
		
00:21:33 --> 00:21:33
			Anatolia.
		
00:21:35 --> 00:21:39
			His father was somebody called
mohideen, offended, who was a
		
00:21:39 --> 00:21:44
			pupil of a very distinguished
scholar called Ali Cousteau, who
		
00:21:44 --> 00:21:49
			is one of these summer can kind of
refugees, migrants, fortune
		
00:21:49 --> 00:21:55
			seekers who come to the new
imperial courts of the West, from
		
00:21:55 --> 00:21:58
			the east Ali Cousteau is a famous
astronomer
		
00:22:00 --> 00:22:04
			and helps to get astronomy going
in Felek amongst the Ottomans, but
		
00:22:04 --> 00:22:09
			also significant interpreter of
Arabic philosophy and theology.
		
00:22:11 --> 00:22:14
			During the reign of met met the
second, one of the things that the
		
00:22:14 --> 00:22:19
			new ruler had wanted to do was to
establish the kind of SAC city of
		
00:22:19 --> 00:22:22
			Constantinople as an intellectual
center.
		
00:22:23 --> 00:22:28
			So he would invite in scholars and
promote debates. And one of the
		
00:22:28 --> 00:22:29
			big debates was between
		
00:22:32 --> 00:22:36
			was about the effectiveness of
Imam Al Ghazali is refutation of
		
00:22:36 --> 00:22:39
			Ibn Sina, the famous to have it
and philosopher it's one of the
		
00:22:39 --> 00:22:44
			sonnet moments of Islamic
metaphysics, and the assault on
		
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48
			recognize this, these are highly
educated men magnet,
		
00:22:50 --> 00:22:54
			master of different languages,
wrote poetry, cultivated,
		
00:22:55 --> 00:23:01
			cultivated man, who wanted these
debates to be worked out what is
		
00:23:01 --> 00:23:05
			the correct relationship between
reason revelation, I know Calam
		
00:23:05 --> 00:23:09
			philosopher, he was interested so
he commissioned this big debate.
		
00:23:09 --> 00:23:10
			And some of the
		
00:23:11 --> 00:23:16
			the heavy guns include people like
hajizadeh, who is the Minister had
		
00:23:16 --> 00:23:21
			enclosures it who is the Chief
Audit of balsa, which again is
		
00:23:21 --> 00:23:24
			like who scoop one of these key
Imperial appointments.
		
00:23:26 --> 00:23:29
			And who writes a book called to
half a dozen philosopher
		
00:23:30 --> 00:23:35
			in which she revisits causality is
challenged Ibn Sina Ali Cousteau
		
00:23:35 --> 00:23:39
			is writing more from a kind of
Addisonian perspective, and then
		
00:23:39 --> 00:23:43
			come on Pasha is who is really the
first great autumn and Shavel
		
00:23:43 --> 00:23:48
			Islam. This line of shiftless
norms that we had until 1920
		
00:23:48 --> 00:23:48
			Something
		
00:23:49 --> 00:23:55
			writes a commentary on hundreds
ideas work that becomes Islamic
		
00:23:55 --> 00:24:00
			intellectual history in Istanbul
gets off to a bang with a very
		
00:24:00 --> 00:24:05
			interesting dialogue of the
different to halfwords. So Ali
		
00:24:05 --> 00:24:11
			Khrushchev is like the great uncle
of Abu Saud offended and that
		
00:24:11 --> 00:24:14
			strong emphasis on the kind of
philosophical rationalizing
		
00:24:14 --> 00:24:20
			approach leaves its mark on him at
his first teacher, somebody called
		
00:24:20 --> 00:24:21
			my Ed Zadeh,
		
00:24:23 --> 00:24:29
			who is based in a Massiah this is
a kind of nice central Anatolian
		
00:24:29 --> 00:24:31
			town, which is politically
important because it was the
		
00:24:31 --> 00:24:36
			customer the Ottoman Sultans to
get rid of their kind of annoying
		
00:24:36 --> 00:24:37
			teenage sons
		
00:24:38 --> 00:24:42
			and send them off as governors of
certain cities, which would be
		
00:24:42 --> 00:24:47
			cities with a kind of royal mosque
and a palace so it was comfortable
		
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50
			but also useful training for the
time when they would,
		
00:24:52 --> 00:24:56
			or at least one of them would end
up being successor to the to the
		
00:24:58 --> 00:24:59
			to the Ottoman
		
00:25:00 --> 00:25:05
			So alternate. So and asiyah is an
important place to be. And much as
		
00:25:05 --> 00:25:09
			we'll see of the Ottoman system
depends on patronage. How do you
		
00:25:09 --> 00:25:14
			get to be up all day, or grand
vizier, or Grand Admiral or
		
00:25:14 --> 00:25:18
			whatever. It was meritocratic to
some extent. And they didn't have,
		
00:25:19 --> 00:25:22
			unlike England at the time,
anything like a hereditary
		
00:25:22 --> 00:25:26
			aristocracy. This is important to
understand, because we think of
		
00:25:26 --> 00:25:30
			the Ottoman Empire as being kind
of feudal based on the peasantry
		
00:25:30 --> 00:25:30
			and
		
00:25:32 --> 00:25:33
			tax farmers. But
		
00:25:35 --> 00:25:39
			the Ottoman system, because it was
based on the Islamic law of
		
00:25:39 --> 00:25:43
			inheritance, didn't really have
the kind of inherited aristocracy
		
00:25:43 --> 00:25:46
			that comes from having a law of
primogeniture.
		
00:25:47 --> 00:25:51
			When the Lord of the Manor dies,
his estate, whether he likes it or
		
00:25:51 --> 00:25:57
			not, is divided up equally more,
according to Sharia principles
		
00:25:57 --> 00:26:00
			between his sons and the daughters
get something and widows get
		
00:26:00 --> 00:26:04
			something, if that's something
that he cannot do anything about.
		
00:26:04 --> 00:26:08
			So these bigger states get broken
up, inevitably over time. So one
		
00:26:08 --> 00:26:12
			of the features of Islamic
civilization is that big sort of
		
00:26:12 --> 00:26:15
			families of Dukes, barons, and so
forth that you get in sort of
		
00:26:15 --> 00:26:18
			English, Western history,
generally, certainly, in the
		
00:26:18 --> 00:26:23
			Byzantium context, doesn't really
exist in the Islamic context where
		
00:26:23 --> 00:26:26
			the Sultan when somebody dies,
we'll just appoint somebody else
		
00:26:26 --> 00:26:30
			has maybe helped him to win a
battle or written a nice book will
		
00:26:30 --> 00:26:33
			appoint him to be the new tax
farmer for that particular
		
00:26:34 --> 00:26:35
			region.
		
00:26:36 --> 00:26:38
			So a different kind of system.
		
00:26:39 --> 00:26:42
			And, but nonetheless, these
		
00:26:45 --> 00:26:50
			grants were in the royal gift. So
it was meritocratic, to some
		
00:26:50 --> 00:26:50
			extent.
		
00:26:51 --> 00:26:56
			If you want to battle, you could
expect to be rewarded. The Romans
		
00:26:56 --> 00:27:00
			had something quite similar to
this. But you couldn't expect to
		
00:27:00 --> 00:27:03
			pass it on to your eldest son,
particularly if you if you're
		
00:27:03 --> 00:27:07
			wealthy, everybody had several
wives, slave goals, it was going
		
00:27:07 --> 00:27:11
			to go to a lot of inheritors, it
would be broken up the soul time
		
00:27:11 --> 00:27:17
			would reclaim it. And somebody
else who just won a battle or won
		
00:27:17 --> 00:27:20
			the royal favor would be in your
house
		
00:27:21 --> 00:27:22
			the year after you die. So
		
00:27:23 --> 00:27:26
			a different kind of constitutional
arrangement that isn't really
		
00:27:26 --> 00:27:27
			feudal.
		
00:27:30 --> 00:27:35
			But at the same time, the system
of patronage How did you get these
		
00:27:35 --> 00:27:39
			plum jobs which are well paid jobs
in the Alanna hierarchy, what they
		
00:27:39 --> 00:27:40
			call the EMEA
		
00:27:42 --> 00:27:46
			or in the sort of, as it were,
more secular branches of the civil
		
00:27:46 --> 00:27:52
			service tax collectors and the
like. It was basically done
		
00:27:52 --> 00:27:56
			through having friends in high
places, and through somehow
		
00:27:56 --> 00:28:01
			getting into the charmed circle of
the royal family. So being a
		
00:28:01 --> 00:28:06
			Massiah was the first significant
step for him, because at the time,
		
00:28:06 --> 00:28:10
			this is now the 1470s, the royal
prince who is governing a Massiah
		
00:28:10 --> 00:28:16
			is Prince by as it who actually
ends up becoming buys it the
		
00:28:16 --> 00:28:21
			second the assault on 1481 to
1512.
		
00:28:23 --> 00:28:29
			Words ideas and they do a scholar
of a Massiah is hanging out with
		
00:28:29 --> 00:28:33
			the salt on to be an introduces
the at this time very young
		
00:28:33 --> 00:28:39
			episode to the prince. And under
Bayer's, it won't be as it becomes
		
00:28:39 --> 00:28:45
			assault on this friendship bears
fruit. So we had saw that rises to
		
00:28:45 --> 00:28:48
			the hierarchy. And the hierarchy
at the time meant that you were
		
00:28:48 --> 00:28:53
			appointed versus and redress, to a
fairly small college, and then to
		
00:28:53 --> 00:28:57
			a larger college. And then you
have become the gaudy because I
		
00:28:57 --> 00:29:00
			called he had to serve some time
as an academic first, if he was
		
00:29:00 --> 00:29:04
			appointed to a major town called
the maca, lokasi of Damascus, the
		
00:29:04 --> 00:29:08
			party of Sarajevo would be
appointed from the ranks of people
		
00:29:08 --> 00:29:14
			who really been teaching and
researching. And then after being
		
00:29:14 --> 00:29:17
			a quality for a while, you'd move
up to more and more prestigious
		
00:29:17 --> 00:29:23
			cities, so balsa, Edina, and then
Istanbul with the plum, that of
		
00:29:23 --> 00:29:26
			judgeships and the Ottoman Empire.
And beyond that there were three
		
00:29:26 --> 00:29:27
			further positions.
		
00:29:29 --> 00:29:32
			And these positions were called
the two military judges, or the
		
00:29:32 --> 00:29:39
			Alaska cars Oscar of Anatolia. And
above that, the military judge of
		
00:29:39 --> 00:29:43
			Remaliah. And then above that, in
a complicated way, but not
		
00:29:43 --> 00:29:46
			necessarily more powerful, but
more prestigious, and better paid
		
00:29:46 --> 00:29:50
			was the position of Sheikh Al
Islam, which was basically giving
		
00:29:50 --> 00:29:52
			fat to us. So
		
00:29:53 --> 00:29:58
			these military judges, emerged in
the context of the early rapid
		
00:29:58 --> 00:29:59
			expansion of the Ottoman Empire.
		
00:30:00 --> 00:30:03
			I, in which normally I call the is
the call day for a bit here,
		
00:30:03 --> 00:30:06
			particular place. And hopefully he
knows the place and usages of the
		
00:30:06 --> 00:30:11
			place. And Islamic law is really
quite responsive to local customs.
		
00:30:11 --> 00:30:15
			But if you've got the army and the
Ottoman Empire, we had a big
		
00:30:15 --> 00:30:19
			standing army, really the first
proper standing army, the world
		
00:30:19 --> 00:30:23
			had seen since the decline of
ancient Rome, not really a feudal
		
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26
			Navy, but they had a permanent
army in the Janissaries. They
		
00:30:26 --> 00:30:31
			could call upon landowners, of
course, as part of the conditions
		
00:30:31 --> 00:30:35
			of the satanic grant of the land
to perform military service and
		
00:30:35 --> 00:30:39
			were betide them. They didn't turn
up outside the assault on standard
		
00:30:39 --> 00:30:40
			on the day,
		
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46
			allocated for the beginning of
some new marching to Hungary or
		
00:30:46 --> 00:30:46
			something.
		
00:30:48 --> 00:30:51
			But there was a standing army as
well. And these huge armies,
		
00:30:51 --> 00:30:54
			100,000 men or more with all of
their camp followers, like moving
		
00:30:54 --> 00:30:58
			city, couldn't be subject to local
judges, but had to have their own
		
00:30:58 --> 00:31:02
			judge. And because the soul time
was with the army, in most cases,
		
00:31:03 --> 00:31:05
			this was like the whole state on
the move.
		
00:31:06 --> 00:31:10
			And because of the difficulties of
logistics, it would take about
		
00:31:10 --> 00:31:12
			three months to march from
Istanbul to the frontiers in
		
00:31:12 --> 00:31:16
			Europe to the gates of Austria or
Hungary, and it was like the
		
00:31:16 --> 00:31:20
			capital itself moving so to be the
judge of that army was a hugely
		
00:31:20 --> 00:31:23
			prestigious and important post
usually carried with it, the
		
00:31:23 --> 00:31:27
			benefits of associating with the
assault on writing beside him,
		
00:31:29 --> 00:31:33
			helping him to write his, perhaps
not very first week poetry as he
		
00:31:33 --> 00:31:38
			kind of rode through these Serbian
roads. And it will this was
		
00:31:38 --> 00:31:42
			important, so the military judge
of Anatolia above that the
		
00:31:42 --> 00:31:45
			military judge of Remaliah and
then you got to be the shakily
		
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49
			Sampson, what a inside it having
hung out with Prince Basie in a
		
00:31:49 --> 00:31:53
			Massiah is rising very rapidly.
No.
		
00:31:56 --> 00:31:59
			Episode father is mohideen
offended
		
00:32:00 --> 00:32:04
			doesn't just have an uncle who is
kind of Addison and philosopher
		
00:32:04 --> 00:32:10
			but also is very involved in the
life of the Tariqas the Tory cuts,
		
00:32:11 --> 00:32:14
			and is primarily known for this.
		
00:32:15 --> 00:32:20
			So Baylor's it to seems to have
had a great respect for him,
		
00:32:20 --> 00:32:25
			brings him to Istanbul and gives
him land and Bill's attacking
		
00:32:25 --> 00:32:29
			Azaria Sufi lodge for him, which
becomes one of the places where
		
00:32:29 --> 00:32:32
			members of the royal family
Imperial elite
		
00:32:33 --> 00:32:38
			heads of scribal offices and
palace will go for blessings and
		
00:32:39 --> 00:32:44
			ask advice from the from the CHE
from episodes father, so he seems
		
00:32:44 --> 00:32:47
			to unite in himself these two
worlds of the external and
		
00:32:47 --> 00:32:52
			internal which is normal for all
of that it's as alien way we saw
		
00:32:52 --> 00:32:55
			an abalone nebula see how it teach
in the morning to slough off in
		
00:32:55 --> 00:33:00
			the afternoon. Bringing together
these two seas is part of what the
		
00:33:00 --> 00:33:04
			major scholars do an always as
important for each jihad.
		
00:33:06 --> 00:33:11
			And this is regularly referred to
by the authors of solid
		
00:33:12 --> 00:33:18
			because the jurist usually has to
spend time finding the compromises
		
00:33:18 --> 00:33:23
			in the messy world of real human
situations. And the there can be
		
00:33:24 --> 00:33:30
			quite a few possible alternative
judgments on any given issue,
		
00:33:30 --> 00:33:34
			particularly if you're mufti,
there could be maybe half a dozen
		
00:33:34 --> 00:33:38
			different possible factors that
you can give in the context of a
		
00:33:38 --> 00:33:42
			given legal situation. What is it
that inclines the soul of the
		
00:33:42 --> 00:33:47
			jurists to think that one view
seems to be intuitively or humanly
		
00:33:47 --> 00:33:50
			the better one rather than the
other? To some extent, it's
		
00:33:50 --> 00:33:55
			subjective. It's the givenness of
the Mufti and life, whether he's
		
00:33:55 --> 00:34:00
			had an argument with his family,
whatever, there are human issues
		
00:34:00 --> 00:34:05
			at stake and the Allamah are very
aware of this, and want to make
		
00:34:05 --> 00:34:12
			sure that the jurist as the always
a he is making these choices is
		
00:34:12 --> 00:34:17
			not in a place of emotion and ego.
		
00:34:18 --> 00:34:23
			So this is the idea that a juris
prudence depends on spirituality,
		
00:34:23 --> 00:34:28
			you have to overcome the ego and
not get too involved in
		
00:34:29 --> 00:34:31
			I don't like the look of this
litigant. And he will I saw him
		
00:34:31 --> 00:34:34
			smoking and all of those things
that can sometimes sway
		
00:34:35 --> 00:34:40
			juries but has to be absolutely as
neutral as possible. And that's a
		
00:34:40 --> 00:34:45
			spiritual, not a legal exercise.
So, very often we find that the
		
00:34:45 --> 00:34:48
			really great legal thinkers in
Islam have been those who have
		
00:34:48 --> 00:34:53
			been quite actively involved in
Tasmania spirituality of various
		
00:34:53 --> 00:34:56
			kinds and the respect that later
generations show for their
		
00:34:56 --> 00:34:59
			judgment is partly a respect for
the
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:03
			An inner cultivation that has
enabled them to be as objective
		
00:35:03 --> 00:35:10
			and as also as merciful as
possible. So there is, episodes
		
00:35:10 --> 00:35:17
			father is constant, his nice new
techer in Istanbul. And this is
		
00:35:17 --> 00:35:21
			also very characteristic of the
Ottoman state that the Sultan's
		
00:35:22 --> 00:35:27
			like to have company, the
loneliness of power is a burden.
		
00:35:27 --> 00:35:30
			And they associate not just with
jurists,
		
00:35:31 --> 00:35:36
			but very often with Sufis as well.
And this is a consistent feature
		
00:35:36 --> 00:35:38
			of the Ottoman State right up to
		
00:35:39 --> 00:35:44
			89 in 19th century Istanbul, who
was maybe the closest of the
		
00:35:44 --> 00:35:46
			automat to Sultan Abdullah Hamid
		
00:35:47 --> 00:35:52
			Cheveley che from Damascus, having
a spiritual mentor, a palace
		
00:35:52 --> 00:35:57
			chaplain, if you like, was just
part of the way in which things
		
00:35:57 --> 00:36:01
			worked. And this goes right back
to the foundation of the dynasty.
		
00:36:02 --> 00:36:08
			And also the fact that these
miracle workers charismatic
		
00:36:08 --> 00:36:13
			leaders enjoy enormous support
amongst the masses. The guy
		
00:36:13 --> 00:36:17
			selling kebabs on the street
corner in salt on Akhmed might
		
00:36:17 --> 00:36:21
			really love the Mufti. But he's
not really going to get directly
		
00:36:21 --> 00:36:25
			involved in the reasons why the
Mufti is such a Great Mufti. But a
		
00:36:25 --> 00:36:28
			miracle worker, a saint, a Sufi,
somebody who's living a life of
		
00:36:28 --> 00:36:32
			poverty and helping the poor
curing people is more interesting
		
00:36:32 --> 00:36:36
			to the masses. And therefore one
important way for the ruler in his
		
00:36:36 --> 00:36:41
			very kind of Empyrion detached
Palace world of remaining in touch
		
00:36:41 --> 00:36:48
			with the masses is through these
purveyors of popular charisma. So
		
00:36:48 --> 00:36:51
			sort of Ohan in many ways, the
founder of the dynasty, spent a
		
00:36:51 --> 00:36:56
			lot of time with these people, the
famous Gately Barber, kind of
		
00:36:56 --> 00:37:02
			almost kind of animistic age of
ancient Turkish, too. So Worf is
		
00:37:02 --> 00:37:06
			the man with the deers because
famously, he used to hang out with
		
00:37:06 --> 00:37:11
			deer in the forest, he was forest
dweller, and
		
00:37:12 --> 00:37:15
			promised this whole time that he's
never going to leave his forest
		
00:37:15 --> 00:37:18
			and come to the palace. And the
only time when he obeys the
		
00:37:18 --> 00:37:23
			subtonic decree is when he
actually takes an enormous tree
		
00:37:23 --> 00:37:26
			from his forest, carries it on his
back and plants it in the
		
00:37:26 --> 00:37:29
			courtyard at the Sultan's palace
and say now I think it's alright
		
00:37:29 --> 00:37:33
			for me to spend some time here but
you should really come to the
		
00:37:33 --> 00:37:37
			woods if you want to be my
disciple. There's a big thing
		
00:37:37 --> 00:37:42
			between trees, spirituality and
satanic authority that is
		
00:37:43 --> 00:37:47
			persistent in Ottoman history that
goes back to the very early
		
00:37:47 --> 00:37:50
			Ottoman period when the kind of
nomads and they haven't really got
		
00:37:51 --> 00:37:54
			a city yet, so
		
00:37:55 --> 00:38:00
			that becomes characteristic. The
geekly Baba refuses to soul times
		
00:38:00 --> 00:38:04
			requests to live in his rice
Palace, says he prefers his
		
00:38:04 --> 00:38:08
			forest. But if the salt hunt
chooses, he can build him a place
		
00:38:08 --> 00:38:11
			for his disciples to live out in
the forest to take care. And so
		
00:38:11 --> 00:38:16
			steep patronage of dervish lodges
and monasteries, again, is one of
		
00:38:16 --> 00:38:21
			the ways in which the the elite
maintain sort of patronage and
		
00:38:21 --> 00:38:26
			connection with popular piety. And
this certainly continued in the
		
00:38:26 --> 00:38:31
			time of baozi it with the
relationship with episodes, Father
		
00:38:32 --> 00:38:39
			Bay as it is one of the the best
love tall tons, and many of them
		
00:38:39 --> 00:38:43
			they weren't the kind of guys who
you'd want to marry your daughter
		
00:38:43 --> 00:38:45
			particularly kind of rough,
		
00:38:47 --> 00:38:53
			isolated exercise and absolute
power in a difficult age and
		
00:38:53 --> 00:39:03
			geography Bay as it was known for
justice, or concern for the less
		
00:39:03 --> 00:39:07
			advantaged sectors of his
population and took seriously the
		
00:39:07 --> 00:39:11
			Ottoman claimed to be Arlen
Pienaar refuge of the world. So
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:15
			it's Bay as it who writes the
famous letter to the Jews of
		
00:39:15 --> 00:39:15
			Spain.
		
00:39:17 --> 00:39:21
			Okay. 1492 Ferdinand and Isabella,
disaster is coming not just to the
		
00:39:21 --> 00:39:25
			Moors of Spain, but also to the
Jews, who writes to them inviting
		
00:39:25 --> 00:39:31
			them to come to his well protected
domains. And many of them come. Of
		
00:39:31 --> 00:39:35
			course, this helps to repopulate
Istanbul and great and sober
		
00:39:36 --> 00:39:41
			traders, an economic asset but to
this day, the Jews of Istanbul
		
00:39:41 --> 00:39:45
			still speak a kind of antiquated
Spanish.
		
00:39:46 --> 00:39:48
			That's their heritage. They go
from one end of the Mediterranean
		
00:39:48 --> 00:39:53
			to another seeking Muslim
protection. So he's the one who
		
00:39:53 --> 00:39:57
			did that He even sent the Ottoman
Navy. It was it was quite a
		
00:39:57 --> 00:39:59
			journey at the time to Spain.
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			In order to get to the places
where Muslims and Jews are being
		
00:40:03 --> 00:40:09
			expelled, and he sends the famous
Ottoman Admiral canal race,
		
00:40:10 --> 00:40:13
			in his flagship, the Gherkin,
which is said to have been the
		
00:40:13 --> 00:40:16
			biggest ship in the world at the
time outside China, which carried
		
00:40:16 --> 00:40:21
			700 men, in order to go to these
coastal areas of Spain were almost
		
00:40:21 --> 00:40:25
			on the beaches, the Jews, and the
Muslims are congregating. Those
		
00:40:25 --> 00:40:30
			who refuse to accept baptism and
take them off to the well
		
00:40:30 --> 00:40:35
			protected domains. Navy is
important for the Ottoman Empire,
		
00:40:35 --> 00:40:37
			because if you think about the
geography, it's almost like the
		
00:40:37 --> 00:40:41
			Roman Empire again, where the
center of things is, is a sea, the
		
00:40:41 --> 00:40:42
			middle sea.
		
00:40:43 --> 00:40:48
			And the remainders of the
Crusaders, the Knights of St.
		
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51
			John, who have installed
themselves in the island of
		
00:40:51 --> 00:40:55
			Rhodes, are a real headache
because the holy warriors
		
00:40:55 --> 00:40:58
			Crusaders, and one of the big
things they do is to intercept the
		
00:40:58 --> 00:41:02
			ships that are taking people on
the Hajj. And one of the main
		
00:41:02 --> 00:41:06
			achievements of Solomon's reign is
that he reduces the island of
		
00:41:07 --> 00:41:11
			Rhodes and Chuck's out the Knights
of St. John, but in a kind of
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:14
			chivalric moment, he's so
impressed by the courage in
		
00:41:14 --> 00:41:18
			defending their fortress, that he
doesn't just imprison them, sell
		
00:41:18 --> 00:41:23
			them into slavery, but allows them
to leave some of his advisors so
		
00:41:23 --> 00:41:28
			these people, devils, don't let
them leave. But he allows them to
		
00:41:28 --> 00:41:32
			leave and they go to Malta, and
they're still there, the Knights
		
00:41:32 --> 00:41:35
			of St. John Sovereign Order, and
they cause trouble for the
		
00:41:35 --> 00:41:38
			Ottomans later on, and they were
raiding for slaves in North
		
00:41:38 --> 00:41:39
			Africa. Anyway.
		
00:41:41 --> 00:41:47
			So the Navy is also an important
part of the Ottoman Ottoman world.
		
00:41:47 --> 00:41:48
			So
		
00:41:49 --> 00:41:53
			by as it eldest son of method, the
conqueror, that oddly is somebody
		
00:41:53 --> 00:41:58
			who is patronizing these families,
but it's a difficult time because
		
00:41:58 --> 00:42:03
			there is it has a brother Gen
assault on who also wants to be
		
00:42:03 --> 00:42:10
			assault on and fleas and takes
refuge with the Pope of all
		
00:42:10 --> 00:42:16
			people. He goes to Rome, and the
Pope kind of imprisoned him. And
		
00:42:16 --> 00:42:20
			you can see the castle Santangelo
which is the Pope's Castle, which
		
00:42:20 --> 00:42:24
			is next to the Thai Boats, still
still there. And that's where a
		
00:42:24 --> 00:42:28
			gentle tone live for years and
years, with his wives and his
		
00:42:28 --> 00:42:31
			pages and his own scollard It's
kind of a little ottoman world in
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:35
			the center of Rome. And the pope
kind of holds him prisoner and
		
00:42:35 --> 00:42:39
			forces the Ottomans to pay an
enormous sum of money just for
		
00:42:39 --> 00:42:42
			keeping him there, otherwise let
him go and there'll be a civil war
		
00:42:42 --> 00:42:46
			in Anatolia is one of the big
traumatic moments of the Ottoman
		
00:42:47 --> 00:42:51
			dynasty gentle tongue goes to
France as well as the recent book
		
00:42:51 --> 00:42:55
			about him or the tragic figure who
writes them rather good poetry.
		
00:42:56 --> 00:42:58
			So, these are
		
00:43:00 --> 00:43:01
			troubled times.
		
00:43:02 --> 00:43:03
			But
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:08
			also a golden age in many ways.
		
00:43:10 --> 00:43:16
			And then we find episode is
working his way up as a kind of
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:19
			very junior scholar in his teens,
		
00:43:20 --> 00:43:26
			very proficient, he's become a
half as at a very early age and
		
00:43:26 --> 00:43:31
			with his father, he has worked on
the basic text and a few folk. But
		
00:43:31 --> 00:43:33
			he is
		
00:43:34 --> 00:43:39
			he gets his first break when he
becomes a new Darius which is the
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:44
			chief teacher because another
asset tended to be the kind of
		
00:43:44 --> 00:43:46
			possession of a given
		
00:43:47 --> 00:43:51
			a given teacher there will be
subordinate scholars, but to be
		
00:43:51 --> 00:43:54
			the Madera This was to be the lead
scholar with a daily salary have a
		
00:43:54 --> 00:44:00
			certain number of silver coins,
aka chairs. So you'd have a 10
		
00:44:00 --> 00:44:03
			object MedDRA service kind of
basic 120 Archer
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:10
			madressa was a bit better and so
forth. So he's appointed to this
		
00:44:10 --> 00:44:13
			little one. Now let me see if I
can read some of this awesome text
		
00:44:13 --> 00:44:15
			just because it's
		
00:44:17 --> 00:44:22
			a dead language, see if we can
revive it. Madrid is key and
		
00:44:22 --> 00:44:23
			they're positive.
		
00:44:25 --> 00:44:30
			In dazi Island, we will draw
division Minori of shore up Josie
		
00:44:30 --> 00:44:36
			shahadi almost the end of our
early holiday, for pedigree, etc.
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:41
			So, what our target is saying is
that he becomes, first of all,
		
00:44:42 --> 00:44:48
			a shining light, a candle lit in
the murderous of
		
00:44:49 --> 00:44:49
			this
		
00:44:50 --> 00:44:54
			village near Istanbul
		
00:44:55 --> 00:44:59
			where the light of his knowledge
amongst all
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:01
			present was
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:07
			a wonder even though he was just
still in the shade of his own
		
00:45:07 --> 00:45:10
			father and at the beginning of his
his
		
00:45:11 --> 00:45:12
			road
		
00:45:24 --> 00:45:25
			yes
		
00:45:26 --> 00:45:29
			sometimes you have to turn several
pages before you come to the verb
		
00:45:29 --> 00:45:32
			in these old Ottoman texts
		
00:45:43 --> 00:45:44
			Well,
		
00:45:45 --> 00:45:49
			the point is that he's made his
first break his teaching in this
		
00:45:49 --> 00:45:50
			little village near
		
00:45:51 --> 00:45:53
			Istanbul and he is
		
00:45:55 --> 00:46:00
			a person persisting in this until
another disturbing event in the
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:06
			life of the Emperor takes place in
the 15th 12 when they as it leaves
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:13
			the throne abdicates it's a little
bit unclear what's happened maybe
		
00:46:13 --> 00:46:18
			his been forced to resign by his
son. And now the emperor is in a
		
00:46:18 --> 00:46:23
			very different hands of assault on
Salim the first so Bay as it is
		
00:46:23 --> 00:46:28
			ugly, the just Salim is Yahoo was
the grim
		
00:46:30 --> 00:46:34
			and he is the paradigmatic Ottoman
obsessive conqueror during his
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:39
			eight years, he increases the
landmass of the Empire by 70% is
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:43
			the one who conquers the Arab
world is the one who at the Battle
		
00:46:43 --> 00:46:48
			of child Iran defeats the the
extreme war that she of Iran
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:53
			secures eastern Anatolia, his
spent his life in the saddle. It's
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:58
			even said that he dies as a result
of contracting a disease for
		
00:46:58 --> 00:47:04
			fungus that is produced in saddle
leather kind of dulls him to death
		
00:47:04 --> 00:47:08
			and his his grip morphed, it has
come up pressures are there. And
		
00:47:08 --> 00:47:13
			they have very close relationship
and camel pastures that in many
		
00:47:13 --> 00:47:19
			ways is the immediate predecessor
of episode in terms of the kinds
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:22
			of things that he writes about the
way in which he uses this post of
		
00:47:22 --> 00:47:28
			shameless Nam. In order to guide
the soul turn very irascible, in
		
00:47:28 --> 00:47:34
			many ways towards more correct
understanding of the Sharia is a
		
00:47:34 --> 00:47:40
			difficult kind of post in 1514.
		
00:47:41 --> 00:47:48
			More he didn't offend it, episodes
father dies. And in 1516, Ray and
		
00:47:48 --> 00:47:51
			Zadeh, who is his first kind of
scholarly colleague, and the one
		
00:47:51 --> 00:47:54
			who has helped him to get this
patronage die. So it's now in his
		
00:47:54 --> 00:48:00
			mid 20s. And it's really not clear
if Bayazid is gone. And his
		
00:48:00 --> 00:48:03
			difficult son is now in charge of
his father's garden whose patron
		
00:48:03 --> 00:48:07
			is gone, where is he going to go
next. This is not a world where
		
00:48:07 --> 00:48:11
			you can just send in your CV,
nobody knows you. And it looks
		
00:48:11 --> 00:48:15
			good. You're invited for an
interview. And up you go. It's
		
00:48:15 --> 00:48:19
			basically done through patronage,
who you know, and the Ottomans
		
00:48:19 --> 00:48:23
			would say that's a better system.
Because you're being recommended
		
00:48:23 --> 00:48:25
			by people who have a lot of
experience and can tell that you
		
00:48:25 --> 00:48:32
			will do the job in reality, a lot
of nepotism and the promotion of
		
00:48:32 --> 00:48:34
			incompetence, and even the history
of some of the leadership and its
		
00:48:34 --> 00:48:35
			norms. It's
		
00:48:36 --> 00:48:40
			the appointment of people who have
from an academic and even a moral
		
00:48:40 --> 00:48:41
			point of view. We're not
necessarily
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:43
			top drawer.
		
00:48:45 --> 00:48:46
			So he's in this little
		
00:48:48 --> 00:48:52
			village, and come on passions are
there who knows him who's the
		
00:48:52 --> 00:48:58
			sheikh, Al Islam offers him
another madressa. But it's at 25
		
00:48:58 --> 00:49:03
			silver coins a day, not 30 silver
coins a day. And he says no, and
		
00:49:03 --> 00:49:08
			he perseveres in this little mid
reset until he finds his next step
		
00:49:08 --> 00:49:12
			up, which is in a place called
inner girl, which is also the kind
		
00:49:12 --> 00:49:17
			of inner Ottoman provinces in
Bithynia, another 30 objet a day,
		
00:49:17 --> 00:49:19
			job and he moves there.
		
00:49:22 --> 00:49:30
			In 1520, setting the grim dies as
a result of this weird complaint,
		
00:49:30 --> 00:49:39
			and Solomon, the first accede to
the throne, the son of Ottoman
		
00:49:39 --> 00:49:45
			glory, has truly risen and the
Empire becomes unquestionably the
		
00:49:45 --> 00:49:50
			most significant political force
in Europe, Africa and Asia. It's a
		
00:49:50 --> 00:49:54
			major political reality in all
three of those
		
00:49:55 --> 00:49:56
			continents.
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:05
			A episode is introduced to the new
assault on who is already known.
		
00:50:07 --> 00:50:08
			And they seem to have had
		
00:50:09 --> 00:50:10
			a kind of friendship.
		
00:50:12 --> 00:50:16
			It's difficult in these very kind
of formal, bureaucratic
		
00:50:16 --> 00:50:21
			biographies to detect a strong
human element. They are
		
00:50:21 --> 00:50:28
			animalistic and formulaic. But
friendship existed then as it does
		
00:50:28 --> 00:50:31
			to them. So they might have a few
close friends, Ibrahim Pasha, his
		
00:50:32 --> 00:50:36
			Greek Vizio was certainly one of
them. They'd play together as, as
		
00:50:36 --> 00:50:41
			boys in the palace as a deterrent.
And it was the old offender is
		
00:50:41 --> 00:50:46
			somebody who is also close to the
salon man. And that friendship
		
00:50:47 --> 00:50:51
			goes on to create one of the most
important political sacral
		
00:50:51 --> 00:50:54
			partnerships in Islamic history
maybe even more important than the
		
00:50:54 --> 00:50:58
			connection between Emmanuel
Buzzelli. And there's almond milk,
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:04
			as we will see, so he starts to
get better jobs. He's now in the
		
00:51:04 --> 00:51:07
			capital, which is where everybody
wants to be. He teaches the double
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:12
			Pasha madressa He's now on 40
coins a day.
		
00:51:13 --> 00:51:16
			He He's also friends with Mustafa
Pasha, who is the first
		
00:51:16 --> 00:51:18
			significant sort of
		
00:51:19 --> 00:51:24
			aid to the new Soloman who gives
him a murderous set and then he
		
00:51:24 --> 00:51:29
			gets his key step when he moves to
the royal Nether aside the assault
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:34
			on near madressa in borsa also is
important. It used to be the
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:39
			Ottoman capital before a dealer
near many of the royal princes and
		
00:51:39 --> 00:51:43
			princesses are buried there. And
it's a very important indication
		
00:51:43 --> 00:51:46
			that you're part of the
establishment.
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:48
			We do detect
		
00:51:50 --> 00:51:54
			in the words of his contemporary
contemporaries, some sense of
		
00:51:56 --> 00:51:58
			his impressiveness as a scholar,
		
00:52:00 --> 00:52:04
			that he was known for his
quietness and for the stillness of
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:09
			his demeanor. He will be hugely
dignified and hieratic only speak
		
00:52:09 --> 00:52:14
			when was absolutely necessary,
never interrupted anybody and
		
00:52:14 --> 00:52:21
			never spoke without considering
his words in advance. So then, if
		
00:52:21 --> 00:52:22
			we can go back to this
		
00:52:24 --> 00:52:25
			I thought he offended
		
00:52:27 --> 00:52:31
			alters the tarihinde day
Abdullatif affendi urinary
		
00:52:33 --> 00:52:36
			modalities Amanda and Johnny B
Sharpie they've
		
00:52:37 --> 00:52:41
			moved to me that is to say they
may claim our roof whether it's a
		
00:52:41 --> 00:52:46
			man under South Africa who had a
shovel Shavon XRT Aldi, tr a lot
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:54
			ILA Sheriff Bulldog Albrook IG
Lila, best in a comment Jen filed
		
00:52:54 --> 00:52:59
			in the sheriff as I in a loop. So
this is the key moment where he
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:04
			gets one of the most desirable
professorships in the greatest
		
00:53:04 --> 00:53:05
			madrasa in the empire.
		
00:53:06 --> 00:53:11
			Mehmet the conqueror, as I said,
wanted to make his new capital, an
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:15
			intellectual center, and created
what was the kind of university
		
00:53:15 --> 00:53:20
			that the eight colleges softness
among around his Imperial mosque,
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:24
			fat, in fact, in Istanbul, and if
you go there, you can still see
		
00:53:24 --> 00:53:25
			that the buildings are intact.
		
00:53:26 --> 00:53:29
			Even though during the Attitude
Era, they were converted into
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:33
			nightclubs, and so forth. In one
friend of mine went to one of the
		
00:53:33 --> 00:53:37
			nightclubs and one of these
mattresses and said in the dome,
		
00:53:38 --> 00:53:43
			somebody had painted Allah JACC
Muhammad JACC. There's no God,
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:47
			there's no Muhammad, which is not
quite how Islam works according to
		
00:53:47 --> 00:53:50
			Salafi perspective. But anyway, in
the nightclub when you are drunk,
		
00:53:50 --> 00:53:52
			you could look up and see this in
a place that had been for
		
00:53:52 --> 00:53:53
			centuries.
		
00:53:55 --> 00:54:01
			Place for Sacred learning. Under
the current order in Turkey, some
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:07
			of those properties are being
restituted for Sacred purposes,
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:11
			but the son was really in the
Sunday world, the place to be
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:16
			greater colleges than anywhere in
the Arab world or in north India,
		
00:54:16 --> 00:54:22
			and very much as an imperial
foundation. well endowed with lots
		
00:54:22 --> 00:54:26
			of revenues coming in from Alkaff,
mainly in the Balkans to sustain
		
00:54:26 --> 00:54:28
			them and to make sure the
libraries were good, everything
		
00:54:28 --> 00:54:34
			was cleaned. This students were
well cared for, and it was kind of
		
00:54:34 --> 00:54:38
			the Cambridge of the Ottoman
Empire. So of these eight
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:43
			colleges, he is appointed to be
the director of the muftis
		
00:54:43 --> 00:54:43
			college.
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:51
			And as the text says, he stays
there for five years where his sun
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:55
			rises brighter. Now, as you'll
recall, what we said about the
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:59
			mode of preferment in the Ottoman
judiciary is that you would be
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:03
			In the academic world, dealing
with students, mastering the
		
00:55:03 --> 00:55:08
			texts, hopefully writing your own
commentaries on the text. And by
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:11
			informal process of peer review,
either people would use those
		
00:55:11 --> 00:55:12
			commentaries or they wouldn't.
		
00:55:14 --> 00:55:19
			And then there would be the key
step, not obligatory, but people
		
00:55:19 --> 00:55:23
			aspired to aspire to it, where you
would leave the madrasa and become
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:24
			a judge.
		
00:55:25 --> 00:55:27
			And if you were in a top
nonetheless, so you'd get a very
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:30
			significant judge ship.
		
00:55:31 --> 00:55:36
			And you became a judge before you
became Mufti. This was the way
		
00:55:36 --> 00:55:42
			they organize things. So Solomon
after he spent five years in the
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:47
			college at the fattier, appoints
him to be the Rumeli cause ascot.
		
00:55:47 --> 00:55:51
			In other words, the chief military
judge of Romania of the European
		
00:55:51 --> 00:55:55
			provinces, which is the second
highest religious post in the
		
00:55:55 --> 00:55:57
			entire empire.
		
00:56:00 --> 00:56:03
			See if we can look at the original
hair
		
00:56:06 --> 00:56:10
			character Ruby event the more
hideous affendi Uranus soldering
		
00:56:10 --> 00:56:17
			alumni room, when I hire to hire
more on all doula Sikhi Synod nzr
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:24
			it can be bhakti via Kabbalah
Froothie or loop Isha, I share I
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:33
			added separately. For for these
years, the rays of the twinkling
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:38
			glory of His knowledge shone out
over the position of being the
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:44
			distinguished Chief Judge of the
ever victorious army of Remaliah,
		
00:56:44 --> 00:56:45
			etc.
		
00:56:46 --> 00:56:50
			His in this person, by this time,
just about everybody in the empire
		
00:56:50 --> 00:56:55
			would have heard of him and would
have respected him and he is in
		
00:56:55 --> 00:57:01
			this post, as he says, For eight
years, which is a fairly long
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:05
			period, very often Ottoman
Judicial Appointments didn't last
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:08
			very long, partly because it was a
matter of changing political
		
00:57:08 --> 00:57:13
			alignments. Patronage people being
sacked sometimes for no good
		
00:57:13 --> 00:57:18
			reason, it was never very stable.
It was dependent entirely on the
		
00:57:18 --> 00:57:22
			whim of the small town and whoever
was whispering in the Sultan's
		
00:57:22 --> 00:57:23
			ears.
		
00:57:24 --> 00:57:29
			But we find that during this time,
and I guess this is where the
		
00:57:29 --> 00:57:33
			leadership qualities of a
bureaucrat become evident, and he
		
00:57:33 --> 00:57:39
			brings about some important and
enduring administrative reforms.
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:45
			Doesn't sound very exciting, a lot
of committee work. And he finds
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:51
			that the records for the Romanian
army are not impressive. And he
		
00:57:51 --> 00:57:54
			also finds that the systems by
which
		
00:57:56 --> 00:58:01
			the appointment to chemo Derris
positions and Goddess is
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:06
			a little bit, shall we say,
inconsistent, the records aren't
		
00:58:06 --> 00:58:09
			there, the procedures are not
standardized. How long should be
		
00:58:09 --> 00:58:14
			the default period of a judge?
What should be the staffing in
		
00:58:15 --> 00:58:19
			judgeship of a court of a
particular size? How many
		
00:58:19 --> 00:58:23
			candidates could be allowed to be
considered to apply for a
		
00:58:23 --> 00:58:27
			particular judgeship show the
Ottomans later impose as a result
		
00:58:27 --> 00:58:30
			of his reforms, a cap on the
number of people who can apply for
		
00:58:30 --> 00:58:34
			a particular position, they also
lay it down that a judge should
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:37
			not be imposed in a particular
city for more than seven years.
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:43
			These seem to be episodes,
innovations, that you have to get
		
00:58:43 --> 00:58:49
			somebody new fresh blood after
seven years. And then 1545 And he
		
00:58:49 --> 00:58:52
			reaches the summit of the entire
system, and he becomes Scheffel
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:53
			Islam.
		
00:58:54 --> 00:58:59
			As a result of his effectiveness
in organizing the army of Europe.
		
00:58:59 --> 00:59:03
			You have to remember this, again
is a time of campaigns, which
		
00:59:03 --> 00:59:06
			means that he's with the Army for
a lot of the time so assault on
		
00:59:06 --> 00:59:13
			Solomon, is riding off to Hungary.
Border becomes great Islamic city
		
00:59:13 --> 00:59:16
			of Buddhism with this Ortahisar
with its madrasahs and if you go
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:20
			to Budapest, you can still get
some sense of what it was like as
		
00:59:20 --> 00:59:26
			a Muslim city, good Ababa, the
great bektashi Saint of Budapest
		
00:59:26 --> 00:59:29
			is still there, the turban is
still maintained, it somehow
		
00:59:29 --> 00:59:33
			survived the violence of the
Inquisition, which the Hapsburgs
		
00:59:33 --> 00:59:38
			brought in when in, if it was
1686, or something the city was
		
00:59:38 --> 00:59:42
			lost in the Dar Al Islam and the
population was, was massacred.
		
00:59:43 --> 00:59:47
			But it was an important Ottoman
city for a while in majority stone
		
00:59:47 --> 00:59:51
			in ultimate Hungary. But this
involved
		
00:59:53 --> 00:59:55
			obviously a lot of legal issues.
The army is marching through
		
00:59:55 --> 00:59:59
			different kinds of provinces,
soldiers misbehave, what to do
		
00:59:59 --> 00:59:59
			with can't follow
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:03
			as what to do with soldiers who
are gambling with dice what to do
		
01:00:03 --> 01:00:07
			with people who have stolen from
legitimate subjects of the assault
		
01:00:07 --> 01:00:10
			on there's a lot of judicial
issues that arise. And it's
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:13
			important because the Ottomans
like to maintain absolute
		
01:00:13 --> 01:00:15
			discipline in their army.
		
01:00:16 --> 01:00:20
			The nation generally is travelers
who observed the Ottoman armies
		
01:00:20 --> 01:00:23
			marched through Europe were amazed
by the kind of machine like
		
01:00:23 --> 01:00:27
			precision with which camp would be
struck every morning that march
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:30
			until noon. The orderliness of it
the lack of drunkenness, the fact
		
01:00:30 --> 01:00:33
			that the assault on would always
punish anybody who had been
		
01:00:33 --> 01:00:39
			stealing from Christian or Muslim
villages, it was rigorous, almost
		
01:00:39 --> 01:00:40
			a monastic
		
01:00:41 --> 01:00:45
			procedure, but three months
marching under the campaigning
		
01:00:45 --> 01:00:48
			season, and then marching back
again, if you want to know why the
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:52
			Ottomans didn't continue Europe in
the grip of Mad religious wars at
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:56
			the time, the Reformation, why
they didn't capture Vienna and
		
01:00:56 --> 01:01:00
			move on. And if you go to St.
Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna,
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:02
			they still have the Turkish
cannonballs stuck in the roof of
		
01:01:02 --> 01:01:04
			the cathedral.
		
01:01:05 --> 01:01:08
			They were very close. They were in
Central Europe, not Eastern Europe
		
01:01:08 --> 01:01:13
			any longer. Basically, it seems to
be because the campaigning season
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:18
			was so short. You need to get your
enormous army of 100,000 men with
		
01:01:18 --> 01:01:25
			camels and huge artillery all the
way to the gates of Vienna. And
		
01:01:25 --> 01:01:28
			then you'd have to get back again
before winter set in. So the
		
01:01:28 --> 01:01:31
			campaigning season as they moved
into Europe just got shorter and
		
01:01:31 --> 01:01:35
			shorter until the conquests became
more and more difficult.
		
01:01:37 --> 01:01:40
			But if they'd captured Vienna and
broken through into Germany, which
		
01:01:40 --> 01:01:45
			is completely prostrate because of
the the wars of religion between
		
01:01:45 --> 01:01:48
			the Lutherans and the Catholics,
European history would have been
		
01:01:48 --> 01:01:52
			different. But in any case, that
was not the divine decree. But
		
01:01:54 --> 01:01:59
			this role as the order of the
judicial processes of the army of
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:04
			Europe. Impressed Selena and so he
makes him Scheffel Islam.
		
01:02:07 --> 01:02:10
			This is a post which as I
mentioned earlier, has kind of
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:14
			floated beyond the Muslim memory.
We don't think of Sunni Islam as
		
01:02:14 --> 01:02:15
			having a kind of
		
01:02:19 --> 01:02:23
			Grand Mufti of everyone.
Everything has become shattered
		
01:02:23 --> 01:02:27
			into Mufti of Egypt in the Mufti
of Syria and the Mufti of
		
01:02:27 --> 01:02:27
			wherever.
		
01:02:29 --> 01:02:32
			Australia has a Mufti and it's
kind of vague and unclear as to
		
01:02:32 --> 01:02:36
			the authority of these people and
the role.
		
01:02:37 --> 01:02:42
			That's a kind of pale, often
disappointing shadow of what the
		
01:02:42 --> 01:02:47
			Ottomans were trying to do. So who
is the shaker list on and what?
		
01:02:48 --> 01:02:52
			What was his job? It's not a
judge's position. It's a muftis
		
01:02:52 --> 01:02:53
			position.
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:59
			In other words, he is dealing with
all of the questions that people
		
01:02:59 --> 01:03:02
			want to raise to the highest
possible level in the judiciary.
		
01:03:02 --> 01:03:06
			And there's a huge number of
questions a whole lizard, of
		
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10
			people writing, in fact, was so
appalling to one of his
		
01:03:10 --> 01:03:17
			contemporaries, episode as Mufti.
For decades. After the Sabbath
		
01:03:17 --> 01:03:20
			numbers or the morning prayer
would sit down and the factual
		
01:03:20 --> 01:03:23
			questions would come to him and he
would dispatch them very
		
01:03:23 --> 01:03:27
			efficiently until he'd finished
sometime around the afternoon
		
01:03:27 --> 01:03:33
			prayer every day. Sometimes there
would be over 1000 fetters every
		
01:03:33 --> 01:03:38
			day. And each one a major
religious, legal responsibility.
		
01:03:40 --> 01:03:43
			Despite their numerosity they will
each very important to the
		
01:03:43 --> 01:03:48
			individual suppose I divorced from
my wife, can I take this patch of
		
01:03:48 --> 01:03:53
			land it's nobody's nobody's using.
I've been paid with bad coin. What
		
01:03:53 --> 01:03:57
			what remedy Do I Have you can
imagine a lot of things but not as
		
01:03:57 --> 01:04:01
			judged but as Mufti. In other
words, his fatwas don't have any
		
01:04:01 --> 01:04:04
			executive authority that has
fatwas. But because of his
		
01:04:04 --> 01:04:08
			closeness to the assault on and
the fact that he's fat was so
		
01:04:08 --> 01:04:13
			respected by the Goddess. These
are important legal documents. And
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:16
			we still have some of them, even
though kind of they were consigned
		
01:04:16 --> 01:04:20
			to wastepaper, or shortly after
being used, but some scholars did
		
01:04:20 --> 01:04:24
			kind of keep them because of
episodes status and kind of kept
		
01:04:24 --> 01:04:28
			them in scrapbooks. And we still
have some of those. Basically, an
		
01:04:28 --> 01:04:31
			ottoman photo was presented in a
fairly standardized form, from the
		
01:04:31 --> 01:04:34
			15th century right up to the 20th
century, a very long, thin piece
		
01:04:34 --> 01:04:35
			of paper.
		
01:04:37 --> 01:04:38
			At the top,
		
01:04:39 --> 01:04:44
			who he the divine name, and then a
blank space which they call the
		
01:04:44 --> 01:04:49
			space of respect. And then not the
Torah, the soul tonic kind of
		
01:04:49 --> 01:04:55
			cipher, but instead formula asking
for God's support, and then the
		
01:04:55 --> 01:04:59
			question and then the Mufti is
answered. He said,
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:02
			Nature had to be there. And then
afterwards,
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:08
			something like that the lowest of
humanity, which is how the wealthy
		
01:05:08 --> 01:05:11
			would describe himself. And they
tend to be in this in this format.
		
01:05:12 --> 01:05:16
			Now, because there's so many of
them Aebersold, again, with his
		
01:05:16 --> 01:05:21
			administrative gifts, wants to
reduce the amount of work that he
		
01:05:21 --> 01:05:23
			has to do working out people's
handwriting or exactly what
		
01:05:23 --> 01:05:30
			somebody is asking, or it's in bad
Turkish or whatever. So he builds
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:34
			up the civil service in the
federal office, and appoints a
		
01:05:34 --> 01:05:37
			chief fatwah clock fit for me,
		
01:05:39 --> 01:05:42
			was responsible for making sure
that when these documents hit the
		
01:05:42 --> 01:05:45
			mufflers in tray, they're in a
format that enables them to be
		
01:05:45 --> 01:05:51
			turned around easily. So the
question is carefully formulated.
		
01:05:52 --> 01:05:57
			And it always is always anonymous.
It's not I Mustafa, and my wife is
		
01:05:57 --> 01:06:01
			smoking. What right do I have to
deal with her and her father is on
		
01:06:01 --> 01:06:05
			her side, not that kind of thing,
but instead formulaic. So Zaid and
		
01:06:05 --> 01:06:09
			Hynd have this problem. What is
the opinion of the Hanafi jurists
		
01:06:09 --> 01:06:13
			on this? It's always anonymized
and standardized. So the more he
		
01:06:13 --> 01:06:13
			can
		
01:06:14 --> 01:06:15
			turn it around quickly.
		
01:06:18 --> 01:06:23
			Whether he actually wrote all of
them, or whether his staff were
		
01:06:23 --> 01:06:27
			kind of just asking him to sign
something, because the same
		
01:06:27 --> 01:06:30
			question has arisen many times, we
don't know. But it is clear that
		
01:06:30 --> 01:06:32
			many of them he did deal with
himself.
		
01:06:34 --> 01:06:36
			And in some cases, for instance,
		
01:06:37 --> 01:06:42
			there's a famous one where the
factual question comes in the form
		
01:06:42 --> 01:06:43
			of a Persian poem.
		
01:06:44 --> 01:06:48
			An episode takes time out to write
his response in the form of
		
01:06:48 --> 01:06:51
			another Persian poem. So you get
that kind of
		
01:06:53 --> 01:07:01
			phenomenon. And he is clearly
aware of his responsibilities in
		
01:07:01 --> 01:07:04
			this, he doesn't have time in this
little piece of paper to give you
		
01:07:04 --> 01:07:07
			all of that Quranic verses in the
Hadith. It's not really what a
		
01:07:07 --> 01:07:11
			Mufti does. It's not a detailed
tract. If he had it, you're saying
		
01:07:12 --> 01:07:15
			js or all or almost this is
legitimate. This is not
		
01:07:15 --> 01:07:19
			legitimate. This is impossible,
simple answers like that. And
		
01:07:19 --> 01:07:23
			maybe he'll give an indication of
where this is found in one of the
		
01:07:23 --> 01:07:28
			standard Hanafi fatwah texts. So
the generation of fatwas is
		
01:07:28 --> 01:07:31
			important, particularly in the
Hanafi legal tradition, it's one
		
01:07:31 --> 01:07:34
			of the great genres of Hanafi
legal production, they have their
		
01:07:34 --> 01:07:38
			commentaries like Midori, and then
the competence on Kadoorie and MFI
		
01:07:38 --> 01:07:41
			nanny, and Marchione produces his
own commentary on his own
		
01:07:41 --> 01:07:45
			explanation of Kaduri and it kind
of accumulates in crusts with
		
01:07:45 --> 01:07:49
			different commentaries and glosses
and super glosses over the years
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:54
			and episode also writes in that
genre. But another important genre
		
01:07:54 --> 01:07:58
			of Hanafi fiqh writing is the
reseller, which is a jurist
		
01:07:58 --> 01:08:03
			writing about a particular
question. So episode deals with a
		
01:08:03 --> 01:08:08
			question of wiping over boots to
prepare for prayer, which if
		
01:08:08 --> 01:08:12
			you're in the army, marching
through the snow In, in Croatia or
		
01:08:12 --> 01:08:17
			something is an important issue.
So particular issues are dealt
		
01:08:17 --> 01:08:21
			with sometimes in this reseller
genre. But the collection of
		
01:08:21 --> 01:08:24
			fatwas is also really important
and goes back in the Hanafi
		
01:08:24 --> 01:08:27
			tradition, particularly the
fetters of gaudy Han, which is
		
01:08:27 --> 01:08:30
			still used, which is, I think, a
12th century Central Asian
		
01:08:30 --> 01:08:32
			collection of fatwas.
		
01:08:33 --> 01:08:36
			And then, for the Ottomans, an
important federal collection was
		
01:08:36 --> 01:08:43
			called the Bezier, which is a mid
15th century collection of updated
		
01:08:43 --> 01:08:47
			Hanafi. That was written by
somebody called ebony bazaars, who
		
01:08:47 --> 01:08:50
			was from Crimea. Ottoman Empire
was big premiere, still
		
01:08:50 --> 01:08:53
			independent at that time under the
gear identity, but it's a Muslim
		
01:08:53 --> 01:08:57
			country. And photography
businesses here continue to be an
		
01:08:57 --> 01:09:02
			important source of photos for the
for the Hanafi Ottomans. But I'm
		
01:09:02 --> 01:09:05
			also old, even though he doesn't
himself, put his photos together
		
01:09:05 --> 01:09:09
			in a single book, there are so
respected not just because of his
		
01:09:09 --> 01:09:13
			charisma, but because they're just
they just seem to be intuitively
		
01:09:13 --> 01:09:14
			right.
		
01:09:15 --> 01:09:19
			They are collected subsequently
and even referred to today. modern
		
01:09:19 --> 01:09:24
			Turkey what was episodes view of
Sufi dancing or something? There
		
01:09:24 --> 01:09:24
			it is.
		
01:09:25 --> 01:09:32
			So, these become really important.
He's not the chief justice or the
		
01:09:32 --> 01:09:36
			attorney general. In that sense,
he is offering his view as to what
		
01:09:36 --> 01:09:40
			is legally correct. And these
documents then go to the Sultan or
		
01:09:40 --> 01:09:45
			go to the army heads. Should this
Janissary be lashed for stealing a
		
01:09:45 --> 01:09:49
			goat or something that is not
Mufti? To put that into practice,
		
01:09:49 --> 01:09:54
			but at least the army officer,
Military Police will know what to
		
01:09:54 --> 01:09:58
			do. They're the executive
executive on so
		
01:09:59 --> 01:10:00
			they
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:04
			Mmm. He is a great administrative
reformer and is able to turn
		
01:10:04 --> 01:10:06
			around all of these questions
		
01:10:07 --> 01:10:08
			every day.
		
01:10:11 --> 01:10:15
			Normally, they are in Turkish,
even though most of the Allamah
		
01:10:15 --> 01:10:18
			are writing in Arabic.
		
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22
			And the fact that they're in
fairly straightforward Turkish,
		
01:10:23 --> 01:10:28
			means that they become well known
amongst the population, which is
		
01:10:28 --> 01:10:31
			largely Turkish speaking.
		
01:10:33 --> 01:10:38
			Now, I mentioned that even though
he's head of the religious
		
01:10:38 --> 01:10:41
			hierarchy, he doesn't have any
kind of authority. He's not like
		
01:10:41 --> 01:10:46
			the Pope, who is a temporal
Prince, as well as being the head
		
01:10:46 --> 01:10:49
			of the Catholic Church and has his
own domains and his sovereign
		
01:10:49 --> 01:10:53
			ruler and a crown. The Schakel
Islam is never like that.
		
01:10:54 --> 01:10:59
			The executive where is the
executive in Islamic law? This is
		
01:11:00 --> 01:11:04
			the Hanafi is, in particular, an
interesting question.
		
01:11:05 --> 01:11:08
			So on the one hand, we tend to
think of the Ottoman states as
		
01:11:08 --> 01:11:12
			sort of Oriental despotism, there
is the Sultan with his passions,
		
01:11:12 --> 01:11:16
			and His word is law, and everybody
else is quaking in their boots.
		
01:11:17 --> 01:11:19
			In reality, in
		
01:11:20 --> 01:11:25
			Hanafy law, it can't be like that.
And this is perhaps the most
		
01:11:25 --> 01:11:29
			interesting aspect of what episode
is trying to do with the Sharia.
		
01:11:30 --> 01:11:34
			The Turks are inheriting Persian,
and also ancient Turkish
		
01:11:34 --> 01:11:36
			traditions of kingship.
		
01:11:38 --> 01:11:40
			They have a whole list of titles,
		
01:11:42 --> 01:11:45
			master of the two seas, blah,
blah, servant of the two holy
		
01:11:45 --> 01:11:51
			cities, ha Khan, which is an
ancient Turkish title, so they
		
01:11:51 --> 01:11:55
			inherit the mantle of ancient
Central Asian, Turkish nomadic
		
01:11:55 --> 01:12:00
			chiefs. But they're also Caesar.
Because Constantinople so they're
		
01:12:00 --> 01:12:03
			heirs to the Roman Empire, which
the Europeans never accept that
		
01:12:03 --> 01:12:07
			they think is pretty obvious.
Romans were Christians and why
		
01:12:08 --> 01:12:13
			Muslims be Caesar's as well as
Christians, and inherit the
		
01:12:13 --> 01:12:16
			Persian traditions of statecraft
that they've inherited through the
		
01:12:16 --> 01:12:20
			Seljuk tradition in Anatolia with
Celtic roots. Administratively,
		
01:12:20 --> 01:12:24
			Islamically, basically being in
the Iranian plateau. So the
		
01:12:24 --> 01:12:29
			inheriting all of these different
things. But even though many of
		
01:12:29 --> 01:12:34
			those kingly and sole tonic
traditions are authoritarian,
		
01:12:35 --> 01:12:40
			particularly those rooted in Roman
and Persian precedents, the Sharia
		
01:12:41 --> 01:12:45
			actually insist on something
strangely different is one of the
		
01:12:45 --> 01:12:49
			problems that the Ottomans are
always contending with. On one
		
01:12:49 --> 01:12:53
			hand, there is the master of the
two seas and his amazing palace.
		
01:12:54 --> 01:12:58
			And the rulers of Europe tremble
at his name. On the other hand, if
		
01:12:58 --> 01:13:02
			you look in the Hanafi books of
Fick, What power does he have?
		
01:13:03 --> 01:13:05
			And it turns out, not a lot.
		
01:13:07 --> 01:13:10
			And this becomes one of the
defining tensions of the Ottoman
		
01:13:11 --> 01:13:16
			politics because for the Hanafi
consensus, a ruler only does four
		
01:13:16 --> 01:13:17
			things.
		
01:13:18 --> 01:13:22
			Firstly, he establishes the
legitimacy of the Friday and the
		
01:13:22 --> 01:13:23
			Eid prayers.
		
01:13:24 --> 01:13:29
			In Islam, that's a subtonic
government phenomenon. If the
		
01:13:29 --> 01:13:31
			Sultan has an authorized the
Friday prayer in a particular
		
01:13:31 --> 01:13:33
			place, and people just praise her.
		
01:13:35 --> 01:13:38
			And he can retrospectively
acknowledge the validity of a
		
01:13:38 --> 01:13:41
			Friday Prayer afterwards, but it
really depends on him.
		
01:13:42 --> 01:13:46
			Where you see your Eid prayer, you
can't just go out to some field
		
01:13:46 --> 01:13:51
			and do it. It has to be a place
designated by this whole time. The
		
01:13:51 --> 01:13:54
			Sultan's name is mentioned as an
important part of the hotbar.
		
01:13:55 --> 01:13:59
			That's the the position in the
traditional Sunday math hubs. And
		
01:13:59 --> 01:14:04
			ideally, the ruler himself is
leading the Friday prayer Well,
		
01:14:04 --> 01:14:06
			that's what happened for a very
long time.
		
01:14:09 --> 01:14:14
			If you go to Makkah, now you'll
see this enormous Palace and the
		
01:14:14 --> 01:14:17
			king one is in Makkah, supposedly
is on the top balcony and
		
01:14:17 --> 01:14:20
			following the Juma for Friday
prayers. The old days even King
		
01:14:20 --> 01:14:23
			Fahad used to attend the prayer in
the harem, but now they're in this
		
01:14:23 --> 01:14:30
			kind of air conditioned place far
away. But Properly speaking, the
		
01:14:30 --> 01:14:33
			rulers should be leading the
Friday prayers and giving the
		
01:14:33 --> 01:14:33
			hotbar
		
01:14:34 --> 01:14:39
			with a sword. That's the tradition
and even today you see in the
		
01:14:39 --> 01:14:43
			mosques in the Ottoman tradition.
There's a lot of kind of political
		
01:14:43 --> 01:14:47
			symbolism the names of the first
4k lifts will almost invariably be
		
01:14:47 --> 01:14:52
			there. There'll be a flag on the
minbar which is the kala fulsol,
		
01:14:52 --> 01:14:57
			tonic, ottoman, present and start
it's very much a government
		
01:14:57 --> 01:15:00
			expression. And that's one
		
01:15:00 --> 01:15:02
			have the four functions one of the
four things that the ruler can and
		
01:15:02 --> 01:15:03
			must do.
		
01:15:05 --> 01:15:11
			function number two of a Muslim
ruler is to implement the huddled
		
01:15:13 --> 01:15:18
			in other words, the five sometimes
six canonical, non
		
01:15:21 --> 01:15:25
			non negotiable punishments, which
are called Anneke. So that's
		
01:15:25 --> 01:15:30
			punishment, Zina for adultery for
path which is slanderous
		
01:15:30 --> 01:15:31
			accusations of
		
01:15:33 --> 01:15:38
			adultery, consumption of wine and
by extension, other narcotics
		
01:15:39 --> 01:15:42
			theft, Sarika and Hiraga, which is
		
01:15:43 --> 01:15:48
			sort of aggregated highway
robbery, that it is for the
		
01:15:48 --> 01:15:53
			assault on to monitor, to police
and to punish.
		
01:15:54 --> 01:15:57
			Now, in episodes fetters, we find
		
01:15:58 --> 01:16:02
			that by this time, the Hanafi
tradition had acknowledged that
		
01:16:02 --> 01:16:07
			the punishment for adultery was
just the kind of rhetorical device
		
01:16:07 --> 01:16:12
			that was never put into practice,
because you need for upright, male
		
01:16:12 --> 01:16:16
			eyewitnesses to everything. And in
the real world, that doesn't
		
01:16:16 --> 01:16:20
			happen a whole lot. And therefore,
you find that the stoning
		
01:16:20 --> 01:16:23
			punishment basically is not
actualized in the Ottoman realms
		
01:16:23 --> 01:16:28
			or generally in pre modern Islamic
history. Not for modern liberal
		
01:16:28 --> 01:16:32
			liberalizing reasons, but because
technically, it's just very, it's
		
01:16:32 --> 01:16:34
			a very old kind of thing. The
rules, the evidence are not like
		
01:16:34 --> 01:16:40
			those required anything else in
Sharia. Nowadays, of course, some
		
01:16:40 --> 01:16:43
			town in northern Nigeria implement
Sharia and the next day, they
		
01:16:43 --> 01:16:47
			found some poor woman stoned to
death, but not in pre modern
		
01:16:48 --> 01:16:53
			Islamic times, this was regarded
as a kind of statement about the
		
01:16:53 --> 01:16:57
			enormity of violating marriage
ties. It's a very western
		
01:16:57 --> 01:17:01
			perspective, it's a very odd, odd
kind of law. It's there and it's
		
01:17:01 --> 01:17:04
			fierce, but it's not. It's
obviously not really designed to
		
01:17:04 --> 01:17:09
			be done. And it seems anomalous,
but the Ottomans recognize this.
		
01:17:09 --> 01:17:12
			And also, interestingly, for
sadaqa theft,
		
01:17:14 --> 01:17:17
			the cutting of the hand, again,
not for sentimental reasons, the
		
01:17:17 --> 01:17:20
			Ottomans could be brutal when they
wanted
		
01:17:21 --> 01:17:25
			that this was generally not
applied because of the very
		
01:17:25 --> 01:17:31
			difficult evidentiary rules that
Hanafi folk requires. It has to be
		
01:17:31 --> 01:17:35
			deliberately taken out of somebody
else's, he is their own
		
01:17:35 --> 01:17:38
			possession, which is defined in a
very strange way. And a very
		
01:17:38 --> 01:17:41
			absolute way. According to certain
conditions, you have to have a
		
01:17:41 --> 01:17:45
			confession, or you have to have
witnesses. In practice, it's been
		
01:17:45 --> 01:17:47
			very difficult to implement that.
		
01:17:49 --> 01:17:50
			I remember when I was living in
Saudi Arabia,
		
01:17:51 --> 01:17:55
			everybody was grumbling about the
Saudi laws about theft, because
		
01:17:55 --> 01:18:00
			the code is interpretation was
that if you left something in your
		
01:18:00 --> 01:18:04
			car, that somebody broke into your
car and stole it, that wasn't
		
01:18:04 --> 01:18:07
			theft, because it was visible,
therefore it was in a public
		
01:18:07 --> 01:18:12
			space, and wasn't you're taken
from your own property. Everybody
		
01:18:12 --> 01:18:17
			isn't. This is completely crazy.
But it's known amongst those who
		
01:18:17 --> 01:18:21
			apply traditional Tech's have felt
that this is a difficult,
		
01:18:21 --> 01:18:25
			anomalous thing to put into
practice. So what Apple swords
		
01:18:25 --> 01:18:27
			does, is to
		
01:18:29 --> 01:18:36
			redefine what we would call theft
as a different shadier category of
		
01:18:36 --> 01:18:39
			use of patient or unlawful
appropriation.
		
01:18:40 --> 01:18:43
			In other words, it's still theft,
as we would understand it, but it
		
01:18:43 --> 01:18:48
			doesn't carry the harsh
punishment. It carries a zero
		
01:18:48 --> 01:18:51
			penalty, which is discretionary
according to the interpretation of
		
01:18:51 --> 01:18:54
			the judge. So generally, in the
Ottoman Empire, if you stole
		
01:18:54 --> 01:18:57
			somebody's donkey, you will be
flogged or imprisoned.
		
01:18:59 --> 01:19:02
			So that's another interesting
aspect of
		
01:19:04 --> 01:19:10
			the rulers authority. These five
penalties are the only area in
		
01:19:10 --> 01:19:13
			which the ruler really has
executive authority, but two of
		
01:19:13 --> 01:19:17
			them in practice turned out not to
be implemented.
		
01:19:18 --> 01:19:22
			But there's two others, the ruler
has the responsibility for the
		
01:19:22 --> 01:19:26
			collection of the supervision and
the disbursement of the Zakat.
		
01:19:28 --> 01:19:33
			Again, because of the difficulties
of doing that, Muslim rulers have
		
01:19:33 --> 01:19:35
			generally not involved themselves
in that,
		
01:19:37 --> 01:19:40
			as a cat has been a private
matter, or something at best
		
01:19:40 --> 01:19:43
			locally administered, or
determined by families or by
		
01:19:43 --> 01:19:48
			tribes, but the Ottomans never had
a central authority it despite the
		
01:19:49 --> 01:19:52
			enormousness of their bureaucracy
which tried to look after and
		
01:19:52 --> 01:19:56
			regulate zakat, other taxes, land
taxes and things. Sometimes they
		
01:19:56 --> 01:19:59
			did, but not the Zakat.
		
01:20:00 --> 01:20:04
			The fourth was another tax or a
levy,
		
01:20:05 --> 01:20:09
			on a booty acquired through
conquest, which is important in
		
01:20:09 --> 01:20:14
			the Ottoman context, which is
called the hubs. In other words,
		
01:20:14 --> 01:20:19
			of everything which is taken on
the field of battle, a fifth has
		
01:20:19 --> 01:20:22
			to go to the government to the
assault on. So that's another as a
		
01:20:22 --> 01:20:27
			function of the rulers. But so
what we get what Apple sold in
		
01:20:27 --> 01:20:29
			Solomon as they talk together.
		
01:20:31 --> 01:20:34
			So a man is Shadow of God on
earth, most powerful man in the
		
01:20:34 --> 01:20:39
			world, his daughters, the richest
woman in the world. Extraordinary.
		
01:20:40 --> 01:20:43
			And they're trying to figure out
what is the religious basis for
		
01:20:44 --> 01:20:48
			what I'm doing, found themselves
up against the Hanafi tradition,
		
01:20:48 --> 01:20:51
			which is actually the ruler is
kind of a figurehead and his name
		
01:20:51 --> 01:20:54
			is in the hotbar. And he can tell
you where to do the aid prayer,
		
01:20:54 --> 01:20:57
			and maybe he'll help you with your
circuit, but in practice in
		
01:20:57 --> 01:21:00
			evidence that is a very odd model.
		
01:21:01 --> 01:21:07
			Islamic law seems to envisage a
radically decentralized vision of
		
01:21:07 --> 01:21:08
			society.
		
01:21:10 --> 01:21:14
			There has to be a ruler, this is
not anarchism, and the ruler
		
01:21:14 --> 01:21:17
			carries the banner of the Prophet
and leads the army into battle.
		
01:21:18 --> 01:21:23
			But even the jihad is considered
in the Hanafi folk, not to be the
		
01:21:23 --> 01:21:27
			rulers prerogative, but a
collective prerogative of the
		
01:21:27 --> 01:21:32
			believers to be decided upon
amongst themselves. That's very
		
01:21:32 --> 01:21:36
			strange in the context of a modern
or a pre modern polity. The ruler
		
01:21:36 --> 01:21:39
			can declare war, but it's kind of
only because the masses have
		
01:21:40 --> 01:21:45
			endorsed or will endorse what he's
doing. And usually that happens to
		
01:21:45 --> 01:21:49
			the the Mufti. The Mufti tells the
assault on that is legitimate to
		
01:21:49 --> 01:21:54
			declare war on the Russians or
whatever. And that's taken to the
		
01:21:54 --> 01:21:58
			Shetty as view which is taken to
be what the masses want, but it's
		
01:21:58 --> 01:22:02
			not a unilateral decision from the
top at all.
		
01:22:03 --> 01:22:09
			So a very odd image of Imperial
politics totally unlike say the
		
01:22:09 --> 01:22:12
			Habsburg totally unlike the
ancient Romans, unlike the
		
01:22:12 --> 01:22:15
			Byzantines, unlike the modern
nation state, which likes to
		
01:22:15 --> 01:22:19
			control everything. irony of our
modern lives is that it's all
		
01:22:19 --> 01:22:22
			about freedom and rights. But in
reality, so much of our life is
		
01:22:22 --> 01:22:29
			regulated by government. We have a
national curriculum. Ottomans ever
		
01:22:29 --> 01:22:32
			had anything like that, a Ministry
of Health Ottomans ever had
		
01:22:32 --> 01:22:36
			anything like that. So the Ottoman
realms tend to present the
		
01:22:36 --> 01:22:39
			spectacle of a radically
decentered, sometimes even
		
01:22:39 --> 01:22:41
			centrifugal space,
		
01:22:42 --> 01:22:46
			symbolically, emblematically,
religiously united by the person
		
01:22:46 --> 01:22:50
			at the soul time, but in reality,
people's lives were very local.
		
01:22:51 --> 01:22:54
			In most cases, the kadhi will be
in a small town will be a local
		
01:22:54 --> 01:22:55
			appointment,
		
01:22:56 --> 01:23:00
			the Imam of the mosque, the
headman of the village, the head
		
01:23:00 --> 01:23:03
			of the tribe, the head of the
religious community, because it
		
01:23:03 --> 01:23:05
			wasn't just Muslims, of course,
they will also formally
		
01:23:05 --> 01:23:10
			constituted Armenian, Orthodox and
Jewish communities millets in the
		
01:23:10 --> 01:23:14
			Ottoman Empire with a very high
degree of autonomy, that will be
		
01:23:14 --> 01:23:18
			impossible in the context of a
modern liberal democracy. They
		
01:23:18 --> 01:23:21
			hyperventilated that shady
tribunals even though they don't
		
01:23:21 --> 01:23:24
			really clash with British law,
which is still
		
01:23:26 --> 01:23:30
			still sovereign, we get very
worried about that, in the Ottoman
		
01:23:30 --> 01:23:33
			Empire assault on doesn't get
involved in lawmaking, and doesn't
		
01:23:33 --> 01:23:36
			get involved in the making of the
Sharia either.
		
01:23:37 --> 01:23:42
			This is something that it's worth
bearing this in mind which modern
		
01:23:42 --> 01:23:44
			Muslims have generally forgotten.
		
01:23:45 --> 01:23:51
			So, in Pakistan, for instance, law
comes from the government.
		
01:23:52 --> 01:23:56
			There's a council for Islamic
ideology that is supposed to make
		
01:23:56 --> 01:24:00
			sure that it's all religiously
correct. But in reality, the laws
		
01:24:00 --> 01:24:06
			are decided upon by members of the
Parliament, who are appointed by
		
01:24:07 --> 01:24:11
			universal suffrage. So in reality,
that means that the ideology of
		
01:24:11 --> 01:24:13
			the state which is supposed to be
a religious ideology, and their
		
01:24:13 --> 01:24:16
			footwear choices, and what they do
with minorities, and blasphemy and
		
01:24:16 --> 01:24:20
			so forth, is really not decided by
the decentralized Sharia, but it's
		
01:24:20 --> 01:24:21
			decided by the electorate.
		
01:24:22 --> 01:24:26
			That's not necessarily a model,
that the Islamic Republic of
		
01:24:26 --> 01:24:30
			Pakistan says that that cannot
work well. It cannot work well,
		
01:24:30 --> 01:24:34
			and it does not work. Well. Many
of the current instabilities in
		
01:24:34 --> 01:24:36
			the Islamic world come from the
fact that Muslims have
		
01:24:36 --> 01:24:43
			unconsciously and in a reactively,
westernized way tried to adopt the
		
01:24:43 --> 01:24:47
			Western image of the centralized
nation state and to turn it into
		
01:24:47 --> 01:24:51
			the Islamic State with an Islamic
ideology. That's not the Ottoman
		
01:24:51 --> 01:24:55
			model is not the Islamic model at
all, which is radically dissented
		
01:24:56 --> 01:24:59
			system that gives a lot of
authority to
		
01:25:00 --> 01:25:05
			Local communities, neighborhoods,
religious groups, guilds tariqas.
		
01:25:05 --> 01:25:11
			It's a kind of tapestry of
difference. And Catherine Burke,
		
01:25:11 --> 01:25:13
			in her book, the Empire of
difference, talks about the
		
01:25:13 --> 01:25:16
			Ottoman Empire and the paradox of
this apparently unified state,
		
01:25:17 --> 01:25:21
			with the Sultan as the shadow of
God on earth. But in reality, most
		
01:25:21 --> 01:25:24
			people never engage with the
government ever. Even if they're
		
01:25:24 --> 01:25:27
			paying taxes, they're paying it to
the local bishop or someone who
		
01:25:27 --> 01:25:31
			collected on behalf of the Pasha,
then it goes up to the Imperial
		
01:25:31 --> 01:25:37
			bureaucracy. And we need to
remember this in our time of
		
01:25:37 --> 01:25:43
			Islamic States. That's not the
Islamic model. In any case, back
		
01:25:43 --> 01:25:47
			to episode, he's telling us all
time, actually, he's only allowed
		
01:25:47 --> 01:25:48
			to do four things.
		
01:25:51 --> 01:25:55
			Otherwise, the culture just
expects him to get on with his
		
01:25:55 --> 01:25:59
			probably quite hedonistic
lifestyle in the palace, and not
		
01:25:59 --> 01:26:00
			bother people.
		
01:26:01 --> 01:26:06
			With daily lives, society is self
regulating. It looks like some
		
01:26:06 --> 01:26:09
			versions of anarcho syndicalism.
In many ways, if you read
		
01:26:09 --> 01:26:15
			Kropotkin, you'll find an image of
the state which is a little bit
		
01:26:15 --> 01:26:19
			similar. It's not completely
anarchist is still a ruler, there
		
01:26:19 --> 01:26:22
			has to be the possibility of
collective self defense, some form
		
01:26:22 --> 01:26:28
			of minimal regulation, but it is
more anarchistic than our
		
01:26:28 --> 01:26:32
			stereotype of Oriental despotism.
		
01:26:33 --> 01:26:38
			So one of the key things that the
Salton does do in the Ottoman
		
01:26:38 --> 01:26:43
			context that is not really valid
in the Hanafi vision is to issue
		
01:26:44 --> 01:26:48
			practical laws, or to confirm laws
that are there in provinces before
		
01:26:48 --> 01:26:49
			they've been added to the Empire.
		
01:26:51 --> 01:26:53
			So one of the oddities of the
Ottoman Empire is that you have
		
01:26:53 --> 01:26:56
			two legal systems. This the Shetty
out.
		
01:26:58 --> 01:27:00
			But there's also something called
con on
		
01:27:01 --> 01:27:04
			the shady ad is there in the
collections of factors and in
		
01:27:04 --> 01:27:09
			Gadoury, and Murray nanny and the
buzz Isiah, but there's this
		
01:27:09 --> 01:27:15
			Colonus books of laws, which exist
in order to regulate certain
		
01:27:15 --> 01:27:19
			practical details that you won't
find, and the rather idealizing
		
01:27:19 --> 01:27:20
			Hanafy tradition.
		
01:27:22 --> 01:27:24
			What do you really do in cases of
		
01:27:26 --> 01:27:32
			theft, for instance, you have to
have laws about property. What do
		
01:27:32 --> 01:27:37
			you do in questions of land
tenure, disputes over irrigation
		
01:27:37 --> 01:27:42
			disputes over taxing beehives,
there's a whole lot of stuff
		
01:27:43 --> 01:27:45
			necessarily present in the Empire,
		
01:27:46 --> 01:27:49
			which is not that in the Hanafi
tradition, and which has to be
		
01:27:49 --> 01:27:52
			extrapolated either through a kind
of utilitarian he had, but
		
01:27:52 --> 01:27:56
			generally is regulated by the
practice of the ruler in these are
		
01:27:56 --> 01:28:01
			norms. And the Ottomans are
inheriting different car loans.
		
01:28:01 --> 01:28:04
			Again, it's very regionally
specific. So the rules that they
		
01:28:04 --> 01:28:08
			have for taxing watermills in
Bosnia, are a bit different. For
		
01:28:08 --> 01:28:13
			those they have, say, in southern
Anatolia, or in Egypt. Over the
		
01:28:13 --> 01:28:17
			years, as they issue more of these
rescript, they tend to become a
		
01:28:17 --> 01:28:20
			little bit homogenized. But
generally, the Empire is a
		
01:28:20 --> 01:28:24
			patchwork of different kinds of
localized laws, which mirrors in
		
01:28:24 --> 01:28:29
			many ways the decentralized nature
of Sharia administration.
		
01:28:30 --> 01:28:33
			But this looks like a problem to a
lot of the Allamah. God's law
		
01:28:34 --> 01:28:38
			alone is sovereign. What all these
cartoons, that's not even a proper
		
01:28:38 --> 01:28:43
			Arabic word. Do we not need to
reduce and do away with these
		
01:28:43 --> 01:28:49
			extra judicial things? Even though
in practice much of the Empire is
		
01:28:49 --> 01:28:52
			regulated by them, Army
regulations and who taxes the
		
01:28:52 --> 01:28:57
			gills and who controls river
crossings? And who maintains
		
01:28:57 --> 01:29:02
			security at ports you need? You
need rules for those things.
		
01:29:03 --> 01:29:03
			So
		
01:29:05 --> 01:29:08
			episode is troubled by this.
		
01:29:09 --> 01:29:12
			And one of the things in fact, the
thing he's most remembered for,
		
01:29:13 --> 01:29:19
			amongst later Ottoman scholars is
that he irons out the disparities
		
01:29:19 --> 01:29:21
			between Kondal and Sharia.
		
01:29:22 --> 01:29:25
			And this is one reason why assault
on stolen land a magnificent has
		
01:29:25 --> 01:29:29
			his his epithet when the bay is
deeded to the Justin Celie Mr.
		
01:29:29 --> 01:29:36
			Grim, Solomon is the law giver.
cannone bit like just in you, the
		
01:29:36 --> 01:29:40
			law giver. Well, how does that
happen? If he's only got these
		
01:29:40 --> 01:29:44
			four little functions, he's not
allowed to issue laws, not allowed
		
01:29:44 --> 01:29:48
			to do anything where they let them
go back to his dancing girls or
		
01:29:48 --> 01:29:50
			whatever he spends his time on,
but let him not get involved in
		
01:29:50 --> 01:29:53
			important things in the state like
law.
		
01:29:55 --> 01:29:59
			So that obviously talking about
this, and in his fatwas, you find
		
01:30:00 --> 01:30:00
			for
		
01:30:01 --> 01:30:06
			that episode very often, while he
recognizes the ongoing authority
		
01:30:06 --> 01:30:12
			of our lawn irons out certain
things that are not Sharia
		
01:30:12 --> 01:30:12
			compliant,
		
01:30:13 --> 01:30:19
			and in other cases, redefines
things in ways that makes sense to
		
01:30:19 --> 01:30:23
			the Sharia. So we've already seen
how he deals with the fact that
		
01:30:23 --> 01:30:26
			the Hanafi law of theft is not
being applied by saying, well, we
		
01:30:26 --> 01:30:31
			didn't call it Celica theft, but
we call it illegal expropriation.
		
01:30:31 --> 01:30:35
			And the judge can impose a non
huddled penalty on that, and he
		
01:30:35 --> 01:30:40
			does this pretty systematically.
The condoms continue. But the
		
01:30:40 --> 01:30:44
			scandal of having a kind of
dualistic legal system is
		
01:30:44 --> 01:30:46
			significantly
		
01:30:47 --> 01:30:49
			significantly diminished.
		
01:30:53 --> 01:30:58
			One of the problems that they have
in an empire, which is essentially
		
01:30:58 --> 01:31:02
			agrarian, the basis for the wealth
of the Empire, and the supply of
		
01:31:02 --> 01:31:08
			personnel for the armed forces
from the countryside, is that the
		
01:31:08 --> 01:31:13
			Ottoman system, it's not feudal,
in the sense of having an insert
		
01:31:13 --> 01:31:19
			peasantry that just can't leave
the land. But it is that is not
		
01:31:19 --> 01:31:21
			clear who actually owns most of
the land.
		
01:31:22 --> 01:31:26
			At the lowest level, there is the
kind of villager and the
		
01:31:26 --> 01:31:30
			schriftlich, which is the basic
farm and schriftlich. It means
		
01:31:30 --> 01:31:34
			like a yoke between two oxen. In
other words, the area of land
		
01:31:34 --> 01:31:38
			owned by a peasant is originally
defined as the area which you can
		
01:31:38 --> 01:31:44
			plow in a single day makes up the
basic unit of demarcation in the
		
01:31:44 --> 01:31:49
			empire and villages will be under
the authority of a temporary opt
		
01:31:49 --> 01:31:53
			or a local landowner may be
somebody some pasture or Bay,
		
01:31:53 --> 01:31:58
			who's been awarded this, or maybe
it owns is owned by a walk, and
		
01:31:58 --> 01:32:02
			the income goes to support one of
the big satanic foundations.
		
01:32:04 --> 01:32:08
			But it's not quite clear. who is
owning this? Is it the peasant who
		
01:32:08 --> 01:32:14
			owns it? Or is it the landowner
who actually has titled to it? So
		
01:32:14 --> 01:32:15
			can he sell it?
		
01:32:17 --> 01:32:22
			He can't really bequeath it, what
does the assault on it, and Hanafi
		
01:32:22 --> 01:32:25
			law Islamic law doesn't really
allow that you have to have a
		
01:32:25 --> 01:32:31
			clear single owner for immovable
property. So I will say the old
		
01:32:31 --> 01:32:34
			redefines this in a very
fundamental way,
		
01:32:35 --> 01:32:40
			by saying, Actually, all of these
lands are owned by the state that
		
01:32:40 --> 01:32:45
			are owned by the Sultan. And the
peasant is a sharecropper, who is
		
01:32:46 --> 01:32:52
			giving a proportion of his harvest
to the landowner in exchange for
		
01:32:52 --> 01:32:58
			the right to tilled the land. And
the landowner doesn't own it, but
		
01:32:58 --> 01:33:01
			his as it were renting it in
exchange for the payment of taxes
		
01:33:01 --> 01:33:06
			to central government. So this
irons out the problem of this old
		
01:33:06 --> 01:33:10
			Kanban system that has most of the
land in the empire, not all but
		
01:33:10 --> 01:33:14
			most of it cultivated land at any
rate, not clearly owned by
		
01:33:14 --> 01:33:18
			anybody. And this is one of the
major changes that he makes it it
		
01:33:18 --> 01:33:21
			actually clarifies a lot of things
because you want to sell the land
		
01:33:21 --> 01:33:25
			or divide it, it's clear who it
belongs to. And you don't need to
		
01:33:25 --> 01:33:29
			engage in protracted negotiations
with a lot of people who think
		
01:33:29 --> 01:33:36
			that they have a obscurely defined
share in it. So this is important.
		
01:33:36 --> 01:33:39
			And you also finds that the Empire
has a lot of localized taxes,
		
01:33:39 --> 01:33:43
			whose role in Sharia is seen as
being problematic. So there's
		
01:33:43 --> 01:33:48
			something in Ottoman law called
smoke tax, which is what nomads
		
01:33:48 --> 01:33:52
			come down from the mountains and
in camp in an area of settled
		
01:33:52 --> 01:33:58
			land. And so the state taxes then
for the use of that land, it's not
		
01:33:58 --> 01:34:03
			really there in the hands of Ufuk.
There's a tax on gypsy dancers,
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:07
			for instance, there's taxes on a
lot of things, boatman river
		
01:34:07 --> 01:34:08
			crossings.
		
01:34:09 --> 01:34:13
			And these are enshrined in local
law in this condo lameness and
		
01:34:13 --> 01:34:19
			episode tries very hard to
redefine these as Sharia
		
01:34:20 --> 01:34:25
			institutions. And in order to do
this, he has to find an authority
		
01:34:25 --> 01:34:29
			for doing this. And one of the
major transformations that happens
		
01:34:29 --> 01:34:32
			in the Ottoman Empire at this time
is that the authority the
		
01:34:32 --> 01:34:35
			sovereignty of the Sultan is
increased.
		
01:34:37 --> 01:34:41
			The old Hanafi rule which strips
the small town of just about every
		
01:34:41 --> 01:34:47
			governmental authority that we
would recognize, is modified by
		
01:34:47 --> 01:34:51
			invoking more formally, a certain
interpretation of classical
		
01:34:51 --> 01:34:52
			theories of the key Lyford.
		
01:34:54 --> 01:34:58
			If you go to the right Soleimani,
a mosque in Istanbul, the
		
01:34:58 --> 01:34:59
			masterwork of it
		
01:35:00 --> 01:35:03
			Ultimate civilization perhaps
that's where the shirtless lunch
		
01:35:03 --> 01:35:08
			office used to be in madrasahs and
hospitals, it's a huge complex
		
01:35:09 --> 01:35:15
			episode is the one who writes the
inscription over the main entrance
		
01:35:15 --> 01:35:19
			to the ceremonial Mosque, which is
Exordium have praises for the
		
01:35:19 --> 01:35:19
			Sultan,
		
01:35:21 --> 01:35:24
			but defines him as the Khalifa.
		
01:35:25 --> 01:35:28
			Now, Muslim rulers and often use
that in a kind of informal way,
		
01:35:28 --> 01:35:31
			even from the beginnings of the
Ottoman period, some of the
		
01:35:31 --> 01:35:36
			Seljuks are saying we're Khalifa
it's not a terribly precise term.
		
01:35:36 --> 01:35:40
			But in applesauce hands, it
becomes not just a kind of nice
		
01:35:40 --> 01:35:45
			thing to say about the full time
but a formal Shediac category that
		
01:35:45 --> 01:35:50
			gives the ruler implicitly more
rights than those that are
		
01:35:50 --> 01:35:56
			conventionally allocated to him in
the ideal Hanafy system. So that
		
01:35:56 --> 01:35:56
			Khalifa.
		
01:35:59 --> 01:36:03
			And again, this is part of the
inscription. In the Sulaymaniyah
		
01:36:03 --> 01:36:08
			is the interpreter and executor of
the law of heaven.
		
01:36:09 --> 01:36:13
			Can't remember the original, but
that's what it means. Well, even
		
01:36:13 --> 01:36:16
			that, in careful terms, is pushing
it a little bit, because the
		
01:36:16 --> 01:36:22
			Khalifa doesn't have a legislative
role. But I'm also old is working
		
01:36:22 --> 01:36:29
			hard to try and ensure that all of
these laws that are edicts issued
		
01:36:29 --> 01:36:31
			on the authority of government,
		
01:36:32 --> 01:36:37
			are religiously valid. And he does
this to this rather intensified
		
01:36:37 --> 01:36:39
			view of who the Khalifa is.
		
01:36:40 --> 01:36:44
			So the category that majority and
some early theorists of the
		
01:36:44 --> 01:36:50
			Khilafah recognize, which is that
of CSR, through executive
		
01:36:50 --> 01:36:56
			expediency and authority, the
ruler, particularly the qlf, can
		
01:36:56 --> 01:37:00
			do certain things can execute
certain rebels can punish certain
		
01:37:00 --> 01:37:05
			people can introduce certain
structures can build madrasahs for
		
01:37:05 --> 01:37:06
			a particular purpose.
		
01:37:07 --> 01:37:10
			The these become more
		
01:37:12 --> 01:37:16
			institutionalized in the Ottoman
context as a natural concomitant
		
01:37:16 --> 01:37:18
			of the rulers charisma.
		
01:37:19 --> 01:37:22
			So it's a very significant
inscription and you find similar
		
01:37:22 --> 01:37:25
			things that he writes at the
beginning of some of his books
		
01:37:25 --> 01:37:29
			where he's dedicating his book to
Soloman, and he gives us rather
		
01:37:29 --> 01:37:34
			from a traditional Hanafy
perspective, inflated view of the
		
01:37:34 --> 01:37:38
			authority of the ruler. So this
obviously is complex and runs
		
01:37:38 --> 01:37:43
			through much of Ottoman law. But
to give you an example, of
		
01:37:43 --> 01:37:44
			contemporary import.
		
01:37:45 --> 01:37:48
			Last week, we were talking about
when we all do marriages in the
		
01:37:48 --> 01:37:53
			new Cambridge mosque and for whom,
who do we say yes to? Who will we
		
01:37:53 --> 01:37:54
			say no to?
		
01:37:55 --> 01:37:58
			We had two marriages during
Ramadan, which I didn't know
		
01:37:58 --> 01:38:01
			people got married during Ramadan,
but we did it that seems to be
		
01:38:01 --> 01:38:07
			halal. But do we always require
parental consent? Do we always
		
01:38:07 --> 01:38:10
			require that they should bring
along the certificate from the
		
01:38:10 --> 01:38:12
			registry office?
		
01:38:13 --> 01:38:17
			And the Turkish imam who we heard
who is a learned persons in
		
01:38:17 --> 01:38:22
			Turkey, to do the Nikkor you have
to have the official certificate
		
01:38:22 --> 01:38:26
			of marriage first, because that
protects the couple in cases of
		
01:38:26 --> 01:38:27
			dispute.
		
01:38:28 --> 01:38:32
			Then English law there's no
requirement for a legally
		
01:38:32 --> 01:38:36
			registered marriage as a
precondition for a religious
		
01:38:36 --> 01:38:37
			ceremony.
		
01:38:38 --> 01:38:42
			Some backbenchers are trying to
change that, which we'll see how
		
01:38:42 --> 01:38:47
			far that get. But in traditional
Islamic law, the state doesn't get
		
01:38:47 --> 01:38:50
			involved with things like that.
Why is it anything to do with the
		
01:38:50 --> 01:38:54
			Salton or the state bureaucracy to
private contract between two
		
01:38:55 --> 01:38:56
			individuals.
		
01:38:58 --> 01:39:03
			But in the context of Abu Saud,
that was as a lofty, he's seen so
		
01:39:03 --> 01:39:07
			many cases where nobody can
produce any kind of documentation,
		
01:39:07 --> 01:39:11
			maybe a letter, maybe a statement
of goods of a dowry or something.
		
01:39:12 --> 01:39:16
			It's a notorious area for
disputation
		
01:39:17 --> 01:39:22
			that he actually says that you
need to have a document from the
		
01:39:22 --> 01:39:26
			guardi who is ultimately a state
appointee in the system.
		
01:39:28 --> 01:39:32
			Otherwise, you're in a state of
legal infraction.
		
01:39:33 --> 01:39:35
			So if you've already got your
nicotine on it,
		
01:39:36 --> 01:39:40
			you need to have that endorsed by
the Guardian, as Accardi has to
		
01:39:40 --> 01:39:45
			endorse it, if it's in the
appropriate Sharia form. You can't
		
01:39:45 --> 01:39:51
			say no, you can't marry her. But
it's legally notarized. And that's
		
01:39:51 --> 01:39:55
			something relatively new as far as
we can tell in Islamic history. So
		
01:39:55 --> 01:39:59
			the current Turkish rule actually
goes back to the time of Solomon
		
01:40:00 --> 01:40:06
			At magnificent and the bringing
together of salt tonic, and Sharia
		
01:40:06 --> 01:40:07
			and personal law.
		
01:40:08 --> 01:40:13
			So that's one example of the ways
in which he does this and a
		
01:40:15 --> 01:40:17
			number of other examples could be
cited.
		
01:40:19 --> 01:40:24
			I should mentioned briefly before
I close some of his major
		
01:40:24 --> 01:40:27
			writings. It's famous for his
fatwas, but
		
01:40:28 --> 01:40:31
			he was quite a distinguished poet
		
01:40:33 --> 01:40:34
			particularly in Arabic,
		
01:40:36 --> 01:40:39
			but his major literary work was
his
		
01:40:41 --> 01:40:45
			your shared an Oculus Salim, which
is his tafsir
		
01:40:47 --> 01:40:51
			and he found it very frustrating
trying to complete this because he
		
01:40:51 --> 01:40:56
			was endlessly interrupted with the
state business he found it really
		
01:40:56 --> 01:40:59
			hard to get delta his research as
we would say nowadays.
		
01:41:03 --> 01:41:07
			All these committees, the assault
on clapping his hands and says the
		
01:41:07 --> 01:41:12
			Mufti will accomplish, accompany
me to Albania or something. And he
		
01:41:12 --> 01:41:16
			has to comply, protecting 30 years
to write this Tafseer.
		
01:41:18 --> 01:41:21
			But, and the Salton is really
anxious to see it.
		
01:41:23 --> 01:41:26
			Selena is afraid that one of them
is going to die before it's
		
01:41:26 --> 01:41:26
			completed.
		
01:41:28 --> 01:41:32
			So when it's got to Surah 36, or
something
		
01:41:34 --> 01:41:38
			it was sold makes a copy of what
he's got and sends it with his son
		
01:41:38 --> 01:41:42
			in law to the palace. Just to kind
of reassure this autonomous photon
		
01:41:42 --> 01:41:44
			is delighted and gives them a pay
rise,
		
01:41:45 --> 01:41:46
			finishes it
		
01:41:47 --> 01:41:47
			the
		
01:41:49 --> 01:41:57
			next year, which is the year of
Solomon's death, and it circulates
		
01:41:57 --> 01:42:00
			and looks at ALMA. And although
the prestige of its author, no
		
01:42:00 --> 01:42:04
			doubt gripped many people's
attention. It came to be regarded
		
01:42:04 --> 01:42:09
			as one of the three great tough
CEOs used amongst learning people
		
01:42:09 --> 01:42:13
			in the Ottoman Empire, along with
some luxury, and along with a
		
01:42:13 --> 01:42:17
			doorway. These are the two texts
are used in the madrasa primarily
		
01:42:17 --> 01:42:19
			before that, partly because of
their strong kind of Hanafi
		
01:42:19 --> 01:42:25
			rationalizing tendencies. But
episodes tafsir is right up there.
		
01:42:26 --> 01:42:30
			If you go to book shops in the
Arab world now and you look for
		
01:42:30 --> 01:42:35
			books by Ottoman scholars, and
partly they just don't know. And
		
01:42:35 --> 01:42:38
			partly it's because the texts are
in Turkish, but generally the two
		
01:42:38 --> 01:42:41
			books you will find or maybe the
three books you will find will be
		
01:42:41 --> 01:42:42
			* Khalifa is book
		
01:42:44 --> 01:42:48
			on the different disciplines, you
will find TASH kaprizov This book,
		
01:42:48 --> 01:42:52
			which I referred to miftah Harada.
And you will find the tafsir of
		
01:42:52 --> 01:42:53
			Apple sold
		
01:42:55 --> 01:42:59
			very, very reputed. So he
completes this. He writes a few
		
01:42:59 --> 01:43:05
			short, thick books. He writes at
they said quite a bit of poetry,
		
01:43:06 --> 01:43:07
			but is essentially
		
01:43:09 --> 01:43:14
			somebody who works on fatwas and
works in a practical way in the
		
01:43:14 --> 01:43:19
			judiciary and does so it is still
offered Macedonia doing cadastral
		
01:43:19 --> 01:43:24
			surveys quite late in his life,
but in his I guess, mid 80s, he
		
01:43:24 --> 01:43:27
			dies 1574
		
01:43:28 --> 01:43:32
			And he's buried at a Europe, which
is the quarter of Istanbul, where
		
01:43:32 --> 01:43:35
			the Ashraf and the Allamah are
traditionally interred.
		
01:43:37 --> 01:43:40
			And the places well known people
can show you where the grave is,
		
01:43:41 --> 01:43:45
			he actually endowed a madrasa
there which no longer exists. All
		
01:43:45 --> 01:43:48
			that remains, this is quite humble
grave. So
		
01:43:50 --> 01:43:54
			that's the story that I wish to
present today and it raises
		
01:43:54 --> 01:43:58
			questions not just of how you
remain pious and Sharia oriented
		
01:43:58 --> 01:44:02
			in, in many ways, quite
pragmatical Imperial bureaucracy,
		
01:44:03 --> 01:44:10
			but also reminds us of the the
surprising decentralization which
		
01:44:10 --> 01:44:14
			the Sharia envisages, if you've
read while Halex new book, The
		
01:44:14 --> 01:44:18
			Impossible state. He talks about
the eruptions of the modern Muslim
		
01:44:18 --> 01:44:24
			world being about the fact that
Muslims are now trying to use the
		
01:44:24 --> 01:44:26
			Western enlightenment structure of
the nation state
		
01:44:28 --> 01:44:32
			with its idea that the government
monopolizes violence and logging
		
01:44:34 --> 01:44:39
			in order to promote the Sharia,
which is structurally completely
		
01:44:39 --> 01:44:43
			allergic to this idea of
institutionalizing and govern,
		
01:44:43 --> 01:44:48
			govern mentalization and the
result is totalitarian catastrophe
		
01:44:48 --> 01:44:52
			and administrative failure
everywhere it's worthwhile book
		
01:44:52 --> 01:44:54
			worth looking at and
		
01:44:55 --> 01:45:00
			I Haluk doesn't look much at
Ottoman examples but you
		
01:45:00 --> 01:45:03
			might even see in Apple swords
reforms,
		
01:45:04 --> 01:45:09
			which are trying to make the law
of the Empire and its huge state
		
01:45:09 --> 01:45:16
			consistent, the beginnings of the
modern tendency to make fatwa and
		
01:45:17 --> 01:45:22
			caught up and religious authority,
something that the state
		
01:45:22 --> 01:45:27
			regulates, which is a process
that's becoming very intense now
		
01:45:27 --> 01:45:30
			with the kind of strict scrutiny
of madrasa curriculums and the
		
01:45:30 --> 01:45:35
			banning of independent teaching of
Majelis in the mosques, and the
		
01:45:35 --> 01:45:40
			control of the state, not just
that the allowing a Friday
		
01:45:40 --> 01:45:43
			prayers, but writing every single
hotspot, which is increasingly
		
01:45:43 --> 01:45:46
			common, they tried to do it in
Egypt two years ago, the US are
		
01:45:46 --> 01:45:51
			led out to howl of protest and CC
back down. But this is the final,
		
01:45:52 --> 01:45:56
			final nail in that coffin in many
ways that the Sharia in its
		
01:45:56 --> 01:46:00
			classical text is consensually
absolutely clear that the state
		
01:46:00 --> 01:46:07
			has no right to interfere in these
things and is perceived as, as, at
		
01:46:07 --> 01:46:10
			best small government.
		
01:46:11 --> 01:46:16
			Now, how you actually instantiate
Sharia, in the context of the
		
01:46:16 --> 01:46:20
			inescapable structure of the
modern nation state,
		
01:46:21 --> 01:46:25
			international treaties, and so
forth, the United Nations is an
		
01:46:25 --> 01:46:26
			interesting question.
		
01:46:27 --> 01:46:31
			It's not clear to me how somebody,
Abu Saud would have resolved that,
		
01:46:31 --> 01:46:37
			that this career does remind us of
the inherent difficulty of trying
		
01:46:37 --> 01:46:42
			to govern mentalize, Sharia and
charismatic authority in Islam,
		
01:46:42 --> 01:46:47
			which is skeptical about central
authority and tries to keep its
		
01:46:47 --> 01:46:49
			jurisdiction to a minimum.
		
01:46:51 --> 01:46:54
			So some other unknown one My
apologies, but I think he's an
		
01:46:54 --> 01:46:58
			interesting guy an interesting
story, and as I said, I've relied
		
01:46:58 --> 01:47:01
			very heavily on Colin embers book
so if you want to know more about
		
01:47:01 --> 01:47:05
			this, I would commend it warmly.
Saramonic
		
01:47:07 --> 01:47:11
			Cambridge Muslim College, training
the next generation of Muslim
		
01:47:11 --> 01:47:12
			thinkers